MUSLIM CULTURE IS BAD CULTURE! Douglas Murray, Maajid Nawaz, Sam Harris, Eric & Bret Weinstein

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  • @Pangburn
    @Pangburn  3 місяці тому +5

    Full discussion here: ua-cam.com/video/jzIcey49vBM/v-deo.html

    • @jlrockafella
      @jlrockafella 3 місяці тому

      No.shit. the top 3 religions worship the same god. YAHWEH aka Allah who Jesus told the jews, their father the devil. This why they rejected Christ. The church has lied and edited the words in the holy books to manipulate the people to believe yahweh the devil is the father of Jesus Christ but in reality Jesus came to clear his father's name. To renounce the devil (yahweh) and free all people unlike Moses who was doing the devil's bidding in only freeing his people the jews.

  • @JohnsonMathew-w3s
    @JohnsonMathew-w3s 3 місяці тому +24

    How many of you think that Islam should not be approved as a religion by any country?

    • @Druid75
      @Druid75 3 місяці тому +4

      Well i dont like islam, however we have freedom of speech and religion for a reason in our more developed nations for a reason.

    • @NM-235
      @NM-235 3 місяці тому +6

      There shouldn’t be any approval of any religions by government. That kind of connection between political and religious spheres is on of the many problems that makes Islam incompatible with western culture focusing on individual sovereignty. In other words let not act like islamists or communists for that matter and let government regulate the consciences of men.

    • @JohnsonMathew-w3s
      @JohnsonMathew-w3s 3 місяці тому

      @@NM-235 Do you mean Islam should be striped of the status of a religion?

    • @mmongiello722
      @mmongiello722 3 місяці тому +6

      Ban them all

    • @bootskanchelsis3337
      @bootskanchelsis3337 3 місяці тому

      @@mmongiello722 agreed. Religion is nothing but poison.

  • @BoomstickFTW
    @BoomstickFTW 3 місяці тому +3

    Agreeing on values = culture

  • @arthurspero
    @arthurspero 3 місяці тому +2

    Why has either UA-cam or Pangburn shown a title for the video that is totally misleading ? The title reads "Muslim Culture is Bad" and "Islam is Evil" and I don't hear anyone declaring that. It almost seems that a pro-Islam writer assigned that title to a much more nuanced discussion.

  • @rogerjohnson2562
    @rogerjohnson2562 3 місяці тому +1

    If we feel obligated to help the suffering Muslim family in Syria, the best solution is to encourage and support Muslim nations to get their act together to support their Muslim brothers. There IS a war of cultures, and enabling Muslim culture to destroy Western culture is asinine.

  • @mihaelaabramovich316
    @mihaelaabramovich316 3 місяці тому

    We love you Murray ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @INJEEL_1028
      @INJEEL_1028 3 місяці тому

      That is fools love, let me know if you need an explanation .

  • @solvingpolitics3172
    @solvingpolitics3172 3 місяці тому +13

    List their contributions to the world? List one of their countries that is a desirable place to live?

    • @Raska2010
      @Raska2010 3 місяці тому +3

      Whom you mean about muslim .Contribution of development was Golden age.

    • @HoiaPolloia
      @HoiaPolloia 3 місяці тому +8

      @@Raska2010 that's a fiction

    • @solvingpolitics3172
      @solvingpolitics3172 3 місяці тому +9

      @@Raska2010 500 years ago and it never happened. If it did, tell us why it ended? Who ended it?

    • @mariovillarreal8647
      @mariovillarreal8647 3 місяці тому +1

      Christianity robbed Islam during Crusades. Sciences come from Mideast. Industrial World runs on mideast oil.

    • @Raska2010
      @Raska2010 3 місяці тому +1

      ​​@@HoiaPolloia Why?

  • @EM-cg4iy
    @EM-cg4iy 3 місяці тому +1

    Eric needs to stop talking about “non-binary people” as if that’s a thing. It’s not a thing. You may as well talk about heffalumps or muggles.

  • @lotsofstuff9645
    @lotsofstuff9645 3 місяці тому +13

    All historical cultures are a bad idea to hold on to. Over time our knowledge, morals, and expectations change. The problem is when we attempt to permanently hold on to ideas no matter what new information we have. If religions accepted a change of ideas and standards then they would be less harmful.

    • @bootskanchelsis3337
      @bootskanchelsis3337 3 місяці тому +2

      well said.

    • @juliechurley2716
      @juliechurley2716 3 місяці тому

      Exactly. And there is one in particular that has not changed at all. This is why it doesn’t coexist with Western values

    • @lotsofstuff9645
      @lotsofstuff9645 3 місяці тому

      @@juliechurley2716 One of the key Western values is about coexistence with other cultures and not to impose your values on to others. That is unless we’re only including the values of our version of the tribalistic near identical religions of the west. Maybe it would be great if we all just chilled and tried to get along with people. If you don’t like aspects of the cultural practices of a particular group, you don’t mirror the aspects that you don’t like. You keep your own standards and show them why you think your way is better.

    • @juliechurley2716
      @juliechurley2716 3 місяці тому +3

      @@lotsofstuff9645 Tell that to people in parts of Britain & Europe. This is one time turning the other cheek, being tolerant & kind doesn’t seem to be working

    • @lotsofstuff9645
      @lotsofstuff9645 3 місяці тому +1

      @@juliechurley2716 I am a person of Britain. You are buying too much kool-aid my friend. It’s perfectly fine if you associate with people of Islam. Don’t turn the other cheek or any of that nonsense. Just treat people like people and you should be fine. Some people will be arseholes and you can leave them alone, others are fine. Sometimes nice even. Same goes for anyone from anywhere in the world.

  • @NM-235
    @NM-235 3 місяці тому +2

    Evolution doesn’t find the best solution in the timeframes we are talking about, the lifespans of nations and men, it settles on one of many possible acceptable solutions. The reason very few cultures have fundamentally changed peacefully and gradually is that culture has inertia even to the point of being mal-adaptive to the current or changing circumstances. The fact that a civilization has settled on a culture doesn’t mean it’s the best solution to peaceful coexistence within the group only that the culture is good enough to mitigate the problems facing the group enough to allow survival.

  • @lotsofstuff9645
    @lotsofstuff9645 3 місяці тому +2

    The idea that there are collective morals is nonsense. In religions they are effectively forced into claiming to have collective morals, however even in that situation each person will form there own opinions where they are not told what to think. In secular societies there are no collective morals. Each person will form their own. That is inevitable because definitionally morality is a personal decision of what they are willing to accept. You don’t get widespread agreement with a complex and vague set of ideas such as what tends to be grouped under the term morality. I wish people would stop trying to impose immoral systems on to people and would just abide by laws of whatever land you are in.

  • @watgaz518
    @watgaz518 3 місяці тому +1

    Where the Western World moved on from the times of Jesus, in all aspects of life, the Islamic World stayed put. The two today are totally out of alignment with one another’s thinking and understanding. We are flexible and they are rigid and unwilling to move the goal posts, hence the continuing friction. The religious mentality of Muslims will always remain in the bygone days, whilst we strive to go forward looking for answers for harmony between us, which is unfortunately, somewhat unlikely.

    • @INJEEL_1028
      @INJEEL_1028 3 місяці тому

      Hence the gender issues, go on evolving without any concerns, your iPhone came with a manual, so does man, and i& that manual is corrupted then get one that is not.

  • @eliotanderson6554
    @eliotanderson6554 3 місяці тому +6

    First increase demographics then tear country into many pieces muslims in indian subcontinent divided india in 3 peices bcs they were 20% of population
    Throwing out killing all minorities in their countires they share of population came down dwindling in numbers when they used to be 30% in many of the region which today constitute pakistan afghanistan and bangladesh

  • @imankhandaker6103
    @imankhandaker6103 3 місяці тому +1

    Is? Because 1.5 billion people have one culture?

  • @lakingpaul
    @lakingpaul 3 місяці тому +6

    Would be great if Bret yapped a little less

  • @BoomstickFTW
    @BoomstickFTW 3 місяці тому +4

    I strongly disagree with this first guy who says there can be no better or worse cultures. This is a ridiculous fallacy.

  • @justinvonzola3768
    @justinvonzola3768 2 місяці тому

    this title kinda sucks. Maajid Nawaz is a revelation for an educated, cultured Islam. He is the ONLY muslim debater that actually addresses and answers direct inquiry. he's a treasure among the caveman clerics of Islam.

  • @kazaabitboll2026
    @kazaabitboll2026 3 місяці тому +1

    Yes it is

  • @sahail5953
    @sahail5953 3 місяці тому

    West should learn from the GCC countries see the developments under Islamic regulation

  • @johnfoster7596
    @johnfoster7596 3 місяці тому

    Why is this a part of something recycled from 10 months ago?

  • @valentinogeorgievski
    @valentinogeorgievski 3 місяці тому

    So are you !

  • @robertfrancois6064
    @robertfrancois6064 3 місяці тому

    Just a bunch of boys about town

  • @michelangelope830
    @michelangelope830 3 місяці тому

    How will be the future of atheism and christianity after atheists and christians refused and continue to refuse to ask for proof that the Quran was memorized? Believe me or not I am incredibly talking about reality that is happening in front of your eyes, here and now. To end Islam and the war you have to ask for proof that the Quran was memorized. To not waste this loving poem I say atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is the religious idea of the creator of the creation to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. I will rephrase the atheist logical fallacy to facilitate the understanding. Atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is "sky daddy" to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. What is religion for if it doesn't make christians good people? What is atheism for if atheists lie to protect religion? Emergencia! It is urgent! Listen and understand because lives are lost while I am talking! The true God is Spinoza's God and if you don't believe me you can read Spinoza. Thank you.

  • @sahail5953
    @sahail5953 3 місяці тому

    Dear Sir you should mind your language aganist Islam while living in UK

    • @BoomstickFTW
      @BoomstickFTW 3 місяці тому +1

      How about Islam and islamists respect the countries that bring them in?

    • @TinnyDee
      @TinnyDee 3 місяці тому

      You don't get to tell people what to say fascist

  • @mmongiello722
    @mmongiello722 3 місяці тому +4

    Both wiensteins should be ashamed for their false equivocation

  • @benjamintrevino325
    @benjamintrevino325 3 місяці тому +3

    There are lots of Muslims down here. Great people. Dude is wrong..

    • @GH-zg2wu
      @GH-zg2wu 3 місяці тому

      Yeah the Lebo crime gangs are great

    • @bootskanchelsis3337
      @bootskanchelsis3337 3 місяці тому +2

      great people, awful religion.

    • @benjamintrevino325
      @benjamintrevino325 3 місяці тому

      @@bootskanchelsis3337 like Christianity.

    • @grabka1984
      @grabka1984 3 місяці тому +2

      There are good and awful people in every ideology. If, in the current era, we had followers of Odin claiming that the only path to Valhalla is through violent death in combat with the non believers, then we would criticize them as well.

  • @pasimajuri1209
    @pasimajuri1209 3 місяці тому +3

    Douglas is our man ! 👍🏻

    • @gehrig7593
      @gehrig7593 3 місяці тому

      Douglas is a fraud, he flirts with christian nationalists and white supremacists.

    • @harrisonclark4382
      @harrisonclark4382 3 місяці тому

      Gaaaaaaaaaay

  • @leviathanv3135
    @leviathanv3135 3 місяці тому +1

    Evil does not have a race, a religion, or anything like that. It can manifest anywhere with anyone.

    • @thomasbardoux1692
      @thomasbardoux1692 3 місяці тому

      That's not entirely true. Evil does not manifest equally. Some religion definitively favors it

    • @leviathanv3135
      @leviathanv3135 3 місяці тому

      Western foreign policy created the mess. Their countries were destroyed. It’s all coming in full circle. Their countries got wrecked now they’re in Europe making a mess. It comes full circle. At some point Christians were the same and it took a while.

    • @leviathanv3135
      @leviathanv3135 3 місяці тому

      @@thomasbardoux1692 western foreign policy created the mess that we have today!

    • @leviathanv3135
      @leviathanv3135 3 місяці тому

      Western foreign policy created the mess that we have today!

  • @penguin1028
    @penguin1028 3 місяці тому +5

    I'm a Muslim, and I love exploring different perceptions people have about Islam and religion in general. However, I will say these types of videos always have comment sections brewing hate and no actual constructive criticism about Islam as a religion. You guys need to get rid of biases that Islam is a violent religion just because of how the media portrays us because it is not a violent religion intrinsically . It so happens that Muslim countries nowadays are horrendous and don't have proper government and off-putting cultural values that have nothing to do with Islam. Islam teaches us not to drink, be kind to parents, and respect and treat others as you want to be treated. If it wasn't for Islam , which led to the golden age of Islam circa 622-1258 AD (An era in which profound philosophers were born and so many common mathematical theorems we use like the Quadratic formula and the creation of Algebra were implemented on this world) we would be so much more behind on our modern advancements. My point is true Islamic culture is timeless and something that is peaceful, and when people cherry pick terrorist groups and a crime that a Muslim commits and group 2 billion Muslims as violent, it just sheds more hate than any religious criticism. I understand religion and Islam gains criticism, but at least understand what you're criticizing, as in actually read and research true Islam from its core teachings( i.e. Quran) and not news articles and videos where they twist Islam and apply there own biases. God bless y'all

    • @NomenNescio99
      @NomenNescio99 3 місяці тому +6

      Isn't it strange how so many people manage to misunderstand Islam.
      Everyone from isis to the western atheists misunderstand Islam in exactly the same way.
      Never mind all the violent verses in the Quran, never mind all the horrible and downright sadistic violence that Muhammad engaged according to the most "sahih" hadiths, never mind the calls for violence in books written by Islamic scholars, never mind the curriculum at al-Azhar University.
      Either you believe in some fairy tale version of Islam or you are outright practicing taqiya.

    • @remove122
      @remove122 3 місяці тому

      The reason people criticize Islam not because they hate you your religion has many good things but also because bad first is no ine is perfect i work with your people we get along really good,you have to understand why people see you guys in bad light most terrorist are Muslims they kill in name of your religion isis claims to be real Muslims even peaceful people in your religion if asked to kill in name of Islam are willing to do so if someone draws your prophet all hell breaks loose lot of your people defend child marriage wont talk about strange beliefs like camel urin is good for you, how many Christians are being killed by Islam just because of their faith so this is just some of the things, now people that are non Muslims migrate to other countries dont want to change new countries laws Islam does my advice to anyone if lot oof people criticize anyone find out why because there is always a good reason for it

    • @nicodemus1010
      @nicodemus1010 3 місяці тому +3

      I'm a human, and I love studying how ideas stimulate groups, the individual. The deeper fundamental mechanics of ideologies in this case, how they impose a worldview. These podcasts are nessecary to open the eyes to the fundamental nature of the religion of peace. Especially if that worldview divides humanity in those that believe and those who do not, the good and the evil. This dualistic simplistic worldview is the recepy needed to fuel the engine of conflict of the religion of peace, which it needs to exist. The violent symptoms, or expressions of the religion of peace in our societies are not bias. These facts are real, you'r veiled argument that the populations of the western hemisphere are misinterpreting the symptoms of Islam in our societies is wrong then you are gaslighting.
      I agree that many muslim nation are at war with themselves or with a neighbour state and 'administrated' by non elected 'leaderships, thus by consequence badly ruled. And many of these nations take sharia as their legal system. I will not elaborate further on sharia here. So Islam is part of those nations infrastructure.
      My parents thaught me not to drink, gamble, violence vs women, narcotics, be kind and respectfull to elders etc. I did not need an ideology. It is common sense (today) and orginates out of a nessecary need to cooperate to coëxist from a tribal perspective. the origin is human, not divine.
      The argument of the golden age is ahistorical to say the least. 634 AD is the year when muslim armies exploded out of the pinensula into the levant and middle east as a whole. You portray the religion as the origin of the golden age. This is untrue, nonfactual and incomplete. Previous civilisations, the meso period and the medes, persians and eventually the hellenistic period produced, assembled this knowledge concentrating it in Baghdad, babylon and Alexandria. The muslim culture conquered and assimilated, they never innovated. And last I looked Euclides is a greek, a 1000 years before 570. Algebra is not islamic, and naming it does not give one ownership.
      There is a period during the 11th and 12 th ct AD ( which ends by the sack of Baghdad in 1258) that there was an intense fever to translate this non islamic knowledge and built further on it. The sack also ended the debate between those who advocated for strictu sensu, ratio over text, argumenting that if islam became too strict and reasoned only from the position of dogma then fanaticism would be stimulated. The group that opposed 'ratio over text' in favour of 'text over ratio' carried the day. And the results of this can be seen and felt everywhere today.
      And lastly the arrogance of claiming that the Kafir does not study your religion and speaks out ignorance is arrogant to say the least, but understandable from someone who is led to believe that muslims are the best of all peoples. This kafir teaches young muslims every day and sees the conflict and frustration that they experiance when the narrative (constructed 230 years AFTER 633) collides with objective reality.
      I do understand what i'm criticizing and have concluded that the religion of peace is not. Do you realize y'r own indoctrination? Do you realize the lens through which you interact with other humans has made you blind to that character you have to emulate whom had a sexual relation with a 9 year old girl? It was a travesty of human relation then as it is today.

    • @remove122
      @remove122 3 місяці тому

      @@penguin1028 yes its violent all someone has to do is draw pictures of ur wannabe prophet

    • @BoomstickFTW
      @BoomstickFTW 3 місяці тому

      Lies and bullshit. Islam is not a religion of peace. Just ask any Jew living in an Islamic theocracy. Oh, wait, you can’t. Because they are either dead or forced out of the country. Very peaceful indeed. 🙄

  • @mmongiello722
    @mmongiello722 3 місяці тому

    Weinstein false equivalence

    • @arturo9079
      @arturo9079 3 місяці тому

      Absolutely. Bret Weinstein seems to be saying "we shouldn't criticize Islam too much, look at our own shortcomings". He disappoints me, I think he has succumbed to political correctness.

  • @boriskaragiannis
    @boriskaragiannis 3 місяці тому

    2:46 so after this fool ethics is subjective...ok you sure?

  • @bootskanchelsis3337
    @bootskanchelsis3337 3 місяці тому

    "Are fig trees better than elephants?"
    Well ... at least an elephant wasn't cursed by Jesus himself.
    but a fig tree was.
    .

    • @grabka1984
      @grabka1984 3 місяці тому

      K.

    • @bootskanchelsis3337
      @bootskanchelsis3337 3 місяці тому

      @@grabka1984 "Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered."
      - Matthew 21:18-19
      He sure told that tree !!!
      *eyeroll
      .

    • @TinnyDee
      @TinnyDee 3 місяці тому

      ​@@bootskanchelsis3337symbolism escapes you?😂😂

    • @bootskanchelsis3337
      @bootskanchelsis3337 3 місяці тому

      @@TinnyDee what the book literally says escapes you?

  • @arthurplant5962
    @arthurplant5962 3 місяці тому

    , I believed, like Judaism always known, that Jesus is not the Messiah. He was only a Hebrew preacher trying to make a living off his followers ignorant, just like preachers and ministers do today.

    • @NM-235
      @NM-235 3 місяці тому +6

      And yet if you said something similar about Muhammad in 1/4 of the world you’d be risking your life. No christian will call for your murder for heresy. And everyone in the US has the right to be offensive and wrong, you just demonstrated that.

    • @bootskanchelsis3337
      @bootskanchelsis3337 3 місяці тому

      @@NM-235 ("No christian will call for your murder for heresy.")
      Are you freaking kidding me ??!?!?!?!
      .

    • @WildBillandFriends
      @WildBillandFriends 3 місяці тому

      @@bootskanchelsis3337 what Christian today are calling for people to be murdered for any reason whatsoever?

    • @markwhite5926
      @markwhite5926 3 місяці тому

      ​​​​​@@bootskanchelsis3337as a Bible student.. we are called to pray for our enemies and to bless them. While we would publicly proclaim the heresy, we would never imprison or even hate that person, just their false teaching! Christians are not allowed to hate peope according to the New Testament. Hate in such a way is not from God. We believe they are blinded by satan and enslaved to darkness and sin.. this should inspire love and mercy for unbelievers...
      The Qur'an says subjugate, murder and enslave in Allahs name...

    • @bootskanchelsis3337
      @bootskanchelsis3337 3 місяці тому +1

      @@markwhite5926 ("The Qur'an says subjugate, murder and enslave in Allahs name...")
      And the bible says subjugate, murder and enslave in Yahwehs' name...
      All that you said before that is simply gaslighting.
      Pro Tip: Don't try to bullshit a former christian.
      Lying about the ideology of christianity does not help the credibility of your claims.
      .

  • @lokihammerfall7781
    @lokihammerfall7781 3 місяці тому

    ...claims Satan,,, very trustworthy LOL