Can the new BMW M4 catch a Toyota GR Yaris?: Steve Sutcliffe track battle | Auto Express
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
- Steve Sutcliffe takes a Toyota GR Yaris to the limit on track, trying to keep a BMW M4 Competition behind. Can he stay ahead?
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The new, 2021 BMW M4 Competition (G82) has already proved itself as one of the most capable sports coupes on sale - an explosive turbocharged straight-six and a sharp, beautifully balanced chassis combine to make it a serious weapon on track. But around the narrow, twisty Llandow track, can it catch and pass a Toyota GR Yaris? The Toyota was built for this place - agile, direct and with four-wheel drive traction, it should slice through the tricky slow speed sections, while calling upon its gutsy 1.6-litre turbocharged motor to fire itself out. The M4 is easily the more potent machine, though, so Sutcliffe will have to bring his A-game to stand a chance.
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With a police wrap on the M4, it would be even funnier to watch. 🤣 NFS Most Wanted style ! 😂
A couple of years ago this would've been ridiculous, Toyota vs BMW's cream of the crop.... That little Yaris is one hellavu piece of engineering
I’m still not liking the new bugs bunny teeth grills on the M4 🙁
The race we all secretly wanted🤣
As a peasant American, be thankful you can even think about buying that magnificent car
Lowlives get to have some fun for owns
*kisses teeth*
now put the cup 2 in that yaris and see what that 2 seconds difference become :) after 5-6 laps at a longer track, typical use in track days, the yaris will probably be ahead
It would, one thing that is misleading when raving on about very heavy fast cars, like the M4, is that barely anyone talks what that does on the components. It's capable as long as the tires and brakes are fresh, but they stay that way not for long. Very normal example of the Nordschleife, where people actually come to use these things. If you drive fast, M3/M4 stock tires and brakes are done after only a couple of laps. Yes, 2 laps and your brakes are gone. Something light, as GR Yaris, can go at least 15.
@@hayashishark7378 100% spot on, well said
GR yaris also has the awd clutch pack as a wear item. For true track durability you want a light 2wd car like civic or brz
@@IR-xy3ij I don t know how long the item you mentioned could last but usually Toyota are extremely well designed and built to last even under stress. Let s say I m sure you can add in that cost and still having it much cheaper than that BMW:) only in tires it would cost you a fortune for every track day. Personally I have an S2000 so I d agree that simple and light is the best option for track days
@@massimilianozeni1848 S2000 is a much better track car than gr yaris. In a lot of ways gr yaris sucks for track use, from the high center of gravity to the extremely short wheelbase and narrow track width and fenders. I think the car itself is heavily overrated, because it's neither fast on a straight line nor in the corners, and on top of that it has overheating problems. I wouldn't be surprised if even a stock camaro can corner faster than it, while being much faster everywhere else with better cooling and cost about the same amount.
loved the ending...that smile...pure bliss. This is what driving a fun should be about!
M4 with AWD is gonna be be 2000kg. Ridiculous.
What mode did you have it in that might make a difference between them both
what a great concept. it opens up so many possibilities for track comparisons which may give an insight into whether it is worthwhile going for - ostensibly - the more capable / expensive car.
And, the tuners are already all over the GR. A little backyard fiddling, some Cup 2s, and Snaggle Tooth will need the rolling start :)
Love it! Need more battles!
Really liked this, well done! One thing though - it would be handy to know whether you had the GR Yaris in Sport mode or Track mode. From the oversteer at the end of the video I would assume it was in Sport mode (30:70)...
how long is your track plz ?
Whats the track called? What times have the CTR and Meg pulled here.
Llandow, south Wales.
@@mikekomor8565 thanks Steve piloted the Fk8 CTR in 45.6s around this circuit.
Exactly what I was thinking. I think the Yaris Gr is a great but have a feeling both the Ctr and Meg would be quicker as long as it's dry.
Love it! Yes, more of that stuff please
M4’s kerb weight of 1,800kg is bonkers. Well done to the Yaris GR! Little beast of a car.
It's a brilliant machine. Certainly lives up to the hype!
how was that well done. M4 was faster by 2 seconds on a tiny circuit
God over 500hp dude.
@@RaGeAlucard come on bro 2 seconds for 50 000 euro more
@@RaGeAlucard this thing is cheaper and it's only an inline 3 which is impressive
Yea, that was cool! Enjoyed that.
When the M4 caught the GR they had a baby Supra.
I stayed with a Clio RS IV just behind an M3 years ago, just the engine gap was too much out of slow corners. Small hothatch are not only pure fun but also quite fast if driven properly!
The boss rules. No 3 cylinder shopping trolley is going to beat the BMW!
Nice and fun video !
That's a really strange comparison haha
Got to admire that BMW, that is one quick car, it just looks ugly though.
I see why you had to give the GR a flying lap and the BMW a standing start, the track is what, less than a mile? 2.2 seconds is a lot of time, 60+m difference a lap, that's a lot.
Cup 2s probably made up 3/4s of that 2 second a lap difference... Llandow is a good real world test, like for like...but once you throw cups in the mix... or even if one car is on Pirellis and the other is on PS4s... subtle tire variances on a circuit like Llandow make a notable difference.
That was fun to watch
It was never a fair race in the first place :)
Steve the man....The best in business !
Love that gr!
Sutcliffe trying to find creative ways for the M4 to lose after the GT4 video 😄
True
The fact the price of the M3/4 has gone up by 60% in a little over 10 years is frightening. It pretty much industry wide up at this high performance category too. C6 RS6 was £80k all in in 2008 and now it's almost £120k.
The F80 M3’s base MSRP was $62,925 in 2013. That’s $73,558 in today’s money.
The E90 M3’s base MSRP was $56,275 in 2008. That’s $71,768 in today’s money.
The G80 M3’s base price is $69,900. Bear in mind that all of these prices don’t factor in the cost of an automated transmission to level the playing field.
Global inflation is the scary thing to note here. Manufacturers are providing-on paper at least-more for less nowadays, especially when you factor in standard convenience and safety features on top of their objective performance and crash capabilities. Granted, they’re more bloated, arguably too refined for enthusiasts, and less “pure” as a result, but the overall offering for the stand-alone dollar hasn’t diminished.
I think the optimistic way to look at things is to soak in all of the sub-Halo performance car offerings that we can purchase now. If you’re not looking to beat down a car on a track and just want something that you can throw around aggressively on a back road, we’ve got more and better choices for our money than ever before.
well, taking inflation into consideration it's more or less 35% and not 60%, which is still significant.
@@its_EZ yep, the inflation over that period was around 30% which is less than the 60% increase in price, however, the new m4 is miles better than the e92 m3 so its kinda fair i guess. Also today you can get a cheaper car that will beat the e92 m3 on track like a gr yaris
More power, more dynamism = more cost to develop.
I remember watching a savagegeese video on the RS6 and he says no wonder why they are so expensive now because of the amount of engineering that goes into these top performance specs is so much now. This is when he was under the body and talking about the mechanicals of the car.
@@supaahflyy yeah but you gotta admit that european luxury cars are kinda overpriced compared to honda and toyota
Try the same shootout on a wet A-road
m4 no where to be seen
@@talharoxen M4? What M4?😂😂
@@bruhwth even gtr and porshe gt3 rs might lost in the wet if there are corners in the track
@@talharoxen gtr may understeer off, GT3 rs is just saying goodbye maybe a 911 turbo s???
Resulting in a big beemer accident
GRY is 2.2s behind without Cup 2s, decent result!
Yep, pretty impressive! Two very different ways of getting the lap time.
Yaris ,,, yes a Yaris .😂
If you think about it, the GR Yaris is the 1980s road legal rally car everyone wish to own,the difference is that the GR Yaris is more comfortable and more practical as well
2:58 Funny how the guy in the M4 slammed on the brakes to make the Yaris look faster and "not beatable" in this race. Really shows how insane the bias is for this car. In reality the M4 would have walked all over the Yaris but magazines don't get paid enough for that.
Yeah BMW doesnt pay their bills but toyota & hyundai do though, cash rules everything around me
It’s like a lion chasing a house cat it’s so funny but mind blowing how it’s able to keep distance on the M4
GR on Cup 2's would have been nice
Would be more of a fair test if you guys put cup 2 tyres on the Yaris is well
Dude “Would be more of a fair test if you guys didn’t give the Toyota a 2 sec jump start.”
Interesting to see how they’d fare over 5 laps of your average UK circuit. Whilst the M4 has the power I bet it would cook its brakes double quick.
The GR to my mind is a better way of achieving the laptime. Add the nitron suspension, proper rubber & a remap and you have a seriously potent car
Yaris also beat GT-R at this track
Swap drivers and Steve would catch the Yaris driving the M4.
Fun video but a M2 comp manual vs GR would have been more fun. Plus M2comp looks miles better than the M4 well from the outside.😊
Do this test on a wet B road - your average UK weather and narrow "fun" roads, then I know which car I'd rather be in.
It's GR Yaris people... not Yaris GR
Why are you comparing an M4 to a Yaris GR?
Probably to keep it fair for the yaris, or they couldnt get a M2 that week. Either way its still like comparing a luxury highway missle to a autocross/small circut track star, both are good it just depends what your goals are.
Please try it the other way around!
Standing start more fair - the GR would win though, despite the conditions being in the M4's favour
Go to 3:00 to see that the m4 was catching and edging but we know (production terms)
This circuit is not made for an M4…
Try the M4 rolling and the GR standing start lol, pointless comparison either way. For me this reviewer has shot he’s credibility.
@@lbarbato6425 Someone forgets that the M4 has more than 550 hp and a faster automatic transmission, and the GR "only" 260 hp ... I do not think it is so unfair that the Yaris is in motion ... If you agree, we will ballast it, also, with a couple of drums of stones ...
@@messnerps3 what is the point really, we could do the similar with a hill trolley as well, flatten the tyres on the M4 or even better, remove the wheels all together lol.
@@messnerps3 how about do the same with a lambo as a comparison too with a ton of bricks in the car with three bicycles on the roof of the car and then see who wins with a rolling advantage from the Yaris. Point in the Yaris is as interesting as a shopping trolley used by your every day cool granny or grandad. Just a bit pointless this sort of race and means nothing.
@@J200S You know what the word "Handicap" means. It is used a lot in sports like golf and it means: "equalize the chances of each contestant so that the competition is fair" And no one sees it as silly. I can agree that you do not like this type of test, but it is a way of calibrating the possibilities of each machine in terms of the possibilities of each one. I would now like a rally test on dirt or wet between the GR and the M4, we leave a little sooner ... the M4. With two balls, as we say in Spain.
Its the driver, not the car. ;-p
I’m sure that I saw Sean and the Yaris driving back after the test. It was the first GR that I’d seen on the road.
If you spotted it on the road close to Llandow it would've been me 👋 Though that specific car has been run by Evo magazine on their Fast Fleet for the last few months, too.
@@alexingram7329 It was by tesco on port road.
Can't even get the name of the Toyota correct. Says absolutely everything!
Well the M4 was at a huge disadvantage with a standing start versus a flying start! On the other hand it is significantly heavier and that won’t help in corners. The AWD version will have better traction, but it’s going to weigh more again…..
The AWD version turned out to be substantially faster but tbh that was to be expected. Over 500 hp on two skinny 285 tires means that it struggles to even go in a straight line. C7 grand sport had much less power but 335 rear tires and it had little problem putting down power.
wait so the Beamer did it 2 seconds quicker but also with a standing start? thats a big fat DUB i think
The times at the end are both from standing start, a fair bit given the short track though
It's unfair competition. Steve is driving one of the cars
Why BMW, the kidneys were just fine...
How about a Hachiroku
You obviously looking for a feel good story after the Spanking of your beloved car Porche cayman 718 GT4 by the Mighty M4.
M4 vs Dacia Sandero, maybe🥴
ANY Steve Sutcliffe content is worth watching!
No - he's a complete flip flop - says whatever the publication that's hiring him wants him to say.
Watched till 16 seconds in when realised its Llandow and turned off. Already know the outcome, talk about horses for courses.
Tiny track very twisty suits the GR Yaris.
Put the Yaris on cups is well.
I only watch when Steve is on job.
Yes
Now do the test over 10 laps. Who ever in their right mind does one lap on a track?
Exactly!
Great test but the Civic Type R was quicker around the circuit than the GR ❗️🤔
try a real race track instead of that gokart track
Surprised you didn't have it in the wet, and make the lap even shorter than the very short lap it already was, to give yet more advantage to the GR.
Bit pointless imo.
that track is barely a mile that m4 caught it in no time
Yaris def needs the Litchfield tune up
M4 too big and heavy
And pig ugly
💥🔥💯🇲🇽
Nice and fun. Why not...
With Stevies name in the title you will get more views.....
So, driver errors Mr Sutcliffe?😎
Imagine a mid-mounted I3 sports car by toyota
Its a good car that is true but its no way quicker than a M4 around any track 😂😂 thats just plain silly
Small track and u say it is uncatchable…. Go to a longer track n yaris will lose on the straights
Nissan Gtr 35 is God of car👍
More "Yay" :)
completely pointless comparison. the cars are totally different. I can't compare a dacia to a ferrari either
What a waste of 4 minutes
who deflated sutcliffe?
That test is completely irrelevant. It shows absolutely nothing at all.
and yaris with pilot cup 2 ….
PS4S
@@relentlesspursuit6894
yes
but if you have cup2 with M4 why yaris not cup2…
I think he means with Cup 2 even faster. Go on Mr Pursuit go Cup 2.😎
@@Dave-gl6jb no thanks - I've got semi-slick R888R on order 😀
@@Arnaud-D agree - on the same tyres the GR would be even quicker
MAD respect for toyota puting frameless doors.....meanwhile subaru and others that had them before they all look like cheap buckets now
My dream car💓
The GR 😎
@@relentlesspursuit6894 yeah buddy
Go for it. Sell a kidney or M4 grill.😂😂 amazing car.
@@Dave-gl6jb i would but no one wants my kidney
I would take the Yaris any day of the week
🤦🤦🤦
Gr may be fun but certainly doesn’t appeal in the slightest. If you have this money to spend why would you blow it on this? Get an amg merc e63, M4, Gtr, all second hand but are far more pleasing to own , appreciate and look at. This is like a pimped up rent a car that anyone who has one of the cars I mentioned wouldn’t even consider racing against this - for what? Like racing a corsa b with a can exhaust.
Best you avoid trying to race a GR - you just end up embarrassed 😀
@@relentlesspursuit6894 yes if you let the gr race past you at 80 mph and then try and catch it on a small stretch but why bother in the first place
@@J200S with a speed limit of 70, the GR is far more useful on UK roads than the cars you mention
Non are as fun tried them all. Especially on a b road
BMW come back
autoexpress bs
Just one more lap & it wld be a wrap!
AMAZING GR YARIS
🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
STOP. CALLNG. IT. A. YARIS. GR. AND. START. CALLING. IT. A. GR. YARIS.
M4 couldn't catch it in the dry warm weather, imagine how it would struggle on a cold wet day!
Great test though - what would they need to run to try and catch the GR 😎
"what would they need to run to try and catch the GR"
Don't give the Yaris a 2s head start? 🤷🏼♂️
M4 has over 500hp and is not a manual so they were trying to even it out. M4 in a straight line any day in the dry but around corners the GR Circuit pack is a weapon.
@@MikeRoss-je2zt who'd of that a "Yaris" with just a 2 second head start would beat a new M4
@@relentlesspursuit6894 on a circuit that is just 500 meters long.
I think an Impreza WRX STi would be a close match if not faster than a GR Yaris.
Glad Toyota finally selling fun cars. They went dark after 2001. Offer a GR Corolla next with AWD.
It doesn't seem like fun car as it's still a Yaris.
@@lecogti177 what do you drive. A BW Jetta ? Yeah that’s totally a fun car that don’t look like a lesbian hipster mobile.
Correction Toyota only went dark in America in other countries Toyota still sold fun cars Toyota chaser Toyota Aristo and a bunch of other cars Toyota only went dark in America not in other parts of the country
Want to watch another lap and m4 get pass
Biggest BS I've ever seen!! M4 will kill the YARIS ! Lol or is the engine made by BMW just like Supra? Lol
The BMW will breakdown before it catches the Yaris