Something I've Never Seen Before! Venezianico Redentore Power Reserve Automatic - Perth WAtch
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- Опубліковано 3 лют 2023
- Review of this good looking dress piece from Venice based Italian outfit, featuring Seiko NE37a movement with power reserve complication!
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VENEZIANICO Redentore Power Reserve 1321502C (feat. Seiko NE37A)
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Seiko uses in some of their Presage models that have a date wheel at the 6 and power reserve hand for quite a number of years already. The sweep of the PR is just in a slight different segment/arc to this one.. I think more from 12to 4 instead of 11 to 3 here.. simple matter of placing the hand in different start point. I've never seen this movement used outside of Seiko Presage models.
Thanks for the info - yeah that’s why I’ve never seen it before… was not likely to come across those Presage models
Thanks Ivan good review 👍
Thanks James!
I have this movement in my Seiko presage. Great movement but I think it causes the thickness.
Me Seiko is also a bit wide.
Not if you can blame it all on the movement alone… the Seiko hides the thickness a lot better anyway
The brand got caught up with the Swatch ETA debacle with some customer service problems with their GMT. I have their Arsenale Ardesio with an ETA mvt. It's a well built timepiece
Really? What’s that got to do with Japanese movements?
Besides, the built of the watch also has nothing to do with whether it’s got an ETA in it or not…
@@PerthWAtch I was just giving a potted history of the brand as they get a lot of stick. I thought that much was obvious oh great one. I merely stated that it was a well built timepiece and made no reference in that sentence to mvt.
Nope. But good on you!
Thank you
Most welcome
Happy New Year Ivan. Interesting watch, but it doesn't do anything for me.
I have a Presage Power Reserve and it's 14.5mm thick too, but Seiko's case design disguises it. It has rounded edges and a slightly cushion-shaped back, also a curved profile on the crystal. Together these hide the case thickness really well. Seiko curve the lugs more too. The VR appears to have a flatter back, so it sits proud in your wrist. Put simply, the slab sides make the watch too chunky.
Yeah that’s probably the same movement too - looking at the design, I think there is no reason why the watch can’t be made thinner, and should. But yes, case design can certainly hide thickness, and should’ve been done here.
It should at least have lume on the hands, it’s a bit pricey also but I do like the power reserve indicator.
Yeah lume would be good
Your notes say non-hacking movement but I think you said it hacks - could you clarify? Great video -
Sorry my silly mistake - it does hack.
A very interesting watch, I say as I sit wearing my Seiko SSA 347J1. The watch you have here is almost a spec 1:1 copy, with what I take to be the same movement, in a basically identical sized case with a butterfly clasp bracelet and dark blue dial. The only material differences are that the Seiko is probably unavailable new now, has a box domed hardlex crystal and a display caseback. Oh and minimal brushed surfaces. However, I do like this watch, and am obviously not put off by the thickness, though I concede it is a weakness. I'd certainly consider it if I didn't have my SSA.
Far from a 1:1 copy… different case, different dial, different hands, different bracelet, different (alleged) thickness… all similarities are pretty much only because it’s got the same movement.
It looks nice but, rather chunky. I thought it would be a little slimmer. 🤔🤔
Yeah would’ve been good if it was indeed a bit slimmer
Yeah, there's no reason for it to be so thick, that's outrageous. Also, I disagree on the bracelet. While very well executed, it doesn't fit this watch at all. The Nautilus and Sinn 104 sports watches use the same style bracelet to good effect, but this is a dress watch. Get the height under 12mm and put a beads of rice or a Milanese on it, and I think they're really onto something. It's a solid offering, though, depending on fit and finish I think the price is pretty reasonable.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Looks like it has the same design flaw as my Seiko Presage with the dark brown dial. Seiko made the date wheel so small, with gold numbers on the brown background no less, that the date is unreadable, even in bright light, or at least, in bright light, at just the right angle, you might be able to discern what it is. I picked it up because I really liked the power reserve indicator like it is shown here, but c'mon man! I have been surprised a Japanese company would let something like that out the door..
Yeah I get what you mean… that’s a bad selection of colours!
Its quite nice, but too deep, and for a watch of that type too large. It needed to be 38mm a maximum depth of 12mm. Thanks for the review
I don’t mind the 40mm, but yeah it does need to be thinner
Hi Ivan. It should be pronounced ve-nets-ya-ni-co. "Veneziano" means in Italian Venetian, and "meccanico" means mechanical, so the brand name is a word play on both these words ("redentore" means "redeemer").
Keep up the great work!
Thanks for that mate - although honestly I don’t think that helps me pronounce it… probably need to look it up in phonetic representation or something.
Only black left at $650 USD on their site. 😢
Such is life
It's actually Swiss
Is it?
hi Ivan. I haven't seen you for a long time. where & how have you been? Hope that everyone and everything are all going well for you and your family.
Venezianico.... Even if I try really hard to be nice to this watch, it would be very difficult for me. So here it is. Honestly, there isn't much for me to like this about. You mentioned that this looks like an Original design watch, but at least to my eyes, it is whole bunch of mixed bags of nuts. I can see so many different watches from this one and they are very obviously put together.
by the way, why Venezianico is bluntly using "Meccaniche Veneziane" (Another Italian microbrand watch) logo? Perhaps Meccaniche sold the company to these two young guys? There got to be some sort of connection. Can you find that out, Ivan?
As for the negatives, besides the nice & classy watch box, the watch itself really reminds me of those watches from Aliexpress (fit & finish and just about everything else).
And if this is a dress watch, what happened with the 14.2 mm thickness (& it looks even thicker than 14.2mm due to the huge & weird looking bezel)? And to me, the bezel (if you can call that) looks really bad. It sticks out just too much (literally throwing off the composition balance of the watch profile) and looks so bland...
Anyway, I do not want to write few pages of the negatives. so I will just stop here. By the way, this watch looks like a watch from few decades ago.
Thanks Ivan and hope to see you more often. Take care.
PS : Sorry about the negatives reviews on this watch, but I haven't see you for a long time and hoping & expecting something of spectacular ....
Yes I wondered where he had gone and why no box spin. Then I checked the channel... Only shows 1 upload a month with 1k views for a while as far as I can tell. Lost the mojo.
@@james241ish ha ha ha. I don't think that he has lost his "mojo". As I know, he is a Doctor (MD), so perhaps he was really busy..
Hi Alex! How you been? All's pretty good for me here... but kids keep growing and getting up to more things... it is almost incredulous to me that I now write that my son has started high school this year!
You're right of course, none of the individual elements of this piece is fully original, or at least we have seen something very similar before... but the combination of elements I find pleasing enough. The thickness is my biggest gripe... they say it's the movement but I reckon they definitely lose a bit of thickness in the space under that glass (and make that bezel better looking in the process).
Not sure about Meccaniche myself... will see if they can tell me.
PS. The box pretty much doesn't spin, too much grip, so rating would've been zero if you must know ;)
Venezianico is the new name of Meccaniche Veneziane. They decided to rebrand and to change name; it is still the same guys. Meccaniche Veneziane did not build a super solid reputation in terms of quality, so maybe this is also a way to cut with the past; overall since they are called Venezianico they did make major steps in terms of reliability IMO
The dial and bracelet are fine but the case is too fat with an ugly bezel. The narrow bezel will make it look larger on the wrist than it's 40mm. At the €500 price it should at least have a 9xxx Miyota movement or even a Sellita.
Nothing wrong with the bezel IMO.
The rest of it I agree, and said as much. Cheers!
The channel has lost its mojo I'm afraid. This is an awful fashion watch. You would get more views if you roasted it like Jody does perhaps? 🤔
Perhaps - I think the watch is fine apart from the issues I highlighted. Not sure if I ever had this “mojo” you refer to!
No, I disagree, it is still the same quality of review.
And copying other channels, especially Jody - meh.