GM 6T70 and Ford 6F50 overhaul
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- This video covers the overhaul of the GM 6T70 transaxle used in many Chevrolet, Buick, and GMC FWD/AWD vehicles. It's also very similar to the Ford 6F50, which is found in many FWD/AWD Ford and Lincoln vehicles. It's a close cousin to the GM 6T40/45 and Ford 6F35, which shares the same design concept and mechanical powerflow. These transmissions are still offered in 2020 models and arrived on the scene in about 2007. In this video, I cover disassembly, inspection, and reassembly of the transaxle along with measurements and some description along the way. You'll find in this video, I also vacuum check the valve body to see if there are any worn bores. Also, I install at TransGo shift kit to address the common valve body issues found in this Gen I transmission.
This video is intended to teach a student or a technician that's new to automatic transmissions the overhaul and operation of this transmission.
This is part of the SIU Automatic Transmissions Curriculum, which can be found at: www.automotive...
Thank you Transtar www.transtar1.com for providing me with a kit, and thank you TransGo www.transgo.com for providing me with valve body reconditioning kits for the 6T70 first and second generation and the 6T40 kits. Look for another video where I talk with an engineer at TransGo to discuss the kits used in the GM FWD 6-speeds.
I really wish you could do this exact procedure on an actual 6F50. I know they are SUPER similar, but the valve bodies kind of aren't. Yes, I know to someone who works on them a lot, they kind of all ARE 'the same', but to those of us who actually need to work on highly specific units (6F50 in my case), I'd love to watch THIS much of a detailed rebuild on the exact equipment. If you can get your hands on one, please video it.
Love how u explained the torque converter drives the drive chain and sprocket assembly
I'm somewhat mechanically inclined. I've done roughly 80% of all my own automotive repairs and never had issues with my work. Transmissions sorta intimidate me. I'm sure it's something I could apply myself and learn, but good gosh that's a lot of moving parts. I wouldn't have a clue how to put all that back together and I guess that's why it cost so much to have one rebuilt/remanned. I tried to rebuild an old Ford F-100 transmission back in the 90's. Probably considered an easy one, but I had parts strewn over 15 ft and couldn't begin to figure out where all the pieces went. I admire this craft. I think it takes know how and talent.
And the engineers who design these are a whole nother level too.
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I managed to replace all clutch pistons without any of the special tools. My special tools were a pair of welding vicegrips, a 3" PVC pipe coupling, 2 small bar clamps and two small pieces of flat steel about 1.5 inches by 3 inches by 1/8" thick.....and a lot of thinking. 🙂
literally just based on the back plate view of the valve body at 8:22 saved my butt SO much time and hassle trying to fit all the pieces back together.
Nice content sir i Miss 6T70 of gmc acadia for 3yrs everyday i had to overhaul this transmission
Nice job...especially the explanation on how to test the valve body and failure points...TCC valve. Not sure if you gave all or any of the torque specs as you were going through...but would be good if you did. I know all of the valve body is 12ft•lbs
Hello! The training is just super! But there are a couple of questions:
1 What is the force when tightening the threaded connections (valve, valve body)?
2 What can replace the door-ease stick lubricant for piston seating. We don't have it.
Best regards, Yura! Ukraine
The valve body bolts and the end cover bolts are torqued to 12 Nm (106 lbs in). As far as door ease, I'm not sure. Sonnax sells what's called the "slippery stick" which is the same thing. Maybe your parts supplier can get Sonnax stuff. Honestly, you won't need it for the pistons in this transmission. You could just use petroleum jelly (vasoline).
@@siuautomotive Thanks! Everything is ingeniously simple! Thanks to your video tutorial, I myself will try to repair the automatic transmission of the transmission (Lincoln MKX 2007 began to slip 94000 miles, 6f50). There are few good specialists in automatic transmission repair in Ukraine. I bought repair kits transtar, transgo, sonnax, wavy disc, made a press. Only there is no catalog, if you can give me a catalog, please send me the address: patukrnafta@ukr.net, it will be much easier to assemble an automatic transmission. Thanks again!
Best regards, Yurii
Wish I could be that clean working on a transmission! Looks like that one has never seen trans fluid. If ti did, how the heck did it get cleaned out so well and DRY!?
Great video. Thanks
Impressive detailed video! 👍🏻👍🏻
Just a quick question, do you need to do a fast learn/reflash on the TEHCM if you install the Transgo Shift Kit?
Thanks for the great information tutorial video. You really help me out a lot. I have some bad pressure switches on this 6T75 Gen 1, 2012 Buick Enclave. I have a question. If
just replace the pressure switches, do have to replace the solenoid filter plate if I don't touch it? Thanks again...
I just finished installing my first rebuilt 6f50, whether or not successful, I hope you can please help. I was careful to make sure the snap rings were in the right location. I built the clutches out using the configuration of the old ones. The one issue I had was the end cap snap ring was really hard to get in. I had to keep the diaphragm lined up to prevent it from trying to get in the snap ring groove. If I didn't have other tools holding it as I went along it would pop out where I had already got it in. Finally, I got it with the help of my brother. The diaphragm was centered, but it seems really tight. I replaced the valve body (Sonnax reman) and solenoid body (Motorcraft) as well, with no programming of the strategy yet. After letting it run for almost an hour and doing the Sonnax recommended shift patterns sitting in my driveway. The shifts felt good, and I decided to see if I could get it to do an adaptive drive cycle, all was seeming ok, with little flare from 3rd to 4th, but not too bad. The road wasn't long enough to reach 50 MPH @2,000 RPM, seems like it may have got up to 5th. I then turned around, after putting it into reverse, which was a little harsh, it seems stuck in 5th or possible overdrive. I came home, less than a mile of driving with it still in this high gear. At home I noticed a noise coming from the Tranny, like something rubbing in a rotation, every time it rotates it hit something, it stops in drive and starts right back up in N or P. I did put a rebuilt F76 reman converter in as well. Any help you may have will be much appreciated. Thanks for the video. Jon
Thanks for this vid!
Chrysler uses 2 wire hall effect proximity sensors for the wheel speed sensors. They toggle between 2 milliamp current levels (6 and 14mA IIRC which makes sense as commercial/industrial gear commonly uses 4-20mA signaling) as the reluctor teeth pass. You can actually hook an LED in series with these sensors and watch it toggle between the 2 brightness levels as the wheel is rotated.
thank you for this video as it helped alot
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Found this video to be the MOST informational on the 6T70 and valve body. If I end up replacing my valve body or 3-5-R wave plate, this will be my goto. Thank you sir for taking the time to provide this. Was hoping for an opinion. I have an 08 Saturn Aura XR 3.6L. P0752 Shift Solenoid Valve -Stuck On. When I put my car into drive from park it lurches forward after a 2-3 sec delay. Not sure if the valve body and that issue are related, bought the car after this issue presented. Any help with the park-to-drive delay then lurching would be REALLY appreciated from ANYONE.
@Jimmy S Thank you sir. I ordered the diaphragm replacement kit. It was cheap and I can return it if it isn't the issue. Thanks again for your time and the reply.
Hello Sean! Please write how to correctly install the Teflon rings (seal) on the central hub, which contains the drum 3 5 R. I don't have j 466 20-1 20-3 b 20-2 (J-46620-1). In order not to burn the transmission at the very beginning of the test drive.
Please, please advise how to do it right. Thanks!
Best regards, Yura!
Ukraine
Hi thanks for the video
Could u help me finding a source that provides the vacuum testing pressure size for Toyota transmission's valve body ❤
Very good video. I have a 6t70 1st Gen, in a 2007 Saturn Aura. Original Owner, transmission never out. Where are you located?
Thx for video, I'm putting together a vacuum tester myself and wonder will shut off , regulator valves work for. What you call air bleed valve. ??? Thanks again for video
I've replaced the TSS and now have developed a leak from the sensor. Can I replace the o ring on this sensor?
I'm rebuilding a 6t70 transmission, installed new 1-2-3-4 piston , does the return spring tabs face up or down?
Sean could you post a pic of holding fixture on the hood for us to see and make one
About 2010 GMC arcadia transmission silinoide code P0752 and P0700 ?
can you replace the wavey plate with a regular steel plate to eliminate brakeage of the wavey plate?
When upshifting and rear wheel lock during upshift could that be a clutch not overrunning?
I have subscribed! Great videos! 👍
Hi, are the molded gaskets reusable?
First off, great video, thanks a lot for this. But I do have one spot where I'm a bit confused. Near the end, when you're dropping the valve body in, I'm a little mixed up with the bolt lengths and locations. You show 8 of one length, 2 of the shorter ones. You drop the valve body in place, then when you cut to the shot of the bolts all lined up to show lengths, there is already a bolt in place that hold that spring type arm with a roller on the end. You don't really show where that bolt came from, and then in the torque sequence shot its one that is being torqued. Hopefully I'm just a goof and not seeing the obvious lol. Only came across this as I had somebody "help" me on the bench, and now all my bolts are mixed up for the valve body and tecum, so I'm trying to use your video to sort it back out. Thanks again
Thanks for the compliment. Hopefully you get it back together fine. Sorry if that bolt arrangement is confusing. Go to my website that has the autotrans curriculum. Find the 6T70 lab manual and I ID all of the bolts and their lengths.
www.automotivetextbook.com/automatic-transmission-curriculum/
good Job Sean
Thanks Art!
Got a question. On the first gen 6t75. I took the output speed sensor off, it has a copper end. The copper end spins freely by hand Is that normal??
This looks doable, but what isn’t is getting the darn thing out of my Saturn Aura, 3.6l 6t70.
Where can I get a press like the one in the video?
what are the torque specs for the valve body bolts
When aligning the manual valve, can it touch the linkage?
Where did you get that Valve Body tray from?
Did you have measurements of the press tools?
2/6 press tool
Question about the 6T70 Gen 2 for anyone that might know. I am getting code p0989 and am wondering how that works with the removal of the pressure switches from the Gen 1 to the Gen 2.
I have a 2019 Ford Flex. How do I find out what generation trans it has, if anyone knows. Thanks.
Parabens, ficou muito bom
Is this a good transmission? A lot of Impalas have them and have issues, myself. Well I had to replace the torque converter at 50k.
The first generation saw some issues, but around 2012 they seemed to have improved them quite a bit.
I have the 6T70 transmission on an 08 Malibu 3.6 and I have the code P0752 Shift Solenoid Valve -Stuck On. Do I have to replace the whole Techm unit?
You might just have some pressure switch films that are cracked. That’s pretty common.
This is the EXACT same issue I am having on an 08 Saturn Aura XR 3.6L. P0752 Shift Solenoid Valve -Stuck On. I came here looking for confirmation I would need to replace the diaphragms only and not need a whole new TECHUM. When I put my car into drive from park it lurches forward after a 2-3 sec delay. Not sure if the 2 are related, bought the car after this issue presented. Any help with the park-to-drive delay then lurching would be REALLY appreciated from ANYONE.
@@jamesj1523 mine would also pause for 2-3 seconds when shifting into Drive but after I replaced the pressure switches it went back to normal. It is a hassle getting that unit out and then a little tricky replacing the switches but if you can do it properly it’ll save you a lot of money. I bought the $30 kit from Amazon and it worked.
@@josephrodriguez7084 Wow, thanks Joseph! Your a life saver (and wallet saver). I was thinking I would need to replace the whole valve body! Found the kit on Amazon.
Hi dear I have 2018 explorer and control transmission opened with random steel ball I don't know where is place
There's 8 holes and just 5 steel ball which one is neglected?
On a 2018 there should be six total according to my service info. The best I can explain is that if you have the valve body with the worm tracks facing up, and the manual valve facing you, the two spots that could take a checkball, but don't, are located in the bottom two spots closed to you on the left side of the valve body. It would be the two spots closest to the lower left corner of the valve body if the manual valve was toward you (6 o'clock position). Sorry, but that's the best I can explain it. There's no way that I know of to attach a picture to the comments section.
@@siuautomotive how I can attached picture on a comment ?
Or can get other facility to attached picture
Here on UA-cam I cannot attached picture on a comment
@@siuautomotive on a valve body there's 4 holes proximity in same line horizontal
And one hole we called no5 little dawn then the six one more dawn of number 5
No7 on the top of valve body left side
There's last one no 8 located on top right but there's no hole on the case ( diskette)that separate between two sections 2 and 3
Thanks for ur answer
Regards......
@@siuautomotive
Now I understand from your explanation manual valve that responsibly to change from park , drive.... and reverse. is located on the top of transmission
On your explanation I have to invers facing me
In that time the two checkball are neglected on the bottom facing manual valve one of them on the left lower side and closed diskette the other proximity same horizontal line but on the right side with open diskette
If my vehicle came with a 6f50 can I install a 6f55 and keep it fwd only?
I don’t think so. The area where your axle would connect is a transfer case mounting surface with a set of splines to drive the transfer case pinion.
Where can I buy a good copy of the manual for a 6F50 transmission
members.atra.com/PDF-6F50N-REB
Can we please get a copy of the student manual?
On this page, you can click on the "lab manual" and get our student manual. www.automotivetextbook.com/automatic-transmission-curriculum/
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Hello! Please help with information on the operation of the automatic transmission thermostat:
1. How to check its operation (removed from a car).
2. The need to replace it with a new one during the repair of the automatic transmission, or leave the old thermostat.
3. Teflon rings in the Transtar set for 45 mm - 5 pieces and there is 1 piece for 65 mm. Where it is installed at 65 mm ..
Tell me what should be the correct dimensions (on the outside) of the Teflon ring after replacing it with a new one using the installer on the hub of the rear cover.
I will be very grateful for your help.
Regards,
Yura! Ukraine
Hello Yura, regarding the thermostat, I think I wouldn't worry about it if the transmission didn't have any overheating issues and the transmission failure didn't involve the torque converter failing. If it did, I would replace the thermostat/bypass assembly. Once you get the transmission going, the bypass will open when the transmission warms up, and you'll feel the lines carry warm fluid to the cooler. That larger seal is probably the stator support to torque converter seal. Regarding the outside dimensions of the installed seal, I don't have that information. Just make sure the seals are compressed enough to fit back into the end cover. Then keep the cover on the seals until you are ready to assemble the parts into the transmission. If you don't have a seal resizer, you can use your fingers to squeeze them into the grooves. Then you can wrap something around the seals and use a hose clamp to squeeze them into their grooves a bit more. The teflon seals have a memory, so they'll stay compressed for a bit. If you do one at a time, then try the end cover, you can get a feel to see if they are grabbing the end cover with a little bit of tension.
That larger seal I think you are referring to goes on the part shown at 20 minutes 40 seconds. I didn't talk about it in the video.
@@siuautomotive
Sean, I'm very grateful for your response and the time you spent on it. This information is important to me.
I take this opportunity to congratulate you on the upcoming holidays. I wish you success and new achievements in everyday hard work.
Regards,
Yura!
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