FULL STORY: The 1962 DeSoto Could've Been This Beauty!

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  • @bretfisher7286
    @bretfisher7286 2 години тому +30

    Wishing you, Adam, and all your viewers a contented and peaceful holiday season.
    I've very much enjoyed the channel-- very enjoyable. Thank you.

    • @kenon6968
      @kenon6968 Годину тому +2

      Hey I hope you have a great holiday season too

    • @GSKYYT
      @GSKYYT Годину тому +1

      Merry Christmas to you too

  • @coreyjones1518
    @coreyjones1518 2 години тому +17

    I think the example is beautiful! It would of been nice to see it go to production.

  • @20CentMotors
    @20CentMotors 2 години тому +9

    The '63 Chrysler line may have been influenced by this DeSoto. First, the chrome strips that run along the edge of the hood and down into the grill. Then the 2 tone roof would only have to be simplified to begin the canopy roof, either in paint or with vinyl, at the leading edge of the C pillar.

  • @sterlinsilver
    @sterlinsilver 2 години тому +10

    I think the entire original concept line for the 62's was very beautiful. One can only dream of a world where they all made it to production...

  • @brentfairlie9159
    @brentfairlie9159 2 години тому +11

    I really like the rare end of this design to.

  • @ThatSteven20
    @ThatSteven20 2 години тому +5

    The final design is classy

  • @bozodog428
    @bozodog428 2 години тому +7

    The Dodge Polara 500 convertible is one of my favorites for the 1962 MOPAR line up.

  • @waltyc.8577
    @waltyc.8577 Годину тому +5

    It looks very Plymouth Valiant to me. The Barrcuda is one of my all-time favorite cars.

  • @jandh413
    @jandh413 Годину тому +3

    Really loving this channel!

  • @davidbroughall3782
    @davidbroughall3782 2 години тому +15

    The rear treatment on the first clay model looks an awful lot like the 1961 Oldsmobile with that reverse fin at the bottom.

    • @dustin_4501
      @dustin_4501 2 години тому

      Yeah I also have some Oldsmobile vibes, I wonder if Chrysler stole it, or is it just a coincidence...

    • @20CentMotors
      @20CentMotors 2 години тому

      me too, but mine comes in the form of the 1960 Olds. While the upper section had a horizontal fin, it too was very slim compared to the billboard the lower skeg created for the model nomenclature. We had two in our extended family and that part of the car always caught my eye.

  • @mkernen
    @mkernen 2 години тому +8

    Imagine stamping that rear quarter panel!!

  • @Cadillac61
    @Cadillac61 Годину тому +1

    The 62 convertible mock up looks great! I like the upside down 64 impala taillights. The sedan looks great too! Great video Adam!

  • @danielulz1640
    @danielulz1640 2 години тому +4

    The last car that you showed was to have been the downsized senior body for Desoto and Chrysler. The front doors and cowl would have been shared with Dodge and Plymouth, but with with rear doors and quarters shared with Chrysler and on a 120 inch wheel base. The senior car program was canceled, as was Desoto itself, and the 62 Chrysler was a 61 Dodge, with new quarter panels only, and a 61 Chrysler front clip on the 122 inch 61 Dodge wheelbase.

  • @20CentMotors
    @20CentMotors 2 години тому +7

    note the curved side glass. The '62s were supposed to get that Imperial exclusive treatment. I've read it greatly disappointed Exner when it was not part of the package.

  • @roballen5404
    @roballen5404 2 години тому +4

    Yes. You are totally correct. This is the best looking 1962 Mopar I have seen this incorporates all the quirky stylish nuances with none of the gaudy but ugly weirdness that the others went with.

  • @Sedan57Chevy
    @Sedan57Chevy 2 години тому +7

    I went into this video expecting to be horrified... but I'm with you, that final proposal is actually really, really nice. Odd, yes, but its got some awesome elements too. I think the strangest element of the 62 Mopars were the front "wings", which make me wonder if Exner saw the 59 Chevy and Buick's horizontal fins and decided to add them to the front? That first proposal looks like it contains elements of the 61 Cadillac, 62 Buick , and 61 Chevy (going backwards).

    • @emjayay
      @emjayay 2 години тому

      These all have that same kind of skeg going back into the front door. I have no idea where the idea came from but I've always liked it. First seen on the 1960 Valiant.

  • @1962polara
    @1962polara 2 години тому +3

    This reminds me of a variation of a 58 impala. The two tone roof of the DeSoto is also found on the 58 Impala and 58 Bonniville. The quarter panels are a toned down gull wing . The 3 tail lights
    .........all impala.

  • @kipbrown1549
    @kipbrown1549 2 години тому +5

    They should have made that the Plymouth !!! It would have sold well !!!

  • @quincyq-radio6300
    @quincyq-radio6300 2 години тому +5

    Very cool

  • @joehumenansky8225
    @joehumenansky8225 2 години тому +3

    The first proposal looks like shades of the '61 Oldsmobile. The second proposal was interesting and somewhat handsome. It is unfortunate it wasn't used by one of the other divisions.

  • @Tony-hx2fj
    @Tony-hx2fj 2 години тому +3

    I liked the unconventional styling of the early and mid '60s Chrysler styling. My dad had a '62 Dodge Dart wagon and I liked the distinctive front end. I especially liked the '63, '64 Chryslers. If they did make a DeSoto like the shown, I'm not sure I would buy one. but I would appreciate seeing it on the road.

  • @mrluckyuncle
    @mrluckyuncle 2 години тому +2

    The first clay model seems like a combination of random design ideas. Like a committee decided to let each designer have one thing.

    • @emjayay
      @emjayay 2 години тому +1

      Full sized clays really did function that way, to see various ideas full size.

    • @Rob-yr3vw
      @Rob-yr3vw Годину тому

      Each after all the designers came back to the studio following a four martini lunch.

  • @61rampy65
    @61rampy65 2 години тому +2

    I really wonder if Virgil Excess had started using LSD by this time. The 57s were great, but seemed to get more bizarre each year after.

  • @johnandrus3901
    @johnandrus3901 Годину тому

    I like that last DeSoto design. It had a bit of a Buick look, with the angled head lights, kind of like a LeSabre. It's too bad that they didn't continue with the DeSoto line, as it may have been a winner for Chrysler. An excellent video, as always.

  • @mopartony7953
    @mopartony7953 2 години тому +2

    7:27 rear doors are a trip.

  • @michaelwhite2823
    @michaelwhite2823 2 години тому +2

    I think we have the same car book because these are the first car that you've shown in proposal form that I've seen before. I like the last proposal and agree it was cool. Too bad the 62 Dodge didn't get this styling. Ah this is a perfect segue into a video 📸 n the Dodge 880.

  • @jefffixesit60
    @jefffixesit60 Годину тому

    Great job as always, thanks Adam! The 3rd and final clay models would have been by far the best looking mopar’s for 1962. The rear styling appears to have been somewhat adapted and adopted for the ‘62 Dodge full size models. Thanks again for another awesome episode!😎❤️

  • @______638
    @______638 2 години тому +4

    says it's a beauty but the lancer looks the same and he called it ugly.

    • @guylr7390
      @guylr7390 Годину тому

      I can’t see how he likes this car but the Lancer was weird. The Lancer GT in the start of the video yesterday was great looking to me.

  • @49commander
    @49commander 2 години тому +3

    It's too bad there aren't more photos of the original 62 line-up before Newberg had the designers butcher them due to hearsay. I know all 62 models had a theme similar to this DeSoto including curved side glass! What photos I have seen look way better than the actual 62's that had Plymouth dealers ripping up their contracts!!!

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 Годину тому +2

    Adam, With DeSoto's future imperiled, I hope the designers got paid for their work. 😉

  • @markdc1145
    @markdc1145 2 години тому +1

    Enough styling themes for eight cars ...on one!

  • @nonelost1
    @nonelost1 Годину тому

    11:11...I like those front fenders and rear quarter panels. Though I imagine that if they were only slightly to mildly damaged in a minor accident, the collision repair to pound them out would take a while.

  • @Ozark_Bule
    @Ozark_Bule 2 години тому +4

    Definitely like the rear better than the front. Those headlights just ruin it for me.

  • @islandaerial3414
    @islandaerial3414 2 години тому +2

    That rear wheel arch looks kinda' Lambo Countachy

  • @stevestratton1063
    @stevestratton1063 Годину тому

    I agree - they should have made this body style. It might have been a few years ahead of its time, but it may have become a classic.

  • @robertalbertson889
    @robertalbertson889 2 години тому +4

    Wow! In my personal opinion, they missed a great opportunity to sell this absolutely stunning car to the public! What a complex, beautiful car! There's a couple of little things I'm not a huge fan on, but overall, I would have bought this car every day and twice on Sunday if I had enough money, hahaha 😅
    I really truly feel this car was a huge missed opportunity by Desoto/Chrysler, and what a shame. 😊❤

  • @CS-oe8og
    @CS-oe8og 50 хвилин тому

    2:26 I can’t recall a caprice in the early 90’s with skirted rear quarters.

    • @trudygreer2491
      @trudygreer2491 20 хвилин тому

      They weren't regular detachable skirts, the quarter panel just came down low across the top of the tire like the final DeSoto model here. Lasted 2 years. For '93 they made a complete wheel cutout which allowed them to push the wheels out a bit and gained couple of inches in the rear seat..

  • @dustin_4501
    @dustin_4501 2 години тому +2

    Chrysler's early 60's ideas were interesting but they really could use some critical eyes with some revision some of their designs could have competed better against GM and Ford.

  • @MrPoppyDuck
    @MrPoppyDuck Годину тому

    No matter if you like the design or not I think most people would say it is different, which to me is very cool.

  • @jeffking4176
    @jeffking4176 52 хвилини тому

    The front of the second DeSoto has elements/design cues of the early Valiant.
    Definitely interesting.
    🚗🙂

  • @CDKDC
    @CDKDC Годину тому +1

    Surprised at all the likes. I can take the rear, but the front, not for me. My parents had a '54 Mercury Monterey that I thought was a looker for the time and traded for a '64 Chrysler Newport that I think tops this one. But hey, that's me.

  • @ronsloan7662
    @ronsloan7662 5 хвилин тому

    Hey Adam, I've never seen this concept before and I think it's pretty neat. Too bad it never made it to production but back then, the economy was not the greatest and of course Chrysler had a bit of a financial problem which isn't anything new. Cheers!

  • @stickshiftdriver1832
    @stickshiftdriver1832 Годину тому

    I would love to see an A.I. design of the 62 Plymouths and Dodges without the crazy side design but just a clean fuselage look from front to rear

  • @jeffshadow2407
    @jeffshadow2407 Годину тому

    The SHOE comic strip still uses the DeSoto as the featured automobile.

  • @emjayay
    @emjayay 2 години тому

    These are all similar to the 1962 Plymouth and Dodges, cars I've always loved other than a few details. These kinds of proposals were also intended to see what various ideas looked like in a full sized model. They often had different stuff on each side.
    You didn't mention the curved side windows seen on these and other proposals. Chrysler had experience with them with the 1957 on Imperials. But apparently management nixed them for production in the lower models. Ford used them on the 1961 Lincolns and Thunderbirds and then management made them go back to flat windows before returning to the curved windows along with everyone else in 1965 probably because of problems and complaints. Oddly the windows on my over 40+ years old at the time 1962 Lincoln didn't leak any water or air despite those original door gaskets.

  • @barrykochverts4149
    @barrykochverts4149 2 години тому

    I agree that this might have been an Exnerism that could have worked, although I wonder about the chrome headlight surrounds on the front view. I would simplify the rear fender and get rid of the upside down check mark, making the arc in the window less drastic, and would remove the chrome molding on the front fender.

    • @emjayay
      @emjayay 2 години тому

      The chrome headlight bezels were a clearly retro touch by then. Exner was sort of postmodern decades earlier, like with the freestanding chrome Imperial headlights and freestanding tail lights too.

  • @markmaiello9180
    @markmaiello9180 Годину тому +1

    Chrysler should have manufactured this…they missed out.

  • @ronalddevine9587
    @ronalddevine9587 Годину тому

    The side view of the 4 door model slightly resembles the early Valiant.

  • @fleetwin1
    @fleetwin1 2 години тому +3

    YIPES!

  • @propagandatwo
    @propagandatwo 2 години тому +1

    I like it. Maybe Chrysler had just given up on DeSoto by then?

  • @thomastoler2397
    @thomastoler2397 47 хвилин тому

    I really liked it and I agree, it’s a shame that Dodge didn’t pick it up and use it for the 880.

  • @bryantint1339
    @bryantint1339 Годину тому

    2000 Chrysler Voyager can be DeSoto like 2017 Chrysler Pacifica too. Thinking of modern equivalents on the street. Never had the chance to drive a DeSoto.

  • @DSP1968
    @DSP1968 Годину тому

    There is just a lot going on here....as I suppose there should be, since these are all design proposals. Very interesting to see, and not all design ideas were bad. I don't find the final '62 DeSoto proposal super attractive, but certainly salable for the day.

  • @kleverich
    @kleverich 2 години тому +6

    These designs look like they were rendered by AI.

  • @TonyKuehler
    @TonyKuehler 2 години тому +1

    Maybe it's just the angle but the backup light in the rear 3/4 of the later proposal appears asymmetrical, maybe I just can't see the right side. I agree with the comment about the overall design being handsome, I think the size has something to do with that. I think many of the 62 Plymouth and Dodge designs were supposed to be larger but shrunk at the last minute, to their detriment styling-wise.

    • @emjayay
      @emjayay 2 години тому

      Often various design features were different on each side. They were trying stuff out.

  • @dfresh6059
    @dfresh6059 Годину тому

    My dad had a white 62 Belvedere 4dr with blue interior. 318, Torque Flite PS, PB. It was his last car. Many Memorires. An odd looking car especially in the back. Even with the optional back up lights.
    I hate the Thumbnail pic and LOVE THE CLAY MODEL. Virgil Exner might have kept his job.

  • @edmontontangobar4991
    @edmontontangobar4991 Годину тому +1

    I see a strange relationship between these studies and current SUV styling - lots of overwrought, tortured details and weird proportions.

  • @leonardpoindexter5289
    @leonardpoindexter5289 Годину тому

    The front reminds me of the 61? Buick Invicta.

  • @garyv2196
    @garyv2196 2 години тому +4

    Whoever designed these cars were on Acid.

  • @judih.8754
    @judih.8754 Годину тому

    In the first clay model the chrome in the front is not balanced with enough in the rear.

  • @edwardallan197
    @edwardallan197 2 години тому +2

    The relativity of ugly is complicated by the so ugly it's funky factor. So it's all back to loving or hating these Mopars.

  • @michaelmullard4292
    @michaelmullard4292 2 години тому +1

    I agree about best qualities of the convertible. The sloping, tapered rear trunk lid is quite elegant. I rather like the design of the entire convertible. The other designs are, to me, just…bizarre.

    • @emjayay
      @emjayay 2 години тому +1

      This general styling first showed up on the 1969 Valiant, including the down tapering trunk.

  • @jimf4492
    @jimf4492 2 години тому +2

    Well, I'm not sure any Chrysler product in 1962 could be called "handsome", but I guess in the world of 1962 Chrysler, this might be the pick of the litter. It's amazing how, just a year later, we got the Riviera, and most of the Pontiacs and many other GM products were very "handsome" throughout the 'early/mid 60s. Chrysler was just weird, although many years later, Lexus seemed to be inspired by the design of the '61 Plymouth...

  • @patrickradcliffe3837
    @patrickradcliffe3837 Годину тому

    That 62 has a lot of cross pollination Plymouth Valiant and Dodge Lancer.

  • @bryantint1339
    @bryantint1339 Годину тому +1

    DeSoto was cool. Chrysler replaced DeSoto. 1974 Chrysler Newport and 1980 Chrysler Newport were the replacements. However, DeSoto was cool, nonetheless.

  • @mossi408
    @mossi408 Годину тому

    It seems to be, as the Convertible (2nd) and the following Sedan (3rd) are very similar.

  • @stickshiftdriver1832
    @stickshiftdriver1832 Годину тому

    I think that the 62 Plymouth Fury would had looked much better if the the side blades or moldings weren't there. It would had been a clean fuselage design from front to rear. It would had been the first successfully downsized American car that would had been more appealing to the American and foreign consumers.

  • @davidbolt5113
    @davidbolt5113 Годину тому

    2:44 Designers were playing with ideas. The green house is rather elegant. The front has some interesting features that could be fleshed out. Overall, there are many ideas going on, and I’d imagine this kind of clay model was a way to inform Exner of many design cues, that could be cherry picked. 4:44 This vehicle had a flair other carmakers did not dare employ: the vehicle is more sculpted and there are various design flourishes (again likely to try out different types of surface decoration). PS - the best years of DeSoto, 55, 56, 57….

  • @mrluckyuncle
    @mrluckyuncle Годину тому

    I do like the last clay model. The design is certainly more coherent than the first. Still… probably would have been out of tune with the times in the early ‘60s in terms of buyer preferences. But looking at it now I see something more timeless about it than in the “weird” Chrysler designs.

  • @bobcoats2708
    @bobcoats2708 Годину тому

    I don’t see it myself. To my eye, the design doesn’t stray far from the recently roasted Dodge Lancer.

  • @Napier363
    @Napier363 2 години тому +1

    I hated the fender skirt body style on the 90s Caprices!

    • @Romiman1
      @Romiman1 2 години тому +1

      I love that. It's so American. Sadly it's gone totally nowadays...

  • @aca2983
    @aca2983 Годину тому

    Still weird, but probably the better of the late-Exner designs. I still feel a lot of "jet age" aviation influences, just without fins.

  • @Greg-xv9qj
    @Greg-xv9qj Годину тому

    It seems like another auto design to use the same bumper both in front and rear ,something Rambler Studeabaker Checker and some others not coming to mind

  • @emjayay
    @emjayay 2 години тому +2

    Desotos were always warmed over somewhat cheaper Chryslers. Sometimes with some cool stuff, like the 1942 hidden headlights and on some a steering wheel hub that could feed the driver a continuous supply of cigarettes. And the 1957-58 took the Chrysler fin sheetmetal and made something brilliant out of it, making it look like the bumper curved up to the top of the fin punctuated by the three small round tail lights, above where the through the bumper exhaust pipes bisected it.

  • @dosgos
    @dosgos Годину тому

    Futuristic and beautiful design if you cover the very back and very front of the model shown at the 3 minute mark. The body was very well conceived. However, the front and rear ends were cluttered messes with the designers tanking on a lot of rubbish for lack of a core vision.

  • @danr1920
    @danr1920 2 години тому +2

    My eyes hurt.

  • @AlexanderWaylon
    @AlexanderWaylon Годину тому

    Looking 63 Electra 62 Cadillac here Pontiac ish at the front??? … first proposal …. They get worse as they go on to me… the back light reminds me of a say 71 full-size GM pillared sedans… it definitely looks Virgil Exnir. Those side panel bodylines are vaguely i say vaguely 1973-1980 Monte Carlo almost. Idk about that car. The 78 El Camino had a vinyl top similar to that, it split but not no where near as drastically, the b pillar with a vinyl top molding as an option. I’ve seen paint options like that (Pontiacs maybe some Berlinetta or Firebirds in 70s???) but having a hard time thinking of a chrome molding in that location.

  • @jerrywood4508
    @jerrywood4508 2 години тому

    I thought the front end of the first design looked like a Mercury.

  • @marcelgaud
    @marcelgaud 2 години тому

    Now wait a moment Alan, think about that front window,, and the '64 Green Hornet (imperial),,, and for that matter, that rear window also?

  • @DaveonGrave
    @DaveonGrave 7 хвилин тому

    Clearly these cars were designed in the era when having a couple of martinis during lunch was the norm.

  • @crabbymilton390
    @crabbymilton390 2 години тому +1

    DESOTO was CHRYSLER’s division they meant for it to compete with OLDSMOBILE. CHRYSLER just could never get it’s quality problems under control. Interesting just the same.

    • @emjayay
      @emjayay Годину тому +1

      Through various names and owners they have been consistent on this from 1957 to today.

    • @crabbymilton390
      @crabbymilton390 Годину тому

      @ I can’t decide who’s worse FORD or STELLANTIS. They almost went out of business several times. If they had kept up their quality, they wouldn’t likely have been in those messes.

  • @TXGRunner
    @TXGRunner 59 хвилин тому

    Looks like a nicer, more elegant Dodge Lancer to me.

  • @rickh8380
    @rickh8380 2 години тому

    I've never been a MOPAR fan. GM and Ford only for me.

  • @hynestimothy411
    @hynestimothy411 Годину тому

    I can hear the clunking suspension and the rattling windows even now
    What's really funny is how people are paying close to a million dollars for a hemi cuda or challenger. If they only drove the cars and experience the low quality of the interior, the over assisted power steering, bad handling,etc, they might regret what they bought

  • @marcelgaud
    @marcelgaud 2 години тому

    "SORRY"> Adam..................................!!!!!!!!!

  • @dans8287
    @dans8287 2 години тому

    Seeing all of the cars that Virgil Exner designed over the 7 year span he was at Chrysler it seems like he was always trying to outdo the previous years designs no matter how far out they looked. In my opinion a lot of these "odd looking" designs grow on you after a while. Soon after I see one of these videos I'm like "I need to get one of these!" Thanks for reigniting my interest in the '62 Chryslers. Well maybe not! Ha Ha!

  • @DavidNaquin
    @DavidNaquin 4 хвилини тому

    would have made a great plymouth

  • @67marlins
    @67marlins Годину тому

    These were creative, but too much downward trunk slope means you'd have trouble knowing how far to back up.
    Cracked taillights and busted garage walls.....not practical.

  • @bryantint1339
    @bryantint1339 Годину тому

    1990 Chrysler and 1993 Chrysler Concorde can be DeSoto. DeSoto was cool, but modern cars can supplant it. I do like DeSoto. Read about DeSoto in auto repair manuals in the 1980s.

  • @josephpiskac2781
    @josephpiskac2781 2 години тому

    I love the Chevys from this time because they where no nonsense like a civilian Jeep. These Desotos make no sense to me. I fail to understand what was the intent.

  • @bretfisher7286
    @bretfisher7286 2 години тому +2

    At 2:20 (it's clay, isn't it?), uh, my goodness-- how utterly hideous! It looks like several concepts stitched together!

  • @jeffaulik3980
    @jeffaulik3980 2 години тому +1

    Adam, I think you need to see an opthamologist right away if you like the looks of these mockups.

  • @AnyoneSeenMikeHunt
    @AnyoneSeenMikeHunt 2 години тому

    😀

  • @JohnnyAloha69
    @JohnnyAloha69 7 хвилин тому

    Adam, we share a lot of similar automotive tastes but we are 180 degrees apart. These cars are just awful with horrible detailing and awkward proportions. Looks like Homer Simpson design.

  • @kleverich
    @kleverich 2 години тому

    Virgil Exner...smh...

  • @scarbourgeoisie
    @scarbourgeoisie Годину тому

    Save for the '64 Polara, Mopars were pretty ugly in the first half of the 60's.

  • @dfresh6059
    @dfresh6059 Годину тому

    Too Bad Chrysler Downsized the 62 Plymouth & Dodge.

  • @robertpolnicky7702
    @robertpolnicky7702 Годину тому

    Why dont they produce that today. Elon musk somebody. The intellectual property copyright probably expired by now.

  • @edwardp3502
    @edwardp3502 Годину тому

    Exner’s 1962 designs were horrible across the board, from Imperial to Plymouth. Whatever magic he had in 1957 was sorely missing by ‘61.

  • @chriscadman6379
    @chriscadman6379 2 години тому +1

    Hello.