Amorim to reveal what went wrong when he met Sullivan | Coach to spill beans on West Ham meeting
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- Опубліковано 24 кві 2024
- Sporting Lisbon coach Ruben Amorim is set to reveal why he turned down the job of West Ham manager when he flew to London and met Hammers owner David Sullivan
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The simple answer is Amorim briefly met Sully and is an excellent judge of character!
In a nutshell 😂
To be fair it’s not that difficult to spot a Megalomaniac, if you know the signs!
💯 mans a 🤌⚓️
I speak Portuguese and I just watched a long interview with this journalist on Portuguese Television. The good news is the "error" that the journalist refers to apparently has nothing to do with how he conducted himself or what he may have said during his interviews with Steidten and Sullivan (they're not even mentioned either by name or title).
The journalist speculates two possibilities for what the error could be. The first and most likely admission is the timing of his trip to London and what verbal promises he had made to Sporting about the nature of the trip - namely, that it wasn't really an "interview" per say, but turned out, in fact, to be just that - in other words, that he misled Sporting.
The journalist then leaves open the possibility that the "error" is that his trip to West Ham was taken as cheeky by Liverpool and thus hurt his chances of getting the job there.
We'll have to wait and see, and it could be that the journalist is totally wrong. But at this point, it appears that the "error" is not related to details during his West Ham meetings. Let's hope that is the case.
Thank you for letting us know as it would seem we are all reading the situation wrong.
Cheers for that update, so it looks like Amorin made the errors, he might get sacked!
@@celtichammer2847 they won't sack him as they would have to pay him off and that would free him up to join another club. If he is to move on this summer then the new club has to compensate Sporting.
@@PokerMuppet Yep true, I can't see 'em being daft enough to sack him paying up to £20mill, they can't be happy knowing he's been secretly seeing people to discuss a job without telling them first.
I can see Bayern Munich Milan or Manure trying to nick him.
Legend. Great post.
Asked the question on Tuesday amid the euphoria ‘Has he met Sullivan yet’? Now he has and guess what….
It's about time the rest of the board stood up to Sullivan.
Im sure whatever it was, it was probably the opposite of what Sullivan should have said/done. Typical.
as soon as I heard the words David Sullivan is interviewing candidates my heart sank
Its definitely time for Moyes to move on, but my biggest fear of him leaving is already playing out before he's gone. Sullivan bringing his gremlin circus back into town.
Living in Portugal, I am going to be really interested in what Amorim has to say later on TV! 🙂
Let us know lol
All Hammers fans will value your input
@@Ironluke As soon as anything breaks here I will let you know lol
Sullivan was only gonna gave him a budget of two bob to spend 😂😂
@@curtisalleyne3710 If he gave him half as much as Moyes had, he would build a much better squad than Moyes could ever dream of!
Sullivan kept calling him ‘David’…
🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
Why would you be put off by a meeting with Sullivan?!? I just don't understand it... 😅🤣😂
😂😂😂😂😂
I reckon he had "fck this" in his mind within five minutes of meeting the monumental peasant that is David Sullivan.
Prob told him he'd have to play Phillips
What went wrong when he met Sullivan? He met Sullivan
I think our biggest problem has always been our owners. Look back to the days when we had the best youngsters coming though: Rio, Lampard, Cole, Carrick etc. All sold and replaced with players nowhere near as good. Even in the last 5 years or so we have had the opportunity to push forward and for whatever reason we have missed out because of a lack of investment particularly in the January windows. I think Moyes has to be credited for what he has achieved, whilst the football hasn't always been the easiest to watch he has delivered us a trophy, 3 successive seasons of European football, and almost breaking into the Champions League. Unfortunately, the squad has aged and his style of play isn't suited to some of the players we have brought in so we come to that stage again where we have to rebuild. Personally, I think Sullivan should trust Steidten and let him have full control over the team but I don't think he will and this will yet again prove to be a missed opportunity, especially if Steidten walks away.
I won't be happy if Amorim has been spooked by Sullivan. Even if he is our benefactor.
We could get a young dynamic manager and this talented team on the front foot...except for the two flies in the ointment...DS & DM
What an potential opportunity lost by Sullivan . With Amorim and Steidten we could have gone to the next level . I hope all is not lost and we can recover it
Are we seriously surprised if this is true? I'm certainly not
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Just out of interest A Bola Portugal ran an article yesterday stating that West Ham were worried about the "20m euro" release fee!
What are the other ‘investors’ saying about this stuff? When Steidten came in we were led to believe there were other forces at work in terms of the change of direction, so is Sullivan reneging on all of that .
Come on, we all know what really happened. Amorim had spoken to Steidten on the phone so he was interested in knowing a little more about the club and its owners BUT after meeting Sullivan he went back to his agent and said "No way ... the guy's an idiot ... a crazy little Nepoleon weirdo ... I would rather play for the fat septic at Chelsea"
This should be interesting. Typical West Ham drama.
Exactly right mate
We don't need Amorim to tell us what happened with Stingbag Sully. Wonder if Sullivan offered him Super Scrumptious Sally on the side, instead of the release clause?
I think Sullivan should get a grip and sign Amorim and move the club forward in this new era.
That Lopys agent is Sullivans agent mate.
Spanish Moyes love it. 😅 sad thing is your 100% right. Sideways move. Useless
I think that was it.. He met Sullivan.
Couldn’t organise a P Up in a brewery! My Effin club!
We’ve missed two golden opportunities in the last 2 januarys. What makes anyone think we wont go for the Hat trick.
Nice one Gonzo. I don't think we will know who the manager is until at least June. Even if the club know themselves already. Sullivan is so tight with information he wants to keep to himself, whereas he leaks the crap he wants us to believe.
whole thing sounds completely ridiculous.
If the structure is working as intended, the new manager would be reporting to steidten and steidten would ultimately be able to sack them if he wanted to. So why should he not be the one selecting the manager?
Club does my head in. Need new owners.
From Steidten’s viewpoint I would imagine he would prefer a fellow German like Tuchel whom he is friends with or Hansi Flick to work with . And Sullivan has made it known that he would like an experienced manager who has won trophies at top level, both fulfil that criteria. But Amorim, has also got pedigree for a young manager, he’s won things . Hansi Flick favours a high-pressing, fast-paced football and believes the best defense is unrelenting aggression. That was the Bayern way until more recent appointments of Thomas Tuchel or Carlo Ancelotti who play a more structured way. There certainly wouldn’t be any dull boring games with him in charge. I like Flick, but any of the three I’d be happy with
I'd really like Flick, and I guess Steidten could get Tuchel through their friendship, which would be welcome. I'd also add Fonseca to the mix, though he's close to qualifying for the CL and may prefer to stay put.
@@harrywix yeah I’d go along with that choice as well
What went wrong was he met with Sullivan! Also he was only using us to force other clubs hands he was never coming to our club.
We need to do like Palace going from Hodgson to Glasner
Do you think Glasner will be as successful as Hodgson?
@ironix1 Of course he will be. I have a lot of respect for Hodgson but come on, Glasner is a Europa League winner and he has a young, dynamic side to deal with.
Sorry just don't want lopetegui at all
We are getting used. All the talk about west ham offering more sounds like a bargaining negotiation with sporting or others. And considering we got bad history with sporting ("dildo brothers") sounds like pettiness
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This is my biggest fear that Steidten doesn’t get the coach he wants resulting in us getting another Moyes type manager.
I can see our TD getting frustrated & leaving
What I can’t see is West Ham hiring a like for like guy in the David Moyes mould. What would be the point. You would be better off keeping Moyes in that case. Whoever comes in will be under no illusions that a different style of football would be expected and working with a DOF as well. That’s the path we seem to be hearing through the grapevine and hiring a manager along those lines is what I expect to happen.
This will be very interesting
If he only met Steidten then we were a chance but then he met Sullivan who offered him £100 a week for forty years.
No to Lopetegui
I’m starting to really dislike the name ‘David’
everyone knows its Rodney
It’s time Sullivan appoints somebody else to do all of these types of negotiations.
Yep, Sir Alan Sugar.
@@celtichammer2847 Claude Littner would be good
@@kaisermaschine 😁.... 😳 He's a bit too Spursey
There will be no ‘project’ under Sullivan
He never was gonna join West Ham he was trying to force Liverpool hand
Prefer Arne Slot myself ... typical West Ham ... leave it too late to sign him
Who else thinks its going down to the beginning of the season with 20 different names and they keep Moyes. This is Westhams M.O
Why would Amorim join West Ham, with no European football, when he is with Sporting and will be playing Champions League next season? Liverpool, yeah, I get it, he would be interested in that role but us? Come on!
Firstly because we are a premier league club in London which has a big say in where managers want to move their families to. Secondly we sell out most if not all of our home 60k seater stadium games. Thirdly our transfer budget will and should be a lot bigger than sporting Lisbon. A manager who comes into a club that's not qualified for Europe might see that as a blessing. Because let's say the first year of management he accomplished European football. That's a win for the manager.
Let's not downplay how big a pull the manager's job is at west ham.
Embarrassing from the club yet again
Steiden won’t stay at West Ham he’s literally been brung on for a mess around to give us hope …. Sullivan will always get who he wants the geezer thinks he’s god …. I’m the most miserable fan right now because it’s embarrassing weekends gonna be terrible
The more of this stuff I read from these type of sites indicates that outside of a few people nobody has a clue whats going on and it’s all unsubstantiated piffle to fill media space
Spot on.
Absolutely. I watch several sites , and generally go full circle and remain uninformed or mildly amused.
This is much the same as our transfer windows, throw enough names into the pot and it will garner interest somewhere. Reminds me of when at very young age you were still clinging to the hope Santa existed, pull the beard off......David Sullivan.
Amorim is out of the picture now as he rejected a deal, correct me if I'm wrong?
Another possibility is that "not going well" means Amorim didn't do well. Perhaps he was called out as to whether he's playing games to get interest from Liverpool accelerated.
Probably not but you'd think Tim may have reined in Sullivan's tendencies a bit.
Also I think Amorim is going to be pretty naive in spilling any beans if he does choose to. Other owners in future aren't going to be particularly impressed and may put them off him if he's not going to keep private conversations to himself.
This is not going to reflect well on the club. Won't help us get a new manager in!
Don't think our rep can get any lower Sullivan and his board see to that
Reckon what went wrong is he met Sullivan.
Sullivan 🤯
Im taking this all with a pinch of salt.
Sullivan...you can have £180 million for transfers
Amorim....that's awesome when can I have it???
Sullivan....as soon as we've sold paqueta kudus and bowen it's all yours
Amorim....erm bye
The club is in a great place financially, now will we see real investment to grow the club, or will that just mean a bigger share dividend for the Shareholders, sadly I know which I think is more likely. I still refuse to believe that we will finally be Moyes free until it is announced publicly.
The contract was almost signed but the sticking point was that Sullivan refused to throw in his first edition Razzle magazines. ⚒
😄 Lol, He chucked in a years subscription of his personal collection of Busty Barmaids but the pages were stuck together.
He probably met DS at Sullys house and took one look and threw up!
I have supported West Ham since 1968 , seen many dips but was always blowing bubbles that faded and died , now wind forward , we are now in 2024 . For how long do we still keep on blowing bubbles ?
What manager, or even person with a bit about them would want Sullivan as their boss? I wouldn't. A job interview is a two way thing. He probably ran out of that door
Sullivan says it all
I think your right to be nervous regarding up an coming events and once again the poison dwarf has got involved in something he’s clearly useless at and that’s “negotiating”
TS is the man and if we lose him I’m fearful that we go back to fighting relegation battles again and we lose our top players like Bowen and Kudus - don’t know what he’s playing at maybe we should buy him an XBox and Football Manager software so he can feel the thrill - this is not a game to be messed with - he’s had the vision to get Steidten in so now leave him alone and let him do his job the very same one you employed him to do ⚒⚒⚒
He pissed himself laughing at what sully said
So we’re banged on to hire Lopetegui. That way Sullivan gets his Moyes but with an e optic name, and he gets to get rid of Steidten without having to fire him, assuming Tim throws up his hands in frustration and walks. As for Amorim, I don’t believe for a second that he was interested in joining our club. He’s not an idiot. He will know the history of David Sullivan. He’ll know that if he joins West Ham he will get handcuffed and hamstrung and his career will stutter for 2 to 3 years. As ever, until Sullivan leaves or dies we will remain a sleeping giant.
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Sully wants to keep Moyes and wants stieden out.
He can if he likes but he'll also have a empty stadium to go with merchandise sales at an all time low
A disaster for Amorim could be Sullivan not willing to pay him £20m a year.
Oh dear not again 😮😮😮
Sooner Steidten figures out the colour of Sully money (invisible) the sooner he will leave. Not that I particularly want him to go, but nobody in their right mind can work with Sully. Moyes is built of steel, he came back for more and even he's had enough.
He has Liverpool after him why would he come to the hammers and tight arse sullivsn
Really no point Tim S staying.... Sullivan in full control. We had to wait until he kicks the bucket, his misses needs to go into overdrive in the bedroom 😅
Clearly Sullivan hadn’t seen his therapist prior to the meeting. Can you really trust this bloke to get the appointment right? I very much doubt it
he didnt seem that unhappy as he came off that plane back in Portugal smiling like a Cheshire cat , but we all know Sully will go for the cheapest option
2 bob stadium, 2 bob manager, 2 bob board
Sulivan really can’t help himself can has to have his mits over everything
A certain agents in Sully's ear again?
Don’t believe it Gonzo. It will be Amorim resigning and coming to West Ham
I think its a smoke screen 🤔 maybe he is coming
Joke of an owner. Holding us back, lined his pockets.
Sporting Lisbon?
It's not a good look and sullivan is at it again..However - I want someone to manage west ham that actually WANTS to manage us. This guy is clearly waiting g for a better offer. Its not even up for debate
Irs because he's signing for the hammers!
Never any interest .....stage managed agents time wasting ploy.... He is a manager of one of 4 clubs that win everything in Portugal.....he ain't worth the fuss
What is he doing coming over here in the week of a massive game for his club. Weird
Probably flew him over to show off his koi carp pond knowing how he conducts himself
Toot toot
Gonzo, I’ve said this for years. Sullivan is the reason this club is such a shit show.
How many players have turned us down after meeting him
How many clubs has Sullivan pissed off trying to buy players
How many managers have turned us down after meeting Sullivan.
Wonder how many potential investors or new owners have tried to or won’t deal with Sullivan.
He’s a fucking cancer for our club.
Please God no not Lopatentpeg. 🥴
Amorin must now be thinking, I've made an error & Sporting will probably sack me, but FFS why not, cos if granpa Moyes can win 1 flowerpot vase cup in 4yrs i can win the CL & PL every season. ⚒️
The manager/ coach position is crucial for our improvement. Just remember Aston Villa last season. Villa are a very similar status club to us. European pedigree but never quite dining at the high table. They got rid of Gerrard and installed Unai Emery, who had failed miserably (and some would say unfairly) at Arsenal. Look where they are now. They shot up the league and are worthy of fourth place. Yet is their squad any better than ours? Sullivan undermined Steidten over Amorim. He has got to keep out of the way. For once in his life for God's sake Sully, let the Director Of Football do his job and just stay out of it.
Bournemouth under Iraola are improving steadily and now Palace look exceptional under Glasner too. If Moyes was bread, he'd be a loaf of stale sliced white...
@@dirkdiggler1 Yes I do like the Bakery theme. On that basis Karen Brady has got to be sourface dough bread. And David Moyes is Hovis (brown bread dead).
More importantly, how did this band wagon start about Moyes out? How did the media get hold of it? Was there hundreds of banners, protests and songs in stadiums...no.
This got started from a few fans sites saying it as it is for so long.
Why on earth you think Moyes will stay is beyond so many
This is terrible. Seems like Moyes and Sullivan are made for each other. Both too cautious, outdated, slow, hesitant, scared of change. Moyes can't stay. Sullivan must let Tim do his job or he'll end up going and we'll keep Moyes. Nooooo.
poison dwarf strikes again!!
Moyes might be motivated but you are talking about the death of our club if he is given a contract . But it sounds like Sullivan has purposefully destroyed the meeting with the best coach in Europe. The fans must turn their attention on this barstool Sulllivan.
Sullivan has wasted a lot of money on signings that moyes did not want and then no more funds were available. Vlasic and Ings were expensive mistakes.
Lop is old news, he isn't in the frame
There's no conflict between sulli and steidten, leave th drama for clicks to the rags
I bet Amorim is still on the cards as the club consider options of which there are countless
If we’re getting a new coach then Sully should keep out of it and leave Tim to do his thing.
Think we got more chance of signing Klopp!?
Smoke and mirrors, watch the TNT after match footage of Europa league game shh! Alonso inbound.