Diagnose A Code P0016 On VW Passat, Tiguan, CC, Jetta - TSI/ CCTA 2.0 Turbo - 2009 & Up
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- P0016 - crankshaft position camshaft position correlation bank 1 sensor 8
This code will cause multiple misfires, check engine light, EPC light, hard starting, long crank time or no starting, long crank time, or no starting. All related to P0016 code, often misdiagnosed.
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This is extremely good information...... Thanks for the lesson on how the cam magnet works and the part that comes out that controls the flow of oil never knew how this all worked. Thanks!!!
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@@Motorcarnut Hey, after we drove the car about 50 miles, had the same issue happen when we started it this morning. Looks like the new VVT oil control valve has already popped out (Dorman brand). We bought the car about 8k miles ago from a VW tech who had rebuilt the engine completely, do to a timing failure. We've had a camshaft position sensor code since we bought it, but tech said it was from the ECM being replaced during rebuild and not to worry about it. Could it be that he didn't get the timing right or possibly it has skipped a tooth, or could the Dorman unit just be a POS and I should go OEM? Could it be the Cam Adjuster Magnet (the pin is moving in an out decently). We replaced the Cam Position Sensor to no avail. I'm guessing it would be the same with the Crankshaft Position sensor. Definitely ran flawlessly for about 50 miles last night, then back to square 1 this morning. Thank you sir!
@Trouttdawg no it’s probably nothing electrical, remove the solenoid and see if the oil control valve popped out again. Let me know.
Swapped out the VVT again with a new one (1st one lasted a day). Same thing. Worked well for about 500 miles after the install of the 2nd new one (car was running great) and replaced the camshaft adjuster magnet as well just in case when we installed the 2nd one. Now, engine running terrible at low idle. EPC back on and Camshaft pos sensor bank 1. I think there is a VVT at the oil pan as well. Could that be the issue. Or next step being oil pump? We have gotten a couple of low oil pressure lights at lower RPMS over the last 2 months, but VERY intermittent and go away as soon as RPMs go up from about 1300. I'd hate to think it jumped a tooth on a timing chain with engine rebuilt with new (upgraded) tensioner 8k miles ago. Penny for your thoughts sir? Here's a bit more color: we've replaced the PCV, cam sensor, crank sensor, VVT, cam adj mag, inspected the cam bridge (looks like a new one when the engine was rebuilt, screen was perfect). Ross tech scan shows ECM isn't vin matched. Ours is a manual and think the ECM came from an automatic. Also, ABS sensor on front left (replacing Sunday), A/C compressor showing ground fault, and a few other things. Replacing plugs, coils, and new coil connectors as well on Sunday. I doubt that will do anything, but coils and connectors are in bad shape either way. Any direction you could steer me in would be great as I'm nickel and diming this thing. Thanks!
@Trouttdawg The oil pan sensor is not for vvt , it’s a temperature sensor. Did the oil control valve pop out again?
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Very good advice in this video. Mine acted up after a routine oil change. Still not sure why. But sure enough it was that control valve. Thank you.
Sure, no problem. Thanks for for feedback.
I'm having the exact same issue, happened right after an oil change!
@@phtevenchevas3960 It was a pretty easy fix once checked.. Mines running fine since.
Ty for that info it helped me a lot
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Wow thanks you so much mine has maf sensor, knock sensor, fuel pressure sensor, cmp sensor, multiple cylinder misfiring, but it start but shot off after running for 2 minutes by itself 😢 but I will do it as you just explain now ty .
No problem, good luck!
I can already tell you you have helped me and I still am trying to get stripped torx bolt off I think that's why it hadn't been changed !! Thank you I couldn't find where the oil was coming from now I know ? Friken awesome 👌
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Ok so good news is i was able to look at the part, it’s still pushed in, it’s not pushed out. It had a lot of oil around it so i cleaned the oil away (didn’t replace the part) and now i get p000A and p0011
I have fixes on those codes too, look in my channel contents
Thanks!
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Great video! I’m having this code on my 2010 Passat CC. Recently inspected what you mentioned and mine is flush not protruding like the example you gave. Car turns on but runs really rough at idle. Any suggestions would be appreciated!
Ok, I bet the ball valve in the cam cradle blew out. Or do you know if the timing chain tensioner was ever replaced? Is this the only code your getting?
Good evening, thanks to your videos I have dared to do things to my Tiguan with a 2.0 TSI engine, I have a question, how can I check the 2 parts you talked about? Because I already checked the solenoid and at first glance it doesn't seem to have any problems. Thanks in advance. Greetings
Did you take the solenoid off to see if the oil control valve button is sticking out?
Hey love the video and it may have answered this question but just want to make sure, i have a 2012 vw cc lux and the code im getting are p0016 and p0506
The P0505 is probably because of the timing and P0016 code
Got it, thanks
@randygrant56 no problem
Do you know of a way to get the top screw off because where i put the bit in, it won’t turn i got the other two off but that one won’t come out
@@MotorcarnutI have p0016 and p2293 at the same time, have you seen this before?
Thank you so much for the video. It is very helpful to understand what's going on. Specially, when you explained the symptoms of the car that has the p0016. I have question; I have the p0016, p0106 and p2271 on my 2.5 2012 Passat. Are these codes related to each other? I have replaced the sensors and the solenoid valves lately and still p0016 and bad performance. the car stated to burn a lot more gas is it because the p0016? thanks again for your helpful videos.
Thank you!
Valve timing itself can be off. Has to be checked.
@@Motorcarnut Thanks for your reply!
@alialgharibawi9647 sure 👍
Thanks for the info! Is this also indicative for the 2.5?
The code and it’s symptoms are
Great video and explanation - thank you! I have the exact symptoms you are describing on 2009 VW CC. I just removed camshaft adjuster magnet and looked at the oil control valve but in my case it looks like it is flashed at the bottom similar to how the parts are shown at the dealer website. I am getting P0016 and right now the car won't even start after cranking for 10-15 seconds. Do you any other suggestions?
Yes it can be the cam bridge, check out my other videos on how to replace it, little more involved but not bad. Good luck!
@@Motorcarnut Awesome, will do - thank you for reply!
@coyotte8030 no problem
I gotta 05 Touareg and i had this code amongst those other misfire codes and maf sensor codes...it cranks but no start what do you think?
Check valve timing and cylinder compression first.
I have a 2016 with 1.8 TSI with same codes. Could this part your talking about in this video be for my engine as well?
Yes it can
2007 Passat wagon has this code along with a few others. Car starts and idles fine, will slowly get up to speed but has no real throttle response. Does this sound like an oil control valve issue?
Yes!
My 2014 Jetta Se is currently throwing this, p0341, with check engine light and noisy engine while accelerating, any idea if it’s just the sensor? Local shop quoted me 120 diagnostic when I have my own reader
I have a video on that particular code. Probably not the sensor but timing chain problem.
m.ua-cam.com/video/Wf3j0cBnGwM/v-deo.html
Thanks for the vid, much appreciated. 2.0 tfsi Audi CJEB engine. Chain was rattling and replacement was done. I had some Throttle and MAF correletion DTC, replaced PCV valve and it went away. After that cleared, now I'm getting a P0016. Engine performance is fine and one kick start. Sometimes it has an erratic/misfiring idle and once I rev it a little, that goes away.
The intake and exhaust cams both use cam adjuster valves. Previous repair shop stripped off an oil strainer on one of the valves, meaning that one valve has a strainer and the other does not. Could this cause oil pressure differences between the two cams and affect the timing setup? Hence the P0016?
Can be yes also oil control valve and cam bridge check ball are known to cause those problems. Got videos on them as well.
@@Motorcarnut Ohk thanks. My bad, it's a 1.8t, not a 2.0. Anyway this cam bridge doesn't have a check ball.
This was just a budget backyard repair and the car owner uses it daily. Once I get access to the car I will just remove the other strainer and see if the error goes away.
@mpho1247 oh ok let me know if it fixed it
@@Motorcarnut Certainly.
@@Motorcarnut I ended up pulling out the engine because of excessive oil consumption. So I replaced the piston rings and the two oil control valves. No more DTC's now..im pretty sure the problem was the missing strainer/screen.
I am having the same problem, but the only difference is the piece that is help regulate. The oil mines is fine. The button is not pushed all the way out but when I took the cap off there is oil leaking out. Should I just replace the whole thing?
Oil is supposed to be in the oil control valve. You may have a cam bridge check valve problem
So I started following your video, you say (2:55) to first disconnect the plug to the solenoid and make sure there's no oil in there...Mine was wet with oil - what could that mean? There was also a little oil pooling at the bottom when I removed the cam magnet. However, the oil control valve didn't appear broken (the tab was still flush). I did still remove it and wipe it down. The pin in the middle of the cam magnet did move in and out, but maybe not as freely as it should....
The P0016 code came immediately after an oil change - trying to figure out if its related to an error/sloppy oil change.
Clean the oil out of the solenoid plug and it should be replaced but the oil inside where the magnet is, is normal and supposed to be there. If the oil control valve center button is flush and moves in and out then the cause is probably the cam bridge check valve. I have videos on the removal of that too, it’s a little more involved to remove but worth it.
I have a 2014 Volkswagen Passat Pride starting it it wouldn't start replaced battery and it started but it was making a small grinding sound sound at the beginning of starting took it to the mechanic he said it was the solenoid replaced it doesn't work now he's saying something about the cam timing chain still haven't been able to find the issue any ideas of what I can do next
Can be a lot of things that control the valve timing such as the cam bridge check ball, the oil control valve that the solenoid controls or a bad tensioner.
I have a 2016 Volkswagen Tiguan with the same starting problem and code P0016. What model can I buy?
Just fix yours if it's a nice vehicle, they all have problems but once fixed there great vehicles.
I’ve seen in other videos that I have to stop the crankshaft from moving because taking off the oil control valve and putting it on may affect with the timing, is that something I should be worried about when screwing in the new oil control valve
Not true
When i attempted to install mine my cam jumped time. It could be because the chain was already bad but i would be very careful with replacing this part. When i attempted to do the oil control valve i did more harm than good. I need an engine now...
@seamus205 It jumped because chain tensioner is bad. You don’t need a new engine, just have to replace tensioner redone timing and oil control valve. I have videos on all of those things!
@@Motorcarnut it jumped by like 5 or 6 teeth. I haven't run the engine obviously, since i knew it jumped right away. You dont think it bent valves when it jumped?
Yes, but that doesn’t mean you need a new engine?
Would I need to replace a gasket around the solenoid if I do this repair?
Not if it’s not ripped
We took out the 3 screws and removed the front piece.. the pin comes out but once we removed it we notice a good amount of oil was out is that normal or should it be dry?.. also the solenoid middle button looks flushed like you said it should be.
The oil is normal and correct the button should be flush.
@Motorcarnut we got that p0016 code can it be anything else.. my car won't start after that code
@brendaavila435 if you still have the old timing chain tensioner it could of made the timing jump. I have many videos on that as well. Can search VW on my channel
Thank you so much I'll give that a check..
Hi.. so we took the car to the dealer and they are saying that I have to replace the head gasket and timing chain.. do you think they are being honest?
im having this same p0016 code on my dodge magnum. I changed both sensors and still throwing the code. Can you assist me with some information pleaser
It’s common on your vehicle to jump timing. So I would start there and check to see if valve timing mechanically is correct.
What is the name of the part you replaced? any link to buy it from?
It’s called a oil control valve, look on Amazon with your year and model. You’re going to need a special tool as well.
What should you do if the code comes back? I’m stuck on this one. 2009 VW Passat with the code P0016. At first it ran fine and once I turned the car off and back on the check engine light and same code came back.
Just answered
What do you torque the part to
What part?
Thrown codes im getting are P0016 and P0011. Could this fix both, or two different issues?
Yes, if not could be this:
m.ua-cam.com/video/TdBiepLv8Vw/v-deo.html
Hi HELP!! Hi Checking zero compression measurement with p0016 activated I will have to check the head, the fault occurred when cold
Probably bent valves if timing chain tensioner wasn't replaced. Have many videos on the issue you may want to check out.
You must be a genius. Let’s just say I wouldn’t have found that if my life depended on it. Also this is following using your head removal video to fix carbon build up on intake valves and also had slightly bent valves. Which what would of took you a couple hours, took me days to complete. Then just to fire it up and have it run like it did before which was crap. Misfiring like crazy. So I got the codes, searched them up and it led me right back to you lol. And sure enough that little “dong” was sticking right out. So I’m hoping and praying that solves it. 2 days from rock auto and it should be here. At first I thought too, oh maybe it’s my coil packs or sensor I forgot or something or maybe dare I say if, I had the timing wrong... So I tried to diagnose but every cylinder was mis firing according to my scan tool. Anyways long story short. Thanks for the major help! God bless!
Thank you so much for the write up, Yes that should solve your misfiring problems. If the oil control valve fails the computer can't control valve timing and it will misfire. Let me know how it works out!
She runs like a gem now, perfect.
That’s crazy that little mechanical piece can cause so much issue.
Also have you ever tried to fix it by hitting the centre of that valve back in? I took my old one and tapped it back in and it just popped right back where it’s supposed to be? I still have a new one but might work for temporary purposes.
@joelhiebert3129 I wouldn’t play around with the old one, it’s a precision piece and can make things worse. Glad she’s running properly. Thanks for the update and good luck!
What is the name of the tool you mentioned?
Look up VW Oil pressure valve tool
Will it work the same with a V6 passat?
Similar
Would you know if the 2012 Golf 118 tsi is related to the same issue. I get the same code, but it goes on and off
Yes codes are related
Thank you
@86Ovca welcome
Can any body show me the location of the same valve for WV Jetta 2012 s 2l. Thx
If the solenoid control valve is flush and still have p0016. Is there valve damage? On cold engine dry compression test all cylinders are at 90psi. Is that good or bad??
No valve damage because of oil control valve. 90 psi in all cylinders is ok for a cold engine. I would check the cam cradle oil check valve, a lot of times they become loose and create your problem
@@Motorcarnut I just took off the cover to see the tensioner. I stuck a small flathead and was able to compress the tensioner easily. As far as my understanding, that shouldn’t be able to be that easy to compress the tensioner. Also, tensioner is the old common failure tensioner. Uffff hahaha
@ivanvega2821 Yes, Unfortunately. I bet it jumped a tooth and that’s your whole problem right there and with the compression readings you probably didn’t bend the valves which is a good thing. I have all kinds of videos to help you do the timing chain tensioner yourself.
@@Motorcarnut if I could take a picture of what I already have off of the vehicle. You would be proud! Thank you so much for your knowledge transfer. I’m having a heck of a time taking off the motor mount bracket hahahaha
Thank you!! I bet I would! Yes the bracket lower bolts are triple square and very close to the frame rail. I cut the socket bit short to get to the lower rear bolt and used a 13 mm wrench on the bit to get them loose.
Ive got p0016 on a vw ea111 twincharged engine..any leads??
Different engine but same code should be same diagnostic procedure
Long cranking..random misfires..same symptoms..😢
Yes it’s probably an oil control valve problem
I just did a timing chain job on my mk7 gti and got this code but I made sure everything was aligned. My car starts up just fine engine sounds normal so I’m confused
Can be the cam bridge. Sounds like an oil timing pressure problem.
Hi same problem.... I have changed everything I can think of.. I am starting to think diagnostic machines is missleading us and we looking in the wrong places 😞
Any1 here who has sloved for the P0016 code because it is breaking our pockets (golf 7 gti 2013 model... 🤧
@WesleyMadai-tp5yp You have to understand how something works in order to fix it. And not just throw parts at a problem. What did you do so far? And did you watch my videos ? I have many on this situation
Oil control valve 😝 plz come bck and let me know that da error code did not come bck
Thank you I am sorted.... was da "oil control valve" 😄
Can I get a link to the replacement parts for 2014 Jetta?
What part?
Could this possibly fix p0017? Or is that something different?
Yes they are related
@Motorcarnut where is it located on the v6 can't find it?
@Edwin_VR This video is on the 2.0 Turbo not the V6
@Motorcarnut yeah I know, but do you happen to know where it would be on the v6?
My VW Jetta says it has a VVT solenoid not an oil control valve. Are they the same thing?
No, the solenoid controls the oil control valve
When I went to look up the part for the oil control valve it says there isn’t one for my 20-6 Jetta GLI SE
Then you have an oil control solenoid it’s 2 in one
I have the code but I don't have the phaser
What are you referring too?
@@Motorcarnut I have a sohc with the 0016 code
I have Volkswagen passat 2014 p0011
Try this:
m.ua-cam.com/video/TdBiepLv8Vw/v-deo.html
Mine looks like there is a hole with nothing to push.
Then it’s no good
Hey mate what’s the part number?
For what? The tool or the oil control valve?
Oil control valve mate. Legend appreciate the fast reply!
Would you happen to know the 2012 Tiguan 1.4 litre vvt solenoid part number?
You can look up the part numbers here, then search them online for the best prices.
vw.oempartsonline.com
And search with you vin number for exact part for your vehicle.
What is the part #?
I don't know what you are referring to?
@@Motorcarnut nevermind i found it👍🏼
what is the name of the part ???
Oil control valve
@@Motorcarnut thanks, why would my EPC light turn off and on so intermittently. It will go on and then then next couple days come back on but initially it was a p0016 so will change that
Valve could be sticking causing the intermittent problem
@@Motorcarnut is it ok to drive then, the lights have been off for a couple of days now
Where’s the part number
For what? The valve is called an oil control valve and the tool is VW TSI 2.0 T timing kit tool