Powermate 9 in. 79cc Gas Edger review and tutorial PWLE0799
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Versatile, adjustable blade for bevel edging and more
Gas-powered with easy-start, 4-stroke OHV engine
Curb-hopping feature drops tires to create a clean edge
3-1/2 ft. per lb. , 4-stroke OHV engine delivers powerful, efficient performance
Curb hopping feature allows the front and rear tires to drop for a clean edge
Triangular 3-point blade offers versatile cutting power
Blade angle adjusts +/-15 degrees for bevel edging capabilities
Sturdy metal frame ensures a durable design that can withstand the challenges of a high maintenance yard
Gas-powered with manual recoil for an easy-start fuel delivery system
Metal blade-guard works to extend the life of the blades
Tip: My daughter has one of those machines and it’s great but the choke is really sensitive and it can flood easy, so the best way to get it started quickly is lift the choke lever, then pull and if it sounds like it’s trying to start , turn the choke off and pull the string a couple more times and it should start immediately . Found out if you keep the choke on and keep pulling it will flood the machine. And that’s a great review by the way , thank you so much for showing us how it works !
Awesome feedback, thanks Carrie!!!
Will gas flood out of machine, my step dad has this one and he says it keeps leaking gas
I just bought one of these tonight and I've never used one before. After watching your video I am so much more ready to give it a go, than I was before. Thank you for this video!
You got it Brett. Ley me know how you like it
Just bought a new one of these edgers at Home Depot ($199). Started on the 2nd pull and runs great. Once warmed up, only takes 1 pull to start. The salesman @ HD recommended ethanol free gas, and that seems to have been a good decision. A primer bulb would be nice as well as an inline fuel cutoff valve. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the feedback David!
@@ToolReviewZone I have a similar edger, it has a choke and a throttle. Do you not have a throttle lever?
It does, but the actually fixed this issue. I did another updated review on the upgraded edger and it works great
Powermate starting problem. i am 76 years old and can not pull several times. i have read all the other solutions to the hard to start. i found the "OCTANE BOOSTER" added to fuel was the best solution. if i don't use the POWERMATE for a couple weeks i pull the cord a few time to prime and then pull to start and it starts very well. "OCTANE BOOSTER" solves the staring problem. i sometime put a cap full in the tank and bang it starts powermate makes a great unit.
no, your not the only one that has a tough time starting, that is the biggest flaw with this machine, thanks for the demos, that's what I was looking for
Thanks for the feedback David!!!
Love this tool makes my customers lawns look perfect
4 cycle small engines frequently have automtic primers instead of the pump-the-ball primers that 2 cycle engines typically have. If this edger has automatic priming it sure doesn't work all that well. My fix for my edger was to insert a one-way primer bulb into the fuel line. You'll need a marine-type in-line primer bulb (about $10), and a short piece of fuel line since there isn't any excess in the area under the gas tank to play with. Also a couple of hose clamps. It took me about 30 minutes, and the setup works great. I toyed with the idea of fabbing up a fuel tank cap with primer bulb in it like those used in some Homelite chainsaws, but the marine in-line bulb seemed easier.
Awesome. Thanks for the great idea
2 things: what size bulb did you purchase and what diameter is this products fuel line?
This edger has a choke only
Thank you so much for telling me this
Thanks for the info about hard starting. I sprayed a short blast of starter fluid in the air filter intake. I started on the first pull after I assembled the unit out of the box on a 50 degree day
It run like a champ
I agree and thanks for the curb video part, had no idea how to adjust. As far as starting I keep the carb cover loose and squirt carb start in and starts immediately.
Powermate fixed the problem with starting. I bought mine in 2020 and it starts on the first or second pull provided the ambient temp is 70 degrees F or higher. If it is below that temperature it can be tough to start. If I'm planning to use it when its cooler weather I put a parabolic space heater aimed it for 30 or so and that seems to make it start easily.
I have one of these also. Always a pain in the butt to start. Once it is running, it does an awesome job, but very hard to start.
I have to use a little starter fluid (a bit of which is sprayed into the air intake) when it is hard to start because of a cold night. Then it starts on the first pull. When it is warm at night, I find the unit always seems to start on the third pull without using any fluid. By the way, this unit is really excellent and a bit fun to use when edging the lawn. 😀
Great video. Edger veteran. This model is powerful and adjustable, but seems to be missing any curb guard, and it is hard to see where the blade is landing - all that is bad when it grinds up both the blade and sidewalk. Ideas anyone? Other brands/models sometimes have a small tab or guide to prevent blade wear.
I bought one of these yesterday. All I had to do was to add gas, as it was put together at the store and had oil already in it. Cranked it off easily the first time. Ran it to do one single row along my sidewalk. As you stated, you have to make more than one pass. I didn't like not having a guard to keep it from scraping my sidewalk or curb, but it did okay for what I had don at that moment. Suddenly, it just went dead. No matter how many times I pulled on that cord, it simply would not crank back over again. I have rheumatoid arthritis, so cranking endlessly with a pull cord really does do a number on me very quickly. I thought that maybe I had flooded the thing, so I put it away overnight and thought I'd try again the next morning. Well, darn if it would not crank off today, as well. I was ready to return this beast and ask for my money back, as I was frustrated to the max when it would not crank. However, I decided to watch some videos to see if I was missing something or not before doing that. Glad I saw this one, as I will give the starter fluid in the carb a go tomorrow to see if that saves me from returning it. I have an old edger that was being converted to LPG and the pull cord assembly was removed on it so that I could simply crank it with a modified socket, instead. Like say, I have arthritis, so cranking or pulling on a pull cord is not an easy thing for me to spend my time in doing. I have not disassembled the pull cord attachment on this machine, so I am not sure I can modify it like this or not. I have a special tool that spins when the socket is engaged, so that when the lawn mower motor cranks off, it does not spin my drill out of my hands. I'd love to find a video of someone tearing down the motor to this edger for repairs. That would give me an idea if my previous mod would work on it or not. I sure hop the starter fluid trick works, as I really hate to go through the nonsense of returning this unit. Thanks for your video on this edger.
Wow, awesome feedback!!!
@@ToolReviewZone Well, the starter fluid trick did indeed work at least the first time I tried it. However, after that, no matter how many pulls I did, the beast would simply not crank over and start for me. (Very frustrating). I went ahead and easily made the mod I had mentioned and that worked perfectly for ending all the hand pulling on that cord, but still this beast was refusing to start up for me. I put the choke into every possible position with no positive effect. I got a spark tester and had plenty of spark from the sparkplug. It had a half tank of new fuel, so that was not contaminated. I used the starter fluid trick to no avail, so far. I checked the carb for any stopped up areas, but didn't find any which showed. I ended up; removing the carb and purchased a brand new one to replace it. The machine had 2 different gaskets at the carb. Well one gasket at the carb and one that I found laying on the frame below the carb area. (Not sure what that was all about). Any rate, I am waiting on the weather to change a bit before I install the new carb. I have checked the gas lines and found them to be open. Not for certain just what the problem actually is at this point. My machine did not have to be assembled by me, as the Home Depot had them all done up and on display. I asked if they still had one in the box when I purchased it, but the worker there said this was the way they had come in from the factory. (I found that hard to believe). Any rate, I don't intend to return the beast, but am determined to find out just what the issue is and deal with it. I don't have a compression gauge to use and that may be a problem right there, but I do plan on keeping on with trying to figure just what is keeping my beast from running. When it did run before, it did indeed work great for me at the time. Without a primer bulb, this machine simply is lacking in my own opinion. I can't seem to find any videos on just how to install one on this machine, but the factory sure is missing the boat by not having such already. The reviews all seem to blast this machine as to not having such and being difficult to start. Like say, once it gets warmer weather that is not killing my arthritis as much, I'll slog on more in trying to repair this beast and get it back to running correctly. I'd love to find out the proper amount of gaskets and where they are located in hooking back the new carb, but the manuals don't really show that, as far as I know. Thanks for the video. It helps.
Thank you for taking the time to do a video!!! Great explanation!!! Can’t wait to use mine!!!
Thanks for the comment Erin!
Just bought this same model. It is woefully underpowered. Great design other than the engine and a lack of a throttle. It's going back to Home Repo.
THANK YOU! This is SO helpful. We’ve had one for a decade, but we haven’t used it much-and I needed help getting back into it.
Awesome It helped Janet!!!
Mine took quite a few pulls right out of the box. Once started, I let it run for a few minutes and shut it down. Started pulling a minute later and it took about 6 pulls to start after warming it up. Also, it dies if I don't keep the choke lever about a quarter of the way up. However, once it's running it works great! Just like you said.
Yeah, it's a pain really. Never even took it out this year because of that. Thanks for the comment bro
wow. 3 hrs to start?! I got it started on the 2nd pull. You are right, its built very well. My gripe is the curb hop wheel. When I set the curb wheel the front wheel was hovering. So i found myself pushing and trying to keep it level at same time. If the front wheel went down it would be fine. All in all an excellent and may add a BEAUTIFUL looking edger with it's general lee orange color. 😀
Yeah, I wish I could get it started cause it really does do a good job lol
Thanks for the video. My 12 year old Craftsman didn't die but all last season it was running poorly. I was just hoping to nurse it through the season so I could possible find a good deal on a used edger during the off-season.
However I never did find anyone selling one that I thought was worth my money.
Well yesterday morning I took out the old Craftsman, did pre-season service on it and even though I got it started it ran just as is it did last season which was awful.
So I started searching for a replacement.
I searched Lowes, Home Depot, Menards, Sears, and Ace Hardware.
I found three levels of gas edgers; the Murray "baby" that more than one store had under different brands names for around $200, the Murray "poppa" for around $300 then the Powermate which I believe is a Coleman product at Home Depot for $224.
After watching your video I decided that the middle was the best place for me so I got the Powermate.
The Powermate is similar to my 12 year old Craftsman.
Anyway, got it home, put it together and after 30 minutes of edging I think I made the right decision.
Again thanks to for the video.
I have an older one and it starts perfectly!
thanks excellent info I just bought one on craigslist for $100 the couple said they used it once last year and it showed it looked new I got it home and pulled my arm off and it finally started thinking I was doing something wrong I looked here glad to know it wasn't me sad to know I got to go through this every time I use it
Yeah, I dont even use it anymore fitz
Don't expect any gas engine to start easily on 2 to 4 week old gas, let alone months old; dump your fuel and run your engine till it stops before you lay it up. You might also want to make sure that your spark plug is cleaned and gapped. Since you have let old gas sit in the carburetor, you might also want to clean it. I work on a lot of small engines and these are the basics. Also, I prefer the choke because it is a more reliable way to set the air/ fuel mixture - the cheaper machines use the bulb.
Hey Ken, yeah it was new gas. It did the same thing when it was new out of the box. Thanks for the comment bro
repeating myself but it's better to use stabilized ethanol free gas.
I may have to try it. Shame that it is so hard to start even when new. Never had an issue like this before
Just got one of these and this video was super helpful! This should be the official video for this product! Nice work!
Hi will,
Thanks so much for the great comment. I'm happy this helped!
Pull air cleaner and prime with starting fluid. Instant success.
Lol, yeah that's what I have been doing. Should invest in starter fluid stock bud
Home depo has better replacement blades then what comes with unit
Just pulled mine out today for the first time this year and have been trying to get it started for half the day! My arm is worn out.
It's a nightmare right bro
Starting fluid helps when it was stored for a long period of time.
Very informative
Hey thanks for the info. I have the same machine and I love it. I did notice when you were trying to start it you were pulling the cord away from the right side handle. You have to pull it almost right up against the right handle. Mine usually start with two pulls. Hope this helps.
I totally agree with everyone saying it's hard to start. Mine don't start no more but when it did,I would have to have t he choke on pull 3x and switch the choke to off really fast or it would die.
They actually updated his model. The new one starts perfect every singtime. The older model like this was a real pain. I have an updated video on this
Thank you for the review 👍
Put demo how to change blade please
Well I guess I'm not the only one. Out of the box mine started perfectly. Now not so much. I found the choke on this thing sucks, if I force the carb open it starts on the first pull. I'm thinking of adding a linkage between the choke lever and the carb to force it open and see if that works better.
Hard starting problem may be you are not using 5w/30 oil in the crankcase
I have a brand new one can’t start it yet even tried carb cleaner will try again tomorrow .hard to start
How to change the blade
"Once you get it going" not a good sales pitch. I'm on my 3rd Troy Bilt. The first one wore out after 14 years, 2nd one my daughter borrowed. Haven't seen it since. I bought the 3rd one early spring 14. It also has a curb jumper. To set it all I have to do is step down on a handle by the right rear tire. The only problem I've had with it is the thru rod that is pushed when I change the belt got packed off with dirt and would not move. A couple of minutes with the pressure washer and I was back in business.
Good video presentation. I have one works well when you get it started. Having a big problem starting up now, need help.
Trying to decide between this edger from HomeDepot or the same type from Lowes. Both are priced the same. Thanks for your video!
Had a friend that had the same starting problems with a new lawn mower even after using additives for winter storage. He switched to a different gas station and the mower starts every time now on 2nd or 3rd pull.
Hey Pinoy,
Thanks so much for the comment. Yeah, I have actually tried different stations, but still have the same issue. I have read other reviews that mentioned the same problem, so not sure of what the problem may be.
That being said, this is a beast once you get it going. Can I ask you what the other brand is?
The other one I'm looking at is a Troy-Bilt TB516 EC 29-cc 4-Cycle 9-in Gas Lawn Edger for the same price at Lowes, but I think I'm leaning towards the Powermate from HomeDepot. Out of stock at my store but they have one at another store 35 miles away.
After looking at some of the other reviews and spec of the troy, I would say go with the powermate as well. Way more options while cutting, and never boggs down after you get it started
Pinoy Teeguh I have to agree, my elderly father bought the Troy Bilt 29cc edger yesterday but after he told me my brother and I looked at reviews and videos and decided that he would be better off taking it back and getting the Powermate so that is what he did. He had to order it so it should be in the store soon but now I'm worried about him having starting issues! I'm gonna research on adding some kind of priming for this or maybe look into making a drill starter for it....I don't know yet but I'm going to see what I can find out to do because he doesn't need something that's going to be a pain to start but as far as the other features and build quality for the $ I think it's hard to beat!
+Jeff Stone agreed. Let me know if you have the same issue or not. Hope it works well
Just to add, use ethanol free gas. It sold at Home Depot $13 per gallon. (you have to buy eight 32 oz. cans to get that price)
I was able to find gas station that sell pre-obama gas but its 20 miles away for $5 per gallon.
Side note: had carburetor leak that went away on it's own. I know strange. It leaked around top seal. After seating for week, (I called Powermate and they told me to drive 1 hour one way to repair place). Just for kicks, I added gas and it did not leak and started right up...
Did anybody experience anything like that?
Good review....primer bulb would be nice but you can do the same thing by just getting an empty spray can like carb cleaner or starter fluid..fill it with gasoline and just spray prime it....also pull it harder and all the way back....i think the issue may actually have something to do with the recoil starter...when I pull start mine I noticed I have to pull very far back before it stops....if I was 7ft 6 it would be alright
Hey mack. Yeah I should buy stock in starting fluid because of this. The main issue with this though is that you need to remove the air filter every time you need to use it. Thanks for the comment buddy
Tool Review Zone yeah that is true man you're right...try pulling farther though see if that helps...kind of pull and spin back and pull as far as you can....you can really get that flywheel spinning and maybe thats the issue...choke is good design for a bigger engine but not with a small 79cc...
macknumber9 Yeah I'll try that bro. Almost dislocated my shoulder one day o this damn thing lol. It's a shame too as it works really good once started
Tool Review Zone yeah I just bought one for 40 bux cuz the owner couldn't get it to start...so I sprayed carb cleaner and tried and was like damn it's not starting after 4 hard pulls then finally it ran for a second on that carb cleaner verifying the fuel delivery problem....but for a minute I was like this may be spark or compression seeing how it wasn't starting up
Hard start? I cleaned out the float valve, started 2nd pull. Other problems I had were surging and leaking fuel. Both fixed after.
I have to use a little starter fluid (a bit of which is sprayed into the air intake) when it is hard to start because of a cold night. Then it starts on the first pull. When it is warm at night, I find the unit always seems to start on the third pull without using any fluid.
Mine starts well on choke. Runs for a minute then stops. If I leave it alone for a few minutes, can start again. Same issue. Using ethanol free gas. Any ideas on the issue? Thanks,
I actually got rid of this buddy. It was driving me nuts and did not want to deal with it anymore. There other tools are awesome, this one not so much
The gas filter came off and there is no direction on how to place it. It is located within the gas tank. Help me if you can!
Great video, thanks!
Cool, thanks bro soild information.
You got it Blue 👊
No you not the only one, mine takes forever to start as well
Drives me crazy bro
Same issue, pull the carb, clean the float valve, started 2nd pull after.
Problem is though that this was brand new out of the box and had this issue
Has anyone tried changing the blade i am having trouble
How about using for tree rings?
besides "hard to start" my "puller" has detached from the starter twice.
The voice makes this seem like an ad from the Fifties.
I have the exact model and mine siezed up it ha cc plenty u of oil
Have u upgraded to another one? Or still using this one? Nice review
Thanks ondaslab. Check out the newer video I dod for the powermate multi function trimmer and attachments. It blows this one away
My belt snapped.How do you change belt ??
2 star! Engine is bunk! People buy a walk behind to make the job easier! Engine is weak! Who wants to pull a cord 40 times to keep a $200+ machine running? Fought it for an hour, got about 6ft edged, then ran the gas dry for a speedy return to store! I repeat product is bunk!
If you left gas in it for that long without a fuel additive it will need a new carburetor for about $13.00.
Yeah but it did this right out of the box. I've recently reviewed other tools from them and they are absolutely amazing. This...not so much
Is there a primer bulb way down low below the sparkplug?
No, nothing on this unit
Adjust the valves , then it will start easy !🍀🍀🍀🍀
Thanks Dakota, I will try that
I think you got a lemon, mine starts 2nd pull every time
Very possible Reid
I have had one for about a year and it is bitch to get it started. Opened up the carb and found green algae. Will try to get the carb cleaned.
Mine will not start after 2 months
No, it's not just your machine that's hard to start. My Powermate never started even after calling tech support and putting in the expensive small engine fuel. Never ever tried to start. I had to return it. Avoid this machine if you want to avoid a major hassle.
I took my Powermate to ACE hardware in Calallen Tx to fix my leaking carburetor and it worked twice and the new carburetor started leaking gas again. Of course ACE wouldn’t fix their lousy job.
Take a look at how to rebuild your carburetor it needs cleaning you will see a difference
Yeah, bad sad this is Clayton that this was an out of a box, new edger. Did not even take it out this year
What type of gas for this edger ?
Just regular unleaded
This machine looks annoying, I could see myself picking it up and smashing it into the ground with all of my other lawn equipment that never starts
I would not recommend or buy anything from this manufacturer again. The machine works really well if you can get it started. I've spent 2-3 hours some days to try to get it started just to put it back in the shed frustrated. It's not worth the trouble it takes to start this machine. Thumbs down and I give it zero stars. I've owned this machine 3 years and maybe only used it 10 times if that. Can never get it started.
I'm not the manufacturer, I just reviewed the tool and have the same issue you just mentioned
This same machine is manufactured in china for MAT Engine Technologies they sell the same thing under 4 labels Powermate, southland Air stream and Homelite. For the MONEY it is good, long term it's very sloppy and poorly made.
First please try to buy new and good quality of carburetor when you had start problem
Never ever buy very cheaper carburetor because after installed cheaper one that you will get huge leak gas from china carburetor your gas tank that easy to make an empty
I bought cheap carburetor for many times and all cheaper carburetor has same problem. I know that still made in china carburetor so try to buy a good one.
And try to keep original carburetor when you bought this unit and try to clean fix it.
Anyhow cheaper price is always bring poor and shortife this unit
Please do not wasting money!!!!
This is the worst edger I have owned ... please don’t buy this edger it’s real hard to start and I mean rREAL HARD TO START!
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Powermate edger is worst yard equipment I ever bought!
It simple DOES NOT START! Guys do yourself a favor - never buy this piece of junk!
> it's all metal
> There are plastic parts
Pick one American