I get teary looking at this sweet old lady. I miss my grand and her sister in law so much. They brought me up like their own and I entirely credit my life to them.
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no one else notice that the "trick or treat" card reads either trick one way and when it's turned upside down it reads treat? Looks like the trick has been on all of you...
+J Bay they are called ambigrams, in this case used to determine the outcome of what is made to believe a 'free choice'. you really think derren would subject a sweet little 75 year old lady to a trick like the 'killing the cat' episode or 'waking up to find you were dead' show?! come on get real
"A week from now, we're going to enter you... ...in a poker game with some world-class poker players." Terrible place to pause. I must admit I laughed.
+Staminist This is why I think second place was perfect for the situation. The experience served as a lesson in confidence and skill, but also provided a reminder that there's always a bit of luck involved.
was meant to be a joke. In poker you win $ by getting people to make donkey calls but sometimes it back fired. Like the time i got pocket 3s vs pocket Jacks, flops 3, 10, 7; got the guy to push all in and the turn comes a J. I lost $50.
ha ha so true lol but he did say he can't guarantee what cards fall. she read him well and made great call unfortunately some people play like idiots and still hit a two outer.
+Loc Trang (lock2701) Cool story bro... However you should know that calling an all in w JJ on a flop of undercards is not a donkey call. He had an overpair, made the right call and got lucky. The mere mention of the petty amount of money you lost in the hand makes me thing that you are way out of your financial depth on such small stakes. Maybe you should scale back and play the microstakes. Furthermore, we all have a badbeat story; why did you feel the need to annoy us with one more?
EricSmyth14 True, but calling off with an under pair on an ace high flop is usually a bad play. Especially to an amateur all in. The shocking part is the 9 ball on the turn, didn't see that coming.
The real skill here is Derren's commentary, influencing how we view what's going on. Notice that on the lucky draws "she read his bluff correctly" and it's her skills winning, and on the unlucky draw "it was just bad luck".
+Kabitu1 Im playing a lot of poker and watch a lot of poker. I understand that it might seem that way, but she really read those players damn well and the hand she lost was bad luck. With a pair of 99s in your hand the chance that another 9 hits is about 10% of the time. This means that on the Flop 8 A 8 she has a ~90% chance to win with the Ace she has.
+Mark Wintrich The odds are closer to 8% to hit the the 3rd 9, closer to 8% on the turn and 4% on the river if the turn was a blank. She made the right call pushing all in any poker player that says overwise I have no words for
+Kabitu1 It is more likely that he has influenced us by selecting the hands she played best. Perhaps she is just a calling station and these guys suck. The whole thing is just not clear enough for any judgement.
netfischer What I mean is, if that card had come out in her favor, I'll bet my balls Derren would've been all "amazingly she made the right call, and wins the pot", no mention of luck or chance.
+Mike D. Yeah I wouldn't trust any of his explanations unless he'd enter a couple big tournaments. If he'd really have such a big edge, he should get good results.
+Echo Ellis I'm pretty sure Derren is banned in a few major casinos for his memorisation techniques. So even if he wanted to play he wouldn't be able to. And I'm pretty sure he's also making big bucks being a extremely good mentalist with a TV show and all. Life is not all about money anyways! And "tells" make up a lot of your calculation, you really have to read your opponent hand more than your own. That's what differentiates an amateur and a pro! A lot of pros sometimes call All-ins based on tells or feelings that they are being bluffed
+Ham absoloutely i'm sure he doesen't need the money but imagine how much fun it would be as a mentalist to play live poker? Also there's a big difference between reading live physical tells (a small part of poker) and reading someones hand based on betting patterns, how they've previously been betting, the line they've taken etc - that is the part that takes years to perfect and experience is key, proffessional players bluff far less than you'd think.
Aidan Ellis Physical tells are equally important to tells based on their hands, that's what really makes or breaks a poker player. Many NLHE players do not know simple verbal tells and many raise with moderate hands trying to hit on the pot. For the bluff part it depends on player's play style I guess. A glass cannon is sure to bluff much more like martinez
You don’t know what the blinds were and it’s 3 handed, and we don’t know what his position. It could of been the right play. Normally 3 handed k9s is a raising hand and since she is a novice she played it differently than most poker players would
I can't believe she managed to make the call on the first hand with only the gutshot and 2nd nut flush draw! Derren must have really taught her how to read live tells!
FuckYouGooglePlus damn how many times are you gunna bitch about him under other people’s comments? I‘m a believer in skepticism and I think it’s good of you to question what you’re watching and scrutinize the tricks you don’t understand but you’ve made like four comments under this video alone. Get a life already. Leave a dislike and gtfo. Obviously you interpret anything you can’t 100% wrap your tiny brain around as fake so it’s not surprising how upset you seem after watching this.
91 minute 6-man tournament with a total of 41 hands?!?! LMAO My goldfish has a chance of winning. Did they start with 20 big blinds with 5 minute levels?
They both also say trick upside down. So Derren can ultimately choose whether to give trick or treat. These kinds of stylised fonts are called "Rotational Ambigrams" for anyone wondering. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambigram
@BARNES_X23 ASMR THAT argument is dumb. "Knowing ranges" will depend entirely on who you're playing against and what the exact situation is, and these things are extremely fluid and dynamic and all anyone can do is make educated guesses. So saying every pro has "similar knowledge" is really nonsense because that assumes they're all equally good at making those educated guesses and making the best decisions given the exact situation they're in, and that's obviously not the case. Plus, pros give off far less tells because most (especially the internet wizards) are always thinking analytically rather than emotionally. It's also telling that most of the top pros today were those that started online and dominated there, learning stuff like ranges and math where tells are useless, and have made easy transfers into dominating live games. Meanwhile, many of the pros of old who relied on "reading players" are not good online players.
@BARNES_X23 ASMR You said: "People who know ranges are up against other people with similar knowledge," and nowhere in that did you include any exceptions. In any cases, tells are only reliable if players are reliably giving them off, and most players don't. Even with bad players tells can be extremely unpredictable. The problem is that a lot of tells are actually about certain psychological conditions that can apply to a wide range of hands both good and bad. EG, excitement can be felt both when bluffing and when holding monster, or uncertainty felt in any situation where one isn't sure what to do regardless of the strength of their hand. The time/effort it takes to study tells would almost always be better spent studying/adjusting ranges. Of course, if you can do both, then do both.
@BARNES_X23 ASMR You gain an edge against other regs by being better at estimating hand ranges and performing EV calculations. It's that simple. Poker is complex enough that even though both of you might know the basics, you can be better at making adjustments given the specific situation you're in. According to you, there would be no way for some regs to be better than other regs online, but that's clearly not the case.
lol. In order to do that, I'm pretty sure you would have to get Derren to give you the footage left on the cutting room floor. As that is most definitely the only place it ever aired!
3:34 She's already bluffing you. She's probably a Bridge fiend who keeps her local club under the dominion of her iron fist. Once upon a time at a Magic: the Gathering pre-release tournament I almost got my ass kicked by a grandmother in her 70's. After we played I asked her how she got into Magic. She was a lifelong Bridge enthusiast who noticed her grandson playing this weird card game. She asked him about it, and he taught her how it worked, and she became obsessed. She was amazing; I was damn lucky to win. Someone with decades of experience at high-level Bridge play would probably fall into poker almost naturally.
3:25 don’t call me Mr Brown, Sir will be fine! 😂 Also when everyone left the bus Ann’s reaction to potentially being murdered reminded me of the woman from Beadles About who when faced with an alien landing in her garden said, “do you want a cup of tea?”
This is totally B.S the whole thing. For example, 11:45, it talks about her learning a tell and using that to get a good read. She has the second nut flush draw, her calling is just taking the risk, no way she can read he was on a draw.
+Robert C. Christian What about the fact that was pointed out that there is no info about this tournament anywhere, suggesting it was a fake set up? Just asking because you seem to be the main one defending the legitimacy of this bit.
Robert C. Christian Ok, fair enough. I don't know much about poker at all. I agree that Darren is more honest than most magicians but these are still tricks, he may have taught her a method to win, but i think he is misleading the audience to make it appear he is teaching her a very advanced almost supernatural face reading technique but it's probably some boring math based technique shes really learning.
Robert C. Christian It was more sarcasm than a question, I understand the idea of mtt and sng structures. Yea it is most def a turbo which is a poor choice of a game to pick to determine if this worked or not considering high variance but I suppose that gives her a slight better edge. If they played a cash game she wouldn't stand a chance.
+Effendi Chivers As far as my 10 minutes of Googling goes, there was never a poker tournament called Bluff Europe Poker Challenge. Looked up Jeff Duvall's poker game history, no mention of Bluff Europe or Poker Challenge. I strongly suggest these (what I suspect to be mediocre) professional poker players were hired as stooges.
Nik Persaud and Neil Channing are definitely real poker pros, so I assume the others are too. You could say you're a tennis pro, but if you're not in the top 100, who would have heard of you?
I know 4 of those poker players from various poker TV shows , they are not super famous but they are professional poker players . One of them wrote a good book on poker . Also i will point out some of the world richest and best poker players are not well known at all.
These so called high poker pros, forgot the most basic in element in poker: You don't beat an amateur by bluffing him or making trick plays, you beat him or in this case a nice elderly lady, you beat her, with basic poker fundamentals
@@jonathanhenderson9422, You said, "The problem is the tournament wasn't structured to allow that strategy to work", …..sorry but that doesn't make any sense. There was 5 Poker pros playing vs at best, a novice poker player and she outlasted all of them. IT wasn't the structure , it was the fault of the pros not making adjustments.
@@LEFTaTIP She outlasted them by chance because the structure largely negated the skill gap and forced them to take risks. For skill to consistently beat luck in poker you need time and a healthy blind-to-stack size ratio and neither was present here. Start this tourney with 300 big blinds and make the levels 2 hours and then they could've beaten her with fundamentals easily. 40 big blinds and 90 minutes for an entire tournament... might as well roll dice to determine the winner. Hell, it's easy to go 90 minutes without seeing a single premium hand. The only real strategy here is to take shots and hope you get lucky.
+Tristan Taffs the cards have both trick and treat on them, if you rotate them 180 degrees, you get the other, he decides whether thy get trick or treat or not
its all rigged, he was gonna do treat anyways, if u watch the other video, u see that the cards are the same, but rotated 180 degrees, so either one can say the same thing, but nice to do treat to an old lady
I am pretty surprised by all the comments here, thought most people should be able to tell that this whole show is scripted. The poker theory they are talking about doesn't apply in real world poker, and the poker game doesn't make any sense if you actually know how to play poker.
+KillEveryoneKillPhil haha, I have this feeling form the start when they hired all the actors on that bus. In reality, if the bus is going a different route, this old lady should notice, and when the bus parked at a strange place with all the lights off, the old lady should freak out. However she acted like nothing happened, not even a change of facial expression. If it's poker, then I have to say that's a bad bluff.lol Then it comes to the poker training part.One person is reading out all the cards, and they are guessing which card that person has as well as the suit of that card. This part actually made me laugh so hard. Not a person without superpower can pull this off. If they just guess the card, that's acceptable, but the suit of the card? And I'll leave no comment for the poker game. It goes the way exactly where I expected, as ridiculous as the previous script. I guess I played too much poker, and I pick up tells on everything. lol.
+br0dskalk When you see a 3-year-old goof around with a basketball, would you believe if I say he plays for the NBA league? Of course not, because he can barely dribble the ball! That's how the poker game goes in this video.
+Xiao Zhu I've seen magic tricks in which a person guesses what card is the volunteer thinking within a single try. And I myself have guessed entire phone numbers with only two attemps for each number. Sometimes I played games like that with my sister when I was a child.
+Xiao Zhu I got called up on one of Derren's live shows and he guessed 3 times in a row a film I was thinking of. I'm inclined to believe it is possible to read signals on people judged on that.
I love pretty much all of Derren's work and i will still enjoy most of his conten, he is really clever and amaze me all the things he does, but in this topic i have enough knowledge winning online for several years and playing live to tell that all of this was pretty much bs. You can't win in poker just by reading tells on people, you need concepts of the game itself to have some edge on the average player, also the guys she faced , were, what we called fishes, just because you have won some couple of grands doesn't make you profesional, the plays that they made against anne are not profesional moves cause against a a fish( or someone new in the game) you don't play that loose, anyways...there's so much unaccurate stuff about poker that derren and the program shows that it's not worth to tell all of them.
Wait. Six pro's play a tournament for " over NINETY ONE MINUTES " . .. The whole thing seems very suspect, 1) hijack an old lady's bus to drive her to the middle of nowhere to tell her she has been selected. 2) teach her the rules. 3) she goes home and crushes. 4) on the last day teach her how to spot bluffs. 5) 6 pro's play a sng for hardly an hour culminating in the top dog calling with 9's on an A88 flop.... We don't know stack sizes or level times I agree, but overall I just don't buy it, he is a professional at exploiting human psychology though (or pretends to be trying to claim that that isn't what he is doing so we would assume we are smart by deducing that it is, however the real trick here is a dedicated team working behind the scenes to create content which is designed to fool anybody who doesn't care to consider that what they are seeing might not be what they believe they are seeing) Wow what a mouthful.
I thought the premise of the show was interesting. Unfortunately I don't think the producers of the show thought it was interesting and they decided to fake stuff. I agree the poker game didn't seem real. Certainly we learned nothing about her betting strategy in the course of the video. I thought the whole magically figure out what cards her opponents had seemed stupid. I'll tell you what. Let's do an experiment and let her try her skills at card reading against real card players in an independent test. Writing this has made me annoyed enough I'm going to down vote the video. I thought the old lady was great though. I would like to see her play in a genuine poker game.
All the people calling this "fake" and "BS" -- Derren is an entertainer. He creates appearances for people in order to entertain them. Of _course_ not everything on the show is as it's represented -- he's creating an appearance for a TV audience in order to entertain them. Yes, it's embellished. So what?
Derren is a mentalist, this includes many things like hypnosis and magic, he should be a great hypnotist, but idk if he knows hypnotherapy... I'm also a hypnotist, but I don't want to go to hypnotherapy
Now, three years later Anne is in rehab for a crippling gambling addiction after she bet her husband and a horse she didn't own on a mob game in Atlanta...
What a load of absolute BOLLOCKS! 11:05 She has the 2nd nut flush draw, a gutshot straight draw, and an overcard... in what amounts to a Turbo SNG. It barely matters what he has (and he is semi-bluffing with a flush draw... it's not a pure bluff )
love how both cards are exactly the same, they just read differently depending on what way up they are so Derren decides whether he wants to mess with them or not ahahaha
Massive respect for the guy at the end to admit it was luck that he won
That old lady must have thought she was going to be murdered when everyone ran away
Great response though: "Oh dear"
"Stay where you are." Whaaat the fuuuuuck
That "oh dear" made my night, poor lady barely made it!
IKR? I thought that was kinda mean. I hope they didn't let her sit there for more than a few seconds before Derren came downstairs.
She did look rather like she was out of her comfort zone...
I get teary looking at this sweet old lady. I miss my grand and her sister in law so much. They brought me up like their own and I entirely credit my life to them.
I'm 2 minutes in and I just have to say, Derren's way with the elderly is just lovely. Not condescending, not over-sincere, just kind and humorous.
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Shake away
😂
@@perryoparsonneseatingjuicy8738 😂
@@perryoparsonneseatingjuicy8738 that was a violation
What a sweetheart she is. This is one of my favourite things Derren has done.
no one else notice that the "trick or treat" card reads either trick one way and when it's turned upside down it reads treat? Looks like the trick has been on all of you...
@2:43
+J Bay yeah i noticed that, I think in season two (or maybe just later episodes, i don't remember) they started using cards that weren't the same
+LoggyK I have the DVD collection and he exposes that himself in one of the last experiments.
+J Bay There is many way for doing that, it is for sure he controlled the "game" XD. Thanks for pointing it out.
+J Bay they are called ambigrams, in this case used to determine the outcome of what is made to believe a 'free choice'. you really think derren would subject a sweet little 75 year old lady to a trick like the 'killing the cat' episode or 'waking up to find you were dead' show?! come on get real
Aww, he made both the cards treat, the card can be flipped over and say the opposite. He made them both treat not trick! Bless her.
Carey
lol Clever but sick
Ambigram, I'm so glad someone else saw it, which means Derron had already decided to treat the lady 👍
The way the old lady was able to sort the low from high cards was out of this world.
ah Anne is so cute.
I know she is adorable
When she says oh dear at the start I began to well up I screamed noooooo
Jamie Caldwell, I know what you mean! hahahaha. She's such a SWEET and ADORABLE lady that no one want's anything bad to happen to her! LOL.
Every elderly woman are lovely
When Derren says 'don't call me mr brown sirs fine' 😂😆
"A week from now, we're going to enter you...
...in a poker game with some world-class poker players."
Terrible place to pause. I must admit I laughed.
LMAO!!
I imagine Darren got the lady hooked on poker now :D
+Staminist And she bet her life savings, and came in last..poor gal.
+Staminist This is why I think second place was perfect for the situation. The experience served as a lesson in confidence and skill, but also provided a reminder that there's always a bit of luck involved.
She's to old to be playing poker anyway
+J_D0g Wiscr4ck i think doyle brunson would disagree with you ;)
der Mann Yeah, one guy will disagree with me
Derron Brown should play a WSOP , see how far he gets.
right. i doubt he would get past the muppet round.
He wouldn't go far. This was ridiculously fake
@@arya6085 How so?
What was fake about it and what so ridiculously fake?
3:23 Kind of cheeky of Darren to tell an old lady to call him "sir". Haha!
Darren forgot to teach Anne how to survive donkey calls.
+Loc Trang (lock2701) Dont have enough information about pre-flop and her play style to make that judgement, but okay.
was meant to be a joke. In poker you win $ by getting people to make donkey calls but sometimes it back fired. Like the time i got pocket 3s vs pocket Jacks, flops 3, 10, 7; got the guy to push all in and the turn comes a J. I lost $50.
ha ha so true lol but he did say he can't guarantee what cards fall. she read him well and made great call unfortunately some people play like idiots and still hit a two outer.
+Loc Trang (lock2701) Cool story bro...
However you should know that calling an all in w JJ on a flop of undercards is not a donkey call. He had an overpair, made the right call and got lucky. The mere mention of the petty amount of money you lost in the hand makes me thing that you are way out of your financial depth on such small stakes. Maybe you should scale back and play the microstakes.
Furthermore, we all have a badbeat story; why did you feel the need to annoy us with one more?
+Loc Trang (lock2701) There is no surviving donkey calls, except not making bluffs that a thinking player would respect.
The "Trick" and "Treat" cards are identical. The words are just flippable.
very sweet that he intentionally chose treat for the kind old lady :>
"Pros"... doing what "Pros" do, you know... going all in with 10-7 off.. Just "Pro" stuff.
+kekagiso they are pro's
+kekagiso I preferred the call with 99 and two outer on the turn
+Tyler Durden 2 pair is hard to beat my friend
EricSmyth14 True, but calling off with an under pair on an ace high flop is usually a bad play. Especially to an amateur all in. The shocking part is the 9 ball on the turn, didn't see that coming.
kekagiso zynga poker: the life
The real skill here is Derren's commentary, influencing how we view what's going on. Notice that on the lucky draws "she read his bluff correctly" and it's her skills winning, and on the unlucky draw "it was just bad luck".
+Kabitu1 Im playing a lot of poker and watch a lot of poker. I understand that it might seem that way, but she really read those players damn well and the hand she lost was bad luck. With a pair of 99s in your hand the chance that another 9 hits is about 10% of the time. This means that on the Flop 8 A 8 she has a ~90% chance to win with the Ace she has.
+Mark Wintrich The odds are closer to 8% to hit the the 3rd 9, closer to 8% on the turn and 4% on the river if the turn was a blank. She made the right call pushing all in any poker player that says overwise I have no words for
+Kabitu1 It is more likely that he has influenced us by selecting the hands she played best. Perhaps she is just a calling station and these guys suck. The whole thing is just not clear enough for any judgement.
+Kabitu1 There might be misdirection going on, but that's not it. Her hand obviously was massively superior with that flop.
netfischer
What I mean is, if that card had come out in her favor, I'll bet my balls Derren would've been all "amazingly she made the right call, and wins the pot", no mention of luck or chance.
Professional poker is based mostly on the correct calculation behind the decisions. The "tells" and "feelings" play only small role in the mix :-)
+Mike D. very true and this takes time, plus if it was that easy to read people Darren would be a poker millionaire instead of hypnotist
+Mike D. Yeah I wouldn't trust any of his explanations unless he'd enter a couple big tournaments. If he'd really have such a big edge, he should get good results.
+Echo Ellis I'm pretty sure Derren is banned in a few major casinos for his memorisation techniques. So even if he wanted to play he wouldn't be able to. And I'm pretty sure he's also making big bucks being a extremely good mentalist with a TV show and all. Life is not all about money anyways!
And "tells" make up a lot of your calculation, you really have to read your opponent hand more than your own. That's what differentiates an amateur and a pro! A lot of pros sometimes call All-ins based on tells or feelings that they are being bluffed
+Ham absoloutely i'm sure he doesen't need the money but imagine how much fun it would be as a mentalist to play live poker? Also there's a big difference between reading live physical tells (a small part of poker) and reading someones hand based on betting patterns, how they've previously been betting, the line they've taken etc - that is the part that takes years to perfect and experience is key, proffessional players bluff far less than you'd think.
Aidan Ellis Physical tells are equally important to tells based on their hands, that's what really makes or breaks a poker player. Many NLHE players do not know simple verbal tells and many raise with moderate hands trying to hit on the pot.
For the bluff part it depends on player's play style I guess. A glass cannon is sure to bluff much more like martinez
she's now a gambling addict
Is this a joke
@@johnkenny6718 no
@@joyfulness9968 any links for this?
Plot twist
But she does like a pizza
You need to understand that everything you do at the poker table conveys information.
you can't be all loosey goosey, having a sandwich.
@@fonzemusic3718 ah we have a man of culture.
Yeah, says who?!?!
@@lyingcat9022 Danial Negrano
It is spelled Danniel Negrenoo
I'm a bit shaky.. That's alright, shake away. xD
This was great to watch! Too bad she got unlucky in the end, but as Derren also says, no matter how good the player, luck still has its say.
"Playing for almost an hour" and only one "Pro" left. One of which, pushes all in with 10 7 off suit pre flop?!
Soooooo fake lol
AJ H Not necessarily, those “pros” have hardly any winnings. They suck.
You don’t know what the blinds were and it’s 3 handed, and we don’t know what his position. It could of been the right play. Normally 3 handed k9s is a raising hand and since she is a novice she played it differently than most poker players would
Channing is a pro player and commentator. Those figures of winnings are not true. Much higher
Ahmet Ali I wouldn’t announce to the government how much money I make playing cards either
@@stanvaksman5651 even a pro wouldn't shove with those cards on a loose cannon. It's fake
10:40 "BIGGEST LOSS: WON'T SAY"
Sold the House, wife and children, A kidney and an eye...
gg
@@carlossaroufim sold the wife and children? lmao
I can't believe she managed to make the call on the first hand with only the gutshot and 2nd nut flush draw! Derren must have really taught her how to read live tells!
FuckYouGooglePlus damn how many times are you gunna bitch about him under other people’s comments? I‘m a believer in skepticism and I think it’s good of you to question what you’re watching and scrutinize the tricks you don’t understand but you’ve made like four comments under this video alone. Get a life already. Leave a dislike and gtfo. Obviously you interpret anything you can’t 100% wrap your tiny brain around as fake so it’s not surprising how upset you seem after watching this.
Wow what a hero call she had a king high flush draw
And a gutshot.
Against top pair she would be a 50:50 flip, and against a worst FD she would be a big favorite.
Great job in turning her into a life time gambler, mate. I have been seeing her playing in the casino I frequented often.
I love that sweet grandma... Just wanna hug her =)
She’s ADORABLE! I love her!!!
I'd like to see her play with Phil Ivey
Anne's book on live reads, called Anne "Tells" All, is set to be published by the end of the year.
91 minute 6-man tournament with a total of 41 hands?!?! LMAO My goldfish has a chance of winning. Did they start with 20 big blinds with 5 minute levels?
40 blinds.
They started with FORTY LOL.
First vid I've watched of the trick or treat, and I figured it out immediately. The trick card upside down says treat.
Maybe it is because I am a total prick, but I would have LOVED to see what they would have done as 'trick' for this old lady XD
you realize it says treat on both cards
They both also say trick upside down. So Derren can ultimately choose whether to give trick or treat. These kinds of stylised fonts are called "Rotational Ambigrams" for anyone wondering.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambigram
it is merely the illusion of choice as this entire show is illusory at heart
Her trick would've been a 50 man bukkake party
He would Leave her on that bus hypnotised
Such a warm-hearted person❤️
Anne's reading abilities are making Negreanu uncomfortable at the table.... easy, Anne, easy.
I love it! Derren Brown! Props to you to pick Ann!
When she said "Oh dear" my heart broke.
Agreed, I asked my wife why someone would do that to an old lady
what a lovely old lady
I can't wait to see the David Tennant episode of Trick or Treat. That would be fun.
...as his character from "Good Omens"?
When she said “oh dear” i just wanted to give her a hug and kiss on the cheek 😂 reminds me of my nan 🙌
anyone who thinks poker is really about reading tells, i want at my table.
Right?? I'd win against all of these people
At best a tell might tip the scales in a close call, but it's vastly less important than math, ranges, position, etc.
@BARNES_X23 ASMR THAT argument is dumb. "Knowing ranges" will depend entirely on who you're playing against and what the exact situation is, and these things are extremely fluid and dynamic and all anyone can do is make educated guesses. So saying every pro has "similar knowledge" is really nonsense because that assumes they're all equally good at making those educated guesses and making the best decisions given the exact situation they're in, and that's obviously not the case. Plus, pros give off far less tells because most (especially the internet wizards) are always thinking analytically rather than emotionally. It's also telling that most of the top pros today were those that started online and dominated there, learning stuff like ranges and math where tells are useless, and have made easy transfers into dominating live games. Meanwhile, many of the pros of old who relied on "reading players" are not good online players.
@BARNES_X23 ASMR You said: "People who know ranges are up against other people with similar knowledge," and nowhere in that did you include any exceptions. In any cases, tells are only reliable if players are reliably giving them off, and most players don't. Even with bad players tells can be extremely unpredictable. The problem is that a lot of tells are actually about certain psychological conditions that can apply to a wide range of hands both good and bad. EG, excitement can be felt both when bluffing and when holding monster, or uncertainty felt in any situation where one isn't sure what to do regardless of the strength of their hand. The time/effort it takes to study tells would almost always be better spent studying/adjusting ranges. Of course, if you can do both, then do both.
@BARNES_X23 ASMR You gain an edge against other regs by being better at estimating hand ranges and performing EV calculations. It's that simple. Poker is complex enough that even though both of you might know the basics, you can be better at making adjustments given the specific situation you're in. According to you, there would be no way for some regs to be better than other regs online, but that's clearly not the case.
I love how you make the COOLEST approaches the people applying to the show!!!!!
Has anyone else seen the full match? Can't seem to find "Bluff Europe Poker Challenge."
Wouldn't mind watching the whole show.
lol. In order to do that, I'm pretty sure you would have to get Derren to give you the footage left on the cutting room floor. As that is most definitely the only place it ever aired!
These are some pros, going all in with T7o
Lol
+Xtraderr It's often correct in a tournament.
+Xtraderr Pro troll
It's actually not a troll ....
Fish Rapist
He is a famous UA-cam Pro, I would know.
"I like a pizza, I do like a pizza!" 😂😂
u look good
@@rasmus7400 Simp
@@lalafirdous5717 What?
Years ago Derren his show was on the Dutch tv.
His show was amazing.
3:34 She's already bluffing you. She's probably a Bridge fiend who keeps her local club under the dominion of her iron fist.
Once upon a time at a Magic: the Gathering pre-release tournament I almost got my ass kicked by a grandmother in her 70's. After we played I asked her how she got into Magic. She was a lifelong Bridge enthusiast who noticed her grandson playing this weird card game. She asked him about it, and he taught her how it worked, and she became obsessed. She was amazing; I was damn lucky to win.
Someone with decades of experience at high-level Bridge play would probably fall into poker almost naturally.
This is one of the best things I've ever seen. So subscribed.
6 player tournament starting with 40 big blinds might as well be Bingo.
Agreed, I am shocked it lasted more than 30 hands.
3:25 don’t call me Mr Brown, Sir will be fine! 😂
Also when everyone left the bus Ann’s reaction to potentially being murdered reminded me of the woman from Beadles About who when faced with an alien landing in her garden said, “do you want a cup of tea?”
YOU LEFT THAT OLD LADY ON A BUS IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE
Right? And when the camera cuts, she's walking alone at night. lol
I seriously hope they actually brought her home.
Her face when she called 5 of Diamonds was the best thing ever~
i love how she just signs that contract without reading it xd
I'm so glad she got a treat!
This is totally B.S the whole thing. For example, 11:45, it talks about her learning a tell and using that to get a good read. She has the second nut flush draw, her calling is just taking the risk, no way she can read he was on a draw.
+Robert C. Christian What about the fact that was pointed out that there is no info about this tournament anywhere, suggesting it was a fake set up? Just asking because you seem to be the main one defending the legitimacy of this bit.
Robert C. Christian
Ok, fair enough. I don't know much about poker at all. I agree that Darren is more honest than most magicians but these are still tricks, he may have taught her a method to win, but i think he is misleading the audience to make it appear he is teaching her a very advanced almost supernatural face reading technique but it's probably some boring math based technique shes really learning.
+Robert C. Christian what game lasts 90mins?
Robert C. Christian It was more sarcasm than a question, I understand the idea of mtt and sng structures. Yea it is most def a turbo which is a poor choice of a game to pick to determine if this worked or not considering high variance but I suppose that gives her a slight better edge. If they played a cash game she wouldn't stand a chance.
Great- amazing, and so funny to see those professionals lose after they thought she would only last 10 mins.
These pros with their biggest wins of 77k are not the best in the country 😂
One of my favourite episodes
If she had picked "Trick" would she have been drawn and quartered?
Derren!! you better stop scaring old people lol
"Hi I'm Darren Brown, and this is my masterclass".
*World ends*
Beast mode twice with K-high-SOOTED. Love it.
lol they are not poker pros, they are donks
+Effendi Chivers As far as my 10 minutes of Googling goes, there was never a poker tournament called Bluff Europe Poker Challenge. Looked up Jeff Duvall's poker game history, no mention of Bluff Europe or Poker Challenge. I strongly suggest these (what I suspect to be mediocre) professional poker players were hired as stooges.
+Mark McGough no you do have bluff magazine though haha, have no were near the money of the top uk pros.
Nik Persaud and Neil Channing are definitely real poker pros, so I assume the others are too. You could say you're a tennis pro, but if you're not in the top 100, who would have heard of you?
Anthony Holden wrote the bloody book on Poker! He's been playing in the WSOP since the 80's, trust me, he's no "donk"!
I know 4 of those poker players from various poker TV shows , they are not super famous but they are professional poker players . One of them wrote a good book on poker . Also i will point out some of the world richest and best poker players are not well known at all.
I love the music. :D And I choose to believe that both cards were Treats. :3
I love how Anthony won't tell us his biggest loss XD
I love Texas hold’em
Trick and Treat cards are ambigrams. Clever.
I love her face when Derren steps off the bus. "What the hell have I done?!"
Anne Chance = Any Chance?
spoiler alert: the Trick and Treat are homologous. You can turn one upside down to say the opposite. Everyone gets a treat regardless of the choice.
These so called high poker pros, forgot the most basic in element in poker: You don't beat an amateur by bluffing him or making trick plays, you beat him or in this case a nice elderly lady, you beat her, with basic poker fundamentals
The problem is the tournament wasn't structured to allow that strategy to work; the pros knew it was a crapshoot where they'd have to take chances.
@@jonathanhenderson9422, You said, "The problem is the tournament wasn't structured to allow that strategy to work", …..sorry but that doesn't make any sense. There was 5 Poker pros playing vs at best, a novice poker player and she outlasted all of them. IT wasn't the structure , it was the fault of the pros not making adjustments.
@@LEFTaTIP She outlasted them by chance because the structure largely negated the skill gap and forced them to take risks. For skill to consistently beat luck in poker you need time and a healthy blind-to-stack size ratio and neither was present here. Start this tourney with 300 big blinds and make the levels 2 hours and then they could've beaten her with fundamentals easily. 40 big blinds and 90 minutes for an entire tournament... might as well roll dice to determine the winner. Hell, it's easy to go 90 minutes without seeing a single premium hand. The only real strategy here is to take shots and hope you get lucky.
Love Derren Brown, much better than Dynamo, Derren Brown isn't arrogant
When she picked the card all i could think is "Please don't give that sweet old woman a trick, you'll give her a heart attack"
+Tristan Taffs the cards have both trick and treat on them, if you rotate them 180 degrees, you get the other, he decides whether thy get trick or treat or not
my right ear devoured this video
"How to give an old lady a heart attack..."
I love how the subjects never realize that the "trick" and "treat" cards are exactly the same 🤣
If he can teach an old lady how to become a poker genius in a week, I assume Derren Brown has won a fortune playing poker.
i love those cards! i've seem them a few times. great way to use your jedi talents.
its all rigged, he was gonna do treat anyways, if u watch the other video, u see that the cards are the same, but rotated 180 degrees, so either one can say the same thing, but nice to do treat to an old lady
no shit buddy
they both say trick they both say treat
+Yhowbyjytub310 maybe cuz he doesnt wanna use his demon magic to fuck this poor old lady up ;)
Yeah.... We all know ambigrams bro.... Dan Brown kinda made them part of the public awareness in angles and demons
then learn how to play the game right at #acepokersolutions
Derren is a master at creating new Framings.
I am pretty surprised by all the comments here, thought most people should be able to tell that this whole show is scripted. The poker theory they are talking about doesn't apply in real world poker, and the poker game doesn't make any sense if you actually know how to play poker.
+KillEveryoneKillPhil haha, I have this feeling form the start when they hired all the actors on that bus. In reality, if the bus is going a different route, this old lady should notice, and when the bus parked at a strange place with all the lights off, the old lady should freak out. However she acted like nothing happened, not even a change of facial expression. If it's poker, then I have to say that's a bad bluff.lol
Then it comes to the poker training part.One person is reading out all the cards, and they are guessing which card that person has as well as the suit of that card. This part actually made me laugh so hard. Not a person without superpower can pull this off. If they just guess the card, that's acceptable, but the suit of the card?
And I'll leave no comment for the poker game. It goes the way exactly where I expected, as ridiculous as the previous script.
I guess I played too much poker, and I pick up tells on everything. lol.
***** Dude, before you write an essay, I suggest you learn some poker concepts. Just basic concepts are enough.
+br0dskalk When you see a 3-year-old goof around with a basketball, would you believe if I say he plays for the NBA league? Of course not, because he can barely dribble the ball!
That's how the poker game goes in this video.
+Xiao Zhu I've seen magic tricks in which a person guesses what card is the volunteer thinking within a single try. And I myself have guessed entire phone numbers with only two attemps for each number. Sometimes I played games like that with my sister when I was a child.
+Xiao Zhu I got called up on one of Derren's live shows and he guessed 3 times in a row a film I was thinking of. I'm inclined to believe it is possible to read signals on people judged on that.
That grandma is so sweet, good, and lovely! Im sure shes polite!
I hope she is very healthy! 🙏🏻🤗😇👋🏻
Julian Rivera a
I love pretty much all of Derren's work and i will still enjoy most of his conten, he is really clever and amaze me all the things he does, but in this topic i have enough knowledge winning online for several years and playing live to tell that all of this was pretty much bs. You can't win in poker just by reading tells on people, you need concepts of the game itself to have some edge on the average player, also the guys she faced , were, what we called fishes, just because you have won some couple of grands doesn't make you profesional, the plays that they made against anne are not profesional moves cause against a a fish( or someone new in the game) you don't play that loose, anyways...there's so much unaccurate stuff about poker that derren and the program shows that it's not worth to tell all of them.
+Cris D lol neil channing and nick persaud are not fish
+Cris D na dude, you are wrong.
Going all in pre flop with a Q high is what all the pros do these days!
LMAO. She goes "im a bit shaky", the guy responds with "it's ok, shake on."
Wait. Six pro's play a tournament for " over NINETY ONE MINUTES " . .. The whole thing seems very suspect, 1) hijack an old lady's bus to drive her to the middle of nowhere to tell her she has been selected. 2) teach her the rules. 3) she goes home and crushes. 4) on the last day teach her how to spot bluffs. 5) 6 pro's play a sng for hardly an hour culminating in the top dog calling with 9's on an A88 flop....
We don't know stack sizes or level times I agree, but overall I just don't buy it, he is a professional at exploiting human psychology though (or pretends to be trying to claim that that isn't what he is doing so we would assume we are smart by deducing that it is, however the real trick here is a dedicated team working behind the scenes to create content which is designed to fool anybody who doesn't care to consider that what they are seeing might not be what they believe they are seeing)
Wow what a mouthful.
Isak van Schalkwyk agreed
I thought the premise of the show was interesting. Unfortunately I don't think the producers of the show thought it was interesting and they decided to fake stuff. I agree the poker game didn't seem real. Certainly we learned nothing about her betting strategy in the course of the video. I thought the whole magically figure out what cards her opponents had seemed stupid. I'll tell you what. Let's do an experiment and let her try her skills at card reading against real card players in an independent test. Writing this has made me annoyed enough I'm going to down vote the video. I thought the old lady was great though. I would like to see her play in a genuine poker game.
I absolutely love Anne; I was so happy to see the treat card revealed
Jack Stone I did have an idea that was probably the plan behind it; since what he was going to do would have been pre planned
This was the fakest poker event ever no one believes this actually happens right ?
Hopefully not poker pro in 2 weeks is just ridiculous
All the people calling this "fake" and "BS" -- Derren is an entertainer. He creates appearances for people in order to entertain them. Of _course_ not everything on the show is as it's represented -- he's creating an appearance for a TV audience in order to entertain them. Yes, it's embellished. So what?
0:47 "oh dear"
I would be interested in an episode where he shares his poker knowledge.
I wish my hypnotherapist was as good as Darren, so far all I've got is a salty mouth.
Ffs Wuji
Derren is a mentalist, this includes many things like hypnosis and magic, he should be a great hypnotist, but idk if he knows hypnotherapy... I'm also a hypnotist, but I don't want to go to hypnotherapy
Thank you Derren!
Now, three years later Anne is in rehab for a crippling gambling addiction after she bet her husband and a horse she didn't own on a mob game in Atlanta...
What a load of absolute BOLLOCKS! 11:05 She has the 2nd nut flush draw, a gutshot straight draw, and an overcard... in what amounts to a Turbo SNG. It barely matters what he has
(and he is semi-bluffing with a flush draw... it's not a pure bluff )
Both cards said both 'Trick' & 'Treat'. Ambigrams.
where can I learn this technique that Derren teaches her ?
both cards are the same. trick is the same as treat written upside down.
so everyone is going to get trick?
it's up to him if he wants to trick or treat the volunteer.
Ha! Didn't realise that. Thanks.
he shows this in one of his videos
derren flips the treat around making both cards trick
Comatose Labotamy no its not
love how both cards are exactly the same, they just read differently depending on what way up they are so Derren decides whether he wants to mess with them or not ahahaha