500 years ago there was no standardized german language, this happened after 1850, so in those old days, dialects had been used also in written german.
Dear God! Don’t pay attention to what they are teaching you! Instead let’s pick apart their pronunciation of modern high German.... from an medieval manuscript! They should simply jump off a bridge!
@@dmandy7968 In a Skallagrim video where they were discussing the women and swords controversy I think (and I could be miss remembering this) she's 5ft 10? And I as a 5ft 8(?) portuguese man think that's just fucking bonkers that a man can be that tall next to her. Don't know what you americans and canadians have in your water.
These videos on the basics are super helpful. I'm just reading the treatises, and seeing the strikes in motion is really making it easier to understand what they're describing.
Great vid guys, my club has pretty much the same interpretations as your guards, though I think I see a difference in meyer clubs as opposed to our Lichtenaur club.
I wish there were some tips and tricks for left handers like me. There seems to be very little videos made on the subject. These technics will be different for me, as well as a righty on a lefty.
@@HEMASimian I actually find that many swords and many moves do not work mixed and don't favor a left handed swordsman specifically when paired against right handed swordsmen. When both are left handed, there's no fault.
@@Tkoutlosh almost all of my longsword exchanges start in zornhau with my dominant foot forward and end when I cut, raise my quillions and take a half step back
The master's treatises give instructions on how to counter them. A lot of the counters involve duplieren, mutieren, winden, schnappen, zucken, etc. Go check out Ringeck, Dobringer, Von Danzig long sword treatises at Wiktenauer.
Your zwerchhaw could be broken by simple oberhaw (and your thumb on the blade with it) if your timing is bad. And this could easily happen, if you start with your zwerchaw because this cut has shorter reach than oberhaw, so you have to move and reveal your intent before you are able to make some threat to your opponent. Master cuts are good against some guards if you cut them into guard transition. Or as a reaction to specific attack. So if your opponent start with his oberhaw, he will come into the danger zone of your master cut and if you react to it properly in time, you will hit him, or force him to do some desperate parry which you can easily go around with doubling...
i would prefer looking at multiple repetitions of the technique while the explanations are given, instead of 2 ppl not moving. All in all a nice summary of the master strikes. Thank you
In reality, the patient is almost never cooperative. These demos are with a compliant patient, so just replay the demo if needed. Only minor variations are needed if the patient resists more,
The Cold Steel trainers hit like a ton of bricks. Rawlings are too soft and floppy. Purpleheart is the Goldilocks, with a good balance of flex and stiffness.
The Cold Steel trainers hit like a ton of bricks. Rawlings are too soft and floppy. Purpleheart is the Goldilocks, with a good balance of flex and stiffness.
General rule of thumb is if the product came out more than 5-7 years ago, chances are there's better options out there now. (Especially with products that launched around 2010 or the "HEMA Dark Ages" preceding that.)
Something i noted: All of the strikes in this section, aside from the Zornhau, are called "verkehrte Häue" by Mayer - which means something similar to "inverted strikes". So i think that the Krumphau is supposed to be done with the false edge of the sword. Even though Mayer uses the words "Lange Schneide" (= true edge?) in his manuscript, the placement within the book as well as the illustrations indicate that the false edge is more likely correct here.
Long edge (same as true edge) This cut is in Lecküchner's Messer as well and is described to be performed the same way as in this video. Long edge then transition into a thrust or a short edge strike. It is called the Wecker (pronounced vecker) or the Waking strike in Lecküchner's book.
@@dr.birbmd7266 - Well, as i said: Mayer describes it differently, as does Talhoffer apparently. Anyway: Liechtenauer appears to be using the long edge again. So it would appear it is more a question of personal taste... my trainer is trying to be as close to Mayer as possible and we therefore use the short edge.
is unterhau and other cuts brom below master cuts ? are they used in hema sparrings ? I never understand these cuts as they seem practical when i do them alone but never when in a fight
Excellent video! I do have one question. Is there a video as to the various foot positions, how low your body should be, and how to do the steps properly?
The sections closer to the cross-guard and mid-section of the blade are the forte (strongest part) and the end section of the blade is the foible (weakest part). The blade can be further broken down into 4 sections for certain situations, but those two are the main parts to focus on. Avoid parries with the foible and use it for thrusting or light slashes, and use the forte for your forceful slashes, swings, and parries.
The Video shows the techniques quite Well. Did Not know you could use the krumphau of from the Tag or Tag auf der Schulter. I think the Schielhau will also bring my technique a Bit further.
The pronunciations of these cuts are like the names of Lovecraft's Gods. It's spelt one way but pronounced Achglughlbyuck'a-yeh in reality. We can probably only get so close to their actual pronunciations.
The basic cuts, steps, and movements are all bread and butter stuff. It's good to get them down solid before worrying about getting fancy. Everything in it's own time. Good luck on your HEMA journey.
Yeah. The hidden strikes are great and all, but don't rush it. Getting a solid concept and grasp of basic parry risposte isn't to bad before going into the hidden strikes. Especially because it works so good. I had to step back from the more complicated stuff too, because I wanted to do the fancy stuff first. But the back to the basics stuff really changed my sparring a lot. It is just such a good foundation I can trust in.
Guys hi!awesome channel you have there! Congrats!!! Could you be kind enough to post me some links so i can find protection for spar like you do???i locate Athens Greece.european sources preferably. :-)
I'm sorry but all of those cuts make no sense to me. i know next to nothing about swords. but it seems obvious to me that it makes no sense to put your sword on your right shoulder if you have your left leg as your lead leg or vica verse. if an opponent is in opposite stands and he has his sword towards his lead leg on the left if the left foot is forward. right if the right foot is forward, the one with having his sword towards his rear leg is in a disadvantage. all it takes is for person with sword towards their lead leg to step slightly outside and they are not only in better angle but also have less distance to travel. and it makes it for the person who has the sword towards their rear foot difficult to either attack or defend. and even if he was to be to the outside with better angle the best you can hope is to be on equal footing. and if both opponents are square the one which has his sword on the side of his lead leg has an advantage at least when it comes to situation where they are in opposite stands. on the other hand if they both have their swords next to lead leg it doesn't matter who is on the inside or on the outside or what. which basically makes fight basically pointless because both opponents neutralize each other and after very long time the one who wins is simply the one that doesn't tire as much as his opponent. and unlike in the case of rapier or saber or pretty much any other weapon skill almost stops to matter once you and your opponent are in opposite stands with a longsword. there are few techniques that will work but while I can easily do them with my left foot forward I can't do them with my right foot forward. and since most fight with their left foot forward no one is in opposite stance therefore to me those techniques (of which there seems to be very few) don't work for me. but even if both are opponents are in same stance it makes very little sense to me to have your sword on your rear shoulder rather than your lead one.
The dude talks like he has marbles in his mouth and talks too fast. Kept having to replay anytime he spoke. The woman presenter was great. I came here for a review of the masterstrokes, good presentation, did not like the guy presenter here because I had trouble understanding him.
InB4"You're pronouncing these ~500 year old German techniques wrong"
English speaking peoples butchering other languages. What else is new?
Pls do 1 one sabers pls or single handed swords
500 years ago there was no standardized german language, this happened after 1850, so in those old days, dialects had been used also in written german.
Dear God! Don’t pay attention to what they are teaching you! Instead let’s pick apart their pronunciation of modern high German.... from an medieval manuscript! They should simply jump off a bridge!
we pretending germans speak perfect english or something?
Kingdom Come developers: Write that down, write that down!
True
"Noticing a pattern here?"
Yes. If I am right, right to left, so I shall strongly fence.
In before all the people saying "You're doing it wrong! It should be like this."
Dude you're doing the meme wrong! It should be "inb4."
Never stop uploading! This is one of most interesting martial arts.
Ah yes, my favorite cuts. Zone Organ, Sever Cow, and Crumple. Thank you, auto generated youtube chapters.
Sweet Jesus, that guy is tall!
I came here to say that. Anyone know how tall he actually is? Looks like a foot taller than her.
@@dmandy7968 In a Skallagrim video where they were discussing the women and swords controversy I think (and I could be miss remembering this) she's 5ft 10? And I as a 5ft 8(?) portuguese man think that's just fucking bonkers that a man can be that tall next to her. Don't know what you americans and canadians have in your water.
Right? I thought she was tall. Either that guy is huge or she is smaller than I initially thought.
Tyler is indeed a giant. We call him our giant of the north
6'6"
I want to learn this art
Google HEMA club finder. There may be a club near you. Good luck!
@@scottmacgregor3444 There are no HEMA clubs in the MENA region.
@@darklanov there is HMEMA
@@luis5285able As an Arab myself, I've never heard of it. Could you provide a link ?
These videos on the basics are super helpful. I'm just reading the treatises, and seeing the strikes in motion is really making it easier to understand what they're describing.
Great vid guys, my club has pretty much the same interpretations as your guards, though I think I see a difference in meyer clubs as opposed to our Lichtenaur club.
From such a short video u can't simply tell, what their interpretation rly is.
This is a fantastic explanation of techniques . Thank you.
I wish there were some tips and tricks for left handers like me. There seems to be very little videos made on the subject. These technics will be different for me, as well as a righty on a lefty.
It's just mirrored in application, the techniques themselves stay the same
@@HEMASimian I actually find that many swords and many moves do not work mixed and don't favor a left handed swordsman specifically when paired against right handed swordsmen. When both are left handed, there's no fault.
@@DAHSspookyyYyyy Yep, it is no just mirrored at all, and it is difficult topic for righthander to think about lefthanders approach to techniques.
@@Tkoutlosh almost all of my longsword exchanges start in zornhau with my dominant foot forward and end when I cut, raise my quillions and take a half step back
*zornhau ort
Great video, how do I defend against these. Is there a video that explains the best way to counter these rather than stepping back or something?
Depends on the cut but the zwerch can be countered with a zwerch ... if you do yours better
The master's treatises give instructions on how to counter them. A lot of the counters involve duplieren, mutieren, winden, schnappen, zucken, etc. Go check out Ringeck, Dobringer, Von Danzig long sword treatises at Wiktenauer.
Your zwerchhaw could be broken by simple oberhaw (and your thumb on the blade with it) if your timing is bad. And this could easily happen, if you start with your zwerchaw because this cut has shorter reach than oberhaw, so you have to move and reveal your intent before you are able to make some threat to your opponent. Master cuts are good against some guards if you cut them into guard transition. Or as a reaction to specific attack. So if your opponent start with his oberhaw, he will come into the danger zone of your master cut and if you react to it properly in time, you will hit him, or force him to do some desperate parry which you can easily go around with doubling...
there's a similarity between german's and japan's sword art
could you guys make a video about that?
Makes sense both styles priorises cuts over thrusts but both styles does use both.
i would prefer looking at multiple repetitions of the technique while the explanations are given, instead of 2 ppl not moving. All in all a nice summary of the master strikes. Thank you
In reality, the patient is almost never cooperative. These demos are with a compliant patient, so just replay the demo if needed. Only minor variations are needed if the patient resists more,
Can you guys do a review of the Cold Steel polypropylene longsword/hand and a half? I'm really interested to see what you guys think about it.
haha, they're awful. We'd do a review of one but that would involve actually spending the money to get one, which we're not willing to do :P
The Cold Steel trainers hit like a ton of bricks. Rawlings are too soft and floppy. Purpleheart is the Goldilocks, with a good balance of flex and stiffness.
The Cold Steel trainers hit like a ton of bricks. Rawlings are too soft and floppy. Purpleheart is the Goldilocks, with a good balance of flex and stiffness.
@@HEMASimian I've got one and it's fine for solo work as well as sparring...provided the other guy is also using plastic :-P
General rule of thumb is if the product came out more than 5-7 years ago, chances are there's better options out there now. (Especially with products that launched around 2010 or the "HEMA Dark Ages" preceding that.)
what about the secret strikes? blindthaw bellhaw kurtzhaw knuchelhaw glützhaw and windthaw?
Something i noted: All of the strikes in this section, aside from the Zornhau, are called "verkehrte Häue" by Mayer - which means something similar to "inverted strikes".
So i think that the Krumphau is supposed to be done with the false edge of the sword. Even though Mayer uses the words "Lange Schneide" (= true edge?) in his manuscript, the placement within the book as well as the illustrations indicate that the false edge is more likely correct here.
Long edge (same as true edge) This cut is in Lecküchner's Messer as well and is described to be performed the same way as in this video. Long edge then transition into a thrust or a short edge strike. It is called the Wecker (pronounced vecker) or the Waking strike in Lecküchner's book.
@@dr.birbmd7266 - Well, as i said: Mayer describes it differently, as does Talhoffer apparently. Anyway: Liechtenauer appears to be using the long edge again.
So it would appear it is more a question of personal taste... my trainer is trying to be as close to Mayer as possible and we therefore use the short edge.
@@dr.birbmd7266 so true edge on bind then false edge on the step.
I love these techniques!!!
I think the strike on the opponents arms following the Scheitelhau, is called the Knichelhau :-)
Judging from the thumbnail, I sincerely expected to see Scorpion of Mortal Kombat duking it out wirh a German Longsword!
is unterhau and other cuts brom below master cuts ? are they used in hema sparrings ? I never understand these cuts as they seem practical when i do them alone but never when in a fight
Excellent video!
I do have one question. Is there a video as to the various foot positions, how low your body should be, and how to do the steps properly?
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Nice video you guys! I love this technique, it's so op!
A video on the anatomy of these swords and how they are used.
The sections closer to the cross-guard and mid-section of the blade are the forte (strongest part) and the end section of the blade is the foible (weakest part). The blade can be further broken down into 4 sections for certain situations, but those two are the main parts to focus on. Avoid parries with the foible and use it for thrusting or light slashes, and use the forte for your forceful slashes, swings, and parries.
What type/style and period are these types of longsword?
The Video shows the techniques quite Well. Did Not know you could use the krumphau of from the Tag or Tag auf der Schulter. I think the Schielhau will also bring my technique a Bit further.
How do you make sure you don’t break your wrist in the shietelhau?
I think the answer is... you just do, unfortunately :(
Zwerchhau = Across Hit/Cut
Zornhau = Anger Hit/Cut
Scheitelhau = Vertex Hit/Cut
Krumphau = Wrinkeled/Cramp Hit/Cut
Schielhau = Squint Hit/Cut
The pronunciations of these cuts are like the names of Lovecraft's Gods. It's spelt one way but pronounced Achglughlbyuck'a-yeh in reality. We can probably only get so close to their actual pronunciations.
Are all this technieks against asending cuts, aren't there any to protect and cut if your attacked from the side?
yeah, most of them would work to do that as well. These techniques have tons of uses that a 5 minute video can't cover :)
Krumphau is particularly effective for defence against horisontal strikes.
He gots SIGI sword ?
This is where I need to put the hours in. Wonderful techniques but I'm definitely still clunky and not fluid beyond the basic cuts etc
The basic cuts, steps, and movements are all bread and butter stuff. It's good to get them down solid before worrying about getting fancy. Everything in it's own time.
Good luck on your HEMA journey.
Yeah. The hidden strikes are great and all, but don't rush it. Getting a solid concept and grasp of basic parry risposte isn't to bad before going into the hidden strikes.
Especially because it works so good.
I had to step back from the more complicated stuff too, because I wanted to do the fancy stuff first. But the back to the basics stuff really changed my sparring a lot. It is just such a good foundation I can trust in.
Guys hi!awesome channel you have there!
Congrats!!!
Could you be kind enough to post me some links so i can find protection for spar like you do???i locate Athens Greece.european sources preferably. :-)
nice move 👍
greetings from germany
German Sword-Fighting.... was and is V-E-R-Y SHORT an V-E-R-Y DEADLY.....
YAY MORE VIDEOS
3:09 😂
German Sword-Fight: SHORT and DEADLY.....
Nice. I was just searching for video regarding these mastercuts several days ago.
A REAL Sword-Fight was and IS short and DEADLY.....
German Longsword-Fighting in the Middelages was nothing for cowards: Fast, Short and DEADLY....
That guy is strong
And a dweeb at the same time, pretty funny that he can’t shake his true character with discipline and training..🤔
Excellent. Just in time for Coronageddon ;)
bottes? or is that merely fencing?
Bottes are a combination of mouvements, these are too short to be bottes.
Керемет!
I'm sorry but all of those cuts make no sense to me. i know next to nothing about swords. but it seems obvious to me that it makes no sense to put your sword on your right shoulder if you have your left leg as your lead leg or vica verse. if an opponent is in opposite stands and he has his sword towards his lead leg on the left if the left foot is forward. right if the right foot is forward, the one with having his sword towards his rear leg is in a disadvantage. all it takes is for person with sword towards their lead leg to step slightly outside and they are not only in better angle but also have less distance to travel. and it makes it for the person who has the sword towards their rear foot difficult to either attack or defend. and even if he was to be to the outside with better angle the best you can hope is to be on equal footing. and if both opponents are square the one which has his sword on the side of his lead leg has an advantage at least when it comes to situation where they are in opposite stands. on the other hand if they both have their swords next to lead leg it doesn't matter who is on the inside or on the outside or what. which basically makes fight basically pointless because both opponents neutralize each other and after very long time the one who wins is simply the one that doesn't tire as much as his opponent. and unlike in the case of rapier or saber or pretty much any other weapon skill almost stops to matter once you and your opponent are in opposite stands with a longsword. there are few techniques that will work but while I can easily do them with my left foot forward I can't do them with my right foot forward. and since most fight with their left foot forward no one is in opposite stance therefore to me those techniques (of which there seems to be very few) don't work for me. but even if both are opponents are in same stance it makes very little sense to me to have your sword on your rear shoulder rather than your lead one.
FIRST LEARN REGULAR CUTS.... A GERMAN KNIGHT from Medieval makes EASILY SHISHKEBAP of YOU......
Not a fan of the new background music, distracts from the actual dialogue
The dude talks like he has marbles in his mouth and talks too fast. Kept having to replay anytime he spoke. The woman presenter was great. I came here for a review of the masterstrokes, good presentation, did not like the guy presenter here because I had trouble understanding him.
Ye should work on yer German pronunciation...