You don’t need 4K Blu-Ray

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  • @TheCultOfShepard
    @TheCultOfShepard 8 місяців тому +14

    Too much revisionism going on with 4K releases. Just look for how many have a new cold teal colour timing now.

    • @sdjslkdjlsskldjslkdjsl8262
      @sdjslkdjlsskldjslkdjsl8262 Місяць тому

      yeah they look dim and the colors are off. It's kinda strikingly bad

    • @Slask7
      @Slask7 14 днів тому

      teal color gradings were already a thing during blu-ray era.
      Actually several 4K managed to have colors more faithful to the original.
      But it’s still a delicate matter, since so many factors influence colors in movies.

  • @luismaldonado4989
    @luismaldonado4989 8 місяців тому +47

    I appreciate these videos man. I’m glad somebody is emphasizing how personal a collection is. A lot of collectors care about other people’s opinions. They like things based on what others tell them to like.

  • @aqua-technic
    @aqua-technic 8 місяців тому +10

    Excellent vid, you said it so well: it literally does not matter what other people feel about your format of choice, they are not going to be at your house watching it with you. So to hell with their opinion!

  • @Onotosho
    @Onotosho 8 місяців тому +15

    Blu ray is a great format still. Became cheaper thanks to 4k. I love 4k and all. If i see a super cheap blu ray set that costs as much as on 4k. I am grabbing the blu ray collection. Blu ray will still be the backbone to many collections.

  • @TheLWebb100
    @TheLWebb100 8 місяців тому +121

    Blu Ray still looks great, 4k is the cherry on top.

    • @Sammy-34079
      @Sammy-34079 6 місяців тому +2

      nah if u want watch good movies go back to 1080p tv with 1080p blu-ray

    • @GamezGuru1
      @GamezGuru1 6 місяців тому

      @@Sammy-34079 "good movies" are available on all formats

    • @mr.pangetako
      @mr.pangetako 5 місяців тому +10

      Both are good. It’s all depends on the good transfer. Sometimes, a good transferred regular bluray can have better picture quality than 4k uhd.

    • @oldschoolgamer6427
      @oldschoolgamer6427 4 місяці тому +2

      couldn’t have said it better brother

    • @shitpostheavy
      @shitpostheavy 3 місяці тому +1

      Best way to put it

  • @morgankingsley8711
    @morgankingsley8711 8 місяців тому +27

    Blu Ray is perfectly fine for me.

    • @Ocelot35
      @Ocelot35 2 місяці тому +5

      DVD is fine for me. HD will never catch on.

    • @frommatorav1
      @frommatorav1 Місяць тому +1

      @@Ocelot35 HD caught on around 2010. You're a little late to the party.
      On the bleeding edge was 2005-2006. By 2008 HD was quite common. In 2010-2012, the prices for LCD TVs came down a lot and there was major adoption to the HD format.
      4k TVs have been popular since about 2016. Prices dropped in 2018 for 4k but rised in 2021 due to the pandemic chip shortages, and prices are going down again the past couple of years.
      High end 4k TVs are still expensive but not being on the bluray format is kind of silly at this point.

    • @AllardRT
      @AllardRT День тому

      @@frommatorav1 I think it was sarcasm.

  • @pickyourbattlescollecting
    @pickyourbattlescollecting 8 місяців тому +61

    I have a friend who is a snob for UHD 4K, and will tolerate Blu Ray. He has zero love for anything less. I, however, am easily satisfied. If the picture is clear and the sound is good, I am fine. I still have a 1080p TV, and honestly my dvds are just fine for me. I grew up with VHS, so I know what crap really looks like. 😆 I love collecting dvds and Blu Rays because they allow me to build an amazing collection for very little money. I walked out of my local pawn shop the other day with 11 dvds for $9 total. I own only one 4K UHD, Transformers the movie from 1986, only because that film is special to me, and I wanted the steelbook it came in. Collect what you love!

    • @JamieToomeyPresents
      @JamieToomeyPresents  8 місяців тому +13

      11 DVDs for $9 is an awesome deal

    • @kiddcapri1711
      @kiddcapri1711 8 місяців тому +2

      Came here to say the exact same thing, but you beat me to it.
      My childhood was in the 80's and early 90's I stomached movies/TV recorded show's that needed tracking adjustments.... I watched stuff that was skewed at the top of the screen. DVD is fine for me, although I do have a few Blu Ray movies.
      The reason I have Blu-ray's is I've effectively future proofed my favorite movies/shows it's also that I got them dirt cheap second hand.
      I'm from the UK... Second hand DVD's can be found at 10 for a £1 and Blu Ray's can be found at 50p-£2 for 1 second hand.
      Side note: Don't get me started on CD's.

    • @RandallStevenson
      @RandallStevenson 8 місяців тому +4

      Then there is so much your friend has volunteered to miss out on, most of the TV shows before the 2010s are only on DVD, a good bit of movies and documentaries and comedy shows never made it past DVD, even the ones that made it to Blu-ray, a great many never made it to 4K.

    • @NightmareLink110
      @NightmareLink110 8 місяців тому +3

      I have a 4K snob friend too. He is always getting on my butt about getting a 4K TV, like dude, just cause you're in love with 4K doesn't mean I have to be, lol. I am fine with Blu-Rays and DVDs as well.

    • @SulphurBorne
      @SulphurBorne 8 місяців тому +2

      I’m the opposite I love Blu-ray and dvd lol

  • @ConFezsi0N
    @ConFezsi0N 8 місяців тому +10

    It's good to adjust you're perception of these formats. We should be happy with any formats there is available to us. 4k can be amazing, but also a well done bluray transfer can be satisfying. Not all movies needs a 4k treatment, but all of them deserve physical media treatment.

  • @ARMediaOfficial
    @ARMediaOfficial 2 місяці тому +7

    Don't NEED it, but god damn is it fun! Really the resolution isn't where it always shines imo, Dolby Vision/HDR is really where it makes up for it on a lot of newer releases. Older films on film look AMAZING of 4K, truly unreal. It's not NEEDED, but it is by far the best way to watch your favorite films

    • @Prettytony0627
      @Prettytony0627 Місяць тому +2

      Exactly!!

    • @Slask7
      @Slask7 14 днів тому

      THIS.
      This is the comment. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @tyleigh4309
    @tyleigh4309 8 місяців тому +69

    The difference isn't enough for me to justify buying a 4k TV, player and discs. I got glasses a couple yrs ago and that made more a difference than picture resolution

    • @supertrexandroidx
      @supertrexandroidx 8 місяців тому +4

      Aside from a good player, most people need a bigger TV, at least 65", and need to sit closer. Most people over a certain age were brought up taught that you should sit a certain distance from the tube because supposedly it was bad for the eyes to sit close, but ideally you probably don't want to sit any further than about 6 feet from a 65" to 75" screen to get the most from the increased resolution. And of course some 4K releases are better than others. ;)

    • @jordyhitty
      @jordyhitty 8 місяців тому +4

      When you have 2020 vision it's easier to see the difference

    • @nunoborgesdias6332
      @nunoborgesdias6332 2 місяці тому +2

      because you don't care. But the difference is some transfers is massive and the experience great

    • @Michelle-s2z6l
      @Michelle-s2z6l Місяць тому

      Ive found the sharper the image, the less i like it, its like discovery, theres little fuzzyness so the picture doesn't look as good,it feels manufactured more than older shows. I nly got Blu-ray because i noticed more blu ray have special features than new dvds.

    • @Michelle-s2z6l
      @Michelle-s2z6l Місяць тому

      ​@@jordyhitty bigger screen too

  • @awesomereviews1561
    @awesomereviews1561 6 місяців тому +6

    Depends on your TV. If you have a normal HD TV it’s fine. But if you have a good massive 4K TV, 1080p doesn’t cut it anymore, then you can see the difference with 4K Blu-ray and Blu-ray.

  • @keithevans7996
    @keithevans7996 12 днів тому +3

    I quite agree. Bluray was a big improvement on dvd but 4k is not a big improvement on bluray. I've recently purchased a 4k projector and a 4k dvd player and what I found is that this equipment upscales my bluray collection big time!! I've bought a few 4k discs but quite honestly I've not found them to be that much better than my upscaled bluray discs. This has come as a relief as I was thinking that I was going to have to start spending tons of money to improve my collection.

  • @garyrobinson8665
    @garyrobinson8665 8 місяців тому +26

    I dont own many 4k blu rays. Im happy with blu ray. I will buy blu ray and even dvd 99% of the time. I dont really like blind buying 4ks because of the price. If I really emjoy the film on blu ray I may double dip on 4k.

  • @davidsummers4845
    @davidsummers4845 8 місяців тому +7

    Standard Blu Rays are good quality, but don't include HDR. However, all physical is good.

  • @garbhanmyles
    @garbhanmyles 8 місяців тому +30

    I personally think that Blu-ray was a big upgrade from DVD, but going to 4k is quite often not much of a leap beyond that. With that said, there are some 4K discs with HDR that are truly jaw dropping, however there have been quite a few 4k releases of films that I have on Blu-ray that are really underwhelming and not worth the money. I really think it depends on the standard of transfer for each release and I’ve seen some blu rays that look better than some 4K discs. You are dead right that you should just collect what the hell you want to collect. That should be the only gold standard.

    • @AngelValdez-mr3fq
      @AngelValdez-mr3fq 6 місяців тому +2

      Blue ray is a blurry mess. Some people don't see a difference because they are watching upscaled 4k or fake 4k.

    • @Gaminating
      @Gaminating 6 місяців тому +3

      @@AngelValdez-mr3fqor 4K without HDR.

    • @h8GW
      @h8GW 4 місяці тому +4

      @AngelValdez-mr3fq Well, we're sorry we're not uptight arseholes with eagle eye genes who define our experiences by how toxic we can be to other enthusiasts.

    • @AngelValdez-mr3fq
      @AngelValdez-mr3fq 4 місяці тому +2

      @h8GW You don't need an eagle eye ln 65 inch tv. I'm not being toxic but your comment might mislead someone into thinking it's not worth the upgrade when it is night and day in details. Would you buy a TV only capable of 1080p over a 4k tv? No you would not. So why do that with physical media?

    • @elishawilson5342
      @elishawilson5342 4 місяці тому

      ​@AngelValdez-mr3fq that's what he prefers which is fine

  • @BryanRiel
    @BryanRiel 8 місяців тому +10

    I was debating on getting Aliens 4K until a UA-camr put it side-by-side with the previous Blu-ray. Turns out the newest release was just an AI upscale with DNR on the older Blu-ray master, which had already been sourced from a 4k scan.

    • @Antimonkat
      @Antimonkat 8 місяців тому +3

      that isn't a fair representation of the work done on the 4k version. The HDR color grade alone was more effort then you are giving them credit for, and the main reason to consider it over the bluray if you have a quality TV. Resolution isn't everything.

    • @BryanRiel
      @BryanRiel 8 місяців тому +4

      @@Antimonkat That’s fair.
      My issue isn’t with HDR color-grading more-so than the elimination of natural grain that contributed to the atmospheric texture of the movie - I’m one of those suckers for that filmic look.

    • @thischannelisdeleted
      @thischannelisdeleted 7 місяців тому +2

      Blu-ray looks better

  • @KillingSpree193
    @KillingSpree193 8 місяців тому +17

    You don’t need 4K gaming either. Hence why the frame rates are crappy on current gen consoles.

    • @victoralvarez9459
      @victoralvarez9459 8 місяців тому +1

      honestly bro. I wish everything was smoother.
      The 30fps even 60fps just hurts my eyes sometimes. Even makes me tired and puts me to sleep. lol

    • @KillingSpree193
      @KillingSpree193 8 місяців тому +2

      @@victoralvarez9459 30FPS hurts my eyes to, not so much when I was younger but it hurts my eyes now.

    • @GamezGuru1
      @GamezGuru1 3 місяці тому +2

      @@KillingSpree193 current consoles put out 4K @120fps with HDR, what are you talking about?

    • @KillingSpree193
      @KillingSpree193 3 місяці тому

      @@GamezGuru1 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 nice joke.

    • @frommatorav1
      @frommatorav1 Місяць тому +1

      I guess you don't remember how bad frame rates were on the previous gen consoles.
      If you want the highest frame rates, you can use a PC. It just costs a lot more than a console.
      4k gaming may not be necessary but that doesn't mean it isn't better.

  • @Mr.Randy210
    @Mr.Randy210 2 місяці тому +5

    I have nearly 800 Blurays and nearly 30 4K UHDs, I still buy BDs. I only consider the UHDs for newer movies and truly amazing upgrades, if it is really cheap I may upgrade my older BDs.

  • @pretentiouscameron7815
    @pretentiouscameron7815 8 місяців тому +3

    Any modern film that is shot digitally looks very good on a blu ray. 4K shines best when an older movie shot on film has gotten a 4K transfer.

    • @paulustrucenus
      @paulustrucenus 8 місяців тому

      ​@stonesfan285there will be a big difference if they didn't DNR the shit out of it. Old movies have a lot of granular details which makes them better on 4k than new soft looking movies.

  • @jasonscarlett8868
    @jasonscarlett8868 4 місяці тому +8

    I'm so glad you brought this topic up. It seems these days, everyone is losing their mind to own 4K. I just got back into physical media again, and I
    got myself a Sony Blu-ray player, and I have a 75"tv. I'm more than happy with the performance and quality of Blu-ray. Just because a new kid's on the block🤔We are so quick to forget what we have.🇨🇦🇯🇲❤️👊🏽

    • @CanadianBacon6ix
      @CanadianBacon6ix 4 місяці тому +2

      I feel the same way. Blurays still look amazing.

  • @SpeedIng80
    @SpeedIng80 8 місяців тому +5

    4K is not interesting to me for movies. I was quite enthusiastic about BluRay back in 2007 and got an early PS3 (40GB) in 2008, because I could experience a significant progress in picture quality relative to the DVD, especially on a bigger screen than 32" for example. But 4K does not deliver a similar benefit compared to 1080p. Not even on my 75" screen.
    It is similar to the recent PC hardware overkill: Why should I buy an RTX 4090 for a lot of money? I'm fine with 1080p gaming and therefore my GTX 1080ti is fast enough even in 2024. Even Alan Wake 2 is perfectly playable after the latest patch.

  • @screamingeekmedia
    @screamingeekmedia 8 місяців тому +5

    I have become more selective when buying movies. When I first got into 4K, I thought I needed to have everything that way. But have learned that much of the newer releases there isn't much difference between BD and 4K. Also, Disney animated BDs look good enough and cannot justify double-dipping to replace them with 4K.

    • @slimdude2011
      @slimdude2011 8 місяців тому +2

      There is a difference, but you just can't see it.

    • @screamingeekmedia
      @screamingeekmedia 8 місяців тому +2

      @@slimdude2011 That's why I've become more selective when buying 4Ks. I ask myself "Do I need it?" In the beginning, I felt like I needed to upgrade everything. Last year when I watched some Pixar BDs like Toy Story and Wall-E, they looked phenomenal! Plus watched Lion King (1994) on 4K and compared it and saw only subtle differences. Not enough to go out and replace the rest of my Disney BDs. The only one I might consider is Snow White just due to the history of it being their first animated feature.

  • @duncandonuts5268
    @duncandonuts5268 6 місяців тому +8

    my dad has a 4k 75 inch tv. Blu rays still look very good. 4ks clearly look better, but the blue rays certainly dont look bad at all. Dvds are pretty rough though 👀

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade Місяць тому

      They should, 4k is roughly 2x the horizontal and vertical dimensions. And, if you set it up to allow a little bit of black on the ends, the pixels all line up properly with the ones that the format was intended for. If you do allow the TV to stretch it, there's a little bit of stretch that can mess up the alignment, but it's not by much. It's something like 7% stretch.
      For DVDs, those require a scaling factor of roughly 5.69x horizontal and 4.5x vertical to fill the screen, which means that the pixels aren't going line up nicely on the screen, it also means that each pixel on a DVD is going to be made up of roughly 26 pixels on a 4k display. Which is just going to look bad unless you're sitting far enough away for it to not be too noticeable. For those of us of a certain age, there often times weren't display drivers included with the OS that would provide for appropriate resolution on laptops, so the screen would look like this blurry mess if you didn't install the drivers, and if you chose anything other than the native resolution, you'd have to select one that went into the native resolution evenly because you sat so close tot he screen that you'd a mess.

    • @duncandonuts5268
      @duncandonuts5268 Місяць тому

      @SmallSpoonBrigade even messing with all that with the fancy blu ray player apps on my PC, dvds still don't look very good.

  • @TheReelSketchman
    @TheReelSketchman 5 місяців тому +10

    The only expectation for a movie lover and collector that I have is buy what you love (and will rewatch eventually) and buy what you can comfortably afford. Don't worry about how much others have.

  • @LVJ796
    @LVJ796 8 місяців тому +8

    Everytime I see your collection I feel like mine is way too small🤣

  • @VLAD-yu6ul
    @VLAD-yu6ul 4 місяці тому +2

    I still do DVD even if I am hunting for Blu-Ray now. 4K probably has some major differences from 1080p Blu-Rays but it does not mean my Blu-Rays are worthless or even my DVDs either
    You make a great point

  • @stevenhuynh1999
    @stevenhuynh1999 2 місяці тому

    What about cartoons? How can you compare the difference between blu ray and dvd or 4k cartoons?

  • @velavideoentertainment
    @velavideoentertainment 5 місяців тому +25

    Blu-Ray is the best balance in this day and age.

    • @modalsoul6511
      @modalsoul6511 3 місяці тому +1

      Couldn’t agree more 👍🏼

    • @Will-j8q1w
      @Will-j8q1w 2 місяці тому +2

      I'm seeing some 4K blu rays selling for $49.00 US Dollars...I'll put the brakes on that...I'm staying with 1080 blu ray.

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade Місяць тому +1

      TBH, there's little reason to ever go with more than that. Blurays have roughly half the size in both horizontal and vertical directions and so if you run them on a 4k display, they're still going to look pretty good, even if they are slightly stretched by default in the horizontal direction due to 1920 not going into 4096 evenly. Which is mostly only an issue with movie transfers.

  • @davidsummers4845
    @davidsummers4845 8 місяців тому +4

    I personally prefer 4K because I like the HDR and the additional sharpness.

  • @mtmc7269
    @mtmc7269 8 місяців тому +13

    💯. How many times can you sell me Star Wars and LOTR? I've bought all my favorite films on VHS, DVD, and now Blu-ray. I'm done. I've spent thousands over the years. No more. Blu-ray is my final format.

    • @FURognar
      @FURognar 4 місяці тому

      For me, when I decided I was going to start collecting more physical media, 4k was starting to be talked about. I was buying my favorites on Blu Ray but I didnt go all in quite yet. Then once 4k came out, I started buying all the movies I wanted on 4k even though I still had a regular blu ray player since the 4k set also came with a 1080p blu ray. When I finally got a 4k player, I already had a nice collection of 4k discs to watch on it.

  • @KongGig
    @KongGig 8 місяців тому +3

    4k looks nicer and there is usually more content on the disc, but more often than not I buy DVD or the Blu-ray version, as they are cheaper and easier to find.
    However I see more use with 4k video recording, as 4k video gives considerably more space to work with when editing.

  • @TheLoner00
    @TheLoner00 6 місяців тому +2

    Back when DVD came out they, just about everyone of them had extra features including alternate endings and cut scenes. What happened to that, I really miss that side of it.

  • @FURognar
    @FURognar 8 місяців тому +27

    Its all about the HDR and Dolby Atmos soundtrack. I didnt hear you mention them even once.
    Those are the reasons to buy into 4k. Not the increase in resolution.

    • @RandallStevenson
      @RandallStevenson 8 місяців тому +5

      Many people, myself included, only have a 1080p TV and a DVD player, maybe a Blu-ray player. Even the cheap Walmart 4K TVs are a luxury that most of us just can't justify.

    • @FURognar
      @FURognar 8 місяців тому +10

      @@RandallStevenson in which case then it doesnt make sense.
      But for those who have them, HDR is the reason. Some movies are absolutely transformed on a good HDR tv

    • @nacthenud
      @nacthenud 8 місяців тому

      Totally agree

    • @Sammy-34079
      @Sammy-34079 6 місяців тому +1

      if u want watch good movies go back to 1080p tv with 1080p blu-ray

    • @akirafuto7783
      @akirafuto7783 6 місяців тому +2

      I agree with the HDR thing but Warner bros, Universal, Paramount and even A24 movies that include a Dolby Atmos sound mix are all available on the standard blu-ray option of all recent releases

  • @ZZ-ou7gp
    @ZZ-ou7gp 8 місяців тому +58

    Not all 4k films are the same quality. Some Dvd films actually look better than alot of dodgy bluray and 4k releases... lazy transfers.... Dvd format was a creative experience... not any more

    • @ChesterMan-qd3xj
      @ChesterMan-qd3xj 8 місяців тому +6

      Same thing happened when Blu-ray first came out. I just watched one of those early silver case 1080/Beyond HD releases, and the visuals and sound were awful.

    • @fafa1648
      @fafa1648 8 місяців тому +10

      The original snap front case DVD's sold in the very late 90s to early 00s were the best. There was no forced advertising or promotion and it went STRAIGHT to the DVD menu on boot up. They not only extended endless creative freedom to the artists, they ENCOURAGED it! Of course, that didn't last long. IMO, these original DVD's are the ones to collect. 4k is meaningless to me.

    • @mr.40-15
      @mr.40-15 8 місяців тому +11

      Now tell me which DVDs have better quality than bluray buddy

    • @MrMissingReel
      @MrMissingReel 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@mr.40-15
      There are lazy DVD upscaled ports to Bluray....but they are rare.
      There are DVDs with VHS ports too.

    • @P-LOWN1997
      @P-LOWN1997 8 місяців тому +9

      There’s no way you think a dvd will look better than a 4k😭 it’s obviously a setup issue that you have

  • @coecludd
    @coecludd 8 місяців тому +2

    I think 1080P wil be the "the standard" - it's good, and only fails with a mega large telly!

  • @pretentioussunshine
    @pretentioussunshine 8 місяців тому +1

    I don't own any 4k equipment yet and frankly up until a couple of weeks ago I didn't even really consider 4k as an option for myself. I am just now starting to upgrade some of my collection to Bluray and I think for the foreseeable future it'll be the main format I collect. However since most 4k discs come with a bluray I wanna start getting some of my all time favorite films in 4k, as a special something for my collection
    Eventually I hope to own a good 4k TV and player, but right now I am in uni and I don't need to have this right here right now. There are decades of potential collecting in front of me and your channel is reminding me to be intentional with the things I am buying right now.

  • @670prod.
    @670prod. 8 місяців тому +7

    Preach! These are a lot of the reasons why I haven’t made the jump to 4K UHD. Blu ray is more than enough for me, coming from the world of VHS.

    • @670prod.
      @670prod. 8 місяців тому +3

      It’s videos like this that make you one of my favorite UA-camrs.

    • @jasonthomas9319
      @jasonthomas9319 8 місяців тому +1

      Nah bro, the reason 4k is far superior now is the hdr, I rebought lord of the rings in 4k and the night time images are superior. Look if you cant afford it its fine but sont play this game of amsaying its the same.

    • @19jez89
      @19jez89 8 місяців тому +2

      @@jasonthomas9319 He didn't say they were "the same", he said BD was good enough for him.

    • @670prod.
      @670prod. 8 місяців тому

      @@19jez89 Thank you @19jez89.

    • @4mulaBaby
      @4mulaBaby 7 місяців тому

      All completely depends on your setups. Bigger TV's definitely benefit a lot more from higher resolution and refresh rate. Trying watching a 480 dvd on a 75"+ and it is pretty unacceptable lol

  • @garyrobinson8665
    @garyrobinson8665 8 місяців тому +18

    I do buy old classic movies on dvd. Im pretty happy with the quality overall. I dont need them on 4k.

  • @PackAttackProductions
    @PackAttackProductions 8 місяців тому +2

    Buffy and Angel are some of my favorite shows, what are your thoughts on the angel show?

    • @JamieToomeyPresents
      @JamieToomeyPresents  8 місяців тому +1

      Wasn’t the biggest fan of Angel, but I also haven’t seen the show in its entirety so I should probably go back and watch the whole thing at some point 😅

  • @RandallStevenson
    @RandallStevenson 8 місяців тому +10

    Those UA-camrs and their commenters pushing 4K so hard while disparaging DVD are just, unwittingly or not, trying to force the evolution of the physical medium.

    • @JamieToomeyPresents
      @JamieToomeyPresents  8 місяців тому +5

      Yeah and that’s what I don’t understand, that tribalism, I collect all formats and can appreciate all collections, I love physical media as a whole

    • @LarryFleetwood8675
      @LarryFleetwood8675 8 місяців тому +4

      Agreed, I'm not jumping on the 4K bandwagon I'm content with the other formats.

    • @tastymustard6234
      @tastymustard6234 7 місяців тому

      Because DVD looks like garbage upscaled on 4k TV.

    • @AngelValdez-mr3fq
      @AngelValdez-mr3fq 6 місяців тому

      It's not tribalism. Blue rays are a blurry mess. Gamers especially have trained eyes and can tell immediately when something is 4k and 1080p. It's the difference between a ps4 and a ps5.

    • @GamezGuru1
      @GamezGuru1 6 місяців тому

      @@tastymustard6234 yup, why would you ever watch a DVD, when 90% of the time you can find it on streaming in 1080p?

  • @flyingrobotduck
    @flyingrobotduck 7 місяців тому +1

    In the end it all comes down to enjoying the movie.
    I had an old SD resolution TV until a few years ago then jumped straight to 4k. The jump in quality was staggering.
    After getting a number of 4k movies I got some blurays since they weren't available on 4k.
    Whenever I watch any of my old DVDs I really notice the drop in quality, so I only get DVDs now if there's no other option.
    A good bluray can still be highly enjoyable, I've noticed that newer bluray releases are usually better than older ones, regardless of the age of the actual movie.
    I'm sure the same is true for 4k in general.
    I do hope 4k does stick around, because older movies can look incredible in 4k.
    But that doesn't mean we have to have all our movies in 4k or even bluray.

  • @tapersaud
    @tapersaud 5 місяців тому +1

    The difference in the overall presentation is massive. HDR, Dolby Atmos, and then resolution is why rhe 4K UHD is vastly superior. I have a 65in OLED with Dolby Atmos surround sound so there is a difference for my set up

  • @kylepatrick113
    @kylepatrick113 6 місяців тому +4

    I stick to regular Blu-ray. It’s perfect to me.

  • @handsolo1076
    @handsolo1076 8 місяців тому +6

    In Canada most 4K's I like are $50! You gotta be independently wealthy to collect! Kino, Shout, Vinegar ect are expensive! Conversion & shipping are crazy.

    • @Will-j8q1w
      @Will-j8q1w 2 місяці тому +1

      I see them here in the USA for $50.00 now...all the more reason to buy 1080 Blu ray!

  • @amead78
    @amead78 7 місяців тому +2

    I’ve upgraded some movies to 4k if the Blu-ray release was botched. A lot of my collection is still DVDs and Blu ray. I even still have some of my VHS movies.

  • @DavidMatias79
    @DavidMatias79 5 місяців тому +7

    I love my 42" plasma TV. Movies, especially old movies, which is mostly what I watch look best on plasma. I don't watch TV shows, I'm not into the CGI spectacles, I don't watch sports.
    They don't make plasmas anymore. I bought mine in 2007 for $1200. It still works perfectly. I'm not going to throw it in the trash to buy a new TV that will probably have to be replaced every couple years. I'm gonna keep this plasma as long as possible. Blu-ray looks great on it.

  • @Sigmacenturion
    @Sigmacenturion 8 місяців тому +6

    I have been sticking to standard dvd and havent had any issues.

    • @LarryFleetwood8675
      @LarryFleetwood8675 8 місяців тому +5

      Yes, DVD is definitely still very much a good viewing experience - on the right equipment, that is. Ironically, not on a standard DVD player but an upscaling Blu-ray player.

    • @slimdude2011
      @slimdude2011 8 місяців тому +1

      Some people are just not videophiles. They'll still watch VHS movies on a VCR in pan scan.

    • @GamezGuru1
      @GamezGuru1 6 місяців тому +1

      @@LarryFleetwood8675 It's ok to have low standards...

    • @LarryFleetwood8675
      @LarryFleetwood8675 6 місяців тому +2

      @@GamezGuru1 Yes, 4K...

    • @GamezGuru1
      @GamezGuru1 4 місяці тому +2

      @@LarryFleetwood8675 so 4k is low standard, but DVD is very much a good viewing experience. Ok, no point in talking to this one...

  • @paulustrucenus
    @paulustrucenus 8 місяців тому +1

    I'm new to the collecting game but I always find weird when people try to collect one specific format. Like not all movies are worth the same, are they ? Do I want to spend as much on my copy of Interstellar as on my copy of Ice Age 3 ?
    I range from DVDs to 4k, and which format I buy is on a pure case by case basis. How good is the movie to me ? What's the quality of the transfers ? What are the prices of the different options ?
    Sometimes, 4k is a no brainer ; i haven't even have yet a 4k player but when the 4k bluray of Interstellar is 15 bucks and regular bluray is 12... for one of my favorite movies ever... I obviously pick 4k.
    Yet the majority of my collection is DVD, simply because the majority if my collection is movies that are nothing more than "neat" to me. I'm gonna watch these movies maybe once or twice then I'm done with them. No way I'm spending more than 1 buck for that kind of movie.
    I'm very capable of seeing the difference between the formats and even regular bluray I find quite blurry. But for most movies I don't care that much. I don't care if I don't have the optimal viewing experience when watching Cars 2. Ultimately the quality of the movie itself is what matters most, and if the movie isn't bad, even with a crappy dvd you're still gonna have a good time.

  • @nanonparker-7493
    @nanonparker-7493 4 місяці тому +3

    In my own opinion it is not bad for me to buy 4k copies of the 80’s and 90’s movies because we know that video quality that time was not so good. Blu-rays nowadays are stunning so I buy blu-rays instead of 4k’s

  • @frankvinti925
    @frankvinti925 8 місяців тому +1

    I agree, it's very personal, some 4k transfers have too much DNR, are too dark and sometimes differ very little from the blu-ray quality, some are really good transfers but you have to do your research before spending for nothing or worse, as far as DVD's or VHS are concerned, unless some one still have a CRT I think the quality will suffer too much.

  • @XenomorphLV426
    @XenomorphLV426 8 місяців тому +25

    In the US, the marginal price difference between 4k format and Blu-ray is small.

    • @nightshademilkshake1
      @nightshademilkshake1 8 місяців тому +9

      in Canada it's huge, often twice the price or more

    • @ChrisTheCasual
      @ChrisTheCasual 8 місяців тому +9

      That’s a big lie

    • @servare2599
      @servare2599 8 місяців тому +5

      @@nightshademilkshake1Same in the UK.
      Its often £25 4K / £15 Blu Ray for new release.
      you can usually always find 4Ks for around £15 after a while or look on the second hand market, but its still considerably more expensive than standard Blu Ray.
      Blu Ray is far more affordable here, and they still look fantastic.

    • @joehavermann7729
      @joehavermann7729 8 місяців тому +5

      I'm an American in Germany, where the difference is quite large. But I went over to Amazon to look at US price differences: Dune ($23.98 vs $9.96); Shutter Island ($17.99 vs $9.46); Ghostbusters Afterlife ($23.40 vs $15.00); Fargo ($29.59 vs $10.60).
      Those are just what showed up when I searched "4k" under "Movies." There were a handful of exceptions: "Oppenheimer," with a $2 price difference, or "John Wick: Chapter 4." But also exceptions in the other direction -- "Interstellar" and the the Harry Potter Collection were both nearly three times as expensive on 4k.
      In Germany, I would say that blu ray titles are comparably priced to US titles or actually cheaper, whereas 4k titles are somewhat more expensive -- that makes the price differences worse. But even in the US, I wouldn't call the difference marginal. It looks like on average, they are 50-90% more expensive.

    • @servare2599
      @servare2599 8 місяців тому +2

      @@joehavermann7729 For sure that's hardly a marginal difference, it's what pushed me to stop buying 4Ks at the rate I was buying them.
      Intresting to see how other countries tally upto the US prices nonetheless.

  • @CanadianBacon6ix
    @CanadianBacon6ix 8 місяців тому +17

    Remastered blurays are just as good as 4k blurays

    • @FURognar
      @FURognar 8 місяців тому +7

      Except the Blu Rays dont have HDR or Dolby Vision.
      If you have a TV thats good with HDR, you want the 4k version. Or oftentimes, only the 4k version has the Atmos or DTS:X soundtrack. If you have a full theater system, you want the Atmos track.
      If you have a good 4k tv, you want the 4k for the HDR.
      If you use a projector or cheaper tv and dont have an Atmos system, then you should stick with the blu ray.

    • @RandallStevenson
      @RandallStevenson 8 місяців тому +6

      @@FURognarall very expensive luxuries that the average person just can't justify

    • @joehavermann7729
      @joehavermann7729 8 місяців тому +1

      I notice a difference in side-by-side comparisons but often not a large enough difference to justify the price. If you were to show me a newly remastered blu ray and then asked me a week later what we watched, I wouldn't be able to tell you.

    • @FURognar
      @FURognar 8 місяців тому +2

      @@RandallStevenson if you buy used speakers and subs it actually doesnt cost that much. You can get a decent receiver for $300. You can get a 55" or 65" tv for $300. Then the rest just pick up here and there from the used market. Thats what I did when I started out and it sounded amazing. Better than any soundbar.

    • @elishawilson5342
      @elishawilson5342 4 місяці тому

      ​@@FURognarwhat does that have to do with anything

  • @joebo7777
    @joebo7777 8 місяців тому +3

    My dvd of Dune 1984 was poor quality so this year I replaced it with the Arrow 4k release, great quality. Yet watching 80’s and 90’s TV series on dvd (Millennium and Granada Sherlock Holmes series) on a 65 inch Samsung TV upscaled via pananasonic ub820 4k player; picture quality is excellent. What’s the priority the film or the fancy packaging of the latest new format release. Most collectors at least those on UA-cam seem to have lost focus; film first not packaging. Buy what you like not what you are told to buy. Great video!

    • @JamieToomeyPresents
      @JamieToomeyPresents  8 місяців тому +3

      Amen, it’s the experience of watching films, not what format it’s on

  • @notliosandoval
    @notliosandoval 8 місяців тому +2

    The people saying this, clearly don’t have good HDR TV’s, they buy the cheapest/largest 4K TV they can find on Black Friday, and think they’re getting a better viewing experience than their 15 year old plasma.

  • @wilsonlove7647
    @wilsonlove7647 7 місяців тому +1

    I get the appeal of 4K, but I am more than happy with my dvd and blu ray collection. Either way, it's just great that people still enjoy buying all forms of physical media.

  • @OG_G4m3r
    @OG_G4m3r 7 місяців тому +2

    To the new collector's -- if you have a good TV, 4k is a VERY noticeable upgrade over bluray. It's objectively better. You don't have to do anything you don't want to do. You don't have to buy everything. But 4k picture quality is a lot better than bluray.

  • @shinyelbow
    @shinyelbow 21 день тому

    Good video reminding us that the main thing is we enjoy watching movies in whatever format we have access to, regardless of the level of AV fidelity (however major or minor the quality difference may be).

  • @Robert063
    @Robert063 7 місяців тому

    whats with the red blue and yellow stickers on the sides of the cases in the back can someone explain?

  • @richardlansing
    @richardlansing 2 місяці тому

    I have bought numerous used bluray disc that look like they have been thru he[[ and back. And then ripped them to my computer and home server (and there is no difference at that point between new and used). Then the physical disc is thrown on to a spindel with 100 other blurays just in case i need the disc again. I imagine this will be the fate of most of my 4k discs (there are boxsets and steelbooks that i do prize however).

  • @NandosN0W
    @NandosN0W 8 місяців тому +2

    I think dvds look bad but blu rays look really good even compared to 4k especially if you have a good player and high end tv

  • @ebinrock
    @ebinrock Місяць тому +1

    The trouble is, the more they increase the resolution of the TV's, the worse older formats look because they have to scale up, so then they start looking soft. It's all relative. A DVD looked great on a CRT, and the difference was drastic compared to VHS. Now, when I watch a DVD on my LCD HDTV (haven't upgraded yet to a 4K/UHD TV yet because my HDTV still works), it looks soft. I'd hate to see what it would look like on a 4K/UHD TV. That's where we need AI upscaling! Anyway, so far my blu-rays look great on my HDTV; it remains to be seen what it would look like on a UHD TV if my HDTV ever crapped out. One thing I know, I can't afford to keep upgrading/replacing my physical media collection. I've already gone from VHS to DVD to blu-ray; I'd like to stop but I want to make sure my movies will still look good. My vintage TV show box sets from the 70's and 80's, however, will need to stay forever on DVD, because those were shot on standard def (SD) videotape and will never get any better resolution.

    • @Slask7
      @Slask7 14 днів тому

      this.
      with modern 4K screens, especially the bigger ones, and features such as HDR, old formats definitely look worse.
      4K discs on the other hand are superb when you watch them on a calibrated 4K screen.
      Neither I want to keep upgrading over and over, but as long as the benefit in quality (both video and audio) is remarkable it’s worth it.
      And deep down many of us already know 4K is likely to be the last physical format for movies, so I think this is where we can gather as many copies as we can and be happy with this collection.

  • @NightmareLink110
    @NightmareLink110 8 місяців тому +2

    What else annoys me that the mentality of UA-camrs telling you that Slipcovers are a must. Like, some movies I don't even care to own the Slipcover versions. I usually will pick it up if I can find it but eh, unless its a movie/movie series that I love, then I will get the Slipcovers. Also, I don't have a 4K TV but I pick up 4K versions is if it comes with the Blu-Ray. If it does not, I get the Blu-Ray version instead. DVDs are also fine if I can't find it on Blu-Ray or its stuck on DVD.
    I recently had gotten Snow White on 4K from Best Buy for $25, then I found the Disney Movie Club Blu-Ray version at my Walmart for $10. I wasn't too sure to have it but I returned the 4K version to save money and used it on another movie. So it was a win-win for me. That Disney Boxset is sick, but we never got that in the US.
    P.S. K-Mart in the US only exists in two states with two stores: New York and Florida. I miss K-Mart, can we trade your K-Mart for our Target, please?

  • @salvatorecarapazza248
    @salvatorecarapazza248 7 місяців тому +1

    I'm learning a lot by watching your videos. Awesome!

  • @modalsoul6511
    @modalsoul6511 3 місяці тому +1

    I don’t have a 4k tv yet so you already know where I stand , now I buy 4k disc now as future reference but I’m not pressed for 4k at all , Blu ray is fine for me, hell some films only have dvd release and im ok with that.

  • @mykal.7424
    @mykal.7424 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm not a 4k collector. I don't find it necessary for me. I've seen 4k disc displayed on high end equipment and I've seen Blu Ray played on a upscaled high end player and same equipment...It was shocking how amazing the Blu Ray was . I for one isn't someone who just dump formats for the new one. I still have Laserdisc and DVD. Blu Ray's are a steal for what the maximum quality you can get from them with equipment that's properly set up. Yes, i know a lot of the time it's the source material too. But mainly Blu Ray properly set up can fool most thinking they are watching 4k disc. The price amount in comparison, plus the awful AI remastering of disc now is another reason not to jump to that format. Online Home theater magazines and other media review sites tell you what they say is better. Specs aren't always what it seems .

  • @crankyfloridian
    @crankyfloridian 8 місяців тому +2

    I'll say it depends what equipment you have, I am still sticking to Bluray and DVD I can get them cheap and my Projector is not 4K neither do I see myself paying 2 grand for a 4K projector and 3-400 for a player on top, especially not with physical media dying as we speak. now dont get me wrong I can afford it I just dont want to.

  • @SpaceCattttt
    @SpaceCattttt 3 місяці тому +2

    Look, if I had as many Blu-Rays as you do, I'd probably say that 4K doesn't matter as well! Who wants to upgrade several thousand titles?

    • @cjp8155
      @cjp8155 3 місяці тому +1

      People with thousands of titles just buy any old shit to pad the numbers.

  • @Graphicxtras1
    @Graphicxtras1 8 місяців тому +5

    Bought a few 4K and they are fine but I prefer blu-ray for the price / quality. Happy with a DVD and even a VHS tape

    • @LarryFleetwood8675
      @LarryFleetwood8675 8 місяців тому +2

      Yes, me too. DVD will look quite nicely on a good Blu-ray player that upscales it'll be perfectly fine enough for most people including myself. I don't mind that so-called lower quality to me it only adds something. I grew up with dirt and specs on film anyway it's part of it, not this clinically presented spotless stuff. It's crazy, how some people suddenly can't watch a format we all used before with no complaints whatsoever. It is, like Jamie so correctly says, all about enjoying the movie itself and the cozy experience of favourite movies more so than having some latest format that the business vultures want you to buy. People need to think for themselves and their own preferences, listen less to 'experts'.

  • @Ang417
    @Ang417 8 місяців тому +2

    You're right im going to stick with Bluray for now... i just have a few 4k Blu-rays because i have a PS5 and it plays 4k Bluray .. bluray are still good... i did buy back to the future trilogy 4k because thats one of my favorite movies of all times

  • @MtnManJack
    @MtnManJack 7 місяців тому +1

    Im quite an audiophile so I tend to get the 4K copies especially when they're upgraded to Dolby Atmos. You get great video and excellent audio.

  • @tabv_v
    @tabv_v 8 місяців тому +2

    All the 4ks ive got were like 2 dollars more than the standard bluray, soo two copies of one movie for 25 bucks instead of one for 23? Why not, but yeah it all comes down to setup i collect vhs and i wouldnt recommend it to anyone that isnt willing to keep a crt around. 4ks only really beneficial if you've got like a whole movie theater setup. As for what i buy: online ive got burned with dvd discs being loose in the case and getting destroyed, blu survives the mail. I think people put too much attention on bad transfer, usually just go for the cheapest option unless its a movie i absolutely love. Also as for vhs collecting: i have absolutely upgraded to newer editions because anything that was filmed anamorphically looks like shit when pan and scanned, if 47% of the image is gone it does the film a disservice, likewise for horror collecting a lot of those tapes are censored and are missing what made them infamous.

  • @donaldwatson4991
    @donaldwatson4991 4 місяці тому

    A lot of blu-ray disc don't come with atmos or dts x on them now do to the 4k releases.

  • @davecrawford1
    @davecrawford1 8 місяців тому +1

    I've collected hundreds of DVDs over 20 years. I'm now getting into blu ray and 4K. My cheat with retaining the dvd resolution is that I have a 42 inch 720p plasma I watch them on. All the rest I watch on my 65 inch 4k. Some dvds look great on 4k tv, if they don't, I watch them on the 720p plasma instead

  • @SlashManEXE
    @SlashManEXE 6 місяців тому +1

    People are loyal to UHD as a brand, and the films get sidelined. The Cameron 4K films had some very obvious flaws, and a lot of film collectors told us to just shut up and buy it. In a world where every 4K release was perfect and didn’t drop any features, it’d be easier to promote the format as a whole. But if you’re getting a DNR mess with incorrect color timing, or missing soundtracks, are you that much worse off with a $5 DVD?

  • @modalsoul6511
    @modalsoul6511 3 місяці тому +1

    “ it’s about enjoying the movie” 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 thank you , there are UA-camrs which all they talk about is collecting….collecting it’s never about the movies … just buying boxset after boxset …. It’s the a complete waste of money

  • @paulp6386
    @paulp6386 8 місяців тому

    Hi Jamie. Love your content.
    Only thing is it is very hard to hear you, unless I turn my speakers way up.

  • @Nope2022HugeTheWarningFan
    @Nope2022HugeTheWarningFan 8 місяців тому

    Taking a look at Shout! Factory's first CE of Cat People, comparing it to the 4K UHD, you can actually see more detail in the picture on the 4K UHD. One spot I noticed is that the lead actress has a scare on her face. It was very fuzzy in the Blu-ray they put out years and years ago.

  • @shazmanbound1496
    @shazmanbound1496 8 місяців тому +2

    I have a Sony region free Bluray player that plays DVD's and Bluray disc, plugged into a 4K TV. Yet 4K players are something Im not interested in at the moment. Yes I have the Bluray+4K movie releases so if I ever get a 4k player I have some disc to use them on. But hell Bluray still looks damn great!! I even own DVD movies that are dual layer format and they still look good.

  • @TuneTamasha
    @TuneTamasha 4 місяці тому

    Good you explained what you meant. In a way I agree. I started upgrading to 4K just now. Finally affordable decent upgrades. Still have loads of Blurays, DVDs and tapes. And am fine with them. Not everything is on Bluray or 4K anyway. You have a mighty collection. But not everyone has the room or money for that. I certainly don't. So just collecting what I actually love. Plus I hate relying on streaming solely.

  • @jasonleetaiwan
    @jasonleetaiwan 5 місяців тому +1

    Because you showed me that Disney box set, I want it now. Look what you did to me. The funny thing is that most of what's in there is on Disney Plus, and I never watch any of it because I don't like watching kid's content anymore. I wanted to watch many of those titles when I was a kid, but not anymore. :(

  • @PinBallReviewerRepairs
    @PinBallReviewerRepairs 4 місяці тому

    I get 4K blu-rays if they are cheap and I have gotten 4K ones for like $10 and most of the time they come with regular blu-rays that are non-4K but also have the 4K disc.
    So yeah I will usually wait for the 4K to go down in price before getting it.

  • @JohnDoe-bz4yl
    @JohnDoe-bz4yl 8 місяців тому +1

    People automatically think a movie on 4K s better which is not always the case
    I haven't bought a 4K in a long time as the Blu ray version is good enough for me but if the film is a favourite of mine of which there is a big uptake in video and audio quality then I;ll upgrade example I have ordered a copy of the movie Fargo on 4K from Amazon US via Amazon AU here in Australia

  • @Movies_with_Marco
    @Movies_with_Marco 8 місяців тому +1

    Great video! Love your outlook

  • @Thundarr030
    @Thundarr030 8 місяців тому +4

    Amazing subject and you are so right. People should collect what they love and can afford both monetary and space wise. Nobody should feel like they have to "keep up with the jones"

  • @pontiacw7
    @pontiacw7 Місяць тому

    Only time i really buy 4k is when the price difference isn't a deal breaker. I've only recently gotten a TV that can support 4k. I usually prefer a blue ray/dvd combo because I like the option to have blu ray for home viewing, but I can take the dvd and use it in portable dvd players or even in my car/truck.

  • @smasherjosh5000
    @smasherjosh5000 8 місяців тому +1

    I'm personally go for the highest quality possible within reason. I use a CRT TV for DVDs I frankly find the video quality to be much better especially via RGB SCART much better even more so than even upscaled, I personally found widescreen DVDs on my LED TV looking strange, but on my widescreen CRT TV. I can't stand streaming even though I have paid for a Crunchyroll Mega Fan subscription, DVDs like you said are dirt cheap even new condition. It's also worth pointing out these video comparisons on here will look compressed opposed to in real life. I appreciate you bringing up the streaming services but one thing is worth pointing out is the video quality will not be as good as the physical copy due to your Internet connection even via Ethernet, people have said 4K streaming looks worse than 1080p Blu-Ray. I have bought DVDs, Blu-Rays and 4K Ultra HD Blu-Rays which I have not watched at all before and I on average did enjoy them.

  • @DelinquentSquirrel
    @DelinquentSquirrel 6 днів тому

    I have a 4k OLED telly (65"). I can't see any difference between 1080p and 4k. Saves a fortune in buying movies, and disk space when ripped to the media server.

  • @graugaarddk
    @graugaarddk 7 місяців тому

    The magic letters is HDR, and prefferebly Dolby Vision. The way the dynamic range is set anc (in Dolby Vision) can change throughout the film is what makes 4K good.

  • @GodsOnlyGospel
    @GodsOnlyGospel 8 місяців тому +1

    Agree. Even if I had a million I wouldn't pay $64 for one movie. I get all my movies from op shops and pay $1, $2 or $3 for a movie. $3-$5 for a blu ray

  • @cjeelde
    @cjeelde 8 місяців тому +3

    I've watched almost all Bond movies on DVD on a 65" 4K OLED TV with a Sony 6700 Bluray player that got 4K upscale, and all movies look GREAT at normal viewing distance! It's like "why do you even need Bluray 1080p discs?"
    The movies will not be better in Bluray or 4K. Just slightly better picture quality.
    The price gap between DVDs and Blurays are in many cases now zero or a few percent but Bluray 4K movies costs often maybe 3X as much as Bluray 1080p. Now lately I've seen a very few 4K titles at a much lower cost but still a bit more than normal Bluray discs.
    Bluray 1080p looks GREAT on a 65" 4K TV with that good Bluray player (Sony 6700: not a 4K player but got a 4K upscaler chip which is great for DVD movies). I'm surprised that DVDs will look THAT good on 65" that you don't really need to replace your DVDs with the same movie on Bluray. Bluray 1080p looks great, so I agree with you: the best buy is Bluray 1080p movies when DVDs and Bluray 1080p cost kind of the same and Bluray 4K cost 2X or 3X (very often) or 4X compared to 1080p.
    But I have to add that if you got a 98" 8K TV or 80" or something really really big, then you might wanna go for Bluray 4K. TVs up to 65": we really don't need Bluray 4K.
    Also have to add this that I catched from a video 2-3 years ago. Most movies with a lot of special effects got that in 1080p. So 4K movies got most of these special effects upscaled from 1080p to 4K. Most effects are rendered in 1080p. But of course, with more powerful computers/chips the movie industry are rendering special effects more and more in 4K. It takes so much time for these clusters to render in 4K. 1080p is much faster. It will always come a time when computers are THAT POWERFUL so they don't wanna render in 1080p because it's fast enough with 4K.
    Steve Jobs told about rendering for Pixar's movies. The computing power increased by 1000X or more over a few years but the rendering was not even faster: because the movie creators wanna have more details in the animations. So the rendering will take as much time as many years ago but with more details and higher resolution. Steve Jobs was the CEO for Pixar.
    So many of the 4K movies with a lot of special effects got that in 1080p but upscaled to 4K. It's worth to know! But I don't know exactly which movies that got 1080p renderings and 4K renderings or worse than 1080p. Would have been so cool if they could remake Terminator 2 with the computing power of 2024! Terminator 2 was the coolest movie ever when it came out because of the amazing special effects. The golden standard at that time.
    Anyways I really appreciate your videos! Great topics and so much common sense! You deserve way more views!

    • @LarryFleetwood8675
      @LarryFleetwood8675 8 місяців тому +1

      So true, thank goodness for Blu-ray players that upscale DVD to 'HD'...it's a match made in heaven. :-] Seriously, this is how I prefer watching a DVD it looks so much better than on a standard DVD player, I feel like I really don't need to do any so-called 'upgrading' of anything to either Blu-ray or even 4K. Mind you, I have a ton of Blu-rays too yet overall, I don't really care which format I watch a movie on DVD is perfectly fine for me too on my trusted Panasonic Blu-ray players.

    • @frommatorav1
      @frommatorav1 Місяць тому

      Steve Jobs didn't work for Pixar. He worked at Apple. If he spoke about rendering speed it was in general terms because he's involved in tech, not making movies. The computers in the last 10 years, since he passed are exponentially better than they used to be, also.

    • @cjeelde
      @cjeelde Місяць тому +1

      @@frommatorav1 Steve Jobs owned Pixar and was their CEO :)

    • @frommatorav1
      @frommatorav1 Місяць тому

      @@cjeelde The Wiki paragraph I just googled, shows him as a co-founder and investor, but not in management as CEO.
      "He and colleague Ed Catmull then spun out to co-found the famous Pixar, soon followed by the hiring of Lucasfilm colleague John Lasseter, and Steve Jobs as an investor. It was at Pixar that Toy Story would be made - the very first, entirely computer-animated, feature film." Dec 12, 2023

    • @cjeelde
      @cjeelde Місяць тому

      @@frommatorav1 I can highly reconmend you to read the Wikipedia article instead of just read from what Google want you to let you know.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixar
      Jobs started as chairman and added the CEO role in 1994. So he was much more active in Pixar since 1994.
      Anyways it's very very important to not just trust any summary by a 3rd part even if it's Google. Always look at the original source. Sometimes the source is behind a paywall (for example some newspaper) and that's not fun. But always be aware of this :)

  • @paulaidenmusic
    @paulaidenmusic 3 місяці тому

    Great video with valid points, I’m starting to build a 4K collection and it’s damn expensive.

  • @David01.d
    @David01.d 8 місяців тому +1

    I think the older harry potter films look better on dvd than the bluray

  • @omnitone
    @omnitone 8 місяців тому

    hevc at 128mbps sounds awesome but idk if films are meant to be that sharp. i notice that film grain, although helpful in preventing color banding, is still such that 4k probably won't look better.

    • @GamezGuru1
      @GamezGuru1 6 місяців тому

      color banding is caused by your TV, or compression.

  • @ImmortalRimas
    @ImmortalRimas Місяць тому

    I originally had zero interest in 4K Blu-ray when it first emerged but what finally won me over was the fact they come region free as standard whereas other release’s regional formats mostly standard Blu-ray are cherry picked by whoever is releasing them but that said I don’t buy every 4K Blu-ray as most of them are not created equal for example I’ve passed on so far all of James Cameron‘s 4K Blu-ray film releases for obvious reasons everyone knows. Living in the UK we haven’t been price gouged that much with the 4K Blu-ray format as badly as other countries yet except for the big box set releases sometimes

  • @JassminaVellucci
    @JassminaVellucci Місяць тому

    I do have couple 4K. But my collection is largely DVDs, and Blu ray. I also have some of my old VHS. I’m perfectly fine with that. I don’t need to go spend over $40-60, just for a4k. Honestly the price is just going to go up, due to the collectors. And they know people will spend money. 4K is the new iPhone, if you get what I’m saying.

  • @synergil3605
    @synergil3605 2 місяці тому

    I buy 4k if 2nd hand, the price is cheap or its like a movie I tend to watch pretty often. I also like 4k for sci-fi heavy movies, like Alita, or Ready Player One. For the most part I go with Blu Ray.

    • @ROBLOX-1gv7ej2j
      @ROBLOX-1gv7ej2j Місяць тому

      Nope 4k is evil And if it dares approach my home It'll be one ticket down to the streets. However, if it's full HD blu Ray discs and full hd samsung tv it gets to stay in my home. No 4K technology near my home, especially on monitors as well. And I.
      Will kicked it out to the streets With 1440P. No high resolution in my house. Only 1080p allowed.

  • @BlacksRaven
    @BlacksRaven 8 місяців тому +1

    I tried to catch up with Blu-Rays, but failed when I realized how bad it works on PC for no reason. I don't own a TV and never will. Still watching DvDs.

    • @frommatorav1
      @frommatorav1 Місяць тому

      The reason is the picture studios don't want you to have access to physical media on PCs, so you have to stream it. DVDs were already common place and it was too late to prohibit that but blurays for a long time didn't natively play on windows, so you needed 3rd party software. I believe since about 2020 on a modern computer you should be able to play bluray but now it's the 4k UHD bluray that are blocked for PC by the movie studios. It is still possible with workarounds but if you don't a have a 4k monitor with HDR, I would recommend to not go any higher than bluray anyways.

  • @RyanDabrowskiBoilerUp
    @RyanDabrowskiBoilerUp 5 місяців тому

    I will agree with what you said, movies should be enjoyed in whatever way you want to enjoy movies, now I just want to add, 4K adds more then just 4k resolution, it generally adds Atmos, or DTS:X so you are getting better sound, and picture… that is as long as you have the ability to enjoy the new 4k with all of its added bonuses, 4k tv, an Atmos/dts:X, auro enabled receiver… with some good sub woofers… it can make a difference,

  • @KSWAN1287
    @KSWAN1287 8 місяців тому

    In the states it’s $24.99-27 for a blu ray and 4k is $27.99-29 normally for a new movie. I get the 4k for the extra few bucks so I can get both 4k and blu ray physical discs. So I have two great copies of the same movie. Paying 25 bucks just for a blu ray and dvd is still nice but the margin isn’t drastic. I see it’s crazy in other regions. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with blu ray. It’s amazing and has a natural quality with a good grain to it. I won’t knock someone who does dvd only. They are still supporting a better medium than streaming. Ownership of any format is important.

  • @Methuselah969V
    @Methuselah969V 3 місяці тому +1

    Blurays makes up most of my collection In most cases Im content with the bluray but I have 100 4ks now and most of them do look slightly better than a regular bluray some are amazing then I have some movies on 4k that arent really necessary like the movie Snatch is a great 4k but the movie itself doesnt have great visuals its totally fine on bluray and others I cant even tell the difference. I have lots of dvds which are totally fine for TV shows and Comedy multipacks.