EV Evolve 50s review and comparison to the Bose L1 Pro 16s.
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- EV Evolve 50s review and comparison to the Bose L1 Pro 16s. I've used the Bose for over 50+ events. Th EV 50s for one weekend of events.
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Youre confusing Headroom with your mixer... Each speaker is built and desinged differently. The Gains on the EVs are designed much differently than the Bose. For one speaker youll need to increase your master volume high enough versus the other being much more sensitive.
Yes, you are 100% right and that's what I figured out. Thanks for the input!
Great video. Just a heads up, the EV is a locking IEC but the cable doesn’t come with the units. I use the QSC cables and they lock in just fine.
There is a volume and a main level. turn to -80, set levels for your loudest sound source. then turn up volume to level you want. It's got way more headroom. I run mine at 0 volume and main at 0 and I can get an acoustic and vocal at 115 db. and still had more headroom, it is a tank. Also, put it in live mode, the club mode is much more bass heavy and less balanced.
Thanks for the knowledge! I appreciate it!
I’m thinking of purchasing the Bose system. I’m not sure if I want to get the eight or the 16. I’ve heard reviews where they say. the 16 is hard to control the level of base even with it turned all the way down. I’m going to be playing acoustic and electric guitar vocals and some BACKING TRACKS. What are your thoughts?
Yes I agree that might be a problem. I know from a Djs point of view the bass is deep and strong I usually tune the bass way down during first dances at weddings just because it’s so strong. Not sure how this would be for musicians.
You got the input levels (preamps) on the 50's set too low. They should be set to just before clipping. Then You will have all the headroom you need from the main amp.
if only the Bose had a couple more inputs! i like the evolve as it has plenty of inputs and no need for a separate mixer
How many inputs you need?
just 3- kick, vocs and guitar- but most speakers without the onboard mixer only have 2!@@jpwpro
Good review. I own pro8 and they are amazing. Bought it back in 2021. I been a dj for over 20 years now. I have went through almost every brand. Jbl,qsc,Yamaha, EV. The sound quality of bose for small to mid size events are top grade.
How many S1 will it take to be equal to the L1 pro eight, in terms of loudness? Thank you.
This is exactly what I have been saying after owning the EV M30 and Bose L1Pro 8.
The mids and highs on the EV’s were muddy in comparison to the Bose. No amount of eq could remedy the issue. If you are just playing dance music cranking it you may not care. Most reviews are about loudness and not quality of sound!
Agree! Thanks for watching
Diddo!!! I couldn’t agree more. I did a fair ground gig and the Bose covered the ground! The EV... nope. I couldn’t get it loud enough! And the clarity didn’t come close...😢
I am and have been sticking with my Bose!! They are awesome!
Thanks for the feedback!
Since the S1 Pro+ with wireless capability has just been released, I suspect there will be new L1 Pro16 and Pro32 coming out soon’ish which will most probably will also have wireless capabilities and maybe address some of the perceived tower wobble.
Love your review. I really like your "straight to the point" Pros and Cons. I was a JBL guy and never like Bose until I tried Pro 16. Now I own two Power Station 1's, L1 Model II, and two L1 Pro16s and never look back. I also have owned LD systems Maui 6 and 11, and Curv 500 and their Stinger sub. This is what I can tell you about LD systems speakers: because the way they position the horns (Maui 11), the audience has to be at the right distance, otherwise, they will miss out all the treble. Maui 28 has the same mid/high arrangements so Im pretty sure it would have the same problem. Bose (and EV Evolve) are using full range speaker drivers and no horns so they don't have this problem. LD systems Curv has a much better mid/high speaker design but it is severely underpowered. Across LD models, originally equipped subwoofer drivers were so subpar that I had to replace them, then they worked so much better.
Wow, interesting as I'm a JBL guy too. It sounds (literally,lol) that these Bose are really good, and stirring up the Pro Audio world. I just wondered with the all plastic construction how durable they would be. And the fact they offer a 32 speaker Line Array is rather special. Hope they perform well for you. My current home surround ended up being a used JBL system (as buying used, I can enjoy a higher quality system than buying new) and blown away with what I ended up with. It's the best sounding system I've ever owned and has truly made me a convert to JBL. Things like the "Bespoke" AV Receiver (rated 105W RMS per channel but closer to 140W RMS, plenty of power), and all passive speakers (including towers) seem more musical than any of the powered speaker systems by other brands. The higher the volume, the clearer the sound. Amazing. And it goes to "11" on the volume knob. lol. nice feature. And my prior system was an Onkyo AV Receiver with Polk passive surround system speakers, so not shabby at all. By the way some excellent music for ya: hardest hitting Drum and Bass songs for your enjoyment: "Witchcraft" by Pendulum - Rob Swire D & B mix. On UA-cam channel "Be a Baddie like a Demon" - song "Blowin Smoke" (fourth or fifth song). Not sure who even does the song, but it hits hard! AND Best R & R album of 2023: "Howl at the Sky" - 'In Line for the End Times'. Entire album, debut album by the way released 6/23 is Excellent!. Solid 9 out of 10, and no cookie monster vocals.LOL. Plus some great guitar work. You won't be disappointed! Lastly: Best R & R Album 2020: "Villagers of Ioannina City" (Greece) - "Age of Aquarius". Again Solid 9 out of 10, entire album, their 2nd. Heavy Pink Floyd influence, while still completely original, and using classical Greek instruments instead of synths. Again singing, no cookie monster vocals. Good stuff. I'm a Musician, playing drums and piano since 16, and I listen to music every day instead of watching tv, - so yeah I know good music! Enjoy friend! Peace!
@@johannjohann6523 If you like JBL, you should try CBT J70-1. It is a passive array column with four 5 in speakers and sixteen soft dome tweeters. I actually modified both of my Bose L1 Pro 16 so I can use its built-in subwoofer with a pair of JBL CBT70J-1. I feel I can put up this set up against ANY portable line array systems out there (believe me, I'm not boasting here). Just like you, I buy decent used speakers and I have never been disappointed . I really hope you have a chance to try those JBL speakers. I really think the plastic construction doesn't interfere with the quality of the sound as long as those speakers are paired with a subwoofer to handle all the bass sound. I used to handle the sound system for a church and have experienced with all lines of JBL MR series including their 3-way system MR838's and some of the SR series. Those professional speakers are the best, and yet, too heavy and sound a bit harsh to me. Wish you lot of fun with the experimenting of sounds.
I have run multiple Bose L1 systems since they were released, not one has broken,failed or been knocked over.
This is blowing my mind. I have to ask. Did you adjust any EQ setting or were you testing it as it was. The EV requires adjustments, that’s where the Bose lacks considerably. According to Bose, the l1 pro 16 is rated a maximum 124 db and EV is rated at 127db.
You’re the first person I’ve heard say the Bose is louder than the EV. I’m going to head to a GC to hear them for myself. I’m glad I saw this video. I’m quite intrigued. I need to go hear them for myself. Thanks for the review!
First of all thanks for watching yes I originally went to Guitar Center to listen to the EVS and the rep asked me if I had heard the Bose L1 Pro 16s? I said no. He did a comparison between the EV 50s and the Bose L! Pro 16s and it wasn't even close! Specs don't mean s*** in my opinion! As far as the settings go (Lows/Mids/Highs) when I compared them they were all set at 12:00 on the EQ
Weird he’s the only I’ve heard on YT that has these opinions on the Bose over the EV’s and the LD’s. Think must be trying to get Bose to send him some speakers to review/promote.
I listened to both of those at Guitar Center as well and that EV was so much cleaner sounding. Bose reminded me of a rebranded JBL. The clerk even tried to steer me away from them to a top and bottom set of Harbinger’s and that was definitely a red flag..
@@seeda3473 I listened to the harbingers and they were extremely harsh. I would never buy those. I did listen to Bose (but only the l1 pro 8. The rep wouldn’t get out the ev50 😑. I only got to listen to the small ev everse 8 and compared it to the small Bose s1 pro plus. The Bose l1 pro 8 sounded fantastic with acoustic guitar but just didn’t get that loud. The tiny battery powered ev, I thought was louder than the Bose column LOL. However, the Bose did sound better with my acoustic. I ended up buying the small Bose for my daughter for practice and convenience. If I get an all in one, I’m going ev. More channels, more effects, more EQ. You just get a lot more for your money. I feel limited with the Bose.
@@seeda3473 Nope not looking for free gear at all just giving my opinion. I've used all 3 brands EV 50s, Maui 28s and the Bose at the same venue and crowd size and to me there's no comparison, the Bose L1 Pro 16s sound the best and have the most headroom. But like I mentioned in my reviews I have 3 DJs that work for me that all use the EV 50s. I do think that the EV's and Maui's are built better/more road worthy than the Bose. I currently own the Bose and the Maui 28's. I use the Bose when I need more sound for a little larger event.
@@seeda3473😅😅
COULDNT AGREE WITH YOU MORE. I own pro16 evolve and pro32 sub2. Evolve has always let me down on headroom. I was thinking my settings were off. Nope. Bose out of the gate is effortless to get them cranking.
After owning a pair of the EV M30 and Bose. The EV’s are muddy in comparison.
Been using the Pro 16s since the beginning of the wedding season this year here in western Chicagoland (near you!). Love them! I've never even gotten close to the limiter!
I got my Bose L1 Pro 16 last week. I love it. It’s lite weight
Evox j8 mix is cheaper,lighter louder than those, and it have adjustable pole.
That's the one speaker brand I have not tried. I'm very curious how they would compare to the Bose, EVS and the LD's.
I have the Evox 12 system, simply amazing. I got lucky them got them before the price increase.
Thank you for your opinions on these 2 great systems. It was very informative, but you are giving a DJs point of view. I am a solo musician that also use 2 of the 50Ms for my band. Solo (1 system) or Band (2) they kill. I've heard the Bose in both Solo and Band , and they can't keep up. I play solo with full backing tracks, and my 50M projects outdoors as well. I played this past weekend at a Farmer's Market, and my friend said he heard me 2 blocks away.
Just my 2 cents from a gigging musician.
Yep, this is just my opinion for DJing weddings, I'm sure they work great for other applications. Actually most of the DJs I know prefer the EVs. Thanks for watching!
Okay so I think I'm leaning towards the ev's after hearing everyone's feedback but I heard the sound dispersion range is not as good on the ev's as it is the Bose.
@@joeyoleary7647 Unless you are playing outdoors, it won't matter much. Even then it wouldn't be a deal breaker as the sound is so much fuller.
If the Line Array does not fit into the Sub to carry on just one hand then that is a no Portable Line array. It's just a Line Array system wanna be portable.. I rather bring my Big PA System. Portable means you have a few people on a venue if you wanted loud why not just bring a Big PA?? to me this is completely nonsense when it comes to portable.
I have a cart so that doesn't matter to me. The BIG difference is the sound and room coverage (180 degrees vs 74-90 for a traditional speaker) and the sound is way better than any traditional speaker I've ever used. This is why I made the switch. Thanks for watching.
Do you plug in channel 3 of the bose or in the mic preamp 1&2?
I add an 15" or 18" sub with EVs. never had an issue with volume. I use a sub that has High & Full Pass connections, which sends all my lows to the external sub. (I ONLY USE FOR A SMALL/MEDIUM 100PPL WEDDING)
Cool thanks for the info.
The Evolve is unbeatable in "LIVE". That's the flatter configuration, where the 3.5-inch drivers do an excellent job in the mid frequencies. Far surpasses Bosé.
Are you using them as a live musician or DJ? If you're a guitar player like your profile pic suggests then then maybe the evolve are better fit for you. But for DJs there's no comparison the Bose win hands down in my opinion. Thank you for watching!
The EV is also wiggling though lol
Not nearly as much
Agreed. While the 50's column may be a bit sturdier, it's still vulnerable to being damaged by someone bumping into it. Really surprised either company hasn't addressed this. I get trying to keep costs down, but I'd gladly sacrifice a little more money for a sturdier column.
This is another good comparison video. EV- Electro Voice (owned by Bosch) and has German engineering behind it. However, the new Bose portable Llne array is getting good reviews, and from establishments that provide a sound system on the stage for bands that play. They too have given the Bose system good reviews. The Bose system also offers the 32 speaker Line array which I don't think any other company offers such a large portable Line Array system. Bose has reduced their speaker offerings recently, indstead focusing on a few high quality products, and not much in betwwen, or more "budget friendly" entry level systems. EV is a solid company, and have been known for their professional sound equipment.All in house design, and additional features like DSP allow for more configuration of the speakers. With Bose, it is less configurable, however few people disagree with the sound quality and the need for any adjustments. I think EV gets an edge with durability against the Bose. This is Bose's 2nd generation Line Array, and they have designed a system that is lighter in weight for ease of transportation. Whereas EV being heavier will also be more durable. But the newer Bose Line array is a contender.
Thanks for the input!
Another option for a sub cover for the 50M is this...
Tuki Padded Cover for $82.95
Thanks!
Honestly just so you know if you bought them from sweetwater you're all set as far as the best customer service in my opinion, but I bought several LD products and my friend bout the larger on and the sub was bad 0 customer service it took him 3 -4 months to straighten it out its a good thing our local dealer in Mass stood behind their products if not we would have been lost.This was a while ago
I've been djaying for over 25 years. Evole 50s are amazing. I played up to 400 people and never clipped. I, too, have qsc cp12, k12.2 and subs. I don't miss the weight. I have gotten a lot of compliments. I also never played a gig in full volume. My clients complain or become deaf . No complaints here on the Evole 50s
Yep, well all of my DJs use the EV 50s too so you're not alone. I just didn't care for the sound and lack of headroom compared to the Bose in my opinion. Thanks for watching.
I seriously doubt that you did a job with 400 people with the EV 50s the low end drops off quickly. When you start walking away from them they are in your face bass which is good if you’re up close but further back, it’s all mids and highs
Most of these portable array systems are not designed to produce booming bass. If you try that by adding bass using eq you will start to clip. This was also the case with my Evox system. So I use a 15 inch subwoofer along with them with the xover set at 100hz and the problem is solved. I get another 3 to 6 db from my Evox with the sub and also booming bass.
I already had that 15 inch sub sitting around so it has not been a big deal.
JPW thank you for the info, helps me a lot for doing small event sound.. now, I gotta know who did your radio promo intro!? I need to hire the guy!
Hi, thank for this review, i have pro16 for dj now two years and i love it, for the wobble, i have drawing and printing with tpu material a insert shim for the plastic insert and it remove more than 70% of the wobble
That sounds great can you share the info for that?
Can you please share this info?
@@jpwpro i send you a email
@@djmoevibez I designed it myself and printed it with my 3d printer with tpu material, it's not for sale now..... I find it a pity that Bose didn't just add a little reinforcement in the bottom section.. there maybe there is a reason, but what?
Can you share the wobble technique you have to reduce the wobble
Nice review and yep straight to the point and because of that a question if you don't mind ( cause I reckon you're gonna know the answer ! ). The Bose is great but boy there is a lot of negative stuff on the internet and I have had no issues at all and set up time is so quick ( just so you know ! ) . Soooo is it possible to put the 16 speaker tower onto my L1 8 pro as the sub is great and I have it turned down to minimum most of the time as it has proper power so I don't want to change it but more wattage and coverage would be a hoot ! ( whaddya reckon ) OH and not forgetting ( thanks )
Thanks for watching Kenny! That's an interesting question. Honestly I have now Idea but I will look into that. Keep you posted.
@@jpwpro Most kind old chap !
Great video brother! I never even thought about using Bose as a DJ speaker. I had EV Evolve 50s for 5 years and loved them. Looking to get a new set of Column speakers now so looking into the Bose and Maui systems. I like your reviews since it is more of a working man review!
I do a few weekly events, and when I switched from an EV point source system to the L1 pro 16, I received soo many compliments about the sound. I noticed it, but the fact that so many "normies" came up to me to tell me how great it sounded told me all I need to know...Cannot recommend the Bose line array enough.
I'm a solo musician in Australia, playing acoustic gigs and I also gig with backing tracks. I bought the Evolve 50 a few weeks ago to replace my old QSC k12 (12 years old) but I must agree with you and admit the Evolve 50 does lack headroom! I was a little disappointed with them to be honest. Acoustic gigs it was fine, but playing my guitar along with backing tracks at a pub, the unit started to struggle at almost full volume and still wasn't that loud. I'll still keep them and use them for small club gigs, small functions and gigs where space is tight, but I'm keeping my QSC K12's and subs for larger gigs in the future.
Don't you feel that the bose projects way less outdoors vs. the evolve? I think the bose sound quality is phenomenal but the dispersion makes it an indoor oriented speaker vs. an outdoor. I think the directionality of the evolve made it way better for a loud outdoor setting. Do you have any issues with lower volume on the bose? Maybe it's because I tried bluetooth on it
I haven'y used them outdoors. I have QSC K12.2 speakers I use outside for ceremonies. I don't like using the column style speakers for outdoor ceremonies because of the uneven ground usually in garden areas where we setup. Too hard to keep them level vs a traditional stand and speaker.
@@jpwpro I actually returned my bose l1 pro 16 after being disappointed with them outdoors in a park, the EV50 was great outside on a beach! If you get a chance, give it a test, I would love your opinion.
No headroom? you have something wrong..... they work great
I think you will be disappointed with that particular LD. There is also no head room like you were saying about the EV's. I think you might like the Dave 18 GX4 LD's. this is my next purchase.
I bought 2 pro 8s and the tower failed on both the ev 30m is built like a brick house 40 gigs in
Thank you helping me make my decision,now I just need to choose between the Bose and the JBL prx one.Have you by chance reviewed those yet? Awesome review by the way and keep em comin.
Yes I have. I was a long time JBL guy but I have to say the JBL PRX one is the worst of all the speakers. I do not recommend them at all
Totally agree Bose is way better and I have try both
Listen to both at Guitar Center and I think Bose has got be sending you some kickbacks to push them on your channel. It was clear why all the all the DJ’s you know are running the EV’s. I’m a LD guy myself and tried to convince myself to like the pro’s. Sounded ok but It’s just so wobbly and cheap feeling. The connectors in the columns look straight up made in Tawain. I do love my Bose headphones so I was expecting a lot more from the Pro’s.
Hey jpw pro bose l1 pro16 or jbl prx one while some say jbl could dig deeper in bass and which gives you better clarity
Why they not make other colours. I mean snow white looks terrible
Very helpful and I agree with 100%
Great and thanks for watching!
How many Bose S1 are comparable to a L1 pro eight, in terms of loudness? thank you very much.
so glad you said that about the headroom, that's the main reason I couldn't live with the m50s. was thinking im the only one who thought this.
Lol!!! Sounds just like a Glock baby, lol!!! The best thing about the EV is their ability to hold tone & clarity at every level, unlike the Bose that is solid at low to mid volumes but can’t touch the EVs top end. Yes, you can certainly push the EV to distortion, but you reach that floor at a considerably higher DB/SPL level. Just because the Bose limits distortion by squelching their overall volume at much lower levels just means they are designed to be used by amateurs who don’t know volume ends at clipping/distortion and this allllows them to turn it up to 11 and forget about it without damage. For smaller gigs or events that cater to spoken word or acoustic strings the Bose is a solid choice but in every other setting the Bose falls short, especially when you bring in the newer 50M. You might be able to make a case for the Bose if you were comparing it to the EV 30M, but only user error could make the 50M or 50 fail against the Bose in a blind head to head…
CONCORDO COM VC TENHO UM L1PRO8 e toco ao vivo com uma cantora bateria eletrônica e guitarra e. é. uma. desgraça o corte que essa porcaria de BOSE faz ao aumentar o volume quando voce toca com mais pegada. CAIXA EQUIPAMENTO SUPER CARO QUE NÁO TEM HEADROM ...EU NÁO CONHEÇO O EV50 MAS SEI QUE O BOSE CORTA O SOM SIM QUANDO voce precisa dar um punch. é uma desgraça náo importa a regulagem que vc faça dos níveis ate porque ele náo tem volume master
Use stanchions around your rig.
Thanks!
You’re welcome! Thank you for watching and donating 👍🏻
Who has the best reverb and vocal
Love your videos I also have the L1Pro 16 and I was wondering how do you keep them for clipping. I notice when I am playing music at times I see the red blinks on at times, I do I avoid that. Is there a setting I need to do on the L1 Pro 16. Would love know your thoughts.
Use TRS cable on chan3 for DJ mixer
@@DavidB_AudioTech Do not use XLR and use channel 3 & 4 instead on my controller
@@DavidB_AudioTech this confused me. Channel 3 on the pro16 is bluetooth. Just trying to understand the logic.
@@djkirk2854 What type of controller do you use? Have you tried an external mixer? What volume level do you have the Pro16 set at?
@@djmoevibez the chan3 is the gain channel for dj console, xlr chan1 and two is too high sensibility, try xlr to trs cable from your mixer or djconsole
Is this the 50 or the 50m?
50
Do you think the 50m would fare better?
@@vu3088 I don't think the 50m would be any different as far as sound goes, I think the 50m is more about having more mixing/input options.
i heard the same thing. great video :)
how did you get the bose as a collumn? i always see the setup next to eachother not on top
It depends on what model you are looking at, Bose L1 pro 8 and 16 have the column on top and the 32 has it on the side.
#teambose right here, love my l1 16’s. Great comparison!
I just heard them both side by side at Gitar Center and the EV 50 sounds better than the Bose. The EV 50 has a better top end and plays louder with good top to bottom end uniformity. The bose was laid back, softer sounding with a laid back top end and when pushed the speaker has compression that I didn't like. The EV 50 was better if you need to play it loud at times.
Thanks for your input, glad they work better for you. Thanks for watching.
Couldn’t disagree more after owning both. Mid’s & Highs we’re far better on the Bose.
Awesome review!!
Thank you!
I use the RANE FOUR and the Roland 707M and I only turn the Bose dial to four notch.
Demo please
Hi ! My L1 Pro 16 makes a buzzing noise even with no input connected. The noise only comes when inputs 1 and 2 are unmuted. I changed power source, used surge protector but no fix. Can you check if yours make the same noise? Noise started when volume is increased beyond 4 Led levels on input 1 and 2.
Wow, sorry to hear this. No I don't have that issue.
Try switching from unbalanced to balanced cables.
I am wondering peoples thoughts for singers vs DJ applications. I have sung through a pair of EV 50s at a small venue and owned a Pro 8 for a while - I always thought the Bose had a little more sweetness to it for vocal/acoustic instrument applications.
Great video. I think you are the first on UA-cam to compare the Bose Pro16 to the EV 50. Did you notice the better 180 degree throw on the Bose? I agree the mids on Bose are better but the high end on EV is more like your typical point source top with more clarity, but some say too much in your face can be fatiguing. Looking forward to that Maui 28 review.
Thanks for watching. Bose 180 is great for the room but not so great for the dj. 120 would have been better for my ears. The clarity on the Bose is unmatched so far with other speakers I’ve heard or used. But the Bose fragile build and road worthiness is very lacking. If I could have the Bose guts inside the EV shell that would be a perfect match IMHO✅
Got 3 wedding this weekend so I will have a good idea how the LD Maui 28s rank with these.
Please share with me I would life to reduce the wiggle as well. TY
The Evolve is unbeatable in "LIVE". That's the flatter configuration, where the 3.5-inch drivers do an excellent job in the mid frequencies. Far surpasses Bosé.@@jpwpro
EV’s more clarity? Not so after owning both. That’s one of the main points here. The EV is lacking in clarity.
Everyones ears are different. For me the whole Bose Pro line including the Pro32 has a rolled off top end. Thinking, because they don't use a dedicated tweeter. Specs show this by not reaching 20Hz like most PA's. Even if I max out the treble EQ, Bose still sounds recessed on the highs compared to QSC, JBL, RCF, EV.@@ronedwards8239
Bottom line is if you want a system that can get loud, with punchy bass buy the Evolve.
If you want a system that doesn't make you cover your ears when you walk buy but fills the room with even coverage and very rich bass then buy the Pro16.
You get what you pay for.
To be honest, if you're looking to purchase the Evolves, spend a little extra money and buy the Pro16s. Hands down the best column for sound, size, and weight.
I sure hope Bose is paying attention and watching these videos. I am hoping they redesign the column to make it more secure and sturdy. Thx for the video
I have both. EV has a way better sound but doesnt throw as far as bose. Bose has a smiley face eq and if ya wanna run a band thru it… well best of luck to you.
Not so. I owned both. EV’s mid’s and highs are muddy compared to the Bose. We also did a shoot out with another Pro, same result.
Sorry I totally disagree with the better sound. Bose sound is amazing. The Bose & LD Maui 28s both sound better than the EVs in my opinion. The only thing that EV is better at than Bose is the build quallity.