Picked up the Takara Fort Max in Japan last week, as far as I know now it's the only one in New Zealand. Had to completely rearrange my suitcase around it to get it back without paying for a second checked bag on the plane (upon realising it was way too big for carry on) - totally worth it :)
Fun fact, in the Titans Return cartoon by Machinima, when Optimus Prime and Fortress Maximus attacked Megatronus Prime, Fortress Maximus used a giant energy sword that looks very similar to the "Master Sword" that the Takara version comes with.
one thing better that the takara version has it plays the headmasters theme song the hasbro one doesnt, because i think hasbro might have lost the rights to the orginal g1 theme song
master5 gaming and other stuff how on earth could Hasbro lose the rights to their own song? Also, Hasbro Fort Max can play a little bit of the G1 theme if you hold his head down for about 5 seconds.
Thanks for the great review! I really like the Takara version much better. The face looks much bigger and more in proportion to the figure is one of the selling points for me. It's surprising to hear you say you liked Hasbro's better but that just shows that aesthetics is mostly subjective.
If Takara sells the mastersword on its own then hopefully that means they will sell a gift set of all the japanese heads. I really want that Cerebros head from Takara's..
actually the US version of cerebros *does* have a weapon. the little turret that the head master sits in in city mode can be taken out and used as a weapon for cerebros.
Actually, for me, I have his arms pointing straight up in his battle station/space cruiser mode. That way I can make use of the ramps on his arms (which of course are just the ramps from the legs of Generations Metroplex), otherwise they just go to waste as they have two sides to them. Plus it makes it feel a little more like G1's 'base' mode that way.
Also, you can't split the legs on the takara in half to make the more accurate, yet unofficial alternate base mode because takara decided to glue them. Why, I don't know.
Fortress: The School of the undefeated of the East! Cerebros: The winds of the King! Fortress: Zenshin! Cerebros: Keiretsu! Both: Tenpa kyoran! Both: LOOK! The east is Burning Red!!!
He's most likely talking about the cartoons. Fortress was the name of the tiny Master Cybertronian. Cerebros was only the name for the toys of the Japanese and RID 2001 little robot.
this comparison makes me glad I dropped the coin on the Comicon Fort Max from the hasbro shop. I think it has the best of both and some really sharp additional paint apps.
I was in dilemma about which i should get then when i heard the japanese voices and the headmaster theme which was basically my childhood show, i instantly wanted to get the takara version
@@pixelprime5908 wow after 4 years and yet you still active??? That is insane man!!!! And also if takara is going to make a masterpiece master sword transformer they better not blew up
I already have G1 Fortmax. So if I ever get a TR Fortmax, it will be the Hasbro version simply because it will be different enough to be worth it. It also look better IMO.
Jetfire48 However, you will pay an arm and a leg for that extra stuff. The Takara is way more expensive from the start and count a hefty shipping and custom fees. Basically, it come down to personal preferences and how your wallet can take it. As a G1 Fortmax and Gen Metroplex owner, I'll wait for the Hasbro to be on mad clearance. And if I miss it, oh well.
Late to this party but I have the SDCC version. Loved watching this vid as I never knew what actual differences. The SDCC is basically I mix of both. So I think I’m glad for the one I chose. Although I would’ve preferred cerebros face over fortress. Or just packed in both. Great vid my friend. All the best.
I have Metroplex, and just recently got Trypticon. I skipped on Fort Max...but now, I want one. Think I'll go with the Hasbro version. Although I really like the paint scheme of Takara...gotta admit there is something to the Hasbro version I like more. Only thing I'd like to switch is the leg cannons on his legs. I like the simple red guns compared to big blocks of red on his legs.
as someone who owns the anime/cartoon series the one without the face guard if gen 1 modeled.. the japanese variant is more or kannon and relates to a later series model given to different animation studios.. the later version is anime variant the older of the 2 is based from gen 2 transformers
...few things you missed because of the short video span, but one that actually needs correcting is the *sword being sold separately * by takara, this is false. Currently there are 3 ways to get a sword, you either buy the SDCC version (which is basically a hasbro repaint of the takara fort max, as in you get the "fortress" titan master over cerebros but is generally close to the hasbro version apart from the chest), you get the takara fort max, or you buy the hasbro fort max from selected toys R us in asia (well hong kong basically) and you get a limited edition sword with it, and out of the 3 swords this is the better one (SDCC has gold stickers and a black handle, we've seen takara's, and if you google "hasbro asia fort max sword" you see how much nicer that is). YOU CAN actually buy that later sword from certain sellers on ebay but I presume they either returned their fort max to capitalize on profits for the sword or are stolen because their prices are scalper tier (I'm sure I saw one for $80 at one point but ebay only has the 3rd party options as of now). BTW, for the third party options, you got the nice diecast one from perfect effect (won't come cheap) who are also making a gun, and another third party one has basically made the box art gun from hasbro fort max and...basically made a KO of the official sword, hopefully that'll be the cheapest option, I wish I gotten that one over the SDCC fort max, not worth the extra cost since it has the hasbro version's qc issues :c
I can actually see what they were going for in the city mode. It seems like it was supposed to be like you see a huge freaking city in the distance. I can't really explain it but I do see what they were trying to do.
It's from Beast Wars Uprising, intentionally different color scheme to the rebirth incarnation. TakaraTomy modelled theres on the Headmasters incarnation so it has the master sword, red eyes and blue antennae.
i'm 12 and now that i think of it, i feel the childish nostalgia of Fortress Maximus when i was 4; when i used to watch a G1 episode about 10 times before the other. *Smiles*
great review.just got the hasbro one and first titan class figure and loving it.the only complain is he doesn't have his gun.i dont want to take his knee guns off.he needs his own and i was the hasbro version did like the takara and added a small clip from the opening theme.that is the one thing i love over the hasbro one besides the massive beautiful master sword
Ok well i like takara version better only thing i would take from hasbro would be the head. But what i noriced that BOTH figures are lacking are the huge side canon's the G1 version used have which i loved back in the day and if i remember right didn't it also come with a little roller/tankish figure?
Was there any particular reason why you cut off the Takara Fort Max's sounds off? Like, you would move to the next sound a good second or so before it finished, which cut off whatever he was saying.
to bad they do not sell Cerebros (US) separate, I have the Generation 1 Fortress and not really looking for the whole thing but the US Cerebros would be cool to own (since he is more cartoon looking, with the head)
my favorite is black not grey black maximas because when you see in muvie incybertron in 1984 fortress maximas is the reallhead that color is black not grey
so hasbro figures are made in Taiwan for the US and Takara figures are made in? japan? does Takara have an overall better quality? where do the figures originate? Hasbro or Takara? can someone explain how it works? thanks
Does anyone else have the Takara version with a faulty sound chip? On mine, whenever the cartoon theme plays, it stops at random points and then all other clips do that too...!
I thought in Japan "Fortress" was the name of the Headmaster himself? His larger Transector bodies are just lifeless. "Cerebros" I'm sure was the G1 name for the body Spikes headmaster connected to before becoming Fort Max's head. I could be wrong though.
Not bad, I actually do like the Hasbro version's head for Cerebro and his robot-mode quite a bit. Takara's version wins out overall though. Erh... I do wonder just how heavy these combined are. o_O;;
"And now the Takara sounds."
>Headmasters theme immediately<
Perfection!
Gotta admit I was rocking out!
3:55 takara fort. Maximus sounds like the intro the transformers japanese series "the headmasters "!
Imagine if Takara and Hasbro combined their forces to make the ultimate figures
Chocoboba Fett they work together on figures already
Seige: hello there
@@chunky_kit-kat1343 Studio Series: howdey :))
Erm… does he not know
@@iblamerichey 6 years ago genius.
Picked up the Takara Fort Max in Japan last week, as far as I know now it's the only one in New Zealand. Had to completely rearrange my suitcase around it to get it back without paying for a second checked bag on the plane (upon realising it was way too big for carry on) - totally worth it :)
This Kiwi is incredibly jealous!
Fun fact, in the Titans Return cartoon by Machinima, when Optimus Prime and Fortress Maximus attacked Megatronus Prime, Fortress Maximus used a giant energy sword that looks very similar to the "Master Sword" that the Takara version comes with.
Japanese culture. Bushido.
eh I'm happy with my Hasbro fort max...
hears Headmasters theme.
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I'VE MADE A GRAVE MISTAKE!!!😭
I feel like if you took some parts from one and everything else from the other, you'd have the best possible setup
I was just thinking that
Like take the skyscraper from the takara version then take the mastersword and side bit, and put them on the hasbro one. Thats the best setup
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I'm not sure which one I want... *Hears Headmasters theme* Takara.
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one thing better that the takara version has
it plays the headmasters theme song
the hasbro one doesnt, because i think hasbro might have lost the rights to the orginal g1 theme song
master5 gaming and other stuff
master5 gaming and other stuff how on earth could Hasbro lose the rights to their own song? Also, Hasbro Fort Max can play a little bit of the G1 theme if you hold his head down for about 5 seconds.
i dunno, they lost the rights to use over a half of all the transformer character names for the toys
master5 gaming and other stuff that because they didn't use those names for a long time. If they don't use you trademarks, eventually lose them.
They had a snippet of the original theme song as an Easter Egg on the SDCC version of Fort Max.
Thanks for the great review! I really like the Takara version much better. The face looks much bigger and more in proportion to the figure is one of the selling points for me. It's surprising to hear you say you liked Hasbro's better but that just shows that aesthetics is mostly subjective.
If Takara sells the mastersword on its own then hopefully that means they will sell a gift set of all the japanese heads. I really want that Cerebros head from Takara's..
meowskull The SDCC version uses that mold instead of the G1 anime ("The Rebirth") mold that the regular retail one uses.
Check eBay or Amazon to see if they sell them separately
I say I want these figures then I realize WHERE WILL I PUT THEM
If you want a weapon meant for the US version of Cerebros, you can use the small turret as a handheld firearm
Or if you're like me and got the SDCC version just use the removable sword head.
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that's what I did; grabbed it when it went on sale. Best of both worlds!
Adam21 Plus pre-applied stickers!
right! Which was huge for me. Ain't nobody got time for dat!
So a headmaster that goes I into a headmaster that goes into a giant figure
actually the US version of cerebros *does* have a weapon. the little turret that the head master sits in in city mode can be taken out and used as a weapon for cerebros.
chase1146
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I want to thank you for doing a side by side of the two Fortresses. Have you put any thought into getting the ToyHax labels for one or both of them?
Actually, for me, I have his arms pointing straight up in his battle station/space cruiser mode. That way I can make use of the ramps on his arms (which of course are just the ramps from the legs of Generations Metroplex), otherwise they just go to waste as they have two sides to them. Plus it makes it feel a little more like G1's 'base' mode that way.
the master sword also comes with sdcc version of fortress maximus
Also, you can't split the legs on the takara in half to make the more accurate, yet unofficial alternate base mode because takara decided to glue them. Why, I don't know.
3:52 Said to myself "I bet it has a jingle baked in."
One thing you forgot to mention is that 2016 SDCC Fort Max comes with Master Sward and 2016 SDCC Emissary uses same head mold what Takara uses.
SDCC version feels like the best of both worlds for me.
Fortress: The School of the undefeated of the East!
Cerebros: The winds of the King!
Fortress: Zenshin!
Cerebros: Keiretsu!
Both: Tenpa kyoran!
Both: LOOK! The east is Burning Red!!!
Riley Tuthill what makes it awkard is the headmaster of fortress is called cerebros so fprtress headmaster is talking to a lifeless transector...
He's most likely talking about the cartoons. Fortress was the name of the tiny Master Cybertronian. Cerebros was only the name for the toys of the Japanese and RID 2001 little robot.
this comparison makes me glad I dropped the coin on the Comicon Fort Max from the hasbro shop. I think it has the best of both and some really sharp additional paint apps.
GinjiVitis though this comparison really wasn't fair both verisons need the stickers applied to look decent really
I was in dilemma about which i should get then when i heard the japanese voices and the headmaster theme which was basically my childhood show, i instantly wanted to get the takara version
look the east is BURNING RED!!
I hope people saw that in the profile pic
G GUNDAM!! YEAH!!
Cerebros was the original head for the Hasbro US Fortress Maximus. Spike eventually took over for and replaced Cerebros
TRANSFORMERS!!! TRANSFORMERS!!!
*dun dun dun*
HEADMASTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
The Legend of Zelda called they said that they're going to attack you with copyright infringement and they want their sword back
Why???
@@prime9908 Master sword
@@pixelprime5908 wow after 4 years and yet you still active??? That is insane man!!!! And also if takara is going to make a masterpiece master sword transformer they better not blew up
@@prime9908 well, the price probably will
At 9:45, what happened to your mic?
I hope Takara Tomy repaints this into Brave Maximus/Fortress Maximus from Car Robots/RID 2001.
I already have G1 Fortmax. So if I ever get a TR Fortmax, it will be the Hasbro version simply because it will be different enough to be worth it. It also look better IMO.
Le Kanraposte i would go with takara though it comes with more stuff mostly new stickers unlike the hasbro verison and etc
Jetfire48
However, you will pay an arm and a leg for that extra stuff. The Takara is way more expensive from the start and count a hefty shipping and custom fees.
Basically, it come down to personal preferences and how your wallet can take it. As a G1 Fortmax and Gen Metroplex owner, I'll wait for the Hasbro to be on mad clearance. And if I miss it, oh well.
Wow surprisingly you actually have improved and upped your quality in reviews again since the really horrible one I watched last year.
Late to this party but I have the SDCC version. Loved watching this vid as I never knew what actual differences. The SDCC is basically I mix of both. So I think I’m glad for the one I chose. Although I would’ve preferred cerebros face over fortress. Or just packed in both. Great vid my friend. All the best.
Amazing review bro!!! I can only imagine how much effort went into this video. Now I'm really torn about which version to get. I love both.
I've seen this guy with Repro lables on the US version. Its a HUG difference.
Spotted about three of them at Toys "R"Us in my area today. I made an impulse buy and bought one.
I highly doubt you will regret buying a fortress maximus figure, sadly for me I wouldn't have enough money to buy one if I wanted one.
@@Skrall-Slayer You'll find one someday at a very good price Liam legocat. 👌😊
TheMasterNo6 thanks for the positive attitude, it always makes me happy to read nice messages like yours!
Did you really have to use the "School of the Undefeated of the East" pose from G-gundam? that is brilliant
Yes he did, cause who doesn't like mobile fighter g gundam?
I have Metroplex, and just recently got Trypticon. I skipped on Fort Max...but now, I want one. Think I'll go with the Hasbro version. Although I really like the paint scheme of Takara...gotta admit there is something to the Hasbro version I like more. Only thing I'd like to switch is the leg cannons on his legs. I like the simple red guns compared to big blocks of red on his legs.
Its a battle of gigantic proportions.
dude you really should of applied the stickers on them also why not use top coat to keep them on?
as someone who owns the anime/cartoon series
the one without the face guard if gen 1 modeled..
the japanese variant is more or kannon and relates to a later series model given to different animation studios..
the later version is anime variant the older of the 2 is based from gen 2 transformers
...few things you missed because of the short video span, but one that actually needs correcting is the *sword being sold separately * by takara, this is false.
Currently there are 3 ways to get a sword, you either buy the SDCC version (which is basically a hasbro repaint of the takara fort max, as in you get the "fortress" titan master over cerebros but is generally close to the hasbro version apart from the chest), you get the takara fort max, or you buy the hasbro fort max from selected toys R us in asia (well hong kong basically) and you get a limited edition sword with it, and out of the 3 swords this is the better one (SDCC has gold stickers and a black handle, we've seen takara's, and if you google "hasbro asia fort max sword" you see how much nicer that is).
YOU CAN actually buy that later sword from certain sellers on ebay but I presume they either returned their fort max to capitalize on profits for the sword or are stolen because their prices are scalper tier (I'm sure I saw one for $80 at one point but ebay only has the 3rd party options as of now).
BTW, for the third party options, you got the nice diecast one from perfect effect (won't come cheap) who are also making a gun, and another third party one has basically made the box art gun from hasbro fort max and...basically made a KO of the official sword, hopefully that'll be the cheapest option, I wish I gotten that one over the SDCC fort max, not worth the extra cost since it has the hasbro version's qc issues :c
Thank you for this review!!
I can actually see what they were going for in the city mode. It seems like it was supposed to be like you see a huge freaking city in the distance. I can't really explain it but I do see what they were trying to do.
I had this weird mental image of Hasbromaximus punching Takaramaximus in the face, knocking him out, and stealing the sword. This amuses me... heh.
If they fuse them together then it would be epic
U.S version of fortress maxims looks like the 2001 Transformers Rid version than G1.
Eram Ferguson not really have you seen brave maximus in a while
It's from Beast Wars Uprising, intentionally different color scheme to the rebirth incarnation. TakaraTomy modelled theres on the Headmasters incarnation so it has the master sword, red eyes and blue antennae.
i'm 12 and now that i think of it, i feel the childish nostalgia of Fortress Maximus when i was 4; when i used to watch a G1 episode about 10 times before the other. *Smiles*
So glad I got the SDCC version.
Yeah, same here. Got it, as soon as i saw it.
WHY DOES TAKARA MAKE BETTER VERSIONS OF THE HASBRO VERSIONS?! 🔥🔥🔥
Because the Takara versions are revisions of the Hasbro versions done in cartoon accurate color schemes.
@@ManOutofTime913 oof
It would be very cool if we could have a Titans return Armada Tidal Wave
Darkazon we supposedly are but its going to be a retool of broadside thanks via transmissions podcast
Darkazon it would be even cooler if we one day get a Titan Class TidalWave.
StarGazer The First Yep!
Swap the leg guns between them so the takara version has the solid red frames and they would both look better I think.
I want them to make a Titan return star screen
As I watched this my fort max fell and hit me on the head. Yeah he's not a light guy.
If I had to choose I would choose the Takara version, it looks a lot better.
Was that a G Gundam reference at the beginning?
LOOK THE EAST IS BURNING RED(couldn't help my-self)
great review.just got the hasbro one and first titan class figure and loving it.the only complain is he doesn't have his gun.i dont want to take his knee guns off.he needs his own and i was the hasbro version did like the takara and added a small clip from the opening theme.that is the one thing i love over the hasbro one besides the massive beautiful master sword
I want the hasbro version
one fun fact is that you can take out the gun on the right of the tower and use it as a weapon for cerebros
Both are cool as hell
Maybe I'll just get the Takara one and see if I can get a Hasbro Cerebros w/Spike by itself later on evilBay or ScAmazon.
So what you are saying that you should get both of them then take them apart and combine the best parts of both?
I just realised the LG31 Takara Tomy Fortress Maximus is missing the cannon on the tower when turned into the battleship mode. Strange.
I prefer the Takara release because it’s more accurate to headmasters. And I prefer how Japan handled the headmasters
It was Cerebros in the 80's comic as well
Ok well i like takara version better only thing i would take from hasbro would be the head. But what i noriced that BOTH figures are lacking are the huge side canon's the G1 version used have which i loved back in the day and if i remember right didn't it also come with a little roller/tankish figure?
Was there any particular reason why you cut off the Takara Fort Max's sounds off? Like, you would move to the next sound a good second or so before it finished, which cut off whatever he was saying.
Tamara version plays = soundtrack.
Lol I laugh hard, wasn't expecting a soundtrack.
The hunch back of emmessary-don
04:01 Ok I gotta admit that's cool. :D
I am just gonna get the Hasbro because I see Hasbro products a lot more
What's missing in both versions was the drone, Cog.
Let's face it, Scoponok is the only City Bot with three Decent modes. Come on, HasTak! I only need him to complete the City Bot set...
Can the figure transform into a turret like the original?
How did you get him to say emissary???? Mine just did it and it played a song I haven't heard in any reviews!!
to bad they do not sell Cerebros (US) separate, I have the Generation 1 Fortress and not really looking for the whole thing but the US Cerebros would be cool to own (since he is more cartoon looking, with the head)
CHASEMARC who says they won't they could sell him as a headmaster with bumblebee
Jetfire48 Takara could, yes. Hasbro Bumblebee is already out and he has no Headmaster.
+Jarmo Verrit we can always hope for a platinum edition
HasTak should make downscaled versions of big figs for ppl who aren't willing to splurge $400 on a hunk of dopamine plastic.
It's more like a front gate/checkpoint for transformers to pass before getting to Titan Metroplex
How did you afford both of them?!?!
The only words I remember from the Headmasters theme song was HEAD ON.
my favorite is black not grey black maximas because when you see in muvie incybertron in 1984 fortress maximas is the reallhead that color is black not grey
Metroplex sure does try much harder in carrier mode.
What is your favorite combiner so far
a quick picture on the next video whit the stickers on both just for comparasion
Can anyone confirm if Takara is, in fact, selling the Master Sword separately?
8:25 Its a shuttle. And why? Fortress Maximus is a space battle station.
mix and match parts from each. make the best version possible.
so hasbro figures are made in Taiwan for the US and Takara figures are made in? japan? does Takara have an overall better quality? where do the figures originate? Hasbro or Takara? can someone explain how it works? thanks
Westley Cathcart They're made in the exact same factories. The figures are designed by both Takara and Hasbro cooperatively.
I don’t understand. The battle ship mode is perfect. Haven’t you watch the Headmaster series
you could mix and match parts to make one really good one and one not so good one maybe?
is hasbro the official counter part of the transformer line of toys in america?
Yes.
DID YOU JUST SAY SVIWEL?!? SVIWEL HERE Jobbythehong would be proud
I have one question can you still buy metroplex anywhere
do u think bbts will more takara version
Does anyone else have the Takara version with a faulty sound chip? On mine, whenever the cartoon theme plays, it stops at random points and then all other clips do that too...!
Am I the only one who likes the battleship mode more than the city mode? Everyone seems to hate it.
I thought in Japan "Fortress" was the name of the Headmaster himself? His larger Transector bodies are just lifeless. "Cerebros" I'm sure was the G1 name for the body Spikes headmaster connected to before becoming Fort Max's head. I could be wrong though.
Not bad, I actually do like the Hasbro version's head for Cerebro and his robot-mode quite a bit. Takara's version wins out overall though. Erh... I do wonder just how heavy these combined are. o_O;;
Hey belt have you seen mobile suit gundam iron blooded orphans?