Why some Single ovens can be plugged in some need to be wired in ?
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- Опубліковано 13 січ 2017
- A Video Shot at Ruislip Appliances Ltd , 112-116 Pembroke Road Ruislip Manor Middx HA4 8NW , Telling you why some Single ovens can run on a 13amp Plug top but some single ovens need to be hard wired in. if your oven as a rule is below 3000w (3.0 KW) it can be plugged in above the 300w (3.0KW) you need to hard wire the oven into either a 20amp supply or a 32amp Supply.
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Informative. Thanks. The point I took from this is that it's important to check whether the existing oven is plugged into the 13amp circuit or has a dedicated 30amp hard wired supply prior to buying a replacement oven.
My oven has both, dedicated 32amp circuit on consumer unit connected to plug socket, the 3.2kw oven has a 13amp plug fitted so it can be plugged into the 32amp socket. Seems to work ok.
Great explanation and as you say probably the most common question asked
Thank you. Made my life a lot easy. Now I know what kind of oven I need to buy.
Thank you, very important information simplified!
Nicely explained and made sense cheers
Very good video clear my doubts at the end of the video.
Thanks for the clear and concise explanation
Good stuff, I think most modern homes will have a dedicated circuit fitted specifically for an oven.
Very informative. Is it ok to have a spur from the cooker connection to a socket to connect the cooker. Or can you cut off the plug and hardwire it to the cooker connector
Thanks for advice it was useful
Thank you, very helpful.
i live inn a smal appartement inn Norway and i hav a problem wit the oven i plug it inn and after 1 minute the braker stops i have just the standard plug for norway i don haw nofing for the oven so i conet it to the wall outlet and the power of the apartment is
un 230V
in 16A
i♦n 0,03A
B16
help wat to do?
and sory for my english.
Thanks for advice
We have a Beko 2.3KW oven, can I supply this from the back of the Socket to a flex fused spur unit ( for isolation) The diouble socket is near to the oven but I would like to keep this socket free thus hard wiring into the back of the socket!!
Cheers.
can you do a video on how to hard wiring a new neff oven
so a cooker at 2850 w could be made part of a ring circuit then?
What about the Spanish 25amp oven plug? Could uk and ireland adopt that?
Thanks,just what I needed!
We have to replace an oven, which is a double oven,, with a single cheaper version quickly, can we just hardwire that cable into to new oven,or is there an issue with fusing etc,
So am. I right I can't get a pyrolytic oven that can be plugged straight in? Because I can't have hard wired due to renting. And the plug socket goes on the entire kitchen sockets. (the hob is hard wired but the oven is just a plug and housing said I have to pay them £300 for rewiring and not paying that when I rent)
I was always on the understanding that if an appliance DIDN'T come with a plug, it had to be wired in (Plug & Sockets regulation), irrespective of power rating?
The best advise for oven installation ever
Hi, my current oven is hardwired in, to a 13amp circuit. My new oven is also 13 amp!
So i can simply just isolate, and wire in the replacement?? cheers
My 2700 w oven is hardwired directly from its terminal to a 32a mcb at the board. I'm changing it for another cooker and giving the old one away. That person wants to connect a 1.5sqmm cable and plug and plug it into a 13a socket on his normal socket circuit. Is this safe /allowed?
10A is recommended for old and unknown Schuko sockets and plugs.
Permanent 16A is only possible if the socket and plug are new, solide and from a good manufacturer.
The French even allow 20A on the 2.5mm² wire.
Can you let me know what a flavel milano ml61cds needs, can it be plugged in? I can't find the rating plate or whatever.
My oven got 5 core cable.. how to fit into 3 terminal Uk plug (moffit brand)
Hi! i live in The States. Does this mean my 20 amp circuit breaker in my 110 volt AC home can run this 3000w 13amp beauty oven of yours? I'm also assuming there's a switch in the back to back down the voltage from U.K. 220 to USA 110 volt.
Hi, thanks for the information. I have a Zanussi single oven, rated 2.480 kw.
Does this mean I can attach a 13 amp plug to it as the electrician left a socket behind where the oven is situated.
ha we just did and it popped the fuse, it needs to be into the oven only fuse
Can I hardwire a plug in cooker to a 14 am wall switch
Good information.
Can a plug in oven be converted to hard wire?
So would you wire your built in ovens in 6mm flex if it's been connected to a 6mm cooker circuit
can i wire a cooker hob on its own to a plug it state 32 hardwired so what do I do please
Will a modern stand alone single oven work off a 16 amp circuit or do you need to charge out the circuit breaker on the consumer unit for a 32 amp circuit breaker ? Thanks.
The cable rating and size is more important than the 'circuit breaker'. Ib
Hi we want to install two Neff B57CR22N0B ovens above each other. Do we need an trim kit or something between the top of one and the bottom of the other or will they fit nicely to each other without a gap?
Trial fit both, if the top does touche the top edge of the bottom unit use that cheap hard boad to raise the top or upper unit ... Apperance is the factor most will pick up upon, if your stacking two singles youll need to line up the top of the upper oven with furniture doors but
1 ensure youve got the appropriate electrical outlets
2 ensure you create a ventilation route behind both units going up to the top of the cabinet they are in
3 plan the kitchen lay out , whats next to the oven units on both sides ... Keep fridges at least 200mm away from heat producing appliances it causes the fidge to overwork ...and shortens its life .
Thank you
is the wattage based on bake mode for plug in or is broiler mode to be considered?
I will now sleep tonight,thanks!
Are there any Oven/Hobs that you can plug into a 3 pin socket?
Oven 3100W = 240V x 13A OK for a 3 pin plug.
Hobs / Cookertop 7200W = 240V x 30A = 2x 230V x 16A = or Three-phase 400V: 2 hot wire a 16A to N;
(Three-phase 230V 3 hot are need, no N, only old systems in Belgium)
Can this oven be plugged into a double socket with a 13amp plug in induction hob or is it too many amps for a double socket?
I am replacing a 3,600Watt Neff oven with a 3,300Watt Neff oven. The existing oven was installed by a qualified electrician who installed a dedicated consumer unit for the purpose. Will I be able to transfer the connector from the old oven on the new one?
Hi what size cable do you use for a fan oven to the plug 13amp,thanks
4mm
It should be NEW modern spec wireing has to be used when any oven is installed re using old cable requires the cables resistence being confirmed which not every one can do , its also acceptable that a competent person can do this as long as the correct supply is provided and safety checks are perform before and after the install
Hence why my oven has an 13 amp plug and the hob above is hard wired wired into a 60 amp circuit .
Can this just be plugged in to a double socket on top of the worktop?
Not advisable, create a dedicated FCU spur from the ring
The answer is ... I would not advise you to do so
1 there could be damage caused to the electrical cable as it passes between the different materials along the route.
2 the heat could damage the cable if its too close ...
It involves a cost but if you love your home and those in it get a sparkie to create a suitable electrical outlet
Thanks guys🤔
Hi my old oven a Baumatic BO622SS (2000-2350W) is actually wired into a cooker point even though the user manual says it’s 13 amp.
It has broken down and needs to be replaced under extended warranty . I have been given options for replacement Ovens which all come with a 13am cable. Please can you tell me if I need to get the cooker point changed to a 13amp socket
No you can hard wire it as long as the hard wiring is big enough to take the wattage,
Hi I have just purchased a Smeg 70cm dual fuel cooker it’s 3.0 kw can I use a plug or do I need it hard wired?
The model is C7GPX8 it does not say in any of the info we received and has a 2 foot wire coming out of the back with three wire like you would attach to a plug?? Can anyone help please?
Look at video at 1min 3w or over Hard wired.
I need a wire connector please so I can move the oven without hard wiring it please?
if you already have a hard wired cooker and replace it with one with a plug, what do you do with the existing hard wiring.?
Thanks for the question. You don't need to do anything with the existing wiring you can simply connect directly to the hard wiring. When you fit an oven that is rated to work on a 13amp plug it is always recommended the oven is hard wired with an isolation switch. I hope this helps.
+RuislipAppliances thank you. so best to get an electrician to take off the plug and attach the cable of the new oven to the existing hard wiring.
I would advise this is the best action for you to take.
RuislipAppliances my new hot point oven came with plug attached but on plate it says220-240v~50/60hz 3,65kw can I plug this in or does it need to be hard wired
Good afternoon,
Thank you for your comment. 2 parts to this 1st the oven should not have arrived with a fitted plug. 2nd a 3.65Kw total connected load will need to be hard wired as this will draw 16amps.
What type of wire will I require? .My oven manual states it can either be hardwired or plug in. I intend to plug in for now but eventually it will be hardwired. It’s a new oven but didn’t come with any wire. Would it be 13amp 3 core ? Does it need to be heat resistant? Thanks
Recently bought Hotpoint oven rated 3.65kw but fitted with 13A moulded plug. This is to replace NEFF rated at 2.8kW which was hard wired with heavier gauge wires. Didn't make sense. Hotpoint replied that the rating plate states 3.65kW, but this on;y applies if all oven functions running at same time. They said this is not possible, hence adequacy of 13A plug. Make sense to anybody? What's the point of rating an oven above the full load that it could ever draw?
hi Paul, this is odd to say the least! , was it hotpoint themselves who said it? perhaps just ask them to put it in writing to you as your insurance company wants a copy to put on file next to your household policy, that usually focuses there attention....
I tell you more. These come with 1.5mm² flex cable. How it come then. You fitting 45A mcb for what ?
@@RuislipAppliances could you give me the link to that oven chart you mentioned
We have listed Some ovens on our Website that are 13amp www.ruislipappliances.com/products.cgi?Search=13+amp
My plug in oven is 3.5 kw is it suitable for hard wiring
has to be hard wired
My neff 2.9kw oven was wired into a 2.5mm cable and 20 amp breaker. It tripped more than once. Assume oven faulty. Any views. ?
Are you sure this oven can be 13 amp , my electrician has hardwired ?? Confused
Is the hob wired into the same cable
Depends on what else you've got on that circuit.
Surely if the oven comes with a plug it’s good to go?
I think you might have totally misunderstood the entire point of this video.
Some come with a plug,some need hardwired due to their higher rating than the 13 Amp a plug in is restricted to.
@@brownwarrior6867 Might have, so if there’s no plug you’ve got to hardwire it and if there’s a plug you plug it in. Unless I’m missing something then you plug in the plug, you wouldn’t attempt to take the plug off and hard wire it?
@@BenDover-ln6ns why carnt you hard wire it ,,who would want a plug in cooker ,when not enough plug sockets,wish they would keep everything the same ,it's just made my job of buying a cooker a lot harder,so now I have to look for one that doesn't have a bloody plug on
" Batteries not included " , oh boy welcome to the 21st century .
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We live in the 21 first century and need to get an electrician in the home to wire up the oven and hob. They send satellites into space, they have Rovers on Mars, and yet they are not capable of producing a higher voltage plugin system for a home appliance such as a oven. In Industrie they have high voltage connections or plugs for machines which are running day and night, if you told them when they bought the machine that it needed wired up to the wall, they would have laughed their bollocks off. Its 2019 not 1819 , people are inventing more complicated things than a plug to connect the oven. Someone could make a fortune if they did.
Well, you should make sure your 13Amp socket really does grip the plug. Its here where problems occur at full power. Plugs will get hot and over time you could get worse. You wont get this problem with hard wiring. If you use cheap sockets then expect problems. Have you ever felt the plug on an electric fire thats been on full power after an hour, hot.
I have to agree David blame the E.U.We have to blame somebody.
I’m pretty sure that the huge drives they use in industry for rolling steel, don’t come with a socket on them. 🙄
@@simonwtkns1 Of course they don't, you are right and yet here in this country where I live, we still have to get an electrician to fix the oven to the wall, where there is a connection point, but its not a socket as such to plug in the oven with a simple plug, its a connection point with a connection to wire at least 5 wires from the oven to the wall and which an electrician is required to do, well so they say ;)
@@wearsider There’s a reason though. Household ring main sockets have a rating of 13amps maximum. That’s just about 3kW. That means anything above that cannot use the ring main.
In write things are different. They tend to use spurs. Some of their connector types are rated more than 13amps subsequently.
Please note, it’s not higher voltage. It’s higher current drawn from that same voltage.
When I was a kid and we had new oven and it was supplied with a cable and a socket (alien to the UK).
My father removed the socket and cable and replaced it with 40amp cable. For years I couldn’t understand how it could have possibly been safe to plug this oven in via a socket in Europe. It’s only on later years that I realised that in Europe both the cable and socket was rated higher than 13amps. However our system doesn’t exist for anything higher than 13amps and lower than 40amps, which was why we had to replace what looked like tiny cabling in comparison to the 40amp we had to use.
My oven just has a plug
I wish this was a visual tutorial instead of a verbal 😢
You should hardwire Neff Ovens into a FCU (Fused Connection Unit) with heat resistant flex (Type H05 V V-F or a higher rating). Only a licensed professional may connect the appliance. In the installation, there must be an all-pin isolating switch with at least 3 mm contact gap. This must remain accessible after installation, above the worktop.
Vax Buster hi, can you furnish me with a link to the regs that state this ?
Yep that's what it says in the instructions manual exactly I believe. So you would think best to follow that. My electrician came round fitted a 20 amp fuse connected my neff to this with 2.5 mm cable blah blah. After few tests the oven kept tripping. Although oven was brand new, I'd had it lying around for no. Of years. Gutted it didn't work. Any idea why didn't work ? The instructions don't explain in detail exactly how to fit the oven. I think the manufacturers give little info as they expect electrician to do it and, know what they doing. I'm having to presume oven is faulty.
@@Listermintsluesh hi a man from ao told me I could only have a cooker 20amp and needed 4mm cable. I have a 32amp fuse box/bourd can I have a cooker single oven 32 amp plus I have a hard cable thing in the wall. please help
Thank you