Joscha Bach, Yulia Sandamirskaya: "The Third Age of AI: Understanding Machines that Understand"

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  • Опубліковано 24 гру 2024

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  • @tbossert6624
    @tbossert6624 2 роки тому +9

    I’m devostated, that I missed this event! Joscha Bach on a talk in Germany!? Damn! It is always a great pleasure, listening to his extremely intelligent interpretations of our world.

    • @drmedwuast
      @drmedwuast 2 роки тому

      just thought the same. Deutsches Museum is like 12 minutes from my house, damn

    • @uwepleban3784
      @uwepleban3784 2 роки тому

      Same here. Frankfurt is just a few hours away, and this event would definitely have been worthwhile.

  • @mgg4338
    @mgg4338 2 роки тому +25

    Joscha, why don't you have your own channel where you interview people, like Lex Friedman?! You are a great interviewer!

    • @MiniV826
      @MiniV826 2 роки тому +4

      Because he's busy

    • @e555t66
      @e555t66 2 роки тому +3

      He would be so bored if he did that. I wish there were better people to interview him.

    • @mgg4338
      @mgg4338 2 роки тому

      @@e555t66 well, imagine Joscha interviewing Elon Musk, Erik Weinstein, John Carmack, Lee Cronin, Edward Snowden, Richard Dawkins, Roger Penrose, Stephen Wolfram, Douglas Hofstadter...

    • @e555t66
      @e555t66 2 роки тому

      @@mgg4338 If he interviews them it would be unusable for us.

    • @BenReierson
      @BenReierson 2 роки тому +4

      I just want him to have a standing invitation on lex every six months.

  • @davidw8668
    @davidw8668 2 роки тому +3

    Pretty cool presentations. Love how both fight with constructive and clever arguments in the discussions in the second part. Great discourse

  • @BaccaratKingmaker
    @BaccaratKingmaker 7 місяців тому

    Support Vector Machine (SVM) is a supervised machine learning algorithm that is used for classification and regression tasks. It works by finding the hyperplane that best separates different classes in the feature space. SVM aims to maximize the margin between the hyperplane and the nearest data points from each class, making it effective for both linearly separable and non-linearly separable data. If you have any specific questions or need more details about SVM, feel free to ask!

  • @silberlinie
    @silberlinie Місяць тому

    I think that there is one underlying principle
    that we should take into account.
    All paths are open to us.
    However, what we have as an absolute basic
    idea, as an unquestionable iron paradigm,
    a guideline, a driving force, a maxim, an
    axiom is:
    we are looking for the machines that watch
    over us and our behavior with loving grace.

  • @Telencephelon
    @Telencephelon Рік тому +1

    I love this talk It shows the inherent biases of Josch Bach. She makes a perfect point here: 44:19
    She is much deeper in the research it seems

  • @curtiso779
    @curtiso779 2 роки тому +2

    That lecture theatre looks so chill

  • @buh357
    @buh357 2 роки тому +10

    what is on joscha´s neck?

    • @randompal9828
      @randompal9828 2 роки тому +1

      Something to hold another something similar to a mask

    • @dstart1
      @dstart1 2 роки тому

      @@randompal9828 What?

    • @primetimedurkheim2717
      @primetimedurkheim2717 2 роки тому +5

      It's a face shield holder. You place a plastic shield in it to protect from bees. Joscha is extraordinarily phobic of bees.

    • @nategibso
      @nategibso 2 роки тому +5

      Respiray Wearable Air Purifier

    • @madzubmetler
      @madzubmetler 2 роки тому +4

      His head.

  • @benjaminandersson2572
    @benjaminandersson2572 2 роки тому +8

    59:37 eerily similar facial expression to Bach:s

  • @waynewells2862
    @waynewells2862 Рік тому +2

    Great constructive back and forth! Genesis interpretation though speculative rang true with me. We often do not give credit to our ancestors or other life forms for that matter.

  • @buh357
    @buh357 2 роки тому +1

    I would stand with Joscha and work with him regarding simulation and algorithm instead of hardware,
    because our brain is hardware with an extremely flexible algorithm,
    I would love to know what algorithm could be self-ware and human-like intelligent

    • @marneninagavenkat7149
      @marneninagavenkat7149 2 роки тому +1

      Nested feedback loops of regulations.

    • @daarom3472
      @daarom3472 Рік тому

      our brain isn't hardware, its liveware. The physical properties of our brain are constantly being changed which is incomparable to how computers work.

  • @MichaelSmith420fu
    @MichaelSmith420fu Рік тому

    @1:08:15... ya?

  • @guillermobrand8458
    @guillermobrand8458 Рік тому +1

    What is behind the word “understand”?
    There is an Agent, an entity credited with the ability to understand.
    Information is involved, and information processing. Information processing “leads” from “not understanding” to “understanding”.
    There is a "something" that is understood
    That "something" is coherent in itself, which implies generating a model and validating it.
    Validation is associated with certainty
    There is a process associated with the ability to understand; that is, we can speak of “the action of understanding”. All action takes place in the present
    What is understood, at the same time is learned. Learning is capable of being stored. Eventually, stored learning is likely to be "recalled."
    The information associated with "understanding" is limited to a specific segment of "reality".
    In every action of understanding there is an input of information, a "reading of information", information that is part of the aforementioned "segment of reality".

  • @pinkpalmsmusic
    @pinkpalmsmusic 2 роки тому +1

    This is so goddamn interesting.

  • @CultivationPath
    @CultivationPath 2 роки тому +1

    The fact that the Lists on the Screen started with (1) and not with (0) was a huge missed oportunity

  • @Igor_Zdrowowicz
    @Igor_Zdrowowicz 2 роки тому +1

    51:10 brutal.

    • @stretch8390
      @stretch8390 Рік тому

      Do you know what kind of simulations Joscha is referring to writing at that time stamp?

  • @marianpalko2531
    @marianpalko2531 2 роки тому

    34:37

  • @smartbart80
    @smartbart80 Рік тому

    AC broke?

  • @Bonn5656
    @Bonn5656 2 роки тому

    Wow, Joscha in the different level thhan Yulia. Like the rest that he talks to. Amazing video, tnx!!

  • @mgg4338
    @mgg4338 2 роки тому +1

    I like the idea of hardware and software as two opposite paths converging toward the mind, but it feels like a dog and his owner trying to meet halfway across a wide river. The first swims, the second uses a speedboat...

  • @spectator5144
    @spectator5144 Рік тому

    wow

  • @tedchapple
    @tedchapple Рік тому +1

    Elon needs to hire both of these people and give them lots of money. Joscha should lead the software AI team and Yulia should lead the robotic hardware team. I think that would be the fastest and maybe the only way to achieve fully functional self driving cars and that would lead directly to really useful Teslabots.

    • @snarkyboojum
      @snarkyboojum 6 місяців тому

      What software has Joscha written that would qualify him for such a role?

  • @snarkyboojum
    @snarkyboojum 6 місяців тому

    This is probably going to be a confrontational take, but I find Bach’s takes to be quite derivative. I hear many others peoples views packaged up and replayed by him when he speaks on a topic but I don’t ever hear anything truly original from him. I’d rather listen to thinkers like Deutsch, LeCun, Chollet and even Wolfram (god forbid).

  • @mayhemposser7635
    @mayhemposser7635 2 роки тому

    disney universe 3

  • @Gattomorto12
    @Gattomorto12 Рік тому

    1

  • @paxdriver
    @paxdriver 2 роки тому

    We know a lot about algebra, and engineering, and materials, but compared to every other field of science what we know about how the brain works is as little as a dog knows about how a car works. They know it moves and they can move inside of it, but a dog has no clue the essence of a car's manufacturing, financing, driver training, supply chain, road rules, etc.
    We know the brain uses compartments and hormones and synapses but we don't know f all about the emergence of conscious experience which is everything as far as intelligence or emergent organizational self-assembling structures are concerned.
    We are objectively ignorant of the brain relative to everything else we've studied in the universe. The brain isn't at all we understood, it is just heavily studied but that doesn't mean it's well known or mapped. Most things are well understood by being this heavily studied, but the brain is an anomaly. Just because we've put the effort in doesn't mean we've succeeded. We don't even understand disorders or medications like antidepressants at a mechanical level yet, despite our studies and prescriptions over the past 3 decades. Compare that to any other field, 3 decades is a whole new branch of study most other bodies of science. Machine learning has come farther in 30 years than neurology relative to where it began 30 years ago.

  • @Mramidu
    @Mramidu 2 роки тому +3

    Josha need to stick to AI and leave genesis/religion alone. He completely miss the mark. Genesis is a symbolic pattern that can't be comprehend thru scientific thinking

    • @ShpanMan
      @ShpanMan 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, it's funny that he gives so much importance to something written by cave people...

    • @Eziolise
      @Eziolise 2 роки тому +5

      🙄 y’all would make terrible scientists

    • @christopherhamilton3621
      @christopherhamilton3621 2 роки тому +1

      Nonsense… He’s right to ridicule clearly idiotic ideas.

  • @GingerBalls999
    @GingerBalls999 2 роки тому +6

    14:46
    lmfao wtf the way he drinks