Control station switched to other side? Good or bad?
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In two/three years of development, this young girl has matured into a very interesting and quite eloquent speaker! Proper young woman now! Nice! Cheers
What happens with robot and board of sawmill machine? Good morning translate English language American for you 🙏🏾👍🏾💪🏾❤❤
I was the takeaway man on a woodmiser when the blade broke, shrapnel flying, luckily I didn’t get hit.
Remember, what you are doing is setting an example for others. You are on a learning curve and doing quite well. Experience is usually the best teacher . We enjoy watching,learning and having fun with you . Hopefully, Woodmizer will use you and Jade in their promo about their equipment. Stay safe, happy and healthy.
They are young, why do they have to set an example for anyone? I don't think that they are there to be a teaching moment. Great girls, they work their butts off. Hope dad provides them with a better work environment. I won't hold my breath as he has had them working in freezing weather and high heat, now rain for quite some time.
OK, I must say this. Since you first set up that mill I"ve said you're in the wrong place. Lots of experience with mills and logging, I would move your controls to the side of the mill so you are positioned in the corner with the live deck on your right and Jade on your left. Put the controls to the left of the end of the log so you're facing the mill outfeed table and about in the middle of the outfeed table. This will allow you to have everything visible around you. You control everything!! You're the sawyer!! A small shack with windows right, left, and front allow you to see everything and protect the saw.
This is how regular sawmills are arranged and it really works well as this has been the arrangement for well over 100 years. Please try this as you will be very pleased. This will cure most of your operational issues. Pete.
I've seen a lot of mills and have never seen one set up like this either. I wouldn't like the saw coming toward me all day, seems dangerous. It would be great if someone from Woodmizer would come by and explain why that is the better setup. However I'm sure that's not going to happen.
If the bandsaw ever hits some larger piece of metal, like a horseshoe, the sawyer could be in some danger. The box they are talking about building would help I suppose, but I don't like the setup at all. I've seen too much over the years. Hard to believe they let her stand down there with no protection.
@@WPA33SC Dad, boss man, reads the comments, so it is good you both wrote. He does not always follow our suggestions though. LOL
@@WPA33SCfirst time I’ve ever seen a mill controls for the far end , myself I would move the controls to the head end . 👍🇨🇦
@@cameronhamer9432 The band saw they use is only a fraction the width and length they use in larger mills. So that's a plus in their favor. However I've seen the larger saws break in half, split, throw teeth, and go in crazy directions. The sawyer is usually more protected than the workers outside the saw cab. I just hope anything we comment on is taken in the spirit it's given and not seen as being critical just for the sake of being critical. Thanks for your comment.
@@WPA33SC I’ve owed and operated a Woodmizer LT-30 for over fourty years , and worked in large commercial millls for years . My comment is a observation not a criticism . 👍🇨🇦
Great idea with a small enclosure around the controls .
Get grandpa busy, he would enjoy the project 😊
Don't bet on it😂. I'm 60 and would not look forward to it 🎉😊
Thanks!
For a little more, an open Pole barn with wind break would get things rolling real fast. No snow, dry work area, maybe a mirror to high light Jade with mic and speakers to communicate. Best of all, an enclosure wall to protect Em from the barker. All lit up and protected. Girls would be happy
LCLY, They make Headsets that are ear protection too ,So you and Jade could communicate without loosing Ear protection.Plexa glass is Bulletproof. God Bless
I agree with thomasjaroz7406 they now has safety headset with communication set up
Yes. Outdoors with the Morgans demo one recently I think
@@danj8404They showed it when cutting timber at the neighbors property. Sure looked pretty sweet.
I like your tattoo Emerald. "Death before Defeat"
Install a camera by the other end of the log to set the cut depth.
God Bless from your Canadian Friend
A walkie talkie set with head set would work. The enclosure for you is a good idea. Make sure you get heat and ac with it. Lol
and the coffee machine !! ;-)
Glad to hear there is a plan in place to get you some protection from the flying debris. I wouldn't want to imagine how bad getting hit in the eye with a small stone or sharp piece of bark would be. Take care Breon family. Wish you all the best.
You can get noise cancelling ear defenders with built in mics 🎤. Wouldn't even have to shout.
Not sure if anyone has mentioned yet… one thing that worked well at mills I have worked at is cameras and monitor screens to let the sawyer know when their partner is in a scary or unsafe area/status/or situation. Love the content and fully support family business! Keep it up y’all!
Another enjoyable video!!
Be careful Em, I do not want to see or hear of you getting impaled. 😉
You & Jade take care... 💜💜
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 hopefully have our new mill set up and running by next weekend. We went indoor and all electric
I don't know how you're so creative and come up with new things to talk about every time you make a video.
Just got my Lt70 month ago. Run from same side and yep hit by bark and stuff. Built 6x9 shed, big window and insulated and small enough to move with forks if we need too. Out of weather and warm. Also we moved to walkie talkies. Off bearer wears ear piece. In my shed with door closed it’s very quiet and easy to communicate.
As to communicating with Jade: set up a two sided sign that swivels in your line of sight. Round ,Green for ''go ahead and cut.'' Red Octagon for ''Stop and wait until I am finished over here.'' A heavy duty vinyl cover with brass eyelets can be made to cover the control head when not in use. Use bungee cords to hold it down. We had equipment in the Air Force with dark blue covers that worked in the rain, snow and sun. You could in effect build a pole barn framework over the saw, I might know where you could get some wood and top it off with cedar (or other wood), shakes, for the roof. It would look classy and cool! Marc in Newark... TX.
I agree with the radio ear protection. You could use a full face shield when using the mill.
csava YES !!! I agree 100%, protect yourselves !!! and the face shield would be a quick solution until "someone" gets around to the shed. I use one all the time !!
I really trust this family ❤️🇺🇸
Just orientate the end of the log you want to gauge the cut on, towards the mill operator. Then run the mill head down to the operator end and set the back of the blade at the height you want to enter the log. Then run the head back to the other end and enter the log cutting at that height. The person swamping should ideally wear a high-viz vest so the operator can better see them. A large round convex traffic mirror mounted in an appropriate location and angled appropriately will allow the operator to see the whole swamping work area. The operator definitely needs to be wearing a full face shield if running the de-barker.
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I saw the dual control location on some other video, almost suggested the relocation for you. A guide added to the finish table would prevent misdirection headed your way. Both you guys need a shed for protection, especially with fair skin.
We used to set our sawyer in a booth made of bulletproof glass because hitting spikes shattered blades and we had pieces of them flying too.
If you weren't related to the boss, you would have to convince him that productivity would go up if you had a shelter. You would also be less likely to get sick in bad weather which would mean less health expenses for the buisness. Also, if you disconnect the control panel every night then you risk wearing out the connector. When I worked on a piece of satellite equipment, we limited to connecting it a maximum of three times before the plug would have to replaced because the springiness of the contacts would be worn out. Maybe that will help you get the shelter you need.
and be safe, please consider eye protection, love your personalities and how refreshing you girls and family are.
Fun to get a look at the mill when not in operation. Thanks for posting Emerald. Good one!!
Oh EM great look am loving it, so cute 🥰
Thank you, ma'am.
That was very informative, with lots of practical, down-to-earth observations that I have to consider for when I get my own mill.
So glad your getting a shack come on dad please help 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Maybe he can be shamed into it. Dad has them both working in rain, extreme cold and heat and has done little to correct this over the years. They will age faster than anyone in their age group.
Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing
Wool is the best and I like that blue shirt with no sleeves that's cool I'm sure Dad will fix you a little place he doesn't want anything to happen to you guys and you might want to get a fog horn to get Jade's attention sometime 😉😁🐝
Hello. I will repeat a comment. have Grandpa watch a video of Robert Milton at Hobby Hardwoods Alabama and the mod. he made (and now many others) to his drag back. you could carry the lumber as far back as the mill head will go. Prob. get it onto the roller table and poss. onto the stack. It would be a lot safer for Jade, your off loader. Love the new mill and green chain log loader. Kepp up the good and honest hard work.
Best regards, Doc.
Yes to do the right and safest way for any project or business… thanks for your insights…. and being absolutely beautiful ❤
Cool video. Y'all have nice cameras! Great quality resolution shots. And the editing is smooth.
I like how it was set up on the old mill. I was wondering about that the first time I seen it was cutting from the other end. I would think you could see much better what is going on the old way. Your choice girls. : )
Yes Red, always respect the machines you use it's always when you become complacent mistakes happen so keep on them tipy toes
KADE EMERULD YOU LADYS ROCK😊😊😊🎉🎉🎉 GODBLESS YOU AND FAMILY
You did bring it up at the end, but I was thinking about it as soon as you mentioned communications. I follow a lot of boating channels, and most couples call them marriage savers. They are basically combination ear defenders, and a boom mic. Not crazy expensive, and work well. You should reach out to a supplier to collaborate for a set to demonstrate.
You and Jade are very joyful specially when you too cute kids dance
Great video!
perhaps wireless "backup" camera with the screen in your "new" enclosed work station "office" that gives you an up-close view of the blade entry to the log?
love it keep up the great work
You could use shipping containers stacked two high and there are companies that make a roof system just for that. It would be a excellent shelter for the girls and the saw 😊😊
What is the cost of shipping containers these days? Too much space used up by the containers in this case but and excellent solution for some situations.
A headset would take care of communication issues. Plexiglass in front of the control station. Your grandpa could help with that issue. Some kind of roof keeps away the sunburn in summer and just a few days ago you cut in the rain and the electronics needs to stay dry as possible. You mill your own lumber to keep cost down. Like with anything working out the bugs will take some time but between you ladies I think the answers are there. Thank you for sharing👍♥️♥️
Coming from an electro mechanical background it occurs to me you could put the control center at the other end by having either the manufacturer or 3rd party make custom extension cables, hoses etc that would bridge the gap to where the hookups are near that other end. I have made up a few extensions like these for clients in the past to bridge cables, pneumatic and hydrauliic lines.
Good points
Try mounting a mirror at the other end so you can view your depth of cut.
Very Good!
...a shade umbrella is definitely a good idea no matter what side the controls are on...
You are the bestest on the internets
It's often difficult to adapt to a new set up. Just takes a little time. However it's not always a step forward....
The best approach is to add logic to the way you work.
Firstly you must and I mean must always cut the small end of the log first. The reason being that the sudden load on the blade is significantly less and the grain is far straighter than a possibility of hard dried butt ends that could also have wild buttress cross grain.
You also benefit from the big end being away from you means you can be a little off target and still achieve a constant board face or better.
On a single cut saw you have the benefit of inspecting the last board if it passes by the sawyer as it is pushed off the end of the log. On a horizontal this becomes the saw return stroke so you must be behind the saw.
In a small work crew setup you could even be the one that feeds the edger. Not always perfect on hardwood but for softwoods very simple.
Being behind the saw you are far far far safer. Material coming off any sawblade can achieve a rim speed of 340 metres a second. Personal experience says it hurts and losing an eye is a very big possibility with the kind of debarkers you are using.
Does dad have to skid? Forwarded timber is much cleaner.
Hope you are achieving the increased output promised with the lt70. I assume you are also running a different computer to what you're used to. 😊
Roomy in side cab and has a nice big screen. The ride is really comfortable.
Thanks for sharing 🍸
Check out Hobby Hardwood Alabama. Roller tables going to different areas. Great job girls and we enjoy.
Just to play it safe, you could get a grill cover for the control panel until you get something permanent! Keep the videos coming!😊
❤❤❤love you guys and your videos ❤❤❤
Thanks beautiful ladies
Hello Emerald and Jade, my advice would be to do what works for you. If putting the control at the other end solves more problems than it causes do it and then solve the problems that makes. It seems to me the biggy of doing that is the possibility of getting hurt but that existed on the 40 as well. Perhaps putting a guardplate to prevent it happening or just being careful is the answer. In any case what ever you both decide I'm sure will work so both of you stay safe, and have a fabulous week as the good weather moves in. 🙂🌻🌻🧡
Looks like in some ways the LT70 trades operator convenience (and safety?) for increased production capacity over the LT40. It's always hard to change habits when you're so accustomed to a particular machine and production routine. You're already milling far more lumber than before so as you and J come up to speed on the LT70, keep safety first. Maybe work out some hand signals to communicate with each other at a distance, and choreograph your moves so you're always in synch with each other. Since you two dance so well together, just think of this as a new dance. I definitely like the idea of 'the Boss' putting in some protection from flying debris for you at the operator's station.
Yes you need a cab and a seat ❤ Have a wonderful day 📹👌👍😉from 🇨🇦 GOODNIGHT LCLY
As I seem to remember, WoodMizer used to offer a metal enclosure for the operator, just looked on their site and they do not so do. Perhaps you could find a used one
Hi there have a look at earmuffs with a 2 way radio. Sound protection and good quality communication.
Vinyl gas grill covers would make great covers for those controls and power plant !!
Other mills with the LT 70 cut from the opposite end that you are. I noticed that right away.
So at this point I can't help but watch because it's time for you guys to get over the 200K mark.
I'm sure you will figure it all out. As to the debarker, until you get a protective shelter I had a thought, perhaps one of the helmets your Dad uses in the woods with a fold down shield would do the job and protect you for now
Given your debris-flying-at-you description, I was thinking 'control booth/hut' to cover control panel.. There's even a song for that. 'Log shack, baby log shack!' Very cool.
You need vr headsets, and a view camera on the blade lead in. Do a bow roof with an offset base for product entrance. Roll up sides for summer roll down for winter.
you guys Rock !!!
setup a little shack for your controls using plexiglass, and probably have some cameras setup for jade, with monitors in your shack.
I have been a long viewer of your channel , I have enjoyed it & learned a lot & the new mill is awesome. My opinion is if Emerald feels safer & has better communications w/ Jade either move controls or buy a 2nd set of controls & add them. Also get them some shelter from the elements a pavilion open sided ( check out Mike Morgans as an example) Morgans Outdoors. Good luck & work safe.
Looking good. More productive but this brings on more challengea of growing small businesses. Best wishes.
Thanks for the detailed explanation of the mill control locations. Ear protection with Walkie-talkie sounds best. These would be useful even with a cover. Em, disembowelment sounds very bad plus it will ruin those Winston-Salem socks.
Everyone who runs a 70 runs it this way because most people have an offloading conveyor on the front side of the machine. I like being able to see where I’m entering the log so we always have the small end facing us as we cut into it. Having the small end away would take some serious getting used to.
Yours is the first setup I've seen with the saw head coming towards you.
Eye protection for both of you!
Put up a 10 x 10 canopy over the controllers that you can move around and tie down.
Get head sets with radios so you can speak to each other so you know that she it OK. If you build a protective shack angle the window like a boats wheel house so you don’t get blinded by sun light and reflection. Keep safe and at least you are telling everyone what to watch out for. Perhaps you should wear a visor to protect your eyes!
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Hi Emerald, may i suggest that you go with your instincts regarding switching ends, as you know best......My opinion is that you should switch ends, as that is what works best for you.........Also a shed to cover the entire mill, and control station is a must! for you as regards the weather, you need to be under cover from the elements.........Thanks for your never ending entertainment, don't work too hard, and remember, safety first. 😘
Woodmizer I think makes a cover for the control box , I cover mine when not in use to keep the elements off of it
I would set it up where you like it best . I have watched mills work great from either end . It would be good to start with a poll structure and Roof , board it in as you get time .
I'd move the controls to the other end and find a way for you and jade to work around that!!!
How about putting a webcam on Jade's side with an iPad at your end so you can see what she's doing? Also, perhaps a 2nd webcam showing you the blade entering the log.
Rugged radios might be a good solution. And who knows, maybe they could sponsor you too!
“If you have a pair of good socks, you have a good day.” 😊
Consider using some of the off-cuts when milling ties or other logs to build a pole-type roof with enough height, at least over the sawing area.
Beautiful Emerald 😍
Hopefully, you’ll use safety glass or heavy Lexan for the window in your shelter. 😊
Nice video and your problem with the shet you can use a cabin 10 by 10 feet there are some plates in the floor for cables maybe a interesting idee for you
I really like the hat thanks 😁
From one grandpa to another... When you construct the new shelter, tilt the blade facing window in at the bottom, 2-3". Same way it's done on a ship's bridge. This will help in numerous ways - cut down glare, stop reflection on instruments, keep rain off better, flying debris will get angled down & away versus straight shot to straight vertical glass. Communications - blue-tooth headsets called 'marriage savers'. Thanks for being you.
I agree! I think an angled down window is the correct way to go.
As long as it's on the side you are on!!
Consider remote controlled grain cart or semi covers over downspout structure. plug both ends of tubes makes then very rigged & light weight. Place on movable base so it can be out of the way when not needed, but heavy so wind will not move it. I covered a 5x10 trailer so I could stand inside & pulled it over 807 miles of interstate at times 85+ & it still sets at my brother's place, USABLE.
What about used shipping containers with podroof? Can even be made to store wood
I don't know who it was on UA-cam , but these guys had the cab of a vehicle to operate the mill from . i thought it was resourceful .
How about change the direction of rotation on the debarker motor and flip the debarker blade over.
They make a temperature controlled control booth. Larger Wood-mizer setups use it.