Mine is almost 10 years now since I bought it. Best bedroom amp, no wonder Vox stopped the production because it had the potential to beat their higher product lines.
This amp also came with the typical brown grille cloth. Mine is exactly like this one - the black grille cloth does give it a "special version" look. Bought it from a Music-Go-Round for $95 [in lightly used condition] around 2018. Best find ever :D
I have been gigging with two of these for about 10 years now. I have one black one and a brown one. I use a boss me-50 multi-effects pedal in stereo and put an sm57 mic in front of each amp. I've been gigging for over 30 years and have used big tube amps Marshall Fender Peavey and countless pedalboards etc etc and my tone has never been as good as it is now. I have more compliments now on my sound than ever before. These amps are worth their weight in gold.
I got 2 identical brown PF16Rs'. Have you modded yours in any way? Whould you have any idea/guess how the PF15R would sound if you put a preamp/IR loader pedal (I'm condidering the Nux Solid Studio) before the amp and used plain clean settings on the Pathfinder?
Fantastic amp! Norah Jones uses two in stereo live performing…!!! I changed the speaker for a 10” Celestion - the amp grew up so much!! The tremolo is sick good!!! Now I have 2 - one of them I keep it original. They are very hard to find now… Nice demo! Cheers and thanks for posting
They wont because it is just as good as theyre most expensive ones. That was the reason this production was so limited and ended fast. But i do understand why they do that. Business and that alone make it the right decision. If you ever find this amp on sale, go for it.
@@paisleepunk Well i think it still is a bit limited if you compare it to almost all Music instrument things like for example if Gibson would just announce that they will not make les Pauls anymore except the ones you order from theyre customshop. And how long they have made those since 50’s. But i get it that it isnt really limited. I fortunatly have couple and these are amazing amps and i would still buy one new one for 299€. If they would make these.
Love this amp. I've owned a wide variety of amps. This has been my favorite. Vox please bring this back at 50 watts with a large speaker. You can charge $300 for them.
They have a cambridge 50, 50 watts with a 12" speaker, which even has a "nu-tube" in the preamp...it has none of the classic mojo of a p15r...it would seem a p15r is greater than the sum of its parts
Love these amps. Easy to transport. Got that great Vox look and sounds great. I own a total of three of them. One for practice at home and the other two for stage. Run two in stereo on the floor left and right of me facing front and send the line out of one of them to a JBL powered PA 15” speaker cab shooting sideways towards the band. Volume boost (if needed) comes from the sideways JBL. The line out jack is awesome (ps: forget sending the headphone out.. it sucks). Line out sounds so musical and mimics the Pathfinder’s tonality. Not canned sounding at all. Thanks Ernest in Lexington KY
Best $60 on an amp have ever spent and it's my main practice amp. When the gain boost is engaged it does get pretty buzzy, but with my BD-2 on clean, it sounds amazing. I bought an AC-15VR for $200 in mint condition shortly after and it also is another great VOX amp that is way underrated
My prev roommate and friend (turned junkie and petty criminal, still owes me a bunch of money, fuck you) left one of these behind when he disappeared, didn't realize what a gem it was until I started jamming on it recently. I've had it for 12 years, and it was already probably used heavily for 5 years + before that. Had to look it up because I was so surprised how great it was compared to my other, quite expensive amp with a bunch of fancy stuff. So good clean tone and distortion, no pedals, but maybe I will try pedals in the future. Not experienced with that stuff. With my great grandfathers old Hagström Ultra Swede it really sounds amazing.
I love mine. My P15 is the Tremelo version. Same color pattern. I have player it through my 120watt 8 ohms 4x12 Marshall MG series B cab. Brings it alive for that 4x12 tone. But this lil thing is loud with its Blue Bulldog speaker. Definitely get one if you can find one.
I bought mine new in 2011. It sat in its box, unopened till last week when I went to sell it. Hmm, No way could I part with this amp. I am now using it full time as my main home amp. So cool.
Just saw this tonight, and I'm staying up late just to comment. I may be late to this video of yours, but I'm not late to the party when it comes to VOX Pathfinder 15Rs. It is my main amp for electric guitar, whether for bedroom use or gigging. You were indeed fortunate to find one. I would have guessed that 15Rs up for sale are as rare as moon rocks on earth by now. The 15R model was introduced in the year 2000 as an upgrade of the Pathfinder 15 (no reverb). Yours is an older version of the PF15R. The black grill cloth ones were Made in Korea up until 2008. At some point early in that year, the were Manufactured in Vietnam, sporting the brown grill cloth. I have both iterations, and in fact own three of these gems, one MiK, the other two MiV. I bought my first 15R 13 years ago in February, at a pawn shop for $40. I very quickly realized that I was always going to want at least one of these amps in my guitarsenal, so I went shopping for a second one and found an open box sale on one in perfect condition for $74. BTW, they sold new at the time (while still in production) for $119, so I had scored two of them for less than the price of one. Then in January of 2013, VOX/Korg decided to discontinue the Pathfinder 15R. At that point, I decided to buy one more, and paid full price for it. I got the last one the store had. So yes, I have three. And no, I won't sell any one of them. I also have two of the VOX VFS2 footswitches. I haven't owned a set of headphones in decades, so I've never tried the headphone out. And with only one short-lived exception, my amps have always been combo units, not head + cab, so I've never run an extension speaker with the 15R. But as for the Line Out, all I can say is try it once. I've run from the Line Out on the rear panel to two different powered mixers over the years, and into a powered speaker. The sound is nothing less than Pathfinder 15R tones at gig volumes. Much easier than putting a mic in front of the amp (although I've done that, too).
That breakup is so cool and convenient. No pedals to mess with just crank the gain. My pedals and tube amp are getting dusty since I bought this used for a steal. Its friggin addictive and cam hold it's own against a monoprice 15. Vox needs to make more gear like this instead of just ACs.
I think they stopped making these because they were too good for the price and they wanted people to spend more money on an ac10 or ac15. I gave in and bought a second hand ac15 because I could only find pathfinder 15s with no reverb.
This is a good question, the pathfinder produces more bass than the vibrochamp to my ears and it has a more fuller sound. I think this may be due to the cabinet of the pathfinder vs the vibrochamp? Also for the sake of grab and go the pathfinder I think has an advantage in that its cheap, it has both tremolo and reverb, even has a 8ohm speaker out so you can plug into just about most 1x12 configurations and has a pretty decent tone! Will it breakup like a tube amp? No but the clean sound it produces I would say is pretty great and better than most SS amps. It's truly a great pedal platform and easy to carry as well. I feel like the vibrochamp is good for a tube sound and easy to repair if anything goes wrong, but these days they are going for almost $2K!! Where as the pathfinders are still in the $200-400 price range and hopefully will stay that way (:
Sorry I just realized you were referring to the 68 custom reverb. But I feel most of what I said still applies. The 68 custom does an excellent clean tone but for whatever reason it just didnt have the full sound that i'm hearing with the pathfinder. I gotta give it to the 68 custom for recording though. It records really well!
I played an AC15 and really liked it. Do you think this amp is comparable to it? Looking for a great clean home amp. The other one I'm considering is the AC10.
If you liked the ac15 definitely try the ac10 before pulling the trigger! I think the pathfinder is a good clean home amp but it is rather small compared to an ac15. If you want a small solid state amp, the pathfinder will not disappoint. If you want a tube amp that has a bit more power and a bigger cabinet as well a bigger speaker, then you can't go wrong with either ac15 or the ac10. But if you already like the ac15 and it's within your budget, then just go with what the heart wants 🙂
@@Lucas_Arredondo I feel like I wouldn't be able to turn the AC15 up very high and that's why I heard the AC10 might be a little better for me. I'm hoping to find a store that has one to test out!
@@GuitarsRgood7i think you'll find the ac10 is shockingly loud for how small it is...still prefer the p15r though, sold the ac10 I had and kept the p15r, if that says anything...
Eu senti uma coisa como se faltasse uma simulação de cab pra ele usando com outros pedais. Sabe quando liga direto em uma caixa de som de casa? Assim mesmo. Não sei o que é. Pra usar distorção, tenho que somar com algum Ir ou simulação. O que pode ser?
That's an original composition of mine that I was playing! But the chords are very common in spanish-esque music. It's Gmin, Cmin and D7 and probably an F major somewhere in there.
Got mine in 2001, I had no clue, the man just sold it to me with a semi acoustic Ibanez talmar. Plays some mean & filthy Mick Ronson and Mr. Richards. Not for sale.
Only downside is that I found the reverb to be kinda weak. Anyone know if I can upgrade the tank to a better model and get more slinky verb out of this?
I actually was wondering about the reverb myself. I found it's a one-spring reverb, so you'll not get any more out of it than just some presence. To put in a three-spring setup means messing with the electronics; no thanks! I just went with a reverb pedal, and got the Walrus Julianna chorus the reviewer used here, used for $150.
@@upload2352 Mine was one-spring, and SOLD to a dude on Reddit who said he wanted one; sick puppy. 🤣 If I had a two-springer, I'd have kept it in there.
@@DerpRulesAll Interesting. I have 2 of these amps, not sure of the years made, and both have the 2s. Didn't know they'd made it w/1. I find the 2 to be plenty, for my needs.
@@upload2352 Bought mine in '04. That *is* interesting, since the Vox 'Site even mentions the one-spring unit. You see, I went there to find out what replacement I could use, back when I wanted to have a three-spring unit installed.
Honestly this amp is very pedal friendly so really any pedal you throw at it will sound great. I have only played tubescreamer and klon type overdrive pedals through it and I was very satisfied with both. Hope this helps!
@@Lucas_Arredondo Appreciate your answer. I was thinking about the boss blues bd-2 standard edition, not the waza craft. My pickup configuration is HSS.
The Vox Pathfinder 15-R ( the R stands for Reverb) discontinued in 2013, ..10 years ago. ..sold new around $130. Today, in 2023 your going to pay more in the $300. range, used. ..if you can find one, ..and $150. for the non reverb Vox Pathfinder 15 .
@@benjamingilmore825 Surprisingly yes, I can't tell you exactly why that is. But out of all small amps that i've played that had an 8inch speaker, I was the most impressed by this one.
@@benjamingilmore825 The line out can be used as a recording out but it sounds exactly like the headphone out. It's no better than a typical DI out in my opinion.
Having one of each, no difference except in the black or brown tolex. The black one will be an older model but essentially the same. Keep your eye out for one because a lot of people bought them as they were cheap, found out they could not learn to play and then left them in the bedroom or garage until they needed the room or somebody died. Good luck with getting one.
My Korean made one (black grille cloth) lacks a ferrite bead around the speaker wires used to remove high pitched oscillation in the power amp circuit. But I have seen it on many online photos of the exposed chassis. Perhaps the later Vietnamese made included this?
@@songboy765 Glad you liked the pedals! You'll be hearing more of them! In all seriousness the pedals were only on for like 2-3 minutes and the rest was just the amp
Mine is almost 10 years now since I bought it. Best bedroom amp, no wonder Vox stopped the production because it had the potential to beat their higher product lines.
Notable moments:
3:57 - Clean sounds
5:47 - Reverb
6:18 - Tremolo
7:07 - Ibanez TS808 engaged
7:45 - Walrus Audio Julia Chorus/Vibrato engaged
8:30 - Turning up the gain knob a bit
9:20 - Boost mode engaged
10:30 - Just messing around
12:02 - Really nice tone !
Thanks for the timestamps. The reverb has a GREAT drip to it. Surprising amount of bass in boost mode, I dig that a lot.
@@bigwomp932Where did you hear a 'great drip?'
This amp also came with the typical brown grille cloth. Mine is exactly like this one - the black grille cloth does give it a "special version" look. Bought it from a Music-Go-Round for $95 [in lightly used condition] around 2018. Best find ever :D
I have been gigging with two of these for about 10 years now. I have one black one and a brown one. I use a boss me-50 multi-effects pedal in stereo and put an sm57 mic in front of each amp. I've been gigging for over 30 years and have used big tube amps Marshall Fender Peavey and countless pedalboards etc etc and my tone has never been as good as it is now. I have more compliments now on my sound than ever before. These amps are worth their weight in gold.
I got 2 identical brown PF16Rs'.
Have you modded yours in any way?
Whould you have any idea/guess how the PF15R would sound if you put a preamp/IR loader pedal (I'm condidering the Nux Solid Studio) before the amp and used plain clean settings on the Pathfinder?
Do you think one of these will deliver in small pubs with drums and bass?
Fantastic amp! Norah Jones uses two in stereo live performing…!!! I changed the speaker for a 10” Celestion - the amp grew up so much!! The tremolo is sick good!!! Now I have 2 - one of them I keep it original. They are very hard to find now… Nice demo! Cheers and thanks for posting
Mine has been sitting at my parents house since 2009. Just picked it up today. Cannot WAIT to dial this thing in. Awesome video!
they should bring this amp back into production it's so good
They wont because it is just as good as theyre most expensive ones. That was the reason this production was so limited and ended fast. But i do understand why they do that. Business and that alone make it the right decision. If you ever find this amp on sale, go for it.
@@oggamer735they had a 12 year run, so i wouldn't exactly call them "limited" (even if prices may indicate otherwise)
@@paisleepunk Well i think it still is a bit limited if you compare it to almost all Music instrument things like for example if Gibson would just announce that they will not make les Pauls anymore except the ones you order from theyre customshop. And how long they have made those since 50’s. But i get it that it isnt really limited. I fortunatly have couple and these are amazing amps and i would still buy one new one for 299€. If they would make these.
Love this amp. I've owned a wide variety of amps. This has been my favorite. Vox please bring this back at 50 watts with a large speaker. You can charge $300 for them.
They have a cambridge 50, 50 watts with a 12" speaker, which even has a "nu-tube" in the preamp...it has none of the classic mojo of a p15r...it would seem a p15r is greater than the sum of its parts
Love these amps. Easy to transport. Got that great Vox look and sounds great. I own a total of three of them. One for practice at home and the other two for stage. Run two in stereo on the floor left and right of me facing front and send the line out of one of them to a JBL powered PA 15” speaker cab shooting sideways towards the band. Volume boost (if needed) comes from the sideways JBL. The line out jack is awesome (ps: forget sending the headphone out.. it sucks). Line out sounds so musical and mimics the Pathfinder’s tonality. Not canned sounding at all. Thanks Ernest in Lexington KY
Such a nice review Lucas, I'm picking one up tomorrow :)
You will love it! Cheers!
I have owned 3 of these amps. Currently have one. My second favorite amp after an old Princeton reverb. I’m not kidding
Best $60 on an amp have ever spent and it's my main practice amp. When the gain boost is engaged it does get pretty buzzy, but with my BD-2 on clean, it sounds amazing. I bought an AC-15VR for $200 in mint condition shortly after and it also is another great VOX amp that is way underrated
My prev roommate and friend (turned junkie and petty criminal, still owes me a bunch of money, fuck you) left one of these behind when he disappeared, didn't realize what a gem it was until I started jamming on it recently. I've had it for 12 years, and it was already probably used heavily for 5 years + before that. Had to look it up because I was so surprised how great it was compared to my other, quite expensive amp with a bunch of fancy stuff. So good clean tone and distortion, no pedals, but maybe I will try pedals in the future. Not experienced with that stuff. With my great grandfathers old Hagström Ultra Swede it really sounds amazing.
It's a really excellent piece of industrial design. I've a Bugera V5 which is also a beautiful design.
Bought a bugera v22
I love mine.
My P15 is the Tremelo version. Same color pattern.
I have player it through my 120watt 8 ohms 4x12 Marshall MG series B cab. Brings it alive for that 4x12 tone. But this lil thing is loud with its Blue Bulldog speaker. Definitely get one if you can find one.
I bought mine new in 2011. It sat in its box, unopened till last week when I went to sell it. Hmm, No way could I part with this amp. I am now using it full time as my main home amp. So cool.
Just saw this tonight, and I'm staying up late just to comment. I may be late to this video of yours, but I'm not late to the party when it comes to VOX Pathfinder 15Rs. It is my main amp for electric guitar, whether for bedroom use or gigging.
You were indeed fortunate to find one. I would have guessed that 15Rs up for sale are as rare as moon rocks on earth by now. The 15R model was introduced in the year 2000 as an upgrade of the Pathfinder 15 (no reverb).
Yours is an older version of the PF15R. The black grill cloth ones were Made in Korea up until 2008. At some point early in that year, the were Manufactured in Vietnam, sporting the brown grill cloth. I have both iterations, and in fact own three of these gems, one MiK, the other two MiV.
I bought my first 15R 13 years ago in February, at a pawn shop for $40. I very quickly realized that I was always going to want at least one of these amps in my guitarsenal, so I went shopping for a second one and found an open box sale on one in perfect condition for $74. BTW, they sold new at the time (while still in production) for $119, so I had scored two of them for less than the price of one.
Then in January of 2013, VOX/Korg decided to discontinue the Pathfinder 15R. At that point, I decided to buy one more, and paid full price for it. I got the last one the store had.
So yes, I have three. And no, I won't sell any one of them. I also have two of the VOX VFS2 footswitches.
I haven't owned a set of headphones in decades, so I've never tried the headphone out. And with only one short-lived exception, my amps have always been combo units, not head + cab, so I've never run an extension speaker with the 15R.
But as for the Line Out, all I can say is try it once. I've run from the Line Out on the rear panel to two different powered mixers over the years, and into a powered speaker. The sound is nothing less than Pathfinder 15R tones at gig volumes. Much easier than putting a mic in front of the amp (although I've done that, too).
That breakup is so cool and convenient. No pedals to mess with just crank the gain. My pedals and tube amp are getting dusty since I bought this used for a steal. Its friggin addictive and cam hold it's own against a monoprice 15. Vox needs to make more gear like this instead of just ACs.
I traded a Peavy twin reverb chorus for this. Such a good amp
Great review video. Great amp too. Happily subscribed 😊
do you remember the setting by any chance? thanks!
I think they stopped making these because they were too good for the price and they wanted people to spend more money on an ac10 or ac15. I gave in and bought a second hand ac15 because I could only find pathfinder 15s with no reverb.
Yup that's what I have no reverb. But pedals still sounds so good
The true test is to engage a dirt pedal with a delay pedal right in front of the amp, to see how well the amp can handle that!!
Trust me it handles both very well.
Can you recommend an external cabinet for it? Cheers
Great sounds. I know they're very different but thoughts on this compared to your vibro champ 68 reverb?
This is a good question, the pathfinder produces more bass than the vibrochamp to my ears and it has a more fuller sound. I think this may be due to the cabinet of the pathfinder vs the vibrochamp? Also for the sake of grab and go the pathfinder I think has an advantage in that its cheap, it has both tremolo and reverb, even has a 8ohm speaker out so you can plug into just about most 1x12 configurations and has a pretty decent tone! Will it breakup like a tube amp? No but the clean sound it produces I would say is pretty great and better than most SS amps. It's truly a great pedal platform and easy to carry as well. I feel like the vibrochamp is good for a tube sound and easy to repair if anything goes wrong, but these days they are going for almost $2K!! Where as the pathfinders are still in the $200-400 price range and hopefully will stay that way (:
Sorry I just realized you were referring to the 68 custom reverb. But I feel most of what I said still applies. The 68 custom does an excellent clean tone but for whatever reason it just didnt have the full sound that i'm hearing with the pathfinder. I gotta give it to the 68 custom for recording though. It records really well!
@@Lucas_Arredondo Great thoughts, cheers for the detailed reply!
Can you do a guitar tutorial on Transpose by Bad Suns?
I played an AC15 and really liked it. Do you think this amp is comparable to it? Looking for a great clean home amp. The other one I'm considering is the AC10.
If you liked the ac15 definitely try the ac10 before pulling the trigger! I think the pathfinder is a good clean home amp but it is rather small compared to an ac15. If you want a small solid state amp, the pathfinder will not disappoint. If you want a tube amp that has a bit more power and a bigger cabinet as well a bigger speaker, then you can't go wrong with either ac15 or the ac10. But if you already like the ac15 and it's within your budget, then just go with what the heart wants 🙂
@@Lucas_Arredondo I feel like I wouldn't be able to turn the AC15 up very high and that's why I heard the AC10 might be a little better for me. I'm hoping to find a store that has one to test out!
@@GuitarsRgood7i think you'll find the ac10 is shockingly loud for how small it is...still prefer the p15r though, sold the ac10 I had and kept the p15r, if that says anything...
Eu senti uma coisa como se faltasse uma simulação de cab pra ele usando com outros pedais. Sabe quando liga direto em uma caixa de som de casa? Assim mesmo. Não sei o que é. Pra usar distorção, tenho que somar com algum Ir ou simulação.
O que pode ser?
What song is playing at the moment 6:20 ?
That's an original composition of mine that I was playing! But the chords are very common in spanish-esque music. It's Gmin, Cmin and D7 and probably an F major somewhere in there.
I got two PF15Rs' that I plan to use in a stereo/dualnamp setup for some ping-pong delay effects.
They sound great that way.
Got mine in 2001, I had no clue, the man just sold it to me with a semi acoustic Ibanez talmar. Plays some mean & filthy Mick Ronson and Mr. Richards. Not for sale.
2 X 10, for sure, dude; it RULES. Thanks for the warning about the headphone jack. I never used it.
Hello, what settings do you use? I have to remove the bass almost completely sometimes because it’s always too much
A solid state amp with an 8" speaker putting out too much bass? That's crazy
Only downside is that I found the reverb to be kinda weak. Anyone know if I can upgrade the tank to a better model and get more slinky verb out of this?
I actually was wondering about the reverb myself. I found it's a one-spring reverb, so you'll not get any more out of it than just some presence. To put in a three-spring setup means messing with the electronics; no thanks! I just went with a reverb pedal, and got the Walrus Julianna chorus the reviewer used here, used for $150.
@@DerpRulesAll stock is a 2-spring reverb tank
@@upload2352 Mine was one-spring, and SOLD to a dude on Reddit who said he wanted one; sick puppy. 🤣 If I had a two-springer, I'd have kept it in there.
@@DerpRulesAll Interesting. I have 2 of these amps, not sure of the years made, and both have the 2s. Didn't know they'd made it w/1. I find the 2 to be plenty, for my needs.
@@upload2352 Bought mine in '04. That *is* interesting, since the Vox 'Site even mentions the one-spring unit. You see, I went there to find out what replacement I could use, back when I wanted to have a three-spring unit installed.
what overdrive pedals do you recomend with this amp?
Honestly this amp is very pedal friendly so really any pedal you throw at it will sound great. I have only played tubescreamer and klon type overdrive pedals through it and I was very satisfied with both. Hope this helps!
@@Lucas_Arredondo Appreciate your answer. I was thinking about the boss blues bd-2 standard edition, not the waza craft.
My pickup configuration is HSS.
The Vox Pathfinder 15-R ( the R stands for Reverb) discontinued in 2013, ..10 years ago. ..sold new around $130. Today, in 2023 your going to pay more in the $300. range, used. ..if you can find one, ..and $150. for the non reverb Vox Pathfinder 15 .
Found one for $80 in Culver City. Had to drive across LA /405 to get it on a lazy Sunday. :)
10 inch speaker? Thanks
8 inch!
@@Lucas_Arredondo and it still sounds pretty full? Thanks
@@benjamingilmore825 Surprisingly yes, I can't tell you exactly why that is. But out of all small amps that i've played that had an 8inch speaker, I was the most impressed by this one.
@@Lucas_Arredondo is there a direct recording out? If so, does it sound as bad as the headphone Jack? Thanks again!
@@benjamingilmore825 The line out can be used as a recording out but it sounds exactly like the headphone out. It's no better than a typical DI out in my opinion.
Glad you are diggingit. Thank you for the dead lessons
use chorus between amp and speaker not as preamp
It is good for metal?
the best
@@mikeygoda xd
Is there any difference between Korean made and Vietnam made?
Having one of each, no difference except in the black or brown tolex. The black one will be an older model but essentially the same. Keep your eye out for one because a lot of people bought them as they were cheap, found out they could not learn to play and then left them in the bedroom or garage until they needed the room or somebody died. Good luck with getting one.
My Korean made one (black grille cloth) lacks a ferrite bead around the speaker wires used to remove high pitched oscillation in the power amp circuit. But I have seen it on many online photos of the exposed chassis. Perhaps the later Vietnamese made included this?
Use the headphone out into a PA
what does this do?
@@soofitnsexy makes it so the amp is playing through a building’s speakers
OK, we want to hear tha AMP, not your 2 pedals! Do a separate video showcasing your pedals. We have NO IDEA what the amp sounds like. "Thanks".
No idea? You must have not watched this video at all.
@@Lucas_Arredondo Yes, watched it all the way through...nice pedals! Went elsewhere to hear the amp.
@@songboy765 Glad you liked the pedals! You'll be hearing more of them!
In all seriousness the pedals were only on for like 2-3 minutes and the rest was just the amp
This is very boring playing.
This is a very boring comment
And of course, you could do better. Bore off.
For what I'm interested in, yes. Bore off. @@quakerkid3280