He 100% was waiting to kill someone his whole life dude started fucking trashtalking how justified he was while not licensed to carry a firearm and not being a licensed security employee
and also referred to himself as "officer" and tried acting like a cop by using cop phrases. and 1 shot's enough to incapacitate or kill and the dude shot 4 into someone while their wife was next to them. POS
@@rowan1275you missed the part where on Larry's end he was repeatedly also told he IS allowed onsite to take the pallets. He's being told two different things, but his job is to get the pallets so if the store says do it then of course he's gonna do it. Shooting a dude over pallets. Absolute brain dead security.
@@coley1555 I heavily agree that was an insane use of force for him moving a car. The security guard should be charged for murder but it's just a terrible unnecessary situation
I used to work security, it's so easy. It just takes a little clarity: You're not a cop, you're customer service and a tax write off. Just treat everyone with courtesy and ask; don't tell. I never had any problems with anyone, because they knew, that I knew, that there were no illusions about authority.
@@truslo It was a mall, so big stores had their own loss prevention. But if a smaller store called us for that, we’d respond but there honestly wasn’t much we could do. Approach and talk to them, but they could just leave. Couldn’t touch them, chase them, etc I’d get fired
@@brendolbreadwar2671 citizens arrest is only for felonies, and you should still be real careful because if you’re wrong in court that’s unlawful imprisonment
This is one of the saddest ones I've seen in a long time. That man had decades of life left to spend with his wife and some dickhead on a power trip decides to put himself in a situation where he would need to kill him..
I don't feel any hatred, Freddy just didn't respect his authority and that guy just wanted to kill someone, wouldn't say he really hated him. Yes he used a deadly weapon against the security officer and that one had the right to defend himself, but in the end I don't think Freddy wanted to run him over and it's just a trespassing and some pallets... I would have just thought "oh well, that guy doesn't respect my authority, I either try to arrest him probably getting into a fist fight, or I call the cops and go drink a coffee". This whole ordeal is kinda sickening
@@evennoiz yeah, imagine wasting your life and leaving your wife over pallets because you think you are untouchable. The guy ignored his survival instincts and is now in a cemetery
He did have confirmation. Freddy was with the manager on 3 occasions where they had a confrontation. Dude ignored the manager 3 times and continued to tell Freddy to get off the property.
@@markmartinez6317 When you're in the middle of it and he has confirmation (allegedly), you have your confirmation and instructions, phone up the dude there and then, get clarification and call authorities if sht goes sideways.
so he got permission from the store owners to get the pallets but the security guards got nothing better to do so they harass a worker? also a cop would probably be allowed to shoot him if he was under arrest and refused to get out but a mall cop is no different from a regular citizen, it could be argued that the security cop was the one who started it all by pepper spraying him
I think it was all ok in the beginning but then Freddy helped some guy escape from this security and from then on they had a hunch on Freddy. Imagine the trashtalk these security guys must have given their company for whatever that official trespassing document was. Freddy never really did anything serious, so why did he even get a ban?? Exaggerated lies from this Logan POS?
The store owner yes, but the property owner told the security guards not to let people do that. Watch the fucking video with 0 bias and realize that everyone involved was retarded.
The security guard tried to mace the guy first then stood in front of the guys only exit with a gun drawn yelling at him to leave and then basically shot the guy when he reversed his car
the initial pepper spray from the killer just shows his intentions, he wasn't trying to deescalate and wait for police, HE IS THE LAW, YOU BETTER LISTEN TO HIM.
"Undeservedly". Deserved. I don't care what the context was. If person A knowingly drives into person B, a security guard doing his job and body blocking a potential thief, then person B has every right to shoot person A, mag dump them even. Cars are big and heavy. They can do serious damage. Security officers or guards are meant to stop theft and protect property. What's the point in having security if they can't momentarily stop someone to investigate theft allegations?
@@alkazar625 he was convicted and sentenced to life, security clearly in the wrong. Security went above the line of his job and escalated a situation that didn't need to happen, his personal feelings got in the way of his job. He stood in front of the vehicle, he has legs and could have moved away and given them time to leave, but didn't and that's exactly why he is serving life.
@villeind6159 the point of security is to NOT let them leave. He used his body as barrier and the husband used deadly force first and the guard responded accordingly.
@@alkazar625 Incorrect, the security guards are not supposed to try to stop theft AT ALL and there was no threat of violence until the security guard deliberately set it up that way. Security guards are only supposed to stop ACTUAL violence not cause it.
@benjaminharrisiv650 literally said he'd prefer to use force against the dude, didn't call cops till after he shot him, pepper sprayed both of them unlawfully. I mean I can go on he was not even defending himself he could've easily moved out of the way to let the man leave and let the cops pull him over.
Bro pepper sprayed INTO the vehicle(which btw, even in an open space if you get just a whiff of, it's pretty debilitating), then got in front of the car while demanding him to leave. When the man accelerates and tries to fucking leave, he's still blocking the way then pulls a gun to shoot him. He's not even a cop, but a fucking security guard...
He was so deep into power playing he was festering in the moment. He got the climax he was looking for but the post nut clarity provided by the penal system probably changed how he views this moment.
"yea, can you come pick up these palets from my property. I should also mention you're banned so your not allowed to come here. How soon can you be here?"
Main character syndrome. Dude kept escalating in hopes of getting some RP action it's plain as day. It's perfectly normal to not have it in writing to pick up the pallets, most shops just let people take them off them because it's trash anyway. Those firetrucking loser security were patrolling Lowes parking lot dressed like a SWAT team doing roleplay powertrip and harassing them over legal semantic.
"where you scared?" "no, due to my military background and intense training i was never afraid" there should be an iq test before you can carry guns or something.
one mans trash is another mans treasure. if i remember right these pallets are like 80€/ea in germany but it would cost the companies far more to have them picked up and brought back to them. so it is actually smart thinking to pick them up and resell them to the companies, winwin for both sides.
@@Unplayed euro pallets are usually 25 euros because they are treated against insects and mold etc (like ippc palettes) I doubt these palettes would have all these specifications so 10 euro per palette seems more reasonable. At least that's what is common here in germany afaik. Keep in mind that it's not the price you buy new pallets for but the deposit you pay when you buy goods on a palette
people like this are actually really common this guy yells at the dead guy WHILE HES DEAD LIKE BRO U JUST SHOT HIS HEAD WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU YELLING AT
the security attacked them while they were in the car then stood in front of the car while they were trying to get away then used that as an excuse to open fire.
If a car is a deadly weapon and you drive forward knowing that there's a person in front of your car. That is deadly force. Cops may go against their training and body block cars because they think no sane person would dare move their car because it could result in a shooting. The security officer should not have been convicted. Why do police get to shoot people who drive into them but us normal citizens can't? The same with the 20 foot melee rule. Cops can shoot people who charge at them with a blade if they are 20 feet away, but citizens are held to a stricter standard.
@@benjaminharrisiv650 The FBI need to check your devices, if you're so obsessed with defending a murderer this badly, I can tell you definitely have some illegal gore shit that you get off to.
How? He had no training and decided to work anyway. He had no real authority and no right to do anything in that situation. And def not peperspray thr couple.
Getting in front of a car and complaining that its moving forward is as mentally insane as running through a firing range and complaining that you almosts got shot
i went back to that timestamp cause i genuinely believed he'd say something like that lmao sounds in character. this loser wasn't an officer, just some public servant jannie for the plaza. his ego and power tripping was disgusting. the fact his main concern was constantly repeating his justification as to why he shot freddy FOUR times (and even correcting some people like the lady on the phone) to everyone around him instead of trying to immediately find any possible way to render aid for this dude bleeding out is disturbing. no moral compass. the icing on the cake was him asking his boss for the day off the next day so casually like he didn't just kill someone, and his wife of 30 years wasn't sobbing and screaming beside him. it's actually terrifying seeing such a lack of empathy.
Logan C Gimbel convicted of second-degree murder and sentenced to serve a minimum of 25 years in prison until possibility of parole. May 23 open and shut.
America and these absolute clown laws lmfao. How can a Store say yes and the Property owner say No that is absolutely dumb. There should always be only one Party that has authority to decide if YES or NO Thats like Renting a House and the landlord says person xyz is not allowed to be IN YOUR RENTED House
I worked loss prevention and security after I got out of the army. It’s super clear your just deterrence you can’t do shit except ask nicely 99 percent of the time. This guys done.
Sad how fucked up security can be. They never have any actual power unless violence is in play, because they can't even legally arrest/detain anyone unless a violent felony is looming. They are so useless that they legally can't even get them to leave the property, which is why a security company is just completely useless, their best bet would just to immediately call PD.
Huge miscommunication disaster. Property never formally trespassed the dude, dude only had a verbal agreement with the Lowe's trash lady who hadn't informed the property, and security never called police about the dude because of their ego. Crazy.
He was trespassed multiple times. Not sure what you mean by "formally" trespassed. And security did contact police. They had a BOLO and instructions to detain the man until police arrive if he refuses to comply with the trespass.
@@phaedrus000security can’t detain; only police officers can. The most he could do is citizens arrest, but it would be better to keep an eye on him until the police arrive to prevent a physical altercation.
Security gaurd failed to become a cop so he settled with being a third rate security guard that looks for opportunities to unload his gun for the pettiest reasons
@@ObserversOfHumanitythere’s more security guards than police in most cities. After 911, security really boomed. So yea, we need them, but not this guy.
Rolled and smocked. imagine all you have to do is call the cops on your job and you put yourself infront of a car after peperspraying someone. worst life decisions from that guy
The guy who obviously wants to fight: "You're looking for a fight dude and when you do I'm gonna take you down!" This guy should be in the UFC or something where he's paid to hurt people, not working security with a gun he shouldn't have in the first place.
On top of being a straight up murderer, that fake policeman is actually insane. Like the way he screams at a dead man trying to justify his actions while the wife is screaming is some psycopath shit. Also, how does he expect him to leave at all after trying to pepper spray him? He can't fucking see
I feel like this wannabe cop saw too many "Police Activity" videos, where the cops position themselves infront of the suspect car, to stop them from leaving and otherwise use deadly force because the vehicle is like a deadly weapon. But even then, most cops jump to the side and dont even use their gun at all, they just threaten to use it and then it ends up in a chase most of the time. Also they didn't tell the suspect to leave, while blocking the only 1 possible way to leave. This is ridiculous and so cringe. Lil bro thought he has the same rights as the real police and doesn't even have a license to carry a firearm. HOLY YIKES
He wasn’t trained and it shows because he didn’t know what tf he was doing. The security company should be held liable as well for hiring this clown and not checking his licenses.
They can't hide this from the public. Any decent security company management would have recognized this guy is not fit to be a security guard, much less a armed one.
I remember our team hearing about this. I’ve worked Security Management in Portland for a couple of years. Definitely not the easiest city to work in this industry with some of the issues we run into on a daily basis. Getting your Armed DPSST certification takes time and it’s pivotal you understand the power you have once completed. Biggest thing is deescalation and having empathy in these situations. It’s horrible this happened the way it did, and it’s devastating for everyone affected. RIP to Freddy.
EWU is starting to bug me with the whole "most twisted case they have ever seen" "little did they know it would take a horrifying turn" "most disturbing case they had ever recieved" for almost every single video now lol
If he wanted to de-escalate he would have left him leave then let the cops deal with it, not blocking his car in with his body to force a confrontation.
As a security guard myself, this definitely didn’t have to end in bloodshed. Our job is to observe and report. On the other hand tho he shouldn’t have moved the vehicle forward, that vehicle is a deadly weapon. It could still have been resolved differently without this kind of force.
This should be used as a training video to vet out any and all security jobs. Anyone that thinks lethal force at any point made sense here needs to be blacklisted from the industry.
@@qonra any reputable security company will train you by going over actual training videos of incidents like this, security guards have no obligation to use force in any circumstance even in active shooter situations if you can flee or hide you are taught to do that instead of using deadly force, this is just a insane person on a power trip looking for a legal kill
I am NOT defending the security officer. Probably 100 things Logan did wrong. That being said, Freddy could probably have avoided this tragic incident by trying to clear the situation up and or not visiting again. I am NOT defending the security officer. Also the woman who was handling the trash also could have made an effort to clear it up between the different parties. I am NOT defending the security officer.
Unfortunately, he ran into a much stupider asshole than he was, and that idiot had a gun and has obviously been waiting his whole life to end someone else's. I can't blame Freddy at all, I know a dozen plus men that would act the same way towards some wannabe mall cop because logically, that guy's not going to shoot you unless he's monumentally stupid.
All this over trash…. the corner store company and security is stupid. I don’t even know if a leasing company can say “hey this person can’t pick up YOUR TRASH” it’s nonsense. Lowe’s owes the trash and they have every right to ask someone to pick it up. The idea of somehow the person you leasing from controlling the garbage is ridiculous.
These "mall cops" are over stepping their boundaries. The overall property manager can hire security guards to watch the property, but the lease holder also has rights. A security guard has an obligation to check with the lease holder and verify who there vendors are. If Lowes says he is a vendor, and is there to pick up pallets. Then if he isn't doing anything wrong outside of his stated business then they should be leaving him alone
because every incident you see is probably on the news or youtube and they only show the bad encounters on the news, not the ones that are resolved peacefully
Security guards don't carry real guns. If they do carry anything it's just a flashlight/club and maybe pepper spray. Only private security use real guns.
Nowhere is perfect but honestly fuck living in America you can get these genuine sociopaths who can sign up to be armed authority figures for their deranged power trips.
@@chuck948 never is the guns fault eh? You guys love to make fun of knife crime etc but for every horror story I’ve read about European knife crime I just imagine how much more damage could’ve been done with guns. It’s 100% a gun problem too
@@laloTav1972 "for every horror story I’ve read about European knife crime" Wow, it's almost like criminals don't follow the law or something, that's craaazy man!
It doesn't matter whether the guard was right, the drivers ego told him to disregard a guy pointing a gun at him. What, he's gonna have "The guard shouldn't have" on his tombstone? Don't play chicken with an armed person threatening to shoot you just because you think your balls are bigger than his.
guilty or not dude was just getting pallets which are trash and mall cop acted like he was taking gold. every time the security loser escalated the situation instead of letting police to deal with it. if police dealt with it no one wouldve been shot and freddy would’ve probably listened. all these idiot rage bait comments should probably become a security officer
Why would they need to call the police? The only one that was doing something illegal was the security guard, the pallet guy had every legal right to be there, permission from the manager who told him to take the pallets on multiple occasions and told the security guard 3 times that they were allowed.
The gaurd purposefully ramped the situation up to get to that point. He waned to do something towards the victim. I agree if someone points a car at you and starts at you, you can shoot them. But not if you stand in front of the car unpurpose. .
This is like when NoPixel cops intentionally run in front of crims cars so they get run over and can justify shooting except this guy barely even moved
You know what America needs ? more guns. What if she had a gun and the driver had one. Then its 2 vs 1 gun. And 2 guns always win over 1 gun = More guns is good. MERICA
The shoot was justified. Using a cop's standard, if you drive towards someone that is deadly force or intent to kill. That husband knew the guard was right there and chose to drive into him. What's the point of security if they can't investigate people on the premises for possible theft? Yeah he was unregistered but his claim to self defense still stands.
This is just so stupid and there's a reason why security guards are not cops. This guy tells him to leave the property, gets in front of the car when he tries to drive away, and then tells him not to move his truck or he'll shoot him. So many conflicting orders all at once. Security guard is 100% in the wrong. He shouldn't even have a gun if his first reaction is to shoot the guy instead of GETTING OUT OF THE WAY.
Literally just spend 10 seconds and google Florida or Texas stand your ground laws it specifically says stand your ground and you have no duty to retreat in public spaces... Please. Delete your account
He 100% was waiting to kill someone his whole life dude started fucking trashtalking how justified he was while not licensed to carry a firearm and not being a licensed security employee
@@carlito19934 yup
and also referred to himself as "officer" and tried acting like a cop by using cop phrases. and 1 shot's enough to incapacitate or kill and the dude shot 4 into someone while their wife was next to them. POS
@@brendolbreadwar2671 hehe yup
Ridiculous stuff to watch...
Dumb ass in prison for life over wood pallets
30 year old relationship ended by a wannabe cop, that's the most tragic part
Felt so bad for that woman. Watched her husband get murdered in broad daylight over nothing.
@@rowan1275you missed the part where on Larry's end he was repeatedly also told he IS allowed onsite to take the pallets. He's being told two different things, but his job is to get the pallets so if the store says do it then of course he's gonna do it. Shooting a dude over pallets. Absolute brain dead security.
@@coley1555 I heavily agree that was an insane use of force for him moving a car. The security guard should be charged for murder but it's just a terrible unnecessary situation
over pallets
@@rowan1275 Pallets bro ... pallets life taken over pallets
I used to work security, it's so easy. It just takes a little clarity: You're not a cop, you're customer service and a tax write off. Just treat everyone with courtesy and ask; don't tell. I never had any problems with anyone, because they knew, that I knew, that there were no illusions about authority.
what if someone steals
@@truslo you say hey stop and if they dont stop you let them go and call the cops if necessary
@@truslo legally you could arrest them under citizens arrest but youd be fired most likely. no employee is ever supposed to touch a customer.
@@truslo It was a mall, so big stores had their own loss prevention. But if a smaller store called us for that, we’d respond but there honestly wasn’t much we could do. Approach and talk to them, but they could just leave. Couldn’t touch them, chase them, etc I’d get fired
@@brendolbreadwar2671 citizens arrest is only for felonies, and you should still be real careful because if you’re wrong in court that’s unlawful imprisonment
This is one of the saddest ones I've seen in a long time. That man had decades of life left to spend with his wife and some dickhead on a power trip decides to put himself in a situation where he would need to kill him..
Not even need but yeah he kept forcing himself into situations where sht will escalate and be risky
Don't run over people with your car then.
@anonnymous31 don't stand in front of a car while actively telling them to leave lmfao
@@anonnymous31 gaddafi pic, delusion checks out
@@anonnymous31 delusion spotted
u can feel the hatred and rage that fake cop have toward him .
I don't feel any hatred, Freddy just didn't respect his authority and that guy just wanted to kill someone, wouldn't say he really hated him. Yes he used a deadly weapon against the security officer and that one had the right to defend himself, but in the end I don't think Freddy wanted to run him over and it's just a trespassing and some pallets... I would have just thought "oh well, that guy doesn't respect my authority, I either try to arrest him probably getting into a fist fight, or I call the cops and go drink a coffee". This whole ordeal is kinda sickening
@@evennoiz yeah, imagine wasting your life and leaving your wife over pallets because you think you are untouchable.
The guy ignored his survival instincts and is now in a cemetery
@S4NSE that's insane to even imply authority. Security guards are there to call the police nothing more. Literally just a phone with eyes
You can feel how much pride Freddy has, listen to someone with a gun
"Little Pallet Business" 😏
He kills the guy and then mocks him
I hope he gets dealt with in prison
As a secuirty guard, this is omega cringe to watch. Dude, call up the manager dude, get a confirmation. F this guard
He did have confirmation. Freddy was with the manager on 3 occasions where they had a confrontation. Dude ignored the manager 3 times and continued to tell Freddy to get off the property.
Ur probably gonna end up the same way pscyho
@@markmartinez6317 When you're in the middle of it and he has confirmation (allegedly), you have your confirmation and instructions, phone up the dude there and then, get clarification and call authorities if sht goes sideways.
@@Jellybeanbrains00 Nah, the only weapon we use in my country is our brain. Seems like this dude replaced his with a gun.
@@Jellybeanbrains00the fuck is your problem
so he got permission from the store owners to get the pallets but the security guards got nothing better to do so they harass a worker? also a cop would probably be allowed to shoot him if he was under arrest and refused to get out but a mall cop is no different from a regular citizen, it could be argued that the security cop was the one who started it all by pepper spraying him
I think it was all ok in the beginning but then Freddy helped some guy escape from this security and from then on they had a hunch on Freddy. Imagine the trashtalk these security guys must have given their company for whatever that official trespassing document was. Freddy never really did anything serious, so why did he even get a ban?? Exaggerated lies from this Logan POS?
He clearly was looking for an altercation and the Freddy decided to give it to him. Pinnacle of human intelligence from both sides
The store owner yes, but the property owner told the security guards not to let people do that. Watch the fucking video with 0 bias and realize that everyone involved was retarded.
@@COWPactually
That's why he got life in prison lol
They won the lawsuit. The family of Freddy recieved $21m earlier this year.
The security guard tried to mace the guy first then stood in front of the guys only exit with a gun drawn yelling at him to leave and then basically shot the guy when he reversed his car
How tf can you leave if you just got pepper sprayed 😂😂😂 Shits crazy
you're not even allowed to mace people as a security guard the only guards who use them are those who patrol in environments with active wildlife
“This job is not worth my life at $18 an hour”
Him: Gets a life sentence
the initial pepper spray from the killer just shows his intentions, he wasn't trying to deescalate and wait for police, HE IS THE LAW, YOU BETTER LISTEN TO HIM.
probaly should delete this after you watch the full thing.
@@joshuaandirende1528 why lol
@@joshuaandirende1528 you should probably delete after writing that comment
@@joshuaandirende1528juicer reading comprehension
@@joshuaandirende1528 what is blud talking about you should watch the full thing again
hope that lady wins the lawsuit
nobody deserves to lose the love of their life so undeservedly like that
"Undeservedly".
Deserved. I don't care what the context was. If person A knowingly drives into person B, a security guard doing his job and body blocking a potential thief, then person B has every right to shoot person A, mag dump them even.
Cars are big and heavy. They can do serious damage. Security officers or guards are meant to stop theft and protect property.
What's the point in having security if they can't momentarily stop someone to investigate theft allegations?
@@alkazar625
@@alkazar625 he was convicted and sentenced to life, security clearly in the wrong. Security went above the line of his job and escalated a situation that didn't need to happen, his personal feelings got in the way of his job. He stood in front of the vehicle, he has legs and could have moved away and given them time to leave, but didn't and that's exactly why he is serving life.
@villeind6159 the point of security is to NOT let them leave. He used his body as barrier and the husband used deadly force first and the guard responded accordingly.
@@alkazar625 Incorrect, the security guards are not supposed to try to stop theft AT ALL and there was no threat of violence until the security guard deliberately set it up that way. Security guards are only supposed to stop ACTUAL violence not cause it.
he got life in prison rolld n smoked
Prison for defending himself huh
to be fair he wanted this, wanted to get in situation where he could use his gun.
@@benjaminharrisiv650 prison for forcing himself into a defensive position to be able use deadly force and legally kill someone.
@benjaminharrisiv650 literally said he'd prefer to use force against the dude, didn't call cops till after he shot him, pepper sprayed both of them unlawfully. I mean I can go on he was not even defending himself he could've easily moved out of the way to let the man leave and let the cops pull him over.
@@crispysk8er77 he was security doing this job.
Bro pepper sprayed INTO the vehicle(which btw, even in an open space if you get just a whiff of, it's pretty debilitating), then got in front of the car while demanding him to leave. When the man accelerates and tries to fucking leave, he's still blocking the way then pulls a gun to shoot him. He's not even a cop, but a fucking security guard...
why i see now 0 comments mentioning race like the other videos?
xqc yotuber commenters are such hypocrites
@@GreatTaiwanaren’t they all white who cares
@@GreatTaiwan touch some grass pal
@@GreatTaiwan Because 13/50.
For being called Security, these people sure are Insecure
ex-Air Force and security gaurd yet faild measurabily to de-escalate "himself"
Security tells guy to leave but yet stands in front of the truck not allowing him to leave, nice one.
"cop"
@@askers_ security* I didn't realize I put cop
He was so deep into power playing he was festering in the moment. He got the climax he was looking for but the post nut clarity provided by the penal system probably changed how he views this moment.
"yea, can you come pick up these palets from my property. I should also mention you're banned so your not allowed to come here. How soon can you be here?"
im crying poor woman i cant imagine how traumatic it was
She actually gave Freddy a Viking burial on mound of pallets lmao
@@TheDeer99Nice of her
@@TheDeer99 holy based
why i see now 0 comments mentioning race like the other videos?
xqc yotuber commenters are such hypocrites
@@GreatTaiwanIt's just proof of their racism. Stuff like this happens all the time but it's all about race when it's the people they hate doing it.
RIP Freddie. Died like a G. Hope the wife gets the money 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
yeah he WAS a real G !!
Now he is dead and his wife is alone xD
@@Normadus Dude why are you saying xd when this woman watched her husband of 30 years die right in front of her. Do you have no empathy?
@@Normadus and a millionaire, Don’t forget millionaire
@@Highlikechapo711 provided she manages to win the money
@@darthtoaster1759 it may sound brutal, but it's true. There's always someone crazier than you, and Freddie met that person.
Main character syndrome. Dude kept escalating in hopes of getting some RP action it's plain as day. It's perfectly normal to not have it in writing to pick up the pallets, most shops just let people take them off them because it's trash anyway. Those firetrucking loser security were patrolling Lowes parking lot dressed like a SWAT team doing roleplay powertrip and harassing them over legal semantic.
"where you scared?"
"no, due to my military background and intense training i was never afraid"
there should be an iq test before you can carry guns or something.
The security was doing the most for no reason. The entire situation was overly unnecessary.
@@angulinhiduje6093 yes but that would be racist
one mans trash is another mans treasure. if i remember right these pallets are like 80€/ea in germany but it would cost the companies far more to have them picked up and brought back to them. so it is actually smart thinking to pick them up and resell them to the companies, winwin for both sides.
@@Unplayed euro pallets are usually 25 euros because they are treated against insects and mold etc (like ippc palettes)
I doubt these palettes would have all these specifications so 10 euro per palette seems more reasonable.
At least that's what is common here in germany afaik. Keep in mind that it's not the price you buy new pallets for but the deposit you pay when you buy goods on a palette
Killed a dude over pieces of wood that we throw shit on. This worlds wild
people like this are actually really common this guy yells at the dead guy WHILE HES DEAD LIKE BRO U JUST SHOT HIS HEAD WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU YELLING AT
All this over pallets? Here in the UK the companies in the past that I worked for would just through them outside hoping for them to get stolen.
You get knifed instead (uk Edition)
@@arenorg8247 OI DO YOU HAVE LOISENCE TO -AKE DOSE PALLETS??
My warehouse literally gives them away to anyone who wants them. You can sell them for like $12 each.
Life in prison MALL COP
He defended himself. Self defense situation
@@benjaminharrisiv650 Tell that to the judge bozo no police immunity here boot licker, get a JOB.
@@benjaminharrisiv650 Dude you're on every comment defending blatant murder fueled by a power trip. Logan won't fuck you bro
@@benjaminharrisiv650 WRONG
@@benjaminharrisiv650 0/10 rage bait
the security attacked them while they were in the car then stood in front of the car while they were trying to get away then used that as an excuse to open fire.
If a car is a deadly weapon and you drive forward knowing that there's a person in front of your car. That is deadly force. Cops may go against their training and body block cars because they think no sane person would dare move their car because it could result in a shooting.
The security officer should not have been convicted. Why do police get to shoot people who drive into them but us normal citizens can't? The same with the 20 foot melee rule. Cops can shoot people who charge at them with a blade if they are 20 feet away, but citizens are held to a stricter standard.
Nope. Freddy attacked security. Security defended himself.
@@benjaminharrisiv650 weak bait and you're genuinely weird for doing it on a video of such nature
@@benjaminharrisiv650 nope the security pepper spray them out of nowhere before Freddy did
@@benjaminharrisiv650 The FBI need to check your devices, if you're so obsessed with defending a murderer this badly, I can tell you definitely have some illegal gore shit that you get off to.
if anyone here is on the side of the security guard, you need to rethink your morals
anybody who comments below my comment agrees with the posters comment
rage baits have no morals
How? He had no training and decided to work anyway. He had no real authority and no right to do anything in that situation. And def not peperspray thr couple.
@@Sway22 so are you against the security guard? Cause i think hes a piece of shit
@@Sway22 everyone I see in this thread agrees that the security guard is wrong? Idk what you're saying how to
so if the security guard moved his body away from the car this would literally end with the guy leaving ?
wtf is wrong with this guy's ego
Getting in front of a car and complaining that its moving forward is as mentally insane as running through a firing range and complaining that you almosts got shot
Right! Ahahaha
why i see now 0 comments mentioning race like the other videos?
xqc yotuber commenters are such hypocrites
kinda funny why i see now 0 comments mentioning race like the other videos?
xqc yotuber commenters are such hypocrites
@@GreatTaiwan because they're closet racist against white people
@@GreatTaiwan What do you mean? A white man was shot by a white cop. Its pretty cut and dry.
20:23 “SECURITY GUARD JUST SHOT MY HUSBAND”. “It’s OFFICER mam”
i went back to that timestamp cause i genuinely believed he'd say something like that lmao sounds in character. this loser wasn't an officer, just some public servant jannie for the plaza. his ego and power tripping was disgusting. the fact his main concern was constantly repeating his justification as to why he shot freddy FOUR times (and even correcting some people like the lady on the phone) to everyone around him instead of trying to immediately find any possible way to render aid for this dude bleeding out is disturbing. no moral compass. the icing on the cake was him asking his boss for the day off the next day so casually like he didn't just kill someone, and his wife of 30 years wasn't sobbing and screaming beside him. it's actually terrifying seeing such a lack of empathy.
@@forevergirI We are all just sacks of meat. He wasn't married to that guy for 30 years, so the screaming is more annoying than anything
@@someoneinthecrowd4313sanest juicer
@@someoneinthecrowd4313 dude, are you okay
@@someoneinthecrowd4313 Get yourself checked. Thank you.
Logan C Gimbel convicted of second-degree murder and sentenced to serve a minimum of 25 years in prison until possibility of parole. May 23 open and shut.
yeah doesnt do justice for his 3 kids and wife tho.what a lunatic man
RIP FREDDY...
America and these absolute clown laws lmfao.
How can a Store say yes and the Property owner say No that is absolutely dumb. There should always be only one Party that has authority to decide if YES or NO
Thats like Renting a House and the landlord says person xyz is not allowed to be IN YOUR RENTED House
The security is brain dead. He should have just ignored it like who tf cares about pallets?
I worked loss prevention and security after I got out of the army. It’s super clear your just deterrence you can’t do shit except ask nicely 99 percent of the time. This guys done.
He's probably thinking "Meh.. His wife had a pretty nice reaction but idk how long I can be in prison before I'm bored."
True. And what he did was totally unnecessary. I’m sleeping half my shift anyway so no time to do a homicide on a customer.
@@coldchillin8382 I slept most of mine too or watched UA-cam 🤣🤣🤣
Sad how fucked up security can be. They never have any actual power unless violence is in play, because they can't even legally arrest/detain anyone unless a violent felony is looming. They are so useless that they legally can't even get them to leave the property, which is why a security company is just completely useless, their best bet would just to immediately call PD.
anyone can legally detain someone if you witness them committing a crime. that's what citizens arrest is. that would also most likely get them fired.
It is sad how the guy in the car assaulted him.
@brendolbreadwar2671 true. Cant hate the security. The security _company_ deserves all hate
@DescendDab indeed. They really had multiple security guards carrying guns without a permit. It's open carry but that doesn't apply.
@@brendolbreadwar2671 might hate the security
Ah yes, NOW I can eat breakfast.
you can eat breakfast while seeing an innocent man getting shot?
-_-
@@choochoosmusic791 yup. It did piss me off a lil tho
Eggs with a side of middle aged women’s blood curdling screams
@@zxbuza5593🎉🎉🎉🎉
i hate to hear her scream and tell him that she loves him.. i hope everything goes well for her in the future and her loved ones too.. RIP Freddy ❤️🕊️
Huge miscommunication disaster. Property never formally trespassed the dude, dude only had a verbal agreement with the Lowe's trash lady who hadn't informed the property, and security never called police about the dude because of their ego. Crazy.
They were TOLD it was ok for Freddy to be there by the manager.
@@Kanggaxxin the video it says that the Lowe’s manager said it was okay but the lowe’s manager is not in charge of the property as a whole
why i see now 0 comments mentioning race like the other videos?
xqc yotuber commenters are such hypocrites
He was trespassed multiple times. Not sure what you mean by "formally" trespassed. And security did contact police. They had a BOLO and instructions to detain the man until police arrive if he refuses to comply with the trespass.
@@phaedrus000security can’t detain; only police officers can. The most he could do is citizens arrest, but it would be better to keep an eye on him until the police arrive to prevent a physical altercation.
Security gaurd failed to become a cop so he settled with being a third rate security guard that looks for opportunities to unload his gun for the pettiest reasons
🎯 shows that security guards should not be allowed to carry a firearm.
@@ObserversOfHumanitythere’s more security guards than police in most cities. After 911, security really boomed. So yea, we need them, but not this guy.
Nahh idc, those 5th-hand security losers deserve prison
just imagine all the innocent people he killed in the military, you can easily tell by his demeanor this is not his first or second time ..
why do they give roleplayers actual guns
"Leave my property" *pepper sprays, making him unable to drive*
nah. nah you only use your fucking gun when your life is in danger. this security guard needs a fucking reality check.
oh he is gonna get something checked if u kno im sayin
Dumb and Dumber on meth as security guards
Rolled and smocked. imagine all you have to do is call the cops on your job and you put yourself infront of a car after peperspraying someone. worst life decisions from that guy
"this 18$ job isnt worth risking my life"
does everything he can to get a life in prision...
“It’s unclear if Freddy was given a formal trespass”
That means no
The guy who obviously wants to fight: "You're looking for a fight dude and when you do I'm gonna take you down!" This guy should be in the UFC or something where he's paid to hurt people, not working security with a gun he shouldn't have in the first place.
this security guard is the type to say "security guard business is dangerous you know we have to work harder than cops"
Man "stealing pallets" gets magdumped full of pellets by security guard andy
On top of being a straight up murderer, that fake policeman is actually insane. Like the way he screams at a dead man trying to justify his actions while the wife is screaming is some psycopath shit. Also, how does he expect him to leave at all after trying to pepper spray him? He can't fucking see
I feel like this wannabe cop saw too many "Police Activity" videos, where the cops position themselves infront of the suspect car, to stop them from leaving and otherwise use deadly force because the vehicle is like a deadly weapon.
But even then, most cops jump to the side and dont even use their gun at all, they just threaten to use it and then it ends up in a chase most of the time.
Also they didn't tell the suspect to leave, while blocking the only 1 possible way to leave.
This is ridiculous and so cringe.
Lil bro thought he has the same rights as the real police and doesn't even have a license to carry a firearm. HOLY YIKES
He wasn’t trained and it shows because he didn’t know what tf he was doing. The security company should be held liable as well for hiring this clown and not checking his licenses.
Original EWU video got taken down for copyright by "Cornerstone Security Group", that's insane
They can't hide this from the public. Any decent security company management would have recognized this guy is not fit to be a security guard, much less a armed one.
Corner Stone Security Group Copyright struck the original EWU video.
Update from a while ago he got life in prison
He can appeal for self defense
@@benjaminharrisiv650 weak bait and thats not how it works lil bro he already pled self defense in the first trial
@@benjaminharrisiv650 you so lonely and sad
@@benjaminharrisiv650 Yeah, he can appeal for self defense and it will get approved after 9 thousands years later. Good luck!
@@benjaminharrisiv650holy dick ride
dying over Lowes is crazy
I remember our team hearing about this. I’ve worked Security Management in Portland for a couple of years. Definitely not the easiest city to work in this industry with some of the issues we run into on a daily basis. Getting your Armed DPSST certification takes time and it’s pivotal you understand the power you have once completed. Biggest thing is deescalation and having empathy in these situations. It’s horrible this happened the way it did, and it’s devastating for everyone affected. RIP to Freddy.
*I feel so so sad for the wife*
All he had to do was call the manager and let him say he is allowed on phone.
Nice handful of people here trying to defend this guard…
EWU is starting to bug me with the whole "most twisted case they have ever seen" "little did they know it would take a horrifying turn" "most disturbing case they had ever recieved" for almost every single video now lol
thats a giga lawsuit for a woman she would clear them
If he wanted to de-escalate he would have left him leave then let the cops deal with it, not blocking his car in with his body to force a confrontation.
25:37 dustbin ahh psyco saying "yep yep" like IT knows the protocol
“It’s officer” actually you are mall cop so it’s barely “sir”
As a security guard myself, this definitely didn’t have to end in bloodshed. Our job is to observe and report. On the other hand tho he shouldn’t have moved the vehicle forward, that vehicle is a deadly weapon. It could still have been resolved differently without this kind of force.
This should be used as a training video to vet out any and all security jobs. Anyone that thinks lethal force at any point made sense here needs to be blacklisted from the industry.
@@qonra any reputable security company will train you by going over actual training videos of incidents like this, security guards have no obligation to use force in any circumstance even in active shooter situations if you can flee or hide you are taught to do that instead of using deadly force, this is just a insane person on a power trip looking for a legal kill
He told him to leave after pepper spraying him in a closed environment. Dude probably couldn’t even see properly.
i think it is pretty telling that he just stands by and waits for him to bleed out instead of applying immediate first aid ....
I am NOT defending the security officer. Probably 100 things Logan did wrong. That being said, Freddy could probably have avoided this tragic incident by trying to clear the situation up and or not visiting again. I am NOT defending the security officer. Also the woman who was handling the trash also could have made an effort to clear it up between the different parties. I am NOT defending the security officer.
Unfortunately, he ran into a much stupider asshole than he was, and that idiot had a gun and has obviously been waiting his whole life to end someone else's. I can't blame Freddy at all, I know a dozen plus men that would act the same way towards some wannabe mall cop because logically, that guy's not going to shoot you unless he's monumentally stupid.
You’re correct. Both parties are at fault and had their egos up. Why deal with a clearly unstable security with a gun?
The emotional cop. What a way to be remembered
All this over trash…. the corner store company and security is stupid. I don’t even know if a leasing company can say “hey this person can’t pick up YOUR TRASH” it’s nonsense. Lowe’s owes the trash and they have every right to ask someone to pick it up. The idea of somehow the person you leasing from controlling the garbage is ridiculous.
They aren’t controlling the garbage they’re controlling access to the property
These "mall cops" are over stepping their boundaries. The overall property manager can hire security guards to watch the property, but the lease holder also has rights. A security guard has an obligation to check with the lease holder and verify who there vendors are. If Lowes says he is a vendor, and is there to pick up pallets. Then if he isn't doing anything wrong outside of his stated business then they should be leaving him alone
why does every police officer/security guard i see in USA always escalate the situansions instead of deescalating them
because every incident you see is probably on the news or youtube and they only show the bad encounters on the news, not the ones that are resolved peacefully
Come see me at work. De-escalate is all I do.
In Australia businesses leave pallets on the side of the street for anyone to collect, so strange that this conflict escalated from pallets
this is what happens when you give fairys a gun
What I hate also is that he didn’t call 911 right after or try to get help to render aid asap, he wanted him to die literally. It’s MURDER
Okay I literally just watched this video last night from my recommended and had no idea he streamed it wtf
also got the recommendation but I'll know my juicer will watch this
Literally same I knew he'd react to it.
popular = watch LULW
Happened like 4 times now. I watch the full vid and refresh and X already reacted to it
@@noah-xu7uq I fr waste my time watching anything anymore when he just reacts to everything
this is so fkn sad rest in peace Freddy
that dumb MALL cop literally have ego pumping through it(iykyk) instead of what normal male pumps adrenaline
“Don’t worry about it Logan”
“As it turned it this was an issue that he would need to worry about”
Dude failed rp hard and got banned
why is xqc trying to do his own investigation just watch the video 😂
why do security guards carry real guns, i can only see that being ok if they are trained on how to self control
He wasn’t trained and shouldn’t have had one. He didn’t even have a license to carry it on the job.
Security guards don't carry real guns. If they do carry anything it's just a flashlight/club and maybe pepper spray. Only private security use real guns.
He had plenty of time to move and he put himself in front of a car and stayed when he heard the engine start
my faith in american intelligence becomes smaller and smaller every day
XQC >""idk the laws of pepper spray maybe im out of my league in this one" out of your league like 99% of the takes you do yes
Nowhere is perfect but honestly fuck living in America you can get these genuine sociopaths who can sign up to be armed authority figures for their deranged power trips.
You think this only happens in America? 😂😂😂 You are not a real breathing human behind that screen
He is not legitimate armed authority figure. All he did was illegal from owning a gun to shooting it. Not a gun problem but a person problem.
@@chuck948 never is the guns fault eh? You guys love to make fun of knife crime etc but for every horror story I’ve read about European knife crime I just imagine how much more damage could’ve been done with guns.
It’s 100% a gun problem too
@@laloTav1972 Who the fuck is you guys. Cult like hivemind mentality seek help
@@laloTav1972 "for every horror story I’ve read about European knife crime"
Wow, it's almost like criminals don't follow the law or something, that's craaazy man!
Dude wasn't in the wrong spot, he was out of the way, but the driver angled the wheels at him.
just why? MALL cops and gun wow what a joke
Good thing they caught him before he slipped through the cracks becoming a cop
Ex Burgerforce officer*
shot for trespassing is insane
It doesn't matter whether the guard was right, the drivers ego told him to disregard a guy pointing a gun at him. What, he's gonna have "The guard shouldn't have" on his tombstone? Don't play chicken with an armed person threatening to shoot you just because you think your balls are bigger than his.
insane way to shift the blame to the dude who got shot 😂
Logan Gimbel wasn’t qualified to be security guard or have a firearm he wasn’t trained in either.
guilty or not dude was just getting pallets which are trash and mall cop acted like he was taking gold. every time the security loser escalated the situation instead of letting police to deal with it. if police dealt with it no one wouldve been shot and freddy would’ve probably listened. all these idiot rage bait comments should probably become a security officer
will the guy is an ex-Airforce we all know them as the most ego self-centred f faces .. they all look down on us
Why would they need to call the police? The only one that was doing something illegal was the security guard, the pallet guy had every legal right to be there, permission from the manager who told him to take the pallets on multiple occasions and told the security guard 3 times that they were allowed.
@@DragonReaver yeah ik im not on the security officers side buddy
@@tortoisetanker87 It does not matter whos side you are on I was pointing out a fallacy that's all, even if you are 'on the same side' as me.
@@DragonReaver who asked for your opinion tho lmao
that's hilarious the "security" dude was crying about the situation to some random person who had no choice but to listen.
The gaurd purposefully ramped the situation up to get to that point. He waned to do something towards the victim. I agree if someone points a car at you and starts at you, you can shoot them. But not if you stand in front of the car unpurpose. .
This is like when NoPixel cops intentionally run in front of crims cars so they get run over and can justify shooting except this guy barely even moved
You know what America needs ? more guns. What if she had a gun and the driver had one. Then its 2 vs 1 gun. And 2 guns always win over 1 gun = More guns is good. MERICA
the security guard could have had a back up gun, then its 2 guns vs. 2 guns, not great odds, they should each have 2 just to be safe, then its 4 vs. 2
he wasn't licensed by his agency to have a gun, he wasn't supposed to have it. Implying that he would just ignore whatever laws you are promoting.
The shoot was justified. Using a cop's standard, if you drive towards someone that is deadly force or intent to kill. That husband knew the guard was right there and chose to drive into him.
What's the point of security if they can't investigate people on the premises for possible theft?
Yeah he was unregistered but his claim to self defense still stands.
@@alkazar625 it clearly didn't stand because he got life in prison
@@alkazar625 Telling the dude to leave the property while standing in front of his vehicle?
This is just so stupid and there's a reason why security guards are not cops. This guy tells him to leave the property, gets in front of the car when he tries to drive away, and then tells him not to move his truck or he'll shoot him. So many conflicting orders all at once. Security guard is 100% in the wrong. He shouldn't even have a gun if his first reaction is to shoot the guy instead of GETTING OUT OF THE WAY.
Stand your ground / castle law only applies to your personal home
No it does not.... That law varies state to state. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about😂😂
Literally just spend 10 seconds and google Florida or Texas stand your ground laws it specifically says stand your ground and you have no duty to retreat in public spaces... Please. Delete your account
@@300apeslil bro is obsessed with him 😭😭😭😭
@cartanfan-youtube You okay weirdo?
@cartanfan-youtube No way this weirdo has a furry picture making comments with "lil bro"😂😂😂 Holy corny tiktok addict 😂
You’re trespassed leave
Proceeds to not make him leave