Another great video, Connie. I’d like to add that if you’re on a budget and just in it for ethnicity, then 23andMe is a great test for that. If you’re an adoptee, like myself, AncestryDNA has the larger database and combined with the tools they offer, it’s a better choice if you’re looking for bio family. Then of course uploading your test to all the free websites is an added bonus. Thanks for getting the word out!!
That was a lot to take in. I'm going to watch that video again. A complex subject, carefully explained by Connie. Thank you for all of your hard work in helping us understand an overview of how DNA testing works. I know it's just the tip of the iceberg but it's a sound starting point.
Excellent analysis of some complex stuff. Since I already had a tree in Ancestry, using them for my DNA worked out OK. My ethnicity estimates have been adjusted over the years. Kept hoping for something surprising....nope. Glad to hear about downloading data for possible future questions.
Great analysis, Constance, Like & Subscribed! Quick question, can a woman find out who her father's father's father was with a Y-DNA test, not because she has XX and no XY? Thanks!
Potentially yes if there is a brother of the female who took the YDNA test. Because women don’t have YDNA she would need a male in the family to take the test. A descending male cousin could take the YDNA test as well.
@@GenealogyTV Here's the potential problem with that - She does have a brother, but there's a verbal history (from their deceased mother) that says her ACTUAL father was different than her brother's. The brother's father is still alive, but not really in the picture. My friend looks very Italian as opposed to her brother who looks very very much like their father, and NOT like my friend at all. The brother's father does have a daughter (with another woman) who could potentially provide DNA, but I'm not sure if that would help in excluding the father of the brother (and/or this half-sister) from my friend. I guess what we're trying to do is avoid the father for his DNA, and potentially opening an old wound. Thanks for your help, I'll definitely hit your Patreon up! Ironically, I have a similar issue with my family tree, but my friend did the standard test with Ancestry and there's no sign of Italian in her DNA, and I'm trying to help her settle this once and for all. Thanks!
I'm more interested in finding out my ethnicity percentages, than discovering specific relatives/names etc. Which would be best for the ethnicity percentages?
ancestry.com. However, ethnicity estimates are only estimates. They change as the sample set change it. Don’t put a lot of value in ethnicity estimate.
@@GenealogyTV . Thanks for pointing that out. If you look at my different estimates over time, you would think I was several different people. Gedmatch has been the most consistent. Too many people put alot of emphasis of percentages to discount ancestry or try and put people in a box. Forget about all of the other ethnicities that is in our dna. That's some people's attitude. Genealogy is also the way to go to confirm ancestry.
I would think if you plugged them in and let the thrulines work for a week or two in ancestry that you could get results to see if it was one brother or another, one would get you cousins and one would get cousins from the parents mainly...and the count of the dna would clue you in...
Here is what I don't get. A student from one of my classes did a project where he submitted his dna multiple times to the SAME company and got very different results. He wasn't in the same class as me the following semester so I never got to hear why that could be. I cant find anything on the internet about others doing this. How could this be possible?
You can get different results in ethnicity estimates because over time the base sample they compare our test to keeps evolving. They’re also testing us against all the other test takers is constantly growing. So even my own ethnicity estimates have updated several times over the years. Just remember they are estimates. What is not estimated are the cousin matches. That’s where the gold is located.
It’s kind of a long story, but they take people who are currently living so they can capture their DNA, who also have very deep roots in that area. This is not just a random group of DNA samples.
Tee Bear. You did not say whether your friend received differing ethnicities from his multiple submissions to the same company OR received different cousin matches one test to another. If your friend submitted multiple samples to the same company within the same very short period of time- his results as to ethnicity AND his DNA matches would be identical or near identical EXCEPT each succeeding test would return additional dna cousin matches on EACH SUBSEQUENT TEST. This is because additional testers are added to each testing co’s count daily. A few of the new testers will match your friend. The only caveat would be IF the testing company changed their mathematical algorithms OR upgraded their electronic chip OR changed/expanded their reference sample base. Either of these changes WILL trigger fairly minor changes in ones ethnicity report AND ones cousin matches. However, the changes will affect each already existing test of himself. Comparing an earlier test with a later test is an apples to oranges comparison. He’d need to compare the UPDATED earlier dna test report with his updated subsequent dna test report for a true apple to apple comparison. Doing this He’d find them identical or near identical as to both ethnicities and dna cousin matches. BTW the dna test sites do not change these 3 key factors often. Think once or twice yearly. FamilyTreeDNA is much slower to update btw. Ancestry most often, 23andMe next then MyHeritage then LivingDNA. Bottom line- I suspect your friend was fibbing or pulling your leg OR he tested more than once with different test companies but failed to make this clear. Bear in mind- neither ethnicity estimate reports nor dna cousin matches will ever be identical company to company. In a few years ethnicity reports will align better company to company though. But dna cousin reporting will always vary because people generally test only at a single company. We genealogists do tend to test with multiple companies because we have less interest in ethnicity than finding dna cousins who can help correct or fill out our family trees as well as make new friends from newfound relatives.
@@Isleskye His ethnicity was different. He did this for a college course and had a very good presentation showing all the results. Ge got an A for the assignment which was really god considering the professor didn't give them lightly. After seeing his presentation and later watching some of the twins results on youtube I'm convinced the dna testing is just for fun and shouldn't be taken too seriously.
I hope you could help me with my question, my biological daughter took a DNA test, the results were she had 8% Apache on the maternal side. I took the test and there was no Apache? How does that happen? I am her mother.
Would having my brother test for Y-DNA help me in my research of my paternal grandfather and his ancestors? He left the family when my father and his sister were 6 and 4 and I’m trying to track him down and when his parents came to the U.S from Germany and where in Germany they lived. Why are these tests so expensive? (I’m new to genealogy) Thanks
Keep in mind there’s no guarantee that it will solve your family history mystery. But YDNA is the exact same DNA as the grandfather. I would highly recommend taking an ancestry DNA test first, if money is an issue.
@@GenealogyTV Thank you. I took a 23 and me and he did My Heritage then we both uploaded to GEDmatch. Disappointed that besides my brother,no one else is closer than 3rd + cousin. I’ve heard Ancestry has a larger base,so should I still test there? I just ordered him a YDNA test from Family Tree for $240, hope it’s nota waste of $
I spent good money doing different tests in different companies. Got the results, especially the Y-DNA and mtDNA from FamilyTreeDNA. Gosh, I'm so confused and can't see any utility in those 2 tests from Y-DNA and mt-DNA. I got the Haplogroups codes, and so? Looking at those tables with numbers and countries' names just make things confusing. I only see it all started in Africa, and we don't need tests for that, and a huge list of names from lots of countries related to the genes trajectory along thousands of years. I still don't get it :(
Rey... start with your research question. What is it you're trying to know? If you're not sure, start with AncestryDNA. Then watch this episode about DNA Matches. ua-cam.com/video/vm9WRkyaE14/v-deo.html
Isabel... Well having a location is a start, that's a big help. You can estimate his range of years (birth - death) will also help. You might consider doing a DNA test too to see if you get any cousin matches. If you do, then seek out those cousin matches that you know are not on your mothers side (so they have to be on your fathers side) and look at the closest cousin matches (on your fathers side) who have trees. Does that sound like it would help? If you have your fathers name, approximate birth and or death years and a corresponding place, you can do a general search on FamilySearch.org or on Ancestry. I recommend using AncestryDNA (if you've not done so already). You'll get more cousin matches there. Here's a link to AncestryDNA, currently on sale if you need it... prf.hn/click/camref:1101l4aFW/creativeref:1011l41558 If you're in Europe, you might also consider MyHeritage for both DNA and research.
Another great video, Connie. I’d like to add that if you’re on a budget and just in it for ethnicity, then 23andMe is a great test for that. If you’re an adoptee, like myself, AncestryDNA has the larger database and combined with the tools they offer, it’s a better choice if you’re looking for bio family. Then of course uploading your test to all the free websites is an added bonus. Thanks for getting the word out!!
That was a lot to take in. I'm going to watch that video again. A complex subject, carefully explained by Connie. Thank you for all of your hard work in helping us understand an overview of how DNA testing works. I know it's just the tip of the iceberg but it's a sound starting point.
Connie, That was a very good explanation of the different types of tests and how the X & Y chomosomes are passed down. Thanks! Debbie Jones
Thanks Debbie
Thank you for this information, you explained the difference between the tests very well.
Thanks
Excellent analysis of some complex stuff.
Since I already had a tree in Ancestry, using them for my DNA worked out OK. My ethnicity estimates have been adjusted over the years. Kept hoping for something surprising....nope.
Glad to hear about downloading data for possible future questions.
Thanks for sharing!
Very well explained.Thank you.
Watching from South-Eastern Norway (new subscriber July 2020)
Wow. Nice to see you.
Great analysis, Constance, Like & Subscribed! Quick question, can a woman find out who her father's father's father was with a Y-DNA test, not because she has XX and no XY? Thanks!
Potentially yes if there is a brother of the female who took the YDNA test. Because women don’t have YDNA she would need a male in the family to take the test. A descending male cousin could take the YDNA test as well.
@@GenealogyTV Here's the potential problem with that - She does have a brother, but there's a verbal history (from their deceased mother) that says her ACTUAL father was different than her brother's. The brother's father is still alive, but not really in the picture. My friend looks very Italian as opposed to her brother who looks very very much like their father, and NOT like my friend at all. The brother's father does have a daughter (with another woman) who could potentially provide DNA, but I'm not sure if that would help in excluding the father of the brother (and/or this half-sister) from my friend. I guess what we're trying to do is avoid the father for his DNA, and potentially opening an old wound. Thanks for your help, I'll definitely hit your Patreon up! Ironically, I have a similar issue with my family tree, but my friend did the standard test with Ancestry and there's no sign of Italian in her DNA, and I'm trying to help her settle this once and for all. Thanks!
I love that statement "she liked having kids but not the father "
Thanks what happened to my husband
I know right? It's quite a story.
I'm more interested in finding out my ethnicity percentages, than discovering specific relatives/names etc. Which would be best for the ethnicity percentages?
ancestry.com. However, ethnicity estimates are only estimates. They change as the sample set change it. Don’t put a lot of value in ethnicity estimate.
@@GenealogyTV . Thanks for pointing that out. If you look at my different estimates over time, you would think I was several different people. Gedmatch has been the most consistent. Too many people put alot of emphasis of percentages to discount ancestry or try and put people in a box. Forget about all of the other ethnicities that is in our dna. That's some people's attitude. Genealogy is also the way to go to confirm ancestry.
I would think if you plugged them in and let the thrulines work for a week or two in ancestry that you could get results to see if it was one brother or another, one would get you cousins and one would get cousins from the parents mainly...and the count of the dna would clue you in...
Here is what I don't get. A student from one of my classes did a project where he submitted his dna multiple times to the SAME company and got very different results. He wasn't in the same class as me the following semester so I never got to hear why that could be. I cant find anything on the internet about others doing this. How could this be possible?
You can get different results in ethnicity estimates because over time the base sample they compare our test to keeps evolving. They’re also testing us against all the other test takers is constantly growing. So even my own ethnicity estimates have updated several times over the years. Just remember they are estimates. What is not estimated are the cousin matches. That’s where the gold is located.
It’s kind of a long story, but they take people who are currently living so they can capture their DNA, who also have very deep roots in that area. This is not just a random group of DNA samples.
Tee Bear. You did not say whether your friend received differing ethnicities from his multiple submissions to the same company OR received different cousin matches one test to another. If your friend submitted multiple samples to the same company within the same very short period of time- his results as to ethnicity AND his DNA matches would be identical or near identical EXCEPT each succeeding test would return additional dna cousin matches on EACH SUBSEQUENT TEST. This is because additional testers are added to each testing co’s count daily. A few of the new testers will match your friend.
The only caveat would be IF the testing company changed their mathematical algorithms OR upgraded their electronic chip OR changed/expanded their reference sample base. Either of these changes WILL trigger fairly minor changes in ones ethnicity report AND ones cousin matches. However, the changes will affect each already existing test of himself. Comparing an earlier test with a later test is an apples to oranges comparison. He’d need to compare the UPDATED earlier dna test report with his updated subsequent dna test report for a true apple to apple comparison.
Doing this He’d find them identical or near identical as to both ethnicities and dna cousin matches. BTW the dna test sites do not change these 3 key factors often. Think once or twice yearly. FamilyTreeDNA is much slower to update btw. Ancestry most often, 23andMe next then MyHeritage then LivingDNA.
Bottom line- I suspect your friend was fibbing or pulling your leg OR he tested more than once with different test companies but failed to make this clear. Bear in mind- neither ethnicity estimate reports nor dna cousin matches will ever be identical company to company. In a few years ethnicity reports will align better company to company though. But dna cousin reporting will always vary because people generally test only at a single company. We genealogists do tend to test with multiple companies because we have less interest in ethnicity than finding dna cousins who can help correct or fill out our family trees as well as make new friends from newfound relatives.
@@Isleskye His ethnicity was different. He did this for a college course and had a very good presentation showing all the results. Ge got an A for the assignment which was really god considering the professor didn't give them lightly. After seeing his presentation and later watching some of the twins results on youtube I'm convinced the dna testing is just for fun and shouldn't be taken too seriously.
I hope you could help me with my question, my biological daughter took a DNA test, the results were she had 8% Apache on the maternal side. I took the test and there was no Apache? How does that happen? I am her mother.
The ethnicity results are just estimates and are constantly changing. I'm wondering if you still have the same issue now after 5 months.
Would having my brother test for Y-DNA help me in my research of my paternal grandfather and his ancestors? He left the family when my father and his sister were 6 and 4 and I’m trying to track him down and when his parents came to the U.S from Germany and where in Germany they lived. Why are these tests so expensive? (I’m new to genealogy) Thanks
If I understand your question correctly, yes having your brother take a YDNA test will help the paternal line.
Keep in mind there’s no guarantee that it will solve your family history mystery. But YDNA is the exact same DNA as the grandfather. I would highly recommend taking an ancestry DNA test first, if money is an issue.
@@GenealogyTV Thank you. I took a 23 and me and he did My Heritage then we both uploaded to GEDmatch. Disappointed that besides my brother,no one else is closer than 3rd + cousin. I’ve heard Ancestry has a larger base,so should I still test there? I just ordered him a YDNA test from Family Tree for $240, hope it’s nota waste of $
I spent good money doing different tests in different companies. Got the results, especially the Y-DNA and mtDNA from FamilyTreeDNA. Gosh, I'm so confused and can't see any utility in those 2 tests from Y-DNA and mt-DNA. I got the Haplogroups codes, and so? Looking at those tables with numbers and countries' names just make things confusing. I only see it all started in Africa, and we don't need tests for that, and a huge list of names from lots of countries related to the genes trajectory along thousands of years. I still don't get it :(
Rey... start with your research question. What is it you're trying to know? If you're not sure, start with AncestryDNA. Then watch this episode about DNA Matches. ua-cam.com/video/vm9WRkyaE14/v-deo.html
For Y DNA Looks strange you knew about Rebecca Henley’s mum. How is that?
If you knew the mum then also the dad.
No she had children out of wedlock. I've researched her side extensively.
What happens if ik my whole moms heritage but I dont really know much about my dad but that he's from a specific place in a specific country
Isabel... Well having a location is a start, that's a big help. You can estimate his range of years (birth - death) will also help. You might consider doing a DNA test too to see if you get any cousin matches. If you do, then seek out those cousin matches that you know are not on your mothers side (so they have to be on your fathers side) and look at the closest cousin matches (on your fathers side) who have trees. Does that sound like it would help? If you have your fathers name, approximate birth and or death years and a corresponding place, you can do a general search on FamilySearch.org or on Ancestry. I recommend using AncestryDNA (if you've not done so already). You'll get more cousin matches there. Here's a link to AncestryDNA, currently on sale if you need it... prf.hn/click/camref:1101l4aFW/creativeref:1011l41558
If you're in Europe, you might also consider MyHeritage for both DNA and research.
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Mostly in North Carolina and the UK.