Shared DNA Matches - the only DNA Tool You will Ever Need

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  • Опубліковано 11 чер 2023
  • If you have spent any time at all trying to make sense of your DNA tests your initial excitement was likely quickly replaced with overwhelm and frustration.

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  • @andrehill4654
    @andrehill4654 8 місяців тому +15

    Ya know, I'm 10 months in and this lady makes good sense. I've had to watch this video several times to really comprehend what she's saying, but it makes sense to me.

  • @LatashaCarter
    @LatashaCarter 8 місяців тому +10

    I feel so excited...I was doing this without even knowing that was what I was doing 🎉

  • @Christycat927
    @Christycat927 8 місяців тому +35

    This works for most people it seems like... but, it can be extremely hard to break out groups when there are double/triple etc cousins that cross over both sides of the families and cross over between best first matches. It's basically a nightmare if you have families that stayed in tight nit groups like in the Appalachians or if siblings married neighbor siblings of another family... It is very hard for me to break out other "leftovers" when generally the whole groups leads back to the same people... and everyone has the same information and thus we all have the same brick wall.

    • @Gonzalez22222
      @Gonzalez22222 7 місяців тому +6

      She addressed this in the presentation. It doesn’t work well with endogamy.

    • @JamieNowicki
      @JamieNowicki 7 місяців тому +5

      I had this in my tree. I had to go up grandparent levels and start there. I can't use first or second cousins. From there, the triangulation method is great. There are videos on that on UA-cam

    • @debjordan4399
      @debjordan4399 6 місяців тому +2

      I have this issue also. many 3rd and more distant cousins shared between my parents.

    • @taram9409
      @taram9409 6 місяців тому +1

      I am dealing with this too. I have a ton of Appalachian ancestors, with many double cousins, and shared matches on my grandma and grandpa's side.

    • @sandywallace1154
      @sandywallace1154 5 місяців тому +2

      My father's side was from Nantucket- lots of endogamy

  • @b.s7771
    @b.s7771 4 місяці тому +7

    I did this! I made a huge discovery. Thank U!

  • @jyoung5102
    @jyoung5102 3 місяці тому +2

    I unfortunately missed RT this year. Stumbled onto this session. Wow! It made me so excited. Can’t wait to get started jettying my dots and starting over and working the plan. If I get stuck I’ll buy the book. Great presentation!

  • @lisaquigley-moon9583
    @lisaquigley-moon9583 9 місяців тому +12

    My husband's grandfather was adopted in the 1890s. I am in a southern state & he was in Michigan Detroit's surrounding area. So I don't have much opportunity to go there. So I kept thinking he might have been an orphan train baby. My husband is passed but if still like to solve the mystery for his children.

    • @douglashoppe310
      @douglashoppe310 2 місяці тому

      In my family tree (S.E. Michigan) I identified an illegitimate ancestor who was an out of wedlock child of a French-Canadian, Catholic family. After researching and comparing shared DNA matches, I found that this out of wedlock childbirth seemed very common during this pre birth control time period.

  • @JaneAirUK
    @JaneAirUK 4 місяці тому +16

    Absolutely. So it's shocking that some companies are now withholding these DNA results when you purchase a test (after informing you shared matches will be included) Appalling treatment of customers. If you are a free user, turn off your matches on Ancestry - don't let them use your results to create something to sell to others but withhold from you. Those with membership need to complain too as your service will be affected by free users deleting trees, leaving, or turning off DNA matches.

  • @kapmanrich
    @kapmanrich 3 місяці тому +3

    What a great job of teaching us about this plan. You have a gift!

  • @TrevorEMayo
    @TrevorEMayo 5 місяців тому +7

    One of the primary problems leading to 19th century genealogy gaps for most American descendants of slaves is the impact of slave breeding farms. Many women trapped in those environments didn't know who the fathers were of their children. And the fathers especially if they were white didn't care to know.

    • @JustCallMeJaph
      @JustCallMeJaph Місяць тому

      I wonder if the lady spoken of at the beginning has a video of her specific process. I'd like to know how she found her 2X great-grandfather's brother and how she linked them together. I'm sure her process has a few extra steps beyond what the presenter shared here.

  • @badhairdaylady
    @badhairdaylady 9 місяців тому +8

    My brick wall is my maternal great grandmother. The thing of it is, she's also my paternal great grandmother because my parents are 1st cousin 1x removed. My research is about 25 years in and still have not broken through that brick wall! My test was done at Ancestry, and I manage 25 DNA kits. This great grandmother is the 2nd wife of great grandpa so there are also half cousins!

    • @SamStone1964
      @SamStone1964 9 місяців тому +3

      Have you put your DNA matches into colour coded groups as provided by Ancestry?

    • @alexandracruz5243
      @alexandracruz5243 8 місяців тому +5

      Try uploading your raw data to other companies like Myheritage, since you can find more people outside the US.

  • @PeterStawicki
    @PeterStawicki 6 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for giving me another way to look at my DNA results. I have basically been treating them as find a name and match. I will be trying to break these down into the dots and seeing what kind of results I get.

  • @BonnieDragonKat
    @BonnieDragonKat Рік тому +3

    I am trying this! Exciting. Thanks Diane!

  • @julieaskew2576
    @julieaskew2576 2 місяці тому

    I'm in the UK and what you say makes total sense, so much so I've just lashed out on your book from Amazon £27.99!
    My Mystery ancestors are Pauley 3rd gt and Miller 4th gt. On one line I have gone as far back as 7th gt grandparents recently so I'm buoyed up after this achievement.

  • @marklazaroff7213
    @marklazaroff7213 7 місяців тому +8

    A constant frustration is that the vast majority of matches I have are 1 or 2 person trees. I suspect this is the result of marketing ethic profiles.

    • @mandlerparr1
      @mandlerparr1 6 місяців тому +4

      yeah, but we wouldn't have those matches at all without it because a lot just dn't care about the genealogy.

    • @JustCallMeJaph
      @JustCallMeJaph Місяць тому

      I've experienced that before. I was able to use Google for matches with a full name or a first initial and full surname as their username. Or if they at least have one grandparent in their tree, you can try searching for an obituary for that grandparent to help figure out who they are.

  • @AmyWest-nr5gi
    @AmyWest-nr5gi 11 місяців тому +11

    Is there a study sheet to print out anywhere?

  • @bec10872
    @bec10872 3 місяці тому +1

    So well explained. I'm going to use this with my husband to find out who his grandfather is.

  • @maxiculture
    @maxiculture 8 місяців тому +10

    Very much US-centric as usual, but I expected that. What bugs me is the discussion of matches from about 500 down to 150cMs as being most useful..... My top mystery match is 138. I'm not American and I don't have 70,000 matches to play with, I have 16,000 total.

    • @adinamack6317
      @adinamack6317 7 місяців тому +4

      Wow! Only 16k! Imagine being me and getting stuck at 1870 for some ancestors and England for others.

    • @tanelise4673
      @tanelise4673 3 місяці тому

      ​@@adinamack6317AMEN

    • @meowmix8877
      @meowmix8877 2 місяці тому +1

      I have 8300 matches total and maybe 40 over 40CM and 12 over 50CM, and nothing over 95CM 😢😢

    • @maxiculture
      @maxiculture 2 місяці тому

      I have since got one match of 416 cMs, a key match with a tree sufficient to solve my mystery 😁

  • @annewandering
    @annewandering 2 місяці тому

    Cheers! It is all I needed.

  • @simonsheppard491
    @simonsheppard491 11 місяців тому +10

    I've done it, it works!😃

    • @taram9409
      @taram9409 6 місяців тому +3

      That's awesome! Did it help you break through a brick wall?

  • @maraeden7355
    @maraeden7355 Рік тому +2

    Thank you will be working on this !😊

  • @IowaKim
    @IowaKim 11 місяців тому +6

    I'm 23 minutes in and excited because I had already used the dots to mark my 3g ancestor couples in 15 DNA tests. Now to listen further to see what Diahan has to say.

  • @RealMesaMike
    @RealMesaMike 3 місяці тому +2

    I have a dot for each of my 3rd great grandparent couples... That's 16 dots.
    Of course, closer relatives have multiple dots. My first cousins have 8 dots each.

  • @geoffallan2622
    @geoffallan2622 11 місяців тому +12

    I used Ancestry for my DNA test and I get matches a wide range of countries. So I'm not quite sure of the validity of the comment about indicating international if there are small numbers from one side of the family. I was born in NZ, my ancestors came from Scotland and England, and I get matches from USA, Canada, and Europe because that's where some ancestral links migrated too.

    • @idneilkell
      @idneilkell 9 місяців тому +6

      You're getting matches from countries that test a lot. She was speaking of countries that do not test as much vs USA. You have to consider where the speaker is from and who the physical audience happens to be.

    • @meowmix8877
      @meowmix8877 2 місяці тому

      My family is from Ukraine, Croatia and Hungary and I have less then 40 matches above 40cm and not one more then 95cm

  • @arkaig1
    @arkaig1 6 місяців тому +1

    A lot of great truths in here. Matches shared matches can also confirm (but not dis-confirm) bio-parents. And if you embrace that, then off to a spreadsheet for you, and then viola! You can now free your dots! ... But... "Can I still keep JUST my 'quadrant' dots?" ;) :)

  • @kayc5836
    @kayc5836 11 місяців тому +1

    I am trying to find your complete dot video. I was so unsure to delete my dots and start over but I have them typed in spreadsheet. I have 2 first cousins, one second cousin all adopted as is my birth mother and client I am doing this for. So I have only 5 with 90-400 cM. All other matches are less than 41 cM gg grandparents. My question is I need to match at farther group and do not see how to do it. Linda

  • @reneeubry9065
    @reneeubry9065 7 місяців тому +1

    I have a lot of generations and everyone I could find in that family. I go back in one section to 50 + generations but I have 2 problems. Ancestry doesn’t have a way to mark my royal linage. Other than that there is a section where it seems like both of her parents were murdered and it looks like she was an only child. Others just used name that were not their legal name and changed them at will. This same person (1900’s) ditched a husband and married so me one else with no paperwork either. They also turned out to be quite the lier later in life on top of it all! It have notes from my parents but there are lots of problems in those sections. I think what you are talking about might help me find out if my dad has a 1/2 brother or any siblings on his dads side.

  • @librarydragon830
    @librarydragon830 7 місяців тому +1

    Does the largest segment data hold true even if the largest segment is the only segment? I have a group of matches who share around 50 cm's and share only that 1 segment with me. Many in the group trace back to a certain couple, or their surname.

  • @mikeh704
    @mikeh704 4 місяці тому +1

    KEY POINT: "Whoever it is that you want to find (with this method) should be your 3-times Great Grandparents or closer. Using this technology to find someone more distant than that, just won't work very well."

    • @robertshade8631
      @robertshade8631 4 місяці тому

      Unknown maternal grandmother father on my dad’s mom line -how to find dna matches?Also how to find my mom’s dad mother’s links for dna matches?Thanks in advance

    • @mikeh704
      @mikeh704 4 місяці тому

      I'm not sure what you are asking Robert but it would be best to ask the presenter, Diahand Southard.
      I wish you luck in finding what you are looking for.@@robertshade8631

  • @BonnieDragonKat
    @BonnieDragonKat 11 місяців тому +6

    Problem I have with this is I have over 2,000 matches (maybe more) that have no shared matches at all.(We're talking DNA that is anywhere between 2% and less than 1% of shared DNA with me)

    • @mandlerparr1
      @mandlerparr1 6 місяців тому +1

      Which test is this happening on? Which company?

  • @itbbrokeifix
    @itbbrokeifix 11 місяців тому +4

    how do you color code your 2nd great grandparents? I am getting this. I seems to me I have to do a lot of paper work beforehand and always keep it handy.

    • @itbbrokeifix
      @itbbrokeifix 11 місяців тому +2

      I'm not getting this.

  • @publiusvalerius8934
    @publiusvalerius8934 5 місяців тому

    Anyone have a link to the video from the walled garden? Broken links is all I find.

  • @janeaustin3479
    @janeaustin3479 2 місяці тому

    This is dependent on people building their trees. So many people add themselves and their parents, and that's it.

  • @Tracy.Leavitt.007
    @Tracy.Leavitt.007 10 місяців тому +2

    ❤❤❤

  • @kimrobinson5308
    @kimrobinson5308 11 днів тому

    I am listening to this video and I don't understand how to assign a dot to my ancestors so that I can build a network

  • @hollybishop2095
    @hollybishop2095 11 місяців тому +3

    How do you delete the dots? Or ... How do you re-assign the colors of the dots to a different ancestor pair?

    • @lisaquigley-moon9583
      @lisaquigley-moon9583 9 місяців тому +1

      It's right there where you make the dots in ancestry. I've deleted them before

  • @lorisilverstein3010
    @lorisilverstein3010 22 дні тому

    UUUGGGGHHHH! Give me a break! I have spent the last 6 hrs, color coding family members ONE CLICK AT A TIME! (Can't wait to get to my maternal side with over 22,000 known matches) Ancestry can add a simple SELECT ALL option here. AND while we are at it, include a translator for some of the documents that are in German and many other languages. AND for the trifecta, lets add another name line into adding a new person for aliases, the non binaries, adoption name changes, legal name changes or known aliases as criminals. (Yeah I have a few criminals I wouldn't mind outing in my family tree!)

    • @familysearch
      @familysearch  21 день тому +1

      Thanks for your input! Sounds like you have put in a lot of work that will help your family for generations to come. If you need assistance the FamilySearch Library offers free online research consultations. Check out this link to sign up:
      www.familysearch.org/en/library/online-consultations

    • @lorisilverstein3010
      @lorisilverstein3010 21 день тому

      @@familysearch thank you so very much.

    • @lorisilverstein3010
      @lorisilverstein3010 16 днів тому

      @@familysearch thank you so very much.

  • @ItsDoodlebug
    @ItsDoodlebug 10 місяців тому +5

    I’m confused. I can’t find Kepper, Young or Wilson on mine. 🤔🧐😉🤣😂🤣

    • @kathrynludrick4821
      @kathrynludrick4821 3 місяці тому

      I'm assuming those are your family surnames? I had a match at 185 cm that I knew was somehow related to my paternal great grandfather but the match's surname didn't fit anywhere. I discovered that my match's great grandmother whose maiden name was listed as Martin (her stepfather's surname) was actually a Griffin. So I learned my great grandfather had been married twice. His daughter from his first marriage had descendants and about 10 have taken DNA test. The match I mentioned above is my 1/2 2C 1R. I would not have learned about my great grandfather's first marriage or his descendants from that marriage without that one match.

  • @user-ns3ig8fz8g
    @user-ns3ig8fz8g Рік тому +1

    Interesting first ti knows

  • @s.p.3738
    @s.p.3738 4 місяці тому

    ❤❤❤ I’m new to this. Is she saying this is the best way to do your dots from the get go when you just get your DNA results or later redo your dots “if” you need to answer a specific question (minute 19:18) thanks❤

    • @kathrynludrick4821
      @kathrynludrick4821 3 місяці тому

      I've done both. At first I color coded by maternal v maternal as well as by MRCA couple. After I added all pertinent genealogy info in notes on each match I found color coding by ancestral couple was unnecessary, since I could easily see info in notes section. So now I use dots to help identify subgroups I'm having trouble figuring out. For example, one subgroup I've labeled Overton County, TN. I have quite a few matches for this county, all showing same surnames. And I have no idea who these ppl are.

    • @s.p.3738
      @s.p.3738 2 місяці тому

      @@kathrynludrick4821thank you for answering that!❤ One more for you. Please😊 We are the blind leading the blind over here. Ha. I have an Ancestry small tree and am the manager of the DNA of both my parents (I don’t plan to test). My Dads results are on my tree. My Moms results are coming in soon. Am I supposed to label everyone in the notes area like “dad’s maternal side” and then do the same for when my Moms matches come in? Or do I utilize 4 colors of dots? Or am I supposed to do something entirely different? Thanks!

    • @kathrynludrick4821
      @kathrynludrick4821 2 місяці тому

      @@s.p.3738 Ancestry denotes maternal and paternal, so you won't need to figure that out. But starting out, you might want to give your paternal matches a blue dot and maternal matches a pink dot until you get to know your matches well enough that a colored dot won't be necessary.

  • @debwilliams611
    @debwilliams611 7 місяців тому +3

    If there are no thruline matches there is the rub😅. Then what?

  • @Sandrannz
    @Sandrannz 8 місяців тому +2

    Diahan wrote a book.I can't find her last name to find the book. Any help out there? Did I miss it somehow?

    • @debbiedemeester5990
      @debbiedemeester5990 8 місяців тому +2

      its Dianne Southard

    • @taram9409
      @taram9409 6 місяців тому +1

      The book is called Your DNA Guide by Diahan Southard.

  • @julieannetenney4617
    @julieannetenney4617 11 місяців тому +2

    One to two percent is probably a haplogroup match.

  • @XL-5117
    @XL-5117 3 місяці тому

    The issue with this is that it doesn’t really go back that far, only as far as those who have taken DNA tests. I’ve been doing my research for over 25 years and obviously have come upon brick walls, which is because of lack of evidence. I’m in the UK, and have ancestors in Ireland and Scotland, and these records can be sketchy going further back from the 17th century. This is just a dna selling exercise.

  • @michelle8190
    @michelle8190 4 місяці тому

    That image is a picture of a funnel not filter. It drives me crazy a funnel icon represents a filter.

  • @rexeldridge3702
    @rexeldridge3702 5 місяців тому

    Appalachians need some other way to know our family!

  • @user-fl5yb3wf6i
    @user-fl5yb3wf6i 7 місяців тому +1

    Ma'am I'm third degree of domingo amarado he is my grandparents

  • @LizaKay0109
    @LizaKay0109 3 місяці тому

    I'm a bit lost, where do you find the Shared Matches Tool?

    • @kathrynludrick4821
      @kathrynludrick4821 3 місяці тому

      On Ancestry you'll see a drop down list. Select DNA, then Matches. Your shared match list should appear

  • @jieaton5714
    @jieaton5714 3 місяці тому

    I'm confused after watching the video ho play I can figure this out

  • @user-fl9zp8lw3p
    @user-fl9zp8lw3p 2 місяці тому

    I have 4 2nd 3rd cousins only one tree i just wanted to know for sure my dad is my dad i really am confused after watching this i think the only answer i have is to get a brother to do the test

  • @terrihutson8941
    @terrihutson8941 10 місяців тому +3

    How do the dots work for cousins that came from different partners?My grandfather was married twice, and his mother had a child from a previous marriage..
    Also my grandfather married cousins. How do I sort those out?

    • @kathrynludrick4821
      @kathrynludrick4821 3 місяці тому

      I have similar situation.
      The first, about different partners, means you're half cousins with these shared matches. I just recently learned my great grandfather was married twice and have 1/2 second cousins through the daughter from his marriage. Re using dots: I concentrated on my great grandfather and his ancestors, not on his wives' ancestry. I had to , since I don't know my great grandmother's maiden name. And in order to keep track it's my half 2nd cousin.
      Re being married to first cousins. It hasn't proved to be a problem in my research, or with identifying shared matches. I have all the names, vital statistics, for everyone. The only real problem comes from my mother's paternal line, where a bunch of families intermarried across the generations within a small community, so that I'm related to some matches in multiple ways. Leeds and dots methods don't work well if there's a lot of endogamy. Hope I helped.

  • @RaeannPeck
    @RaeannPeck 9 місяців тому

    Do they share DNA information with third parties?

  • @PirateRadioPodcasts
    @PirateRadioPodcasts 11 місяців тому +2

    Q - Is ANONYMITY (privacy) guaranteed?

    • @ediek813
      @ediek813 9 місяців тому +1

      I'd suggest that if you want guaranteed anonymity to not participate. No one can guarantee anonymity.

  • @user-id7ng9pu4z
    @user-id7ng9pu4z 3 місяці тому

    hi i have tried the new dot system but am more confused

    • @kathrynludrick4821
      @kathrynludrick4821 3 місяці тому

      Leeds and dots methods won't work well if there's a lot of endogamy. There's so much intermarriage among my mother's branches it's hard to separate them. Like when a match is a cousin in multiple ways

  • @shoozu
    @shoozu Місяць тому

    None of my ancestry matches are on my heritage aghhhh

  • @EmmaDee
    @EmmaDee 7 місяців тому +1

    Is there anyone here that could confidently give me advice for what I’d like to accomplish????
    I have very limited funds. My father was killed at the age of 30. I was only eight (8) years old when he died. Here’s where it gets interesting (FOR ME, AT LEAST). He was adopted by a biological grandmother on his maternal side because his birth mom died at 18.
    To make a long “Jerry spring story” short, here is BOMB that was dropped on me this week. My father that has been dead since 1977, allegedly fathered a SON while serving in WWII, which would be my HALF-Brother!! I have NO IDEA what country he served in because he died before I could ever get to know shit about him. I know most of what I need to know yet if there is some long lost brother on this planet, he’d NEVER find any of us most likely because of the adoption and what few of us with DNA matching my Dad are few and far.
    Basically how the hell could I try to find a half brother if I provided DNA and what site should I try???

    • @taram9409
      @taram9409 6 місяців тому +1

      I would try Ancestry site if I were you, because they have the largest database. However, you mentioned your father had a son during the war, so I'm guessing this mystery half brother is in Europe? Possibly France or Germany? MyHeritage has a better international database, so that would be a good choice for you too.

    • @EmmaDee
      @EmmaDee 6 місяців тому

      @@taram9409 this was so kind of you to take a moment to respond to me. I’m sure you’ve seen it often but my deceased father is a complete unknown to me and to think of the mere possibility of him having another kid, flipped me out because that person would have absolutely ZERO chance of getting any family info without my dna in this pool. I’m speechless when I even think about it. Thank you.

    • @1SassyCrafter
      @1SassyCrafter 4 місяці тому

      Buy kit for Ancestry, upload results to MyHeritage, GEDMatch, FamilyTree DNA, (I think there is another you can upload to for free in addition to these). You can also then get a kit for 23&Me. You do in this order to have more bang for your buck and get results into all the ponds for matches. You cannot upload to Ancestry or 23&Me, and because Ancestry is the largest database, that’s why people buy a kit there first.
      Find out where he served by searching Ancestry Fold 3, etc. this will give you a possible origin for your half brother. Best of luck to you! 😊

    • @jerrycunninghamsr8495
      @jerrycunninghamsr8495 Місяць тому +1

      start with what you know get your dads military records

    • @JustCallMeJaph
      @JustCallMeJaph Місяць тому

      I second Jerry. Get your dad's military record. It will tell you where he served.

  • @donquique1
    @donquique1 4 місяці тому +1

    This did not age well. Those days are gone.

  • @debbiedebbie9473
    @debbiedebbie9473 5 місяців тому

    Why do you sound Pd off ?

    • @1SassyCrafter
      @1SassyCrafter 4 місяці тому

      Paid off? She is sharing her process which is detailed in her book. Of course she is also going to promote where the process can be found outside of the conference. 😊

  • @brin3m
    @brin3m 4 місяці тому

    makes no sense.... wish i had never watdched this.

  • @stonepainter
    @stonepainter 8 місяців тому +2

    I want to watch this but had to stop 8 mins in. I feel like her tone of voice was that of an annoyed parent, and i was getting a telling off. She was pleasant but stern at the same time.

    • @taram9409
      @taram9409 6 місяців тому +2

      I think she is trying to be lighthearted, but serious about the process too. You should finish the video, she really knows her stuff.

    • @mdindestin
      @mdindestin 5 місяців тому +2

      I appreciate that she is purposely slowing down her speech, or pausing at times, and annunciating clearly to drive home her points. It sure beats hitting the rewind button.

  • @kimerlyhogan6567
    @kimerlyhogan6567 7 місяців тому +1

    Excuse me please. People were not/are not slaves. They were/are ENSLAVED. There IS a difference. Thank you. 🙂

    • @kathrynludrick4821
      @kathrynludrick4821 3 місяці тому

      What's the difference?

    • @kimerlyhogan6567
      @kimerlyhogan6567 3 місяці тому

      The word "slaves" "denotes an inherent identity of a person treated as property.” On the other hand, “enslaved people" emphasizes that "the slave status has been imposed on individuals." A simple google search was all that was needed.

    • @kathrynludrick4821
      @kathrynludrick4821 2 місяці тому

      ​@@kimerlyhogan6567Google isnt a reliable source

  • @kimdenny2738
    @kimdenny2738 9 місяців тому +1

    You talk toooooo much

    • @carokat1111
      @carokat1111 8 місяців тому

      What a stupid thing to say