The Alchemist & Havoc Discuss What Makes a Classic Hip Hop Record, Including Sampling, MPC, ASR etc.

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • Join legendary producers The Alchemist and Havoc as they delve into what makes a record a classic in the world of Hip-Hop. In this insightful discussion, they explore the art of sampling, the nuances of production, and the elements that define timeless tracks.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 153

  • @erman_
    @erman_  Місяць тому +2

    ua-cam.com/video/fh4CU53LNzA/v-deo.htmlsi=60VGrZ-mO6x0BbFM check this out please.

    • @lawryythegreat
      @lawryythegreat Місяць тому +2

      tough !!!

    • @erman_
      @erman_  Місяць тому +1

      @@lawryythegreat appreciate u brotha

    • @lawryythegreat
      @lawryythegreat Місяць тому

      @@erman_ keep going! I want to hear more

  • @ststephane
    @ststephane Місяць тому +36

    Mobb deep totally changed the rap scene in France

    • @lylechipperson3407
      @lylechipperson3407 Місяць тому +4

      bruh.....

    • @discowolf25
      @discowolf25 Місяць тому

      @@lylechipperson3407😂

    • @Prod.4D
      @Prod.4D Місяць тому

      @@lylechipperson3407 nigga said france lmaoo i respect that though

    • @Mi.KoTa-chYon
      @Mi.KoTa-chYon Місяць тому

      That's super Dope

  • @BENJAMIN-nz6nd
    @BENJAMIN-nz6nd Місяць тому +9

    Good Kid Mad City & Ds2 are classic. Alc got it

  • @82DC
    @82DC Місяць тому +9

    Had the privilege to see Mobb Deep in Manchester England on tour with 50cent, Mase and M.O.P came out too blew my mind

  • @aroc3462
    @aroc3462 Місяць тому +12

    these guys are really too humble its dope to see. After listening to the first half Hectic and Up North Trip still havent kicked in I knew in 2 hours how significant the infamous was ... wayyy more so than illmatic

  • @genohall2235
    @genohall2235 Місяць тому +6

    My Two favorite producers. Mobb Deep 4Life…

  • @djwiseonline
    @djwiseonline Місяць тому +6

    Wrong Prince movie>> Marley Marl snatched the "Something For The Radio" Drum Sample from Prince's 2nd movie, "Under The Cherry Moon." ✌🏾 #SALUTE #QGTM

  • @creamfiend84
    @creamfiend84 Місяць тому +2

    One of my favorite Mobb deep albums “Hell On Earth” to me is a classic. It had a definitive mood and sound to it that I can’t compare anything else too, plus it holds a lot of nostalgia for me growing up.

    • @lawryythegreat
      @lawryythegreat Місяць тому

      yessssss fire

    • @tradingformation4371
      @tradingformation4371 Місяць тому +1

      THE SAME FOR ME BRUDDAH !!!

    • @jamaaldavis7907
      @jamaaldavis7907 Місяць тому

      He'll on Earth imo mobb best cd ....Infamous has mo high moments but beginning 2 end h.o.e...having a betta producer....n p def a betta emcee in '96 den '95

  • @froml.a.1760
    @froml.a.1760 Місяць тому +8

    these brothers humility is a beautiful thing

  • @SideHustleENT
    @SideHustleENT Місяць тому +1

    Get Rich Or Die Trying was an instant classic.

    • @erman_
      @erman_  Місяць тому +2

      @@SideHustleENT nah it has become a classic after years tbh

  • @Hadoukenprince
    @Hadoukenprince 5 годин тому

    Everything Spitta put out is classic

  • @dugnice
    @dugnice Місяць тому +2

    Dope discussion. Touching on the question of can something be a classic instantly, my answer is yes because the word classic simply means highest class or best of. What determines a classic is more quality than time. Of course, since art is subjective quality is in the eyes (or ears) of the beholder, hence what is considered a classic will vary between individuals.

  • @ShinobiKush
    @ShinobiKush Місяць тому +2

    A classic resonates sonically and spiritually with the era and sums up the major influences of that present product.... Definitely, something could be labeled a classic instantly, because it perfectly reflects and resonates sonically, spiritually, and energetically with the majority or influential majority of the listeners and participants in that particular genre of music

  • @PnoMate
    @PnoMate Місяць тому

    much love from france

  • @DuckAlertBeats
    @DuckAlertBeats Місяць тому +4

    The audio though

    • @creamfiend84
      @creamfiend84 Місяць тому +4

      Right like what happened, feedback/crackle was terrible, dudes are discussing music at least have your audio setup right😂

  • @froml.a.1760
    @froml.a.1760 Місяць тому +3

    LOTTA JEWELS IN HERE.

  • @Sender1257
    @Sender1257 Місяць тому

    A classic is something that stands the test of time, defining an era but still sounding fresh today

  • @rasoolthomas321
    @rasoolthomas321 Місяць тому +3

    Good interview

  • @ricardomayo8337
    @ricardomayo8337 Місяць тому

    Amen to this convo, its an impulsive industry and practicing classic commentary on previous material makes all of us recount the popularity or actualized talent. Sorry for all losses incurred

  • @overstandinggod3410
    @overstandinggod3410 Місяць тому

    Still knocking that "Silent Partner" & "Wreckage Manner" in 2024. Talk about classics 🔥

  • @whosnycerockwell
    @whosnycerockwell Місяць тому +4

    Static in audio is killing me.... still watching tho lol

  • @goldthenatural6760
    @goldthenatural6760 Місяць тому +1

    Great interview

  • @fan1kiwa
    @fan1kiwa Місяць тому

    38:05 is how it should be done.......give the audience an experience......much love to Al and H.

  • @djgreenhornet2892
    @djgreenhornet2892 Місяць тому +3

    Dope interview! 🔥🔥🔥

  • @williesanchez4854
    @williesanchez4854 28 днів тому

    🔥

  • @dub7222
    @dub7222 Місяць тому +3

    Pioneers

    • @r.b.6432
      @r.b.6432 Місяць тому +1

      SAMPLERSTHEIVESTHE MPC DOES ALL THE WORK! AND WHAT EVER RECORD THEY STOLE!

    • @dub7222
      @dub7222 Місяць тому +1

      @@r.b.6432 Hahaha you are funny boy ! With that logic there would be no art in video editing, photography & collages ! ! ! !

  • @RalphLBaer
    @RalphLBaer Місяць тому

    Can’t miss ish like this.

  • @daminharris3879
    @daminharris3879 Місяць тому +1

    Current classics GKMC, Jesus Piece Kush n OJ,Undaground current classics-38 Spesh GRap Son Of G Rap,38 spesh Benny Stabbed n Shot Shot,Conway From a King 2 a god. lil bit older but still classic Sean Price Monkey Barz

  • @AmazonCrime
    @AmazonCrime Місяць тому

    Al is talking about Dirty Sprite 2. Like it or not, this album changed the game.

  • @LIGHTHIZERENTERTAINMENT
    @LIGHTHIZERENTERTAINMENT Місяць тому

    Yes a classic can happen Instansley Shook ones Part 2 Instant Classic

  • @shield_your_energy
    @shield_your_energy Місяць тому +1

    Lol... Ironic how some of the greatest producers video has audio issues xD.
    Send it over to me next time I got you guys

    • @TheFUNKSTARR
      @TheFUNKSTARR 26 днів тому

      It was the same when Bink! went on Math's My Expert Opinion podcast, they somehow managed to screw the audio when they had one of the most prolific and overlooked producers ever....

  • @Mystic-Philly
    @Mystic-Philly Місяць тому +1

    Al buggin, he has madd classics!!!! From P, Nas, to Roc Marci, from Action Bronson to Larry June, and himself!!!! Not even going to talk about Boldy James, Jay Worthy, Mach-Hommy, etc......

  • @melmuzik1
    @melmuzik1 Місяць тому +1

    37:00 HAVOC DECODES THE NEW GENERATION FRFR

  • @overstandinggod3410
    @overstandinggod3410 Місяць тому

    Still looking for the original version of "Drop A Gem On 'Em" where homeboy's name was mentioned. I need that please 🙏🏾

  • @TYBO-xl1xz
    @TYBO-xl1xz Місяць тому

    Yacht Rock 2 is a classic to me, the visuals go with it perfectly

    • @TYBO-xl1xz
      @TYBO-xl1xz Місяць тому +1

      And Albert Einstein

    • @ChaosBeforeOrder
      @ChaosBeforeOrder Місяць тому +1

      @@TYBO-xl1xz I'd pay $100 for a instrumental Albert Einstein album.

  • @bigfamsmusic
    @bigfamsmusic Місяць тому

    That's Under the Cherry Moon actually. RIP Biz. 🙌

  • @RalphLBaer
    @RalphLBaer 25 днів тому

    Todd Craig sounds like Jack Frost from the BBN Network and it gives me anxiety.

  • @MegaToneProductions
    @MegaToneProductions Місяць тому +1

    Totally dope. Even shitty audio….. Legendary. Respect Due.

  • @Ink0ne415
    @Ink0ne415 Місяць тому

    Under the cherry moon drum sample.

  • @blvkmirror8388
    @blvkmirror8388 Місяць тому +1

    Kendrick's Not like us is an instant classic 🔥🔥💯

    • @puregoldprod
      @puregoldprod Місяць тому

      nobody will listen to it 5 years from now (unless it’s on his next album)

    • @divinevil
      @divinevil Місяць тому

      dude get tf outta here with that shit you corny

    • @divinevil
      @divinevil Місяць тому

      😂😂😂

  • @Appetitebeats487
    @Appetitebeats487 3 дні тому

    It’s weird to hear Hav say he doesn’t like acoustic guitar samples, isn’t Hell on Earth an acoustic guitar?

  • @mistaskeem
    @mistaskeem Місяць тому +1

    Which were the french rappers that were inspired by Hell On Earth???

    • @kopa91
      @kopa91 Місяць тому

      Lunatic

  • @eddiemoney6625
    @eddiemoney6625 19 днів тому

    Havoc shook one’s and Adrenaline, Alchemist we gonna make it and Buc Fifty….

  • @EarykidSC
    @EarykidSC Місяць тому

    The Caretaker is a great modern classic check his ish out

  • @scaleshenry
    @scaleshenry Місяць тому

    A classic album as soon as it drops is rare! I think Nas illmatic was classic because production limits were pushed and his lyrics but also the social background at that time were rap was at that time. The Chronic was good rap music then it is a classic now! Also, how did the album or music change the existing landscape musically speaking

    • @jamaaldavis7907
      @jamaaldavis7907 Місяць тому

      Chronic been a classic...what rock u been hiding under😂😂

  • @kallelysen7281
    @kallelysen7281 Місяць тому +1

    12:46 LMAO

  • @pongtrometer
    @pongtrometer Місяць тому

    The Alchemist & Oh No - TAKE DRUGS …. MASTA ACE - Take a look around …. Ice Cube - The Predator,
    Cypress hill - Cypress Hill . Dead Prez - Hip Hop.
    J Dilla - DONUTS . Pete Rock & CL Smooth - Mecca & the soul brother . Gangstarr - Step in the Arena ….🌌 on and on ….

  • @deadlystylzcal2913
    @deadlystylzcal2913 Місяць тому +1

    Nas - Magic
    Modern Classic

    • @erman_
      @erman_  Місяць тому +2

      @@deadlystylzcal2913 naaaaaaah

    • @grinchoi1
      @grinchoi1 Місяць тому +1

      No way.

  • @BENJAMIN-nz6nd
    @BENJAMIN-nz6nd Місяць тому

    Ohh I’m sampling all 2000’s joints. Just did Snoop and Pharrell, Trick Daddy *pause* peso pluma I be going crazy

  • @2ndnature777
    @2ndnature777 Місяць тому

    THEY WAY HAV SAYS BUD IS JOKES

  • @Mi.KoTa-chYon
    @Mi.KoTa-chYon Місяць тому

    "The Silent Partner" is a Classic
    & ⏬💈= - Ina ✈️ 🌏

  • @atolliver91
    @atolliver91 19 днів тому

    Grow dummies with money…😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤ 5:23

  • @slomomuzik2887
    @slomomuzik2887 Місяць тому

    QB what up

  • @ahayahyashayah9093
    @ahayahyashayah9093 Місяць тому

    My thunns

  • @thundersnow819
    @thundersnow819 Місяць тому

    What up w a re release of those 9/11 songs please?

  • @beatzbyjay24
    @beatzbyjay24 Місяць тому

    The infamous was a classic album.

  • @BENJAMIN-nz6nd
    @BENJAMIN-nz6nd Місяць тому +1

    I love hac, but Alc has all the right answers 40:11 I think hav is completely wrong, in the beginning he ain’t even know modern artist. These new artist need A&R, they need help.

    • @lawryythegreat
      @lawryythegreat Місяць тому +1

      talk that!! its a two sided coin that guidance is everything but also could hinder the artistic works depending on the A&R.
      So more importantly we need the right A&R's. because we seen labels hunting for artist just to copy a popular sound and wanting that artist to make songs that sound like the thing that's playing on the radio. So we need A&R'S and labels that has a foundation is art and business second. this is how we build great artist and a real fanbase. versus being poplar on social media but can't sale out venues. Numbers nowadays are the only thing people look at which is a problem. Talent and knowledge of music history is the way, versus someone who's just popular and have fake views , fake streams etc. That's why most artist can't perform well, don't sell out shows , and rapping over background tracks. everything so microwave now and the music nowadays shows it. Appreciate real artist who actually care about the art.

  • @prodgroovyCHU
    @prodgroovyCHU Місяць тому

    You still can’t do a music vid mistah fab just did a video to a 15 year old song it went upppp

  • @THRIVINGERA
    @THRIVINGERA Місяць тому +1

    Whoever left because of the audio… Your loss 😂

    • @Mi.KoTa-chYon
      @Mi.KoTa-chYon Місяць тому +1

      Idk.. That Sh!t was giving me anxiety at the end 😂

  • @pongtrometer
    @pongtrometer Місяць тому

    Like a graf writer, always sets out to make a masterpiece….thats part of instant classic, but you ultimately looking to out piece everything…for that art of Battle.
    The Infamous, hell on earth , murder music , blood money is classic mobb , but… The infamous and Hell on Earth are CLASSICS.

  • @ShinobiKush
    @ShinobiKush Місяць тому

    There could be "generational" classics.... Classics for and of the generation.... While some classics are trans generational...

  • @daminharris3879
    @daminharris3879 Місяць тому

    Hold on Alc has neva made a classic album. Hav has but Alc has not n NO Return of da Mac is NOT a classic

    • @genohall2235
      @genohall2235 Місяць тому +4

      Alfredo…🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @daminharris3879
      @daminharris3879 Місяць тому +4

      @genohall2235 Sorry I 4got yes n Alfredo is a current classic Gibbs slipped my mind lol n Alc did his thing on da jawn

    • @genohall2235
      @genohall2235 Місяць тому

      @@daminharris3879
      Al has had classic singles so his legacy is legit, but you weren’t far off and even he doesn’t think he has classic Albums. But I thought if you didn’t consider ROTM classic you may not have considered Alfredo either. Just because something wins awards doesn’t necessarily mean it’s classic.

    • @daminharris3879
      @daminharris3879 Місяць тому +2

      @genohall2235 Is Alfredo my fav nah BUT I can recognize it as wut da da people call current classic. Alfredo does get brought up from time 2 time. But yea Return of da Mack everybody liked n I didn't. Didn't like da 70s beats at all n P had been washed by 2007 wen dat dropped.

    • @genohall2235
      @genohall2235 Місяць тому +1

      @@daminharris3879
      I was not stating Alfredo as fact I just was more suggesting a possibility, and I respect you considered what I mentioned from a complete stranger so salute, and I appreciate the respectful dialogue. I can’t wait to see what verses they are gonna release from P on this album…

  • @r.b.6432
    @r.b.6432 Місяць тому

    I JUST WANT TO SAY WITHOUT A SAMPLER AND OTHER PEOPLE'S MUSIC! THEY BOTH AINT SHIT! Y'ALL OWE YOUR CAREERS TO OLD SCHOOL JAZZ THAT YOU STOLE!

    • @dub7222
      @dub7222 Місяць тому

      Hahaha you are funny boy ! With that logic there would be no art in video editing, photography & collages ! ! ! !

    • @r.b.6432
      @r.b.6432 Місяць тому

      @@dub7222 MAYBE IN COLLAGES!! YES BUT PHOTOGRAPHY WHEN YOU HAVE TO AIM THE CAMERA, AND ACTUALLY SEE SOMETHING WORTH TAKING A PICTURE OF IN YOUR BRIAN, UMMM NO THAT'S ART! VIDEO EDITING THAT'S WORK! NOT ART! BUT HIPHOP AND SAMPLING! THAT BULLSHIT, YOU NEED 0 TALENT FOR THAT! HOW HARD IS IT TO FIND 4 BARS OF A SONG, LOOP IT IN A COMPUTER, AND PUT A BEAT UNDER IT? IN A COMPUTER! ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU SAMPLING MUSIC FROM GREAT MUSICIANS ANYWAY! WHO ACTUALLY THOUGHT OF THE MUSIC, COMPOSED IT AND PLAYED IT WITHOUT A COMPUTER! NO BRO! HIPHOP SUCKS! IT'S JUST POPULAR!

    • @SleepyGorillaMuseum
      @SleepyGorillaMuseum Місяць тому

      Not all photos taken are equal and not all beats made from samples are equal. There are levels to artistry and craft. Anyway, rage baiting or not, I know people with your POV and it makes no sense to gatekeep. For the sake of art, you gotta let people go wild and pull from anything and everything. Sampling. It's important. It also can put people onto stuff that came before them, which again, hugely important.

    • @r.b.6432
      @r.b.6432 Місяць тому

      @@SleepyGorillaMuseum Rage baiting really! Can you see my rage? I get it your generation just hates criticism! Well, what did people do, when there were no samples?Oh they created the best music ever! They created all the shit y'all sample! Prince hated people covering his songs and I can't blame him! No real composer, who has sat at a piano or with a guitar, and has put his energy into creating a song would Wants someone with no talented, sampling his music so his non talented ass can look cool!

    • @creamfiend84
      @creamfiend84 Місяць тому

      Dope response, you said what I was thinking I just couldn’t find the words 😂👍🏿 I would hope the person commenting has had some level of experience to speak on the matter but my assumption is probably not considering how they came across, like ALL CAPS bro😂

  • @MattCupan
    @MattCupan Місяць тому +1

    46:15 thought ALC was gonna say "Alfredo!"

  • @RalphLBaer
    @RalphLBaer 25 днів тому

    Todd Craig sounds like Jack Frost from the BBN Network and it gives me anxiety.