hey WOKE STANLEY... face it: you're a fundamentalist, a doctrinaire, you don't promote Christianity but christianISM, you're an ideologue. The New Testament has a word for you: Pharisee. And the Old Testament has a word for. you: Idolator. You put "your biblical way" higher than God. James 3 is not about Andy Stanley... it's about YOU!!!
i've been in ministry 25+ years, and have spoken about Biblical marriage and sexuality...and even now people in our congregation ask if I still hold to the traditional orthodox Biblical view of sexuality and I have to say "Yes of course...nothing has changed." The reason they ask me though is because they have gotten shell-shocked to all the pastors they thought they "knew" over the years flip flopping on the issue. It's disconcerting for them and though we may have felt we've succinctly taught on it before, we're going to need to do it again...and again.
Please read my comment above GOT a guy that has this Andy Stanley Mindset that attends my home church i have to be around him all the time in my Bible study group he has a lot of input on those men in that group because he does these Samaritions Purse events all the time yet if you bring up anything abortion gay marriage or what is the best canidate to vote for that best fits our Christian world view he says we do not talk about political issues in this mens Bible study Its not part of your christian walk he shuts the conversation down every time about any of those subjects everybody seems to listen to him yet my Pastor is a Solid guy think kind person running around the church i bad
Gary Hamric is absolutely correct. Christ associated with all types of people who were lost in their sin, the difference here is that HE didn't condone their sin HE told them to go and sin no more. If we are affirming the delusion, if we are condoning the lies, we will never help them understand the freedom found in Christ Jesus.
hey WOKE STANLEY... and GARY HAMRIC, face it: you're a fundamentalist, a doctrinaire, you don't promote Christianity but christianISM, you're an ideologue. The New Testament has a word for you: Pharisee. And the Old Testament has a word for. you: Idolator. You put "your biblical way" higher than God. James 3 is not about Andy Stanley... it's about YOU!!! Evangelicalism is being CALLED-OUT and it's dying. What's killing it? THE LOVE OF GOD.
Thank you for being a Pastor that we can count on to call out sin! I can only imagine that if his Dad, Dr. Charles Stanley, were with us today this would break his heart. He was truly a man after God's own heart...as I believe you are. God bless you, Pastor Gary!
I thank pastors like Gary , he’s solid. We are in the end times falling away, the apostasy of the latter days. Pray for your Christian leaders that they don’t slide from the truth.
hey WOKE STANLEY... face it: you're a fundamentalist, a doctrinaire, you don't promote Christianity but christianISM, you're an ideologue. The New Testament has a word for you: Pharisee. And the Old Testament has a word for. you: Idolator. You put "your biblical way" higher than God. James 3 is not about Andy Stanley... it's about YOU!!!
i think i know how LOT felt now the deception Jesus warned about is flanted in your face even with in the SO called churchs woe to these guys on Judgement day
I’ve never understood why having a different interpretation makes someone “perverse” or an “unbeliever”. Some believers drink alcohol, some speak in tongues, there are women pastors, etc. Why does it have to be an all out war?
hey WOKE STANLEY... and GARY HAMRIC, face it: you're a fundamentalist, a doctrinaire, you don't promote Christianity but christianISM, you're an ideologue. The New Testament has a word for you: Pharisee. And the Old Testament has a word for. you: Idolator. You put "your biblical way" higher than God. James 3 is not about Andy Stanley... it's about YOU!!! Evangelicalism is being CALLED-OUT and it's dying. What's killing it? THE LOVE OF GOD.
@@lionoffireministries - quite the opposite - my guess is I know the Bible better than you. what you know is EVANGELICAL versions of the Bible, but you don't know church history, hermeneutics, languages, or context. ALL YOU KNOW IS ISMS & OLOGIES. That's it.
hey WOKE STANLEY... and GARY HAMRIC, face it: you're a fundamentalist, a doctrinaire, you don't promote Christianity but christianISM, you're an ideologue. The New Testament has a word for you: Pharisee. And the Old Testament has a word for. you: Idolator. You put "your biblical way" higher than God. James 3 is not about Andy Stanley... it's about YOU!!! Evangelicalism is being CALLED-OUT and it's dying. What's killing it? THE LOVE OF GOD.
ACTUALLY... YOU HAVE!!! hey WOKE STANLEY... and GARY HAMRIC, face it: you're a fundamentalist, a doctrinaire, you don't promote Christianity but christianISM, you're an ideologue. The New Testament has a word for you: Pharisee. And the Old Testament has a word for. you: Idolator. You put "your biblical way" higher than God. James 3 is not about Andy Stanley... it's about YOU!!! Evangelicalism is being CALLED-OUT and it's dying. What's killing it? THE LOVE OF GOD.
More power to you. May the Holy Almighty God bless you and your family always and I hope and pray that other Pastors follow your ways and boldness to preach the truth, not politically correct, and preach every Bible verse not pick and choose.
@@tomlord4469 that’s the opposite of what the Bible says… 1Jn 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. If you continue to sin, Who are you of Tom?
@@tomlord4469 If you continue in sin, like you said you have to, you should know him, correct? 1Jn 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. “Whosoever sinneth, HATH NOT SEEN HIM, NEITHER KNOWN HIM.” Tom, do you want to correct your belief? It’s not recommended to go against the Word of God…
No, it isn't put exactly like that, but 2 Timothy 3:16 comes to mind and Jesus said "Not a letter or part of a letter will pass away until it is fulfilled"....Jesus again John 10:35 "the scriptures cannot be broken. Hope that helps. God bless you and enlighten you as you search the scriptures. P.S. many preachers and theologians use the phrase "the infallible word of God, or the inerrancy of scripture.
@@gailbarton3799 But what do we do about the NT? 2 Timothy 3:16....which was probably not written by Paul but has an unknown author.....was only speaking about what we know of as the OT. Taking that verse and using it to apply to the NT is blatantly taking it out of its context. The same goes for Jesus' words which were also about the OT. And in neither of those places does the author of 2 Timothy or Jesus says scriptural texts are inerrant or infallible.
hey WOKE STANLEY... and GARY HAMRIC, face it: you're a fundamentalist, a doctrinaire, you don't promote Christianity but christianISM, you're an ideologue. The New Testament has a word for you: Pharisee. And the Old Testament has a word for. you: Idolator. You put "your biblical way" higher than God. James 3 is not about Andy Stanley... it's about YOU!!! Evangelicalism is being CALLED-OUT and it's dying. What's killing it? THE LOVE OF GOD.
I visited this church around 2016. While the subject of homosexuality was not mentioned the service was a feel good atmosphere. No mention of the Bible sin the cross or repentance. I went three times and I didn’t go back. I wonder why Charles Stanley didn’t take a stand.
I agree with Pastor Hamrick...BUT What IS APALLING TO ME, IS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL ATTENDING A N D SUPPORTING THIS BLASPHEMY !! ITS THE BLING LEADING THE BLIND!! TALK ABOUT BEING GIVEN OVER TO A DELUSION FOR NOT LOVING THE TRUTH! READ 2 THESS. 2 ch. 9-12 verses!😂 2:10
yeah well... you're NUTS! hey WOKE STANLEY... and GARY HAMRIC, face it: you're a fundamentalist, a doctrinaire, you don't promote Christianity but christianISM, you're an ideologue. The New Testament has a word for you: Pharisee. And the Old Testament has a word for. you: Idolator. You put "your biblical way" higher than God. James 3 is not about Andy Stanley... it's about YOU!!! Evangelicalism is being CALLED-OUT and it's dying. What's killing it? THE LOVE OF GOD.
you're a homophobe and a judger. "hey WOKE STANLEY... and GARY HAMRIC, face it: you're a fundamentalist, a doctrinaire, you don't promote Christianity but christianISM, you're an ideologue. The New Testament has a word for you: Pharisee. And the Old Testament has a word for. you: Idolator. You put "your biblical way" higher than God. James 3 is not about Andy Stanley... it's about YOU!!! Evangelicalism is being CALLED-OUT and it's dying. What's killing it? THE LOVE OF GOD."
Deut 6.4-6, Mark 12.28-32, John 17.3, John 20.17, Rom 15.6, Rom 16.27, I Cor 8.6, II Cor 11.31, I Tim 2.5, Rev 3.2, Rev 3.12, and many other scriptures.
For those who think of themselves as Christians - Jesus said "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. " Anybody want to venture what similar works that they have done? (And just preaching doesn't count as "works")
yes when this ANDY STANLEY MINDSET gets into your family and you try to confront it in love you are told judge not lest you be judged and that your spotting hate speech yet that person claims to be a christian and says they know the word of GOD and your not being loving what do you do i go to bed in tears know my daughter in l aw and son think this way whats worse shes a pastor of a CHURCH and attends these type of conferences i was at new mens Bible study at another church 15 guys where all men 3 of the men from my home church i brought my problem up within this group of men to see if they could help me with this one of the 3 men that attend this meeting started mocking me for bringing this up in this group and did not want to me to talk about it he had this Andy Stanley mindset towards me and i thought he was my friend now what do i do with him i see him at my church all the time really makes you not want to go to church this to is upsetting me because i want to be in that MENS Bible study but i know he will be there
Andy waited til his father passed away to bring forth his perverted preaching. Well, hes doing this infront of God. Bible says not to do something to make others stumble. Andy is going to get Gods wrath.
Yes and no. Back in 2012 was a very troubling message that demonstrated affirming views. Affirming baptism in 2019. I'm not sure how close Charles kept tabs on Andy and NP. A lot of it went under the radar. And Andy never anticipated this conference getting out to general public. Andy and NP never marketed it. I discovered it bc I was aware of Embracingthejourney.org and there affirming views. The Mohlers of the world tend to ignore the discoveries of everyday folks like me. But it finally caught there attention and exploded.
@@wokestanleyI'm very glad you've brought this to attention. I watched another pastor online who has done the same as yourself. He contacted Andy numerous times over a few years and instructed him to repent. You are right, I'd say this conference had been planned for some time, perhaps his father tried to talk to him on issues or maybe people shielded his father from this as he was frail at the end. Regardless, Andy grew up in truth and God doesn't change and his word doesn't change. We change. But only if we decide to. God won't wink at these things forever. He won't be mocked. Thank you for this vid. Will keep praying for Andy and the like to come back to truth.
Maybe Andy Stanley was never truly called by God to be a pastor. Hes just taking over the family business and wanting to make his own new "Progressive" changes now that hes in charge. He is not a biblical pastor. He is running his own pseudo Christian church business. Plenty of men out there doing the same. Not to worry! God will seperate the wheat from the tares in His appointed time.
Perversion of God's truth, particular by preachers, is more to draw people to themselves and their earthly kingdom than to draw people to Christ and his Kingdom. May Stanley and North Point bow the knee to Christ.
1:32 Hamrick's denunciation of churches that "substitute social justice for biblical justice - that's perverse " . What the hell is he talking about ! Biblical justice is textually demonstrable as social justice ! Christ's redemptive ministry was ( and is ) about personal salvation through honouring the Father by an active compassion for those who are outcast , impoverished , and generally mistreated by both others and also through the cruel agency of institutional domination . The phrases "social justice " and "biblical justice " are semantically equivalent !
You "hate" to "do it", yet you do it so well, don't you? It is in fact, effortless, isn't it? Perhaps you might enhance your walk with God if you took time to meditate on Matthew 18:15.
Andy told his congregation this morning that he reached out to you, as he explained what the Unconditional Conference was all about. It’s interesting you didn’t confront him before saying what you did to your congregation. Parents who have children that “come out of the closet” often hide in their own closet. The conference was there as a means of support for the parents, as they often feel guilty thinking they did something wrong in raising their child. So what should the church do? What does your church do to minister to them? Andy also said this morning that marriage is between a man and a woman and homosexuality is a sin. He wanted to address his network of churches before addressing the public about recent comments being made, so be on the lookout for his response BTW….the church is supposed to work out their differences within the church. I don’t think making our grievances public helps lead anyone to Christ.
In my previous post, I assumed I was responding to Gary. Andy reached out to Gary after he made his comments. If anyone had issues with Andy they could have reached out to him. Few if any have. They’ve chosen to air this out for the world to see. It is supposed to be worked out privately, as Paul said. Andy will address this soon after first speaking to his flock yesterday after all the hurts this hoax has caused.
@@tanyabrown4624 did Andy say marriage was between a man and a woman? Did Andy say honor God with your body? Did Andy say no sex outside marriage? Perhaps you would have only been satisfied if he had graphics showing LQBTQ being thrown into HELL and burnt a Gay flag. What is your church doing to minister in this area? Do you have a link? Thanks
God bless America where a pastor can make a comment and making assumptions that aren't true. Gary proved this just with this clip. At no point has Andy Stanley affirmed anything but (1) sex outside of marriage is a sin and (2) marriage is between a woman and a man. He has reaffirmed that as recently as 10-1-2023 in front of God and his church. If my kids struggled with substance abuse, porn, or "basic" rebellion, I would want the Church to help me with the resources in dealing with that matter both in my life and theirs. Why would I want anyone but the Church to help me if my kids were struggling with homosexuality? Andy affirmed we are to love our children and maintain a healthy relationship with them.
How is having two gay "married" homosexuals on stage at your church not affirming sin? Explain that please. Why are these pagans uniquely qualified to speak to these parents?
@@wokestanley , you don't want an explanation; merely to promote hatred (thus, your "pagan" reference). I'm not affirming anything. But since you asked, I'll answer but won't stoop to arguing. As a parent, I'm 100% unqualified on what it's like to believe in Christ while also attracted to another man. I wouldn't begin to know what to tell a parent facing this struggle with a child. But someone who has gone through this can't explain better than any what that is like. Parents who faced this already can't talk about what they had to face. And parents going through this struggle now need to hear from those (both kids and parents) on what it was like. Would it make it more convenient if I were qualified? Sure. But I'm not. You're placing motive and making assumptions. Good luck with that.
@@chrispike9861 You don’t need to be qualified to speak truth. You want to hear the message from two men who have undergone a process that mimics marriage but is not actually marriage? They disobeyed God and think that He has “blessed” them, when God calls what they’ve done an abomination. It’s THEM you want speaking to your kids instead of warriors of the faith who can guide your children to the Light?
@@chrispike9861 Hi. I am sure you know the difference between having two practicing gay men who accept and promote the gay lifestyle on a church stage and having former homosexuals and Christian parents who have gay children teaching Biblical truth about how to love and support those caught up in the gay lifestyle. Andy could have asked Jackie Hill Perry to be a presenter, because she came out of the gay lifestyle and is very direct about helping the straight community understand and be compassionate towards those in the gay lifestyle. I have a ministry to Christians who are justice-involved and who have struggled with addiction. I would not expect a pastor to showcase justice-involved people who celebrate crime or those with addictions who promote addictive behavior, such as porn, drugs, or alcohol. What seems to be at the crux of this controversy is that Andy Stanley has not affirmed that the gay lifestyle is sin.
It seems to me that all of us have fallen short of Gods perfect plan. There is no one righteous. Not even one. I’m thankful for the blood. Whosoever is without sin let him cast that first stone.
They can come have dinner with me. We’re having salmon croquettes and oven roasted potatoes. Or something else I can whip up from my pantry. It’s a big table and we can always scoot chairs in and put the leaf in.
So proud of men like this who STAND against sin! I am so thankful for this church!! God Bless!❤
Thank you for calling him out. My own son is being sucked into his church. Please pray his eyes are opened.
God will answer your prayers so trust Him to open the eyes of your son and draw him out unto Himself, truth & righteousness.
Pray for and love your son. God is good.
@@EE-qn4ks where did I say I didn’t love my son? A loving mom asks for prayers and that’s exactly what I’ve done. Don’t be so judgmental.
God bless the MEN who are standing in defense for the gospel of Jesus Christ.
hey WOKE STANLEY... face it: you're a fundamentalist, a doctrinaire, you don't promote Christianity but christianISM, you're an ideologue. The New Testament has a word for you: Pharisee. And the Old Testament has a word for. you: Idolator. You put "your biblical way" higher than God. James 3 is not about Andy Stanley... it's about YOU!!!
what is that, the gospel of Jesus Christ???
Thank you for this clear, unequivocal exposition! The wolves are prowling the worldwide church.
i've been in ministry 25+ years, and have spoken about Biblical marriage and sexuality...and even now people in our congregation ask if I still hold to the traditional orthodox Biblical view of sexuality and I have to say "Yes of course...nothing has changed." The reason they ask me though is because they have gotten shell-shocked to all the pastors they thought they "knew" over the years flip flopping on the issue. It's disconcerting for them and though we may have felt we've succinctly taught on it before, we're going to need to do it again...and again.
Please read my comment above GOT a guy that has this Andy Stanley Mindset that attends my home church i have to be around him all the time in my Bible study group he has a lot of input on those men in that group because he does these Samaritions Purse events all the time yet if you bring up anything abortion gay marriage or what is the best canidate to vote for that best fits our Christian world view he says we do not talk about political issues in this mens Bible study Its not part of your christian walk he shuts the conversation down every time about any of those subjects everybody seems to listen to him yet my Pastor is a Solid guy think kind person running around the church i bad
Thank you for holding biblical principals. Andy Stanley is a heretic.
Thank you Pastor for sharing and speaking the truth of GOD”s Holy Word. We appreciate your. Stand!!!! Blessings to Everyone 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️
Thank You for preaching the truth! Gosh we need more pastors who will speak out against false teachers! Yes, God bless you Pastor Gary!
Gary Hamric is absolutely correct. Christ associated with all types of people who were lost in their sin, the difference here is that HE didn't condone their sin HE told them to go and sin no more. If we are affirming the delusion, if we are condoning the lies, we will never help them understand the freedom found in Christ Jesus.
hey WOKE STANLEY... and GARY HAMRIC, face it: you're a fundamentalist, a doctrinaire, you don't promote Christianity but christianISM, you're an ideologue. The New Testament has a word for you: Pharisee. And the Old Testament has a word for. you: Idolator. You put "your biblical way" higher than God. James 3 is not about Andy Stanley... it's about YOU!!! Evangelicalism is being CALLED-OUT and it's dying. What's killing it? THE LOVE OF GOD.
@@annapiaggi77 WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
Thank you for being a Pastor that we can count on to call out sin! I can only imagine that if his Dad, Dr. Charles Stanley, were with us today this would break his heart. He was truly a man after God's own heart...as I believe you are. God bless you, Pastor Gary!
Unfortunately, Dr. Stanley was alive when Andy started down this path. i don’t believe we really know if he said anything to Andy or not. 😢
I thank pastors like Gary , he’s solid. We are in the end times falling away, the apostasy of the latter days. Pray for your Christian leaders that they don’t slide from the truth.
hey WOKE STANLEY... face it: you're a fundamentalist, a doctrinaire, you don't promote Christianity but christianISM, you're an ideologue. The New Testament has a word for you: Pharisee. And the Old Testament has a word for. you: Idolator. You put "your biblical way" higher than God. James 3 is not about Andy Stanley... it's about YOU!!!
i think i know how LOT felt now the deception Jesus warned about is flanted in your face even with in the SO called churchs woe to these guys on Judgement day
I’ve never understood why having a different interpretation makes someone “perverse” or an “unbeliever”. Some believers drink alcohol, some speak in tongues, there are women pastors, etc. Why does it have to be an all out war?
We stand with you
Preach it!
Who has risen up and spoken more perverse things and drawn as many "believers" as Trump!
Glad You are a man of integrity.
We need more pastors like Hamrick.
Only few pastor remain brother.
mind changed... i see the light
Pastor, THANK YOU for preaching/teaching the TRUTH from the Bible...unafraid!!
He is bold!
hey WOKE STANLEY... and GARY HAMRIC, face it: you're a fundamentalist, a doctrinaire, you don't promote Christianity but christianISM, you're an ideologue. The New Testament has a word for you: Pharisee. And the Old Testament has a word for. you: Idolator. You put "your biblical way" higher than God. James 3 is not about Andy Stanley... it's about YOU!!! Evangelicalism is being CALLED-OUT and it's dying. What's killing it? THE LOVE OF GOD.
@@annapiaggi77 This comment is evidence that you don't know God, let alone the Bible.
@@annapiaggi77 You use an awful lot of buzz words. Do you even know what they mean?
@@lionoffireministries - quite the opposite - my guess is I know the Bible better than you. what you know is EVANGELICAL versions of the Bible, but you don't know church history, hermeneutics, languages, or context. ALL YOU KNOW IS ISMS & OLOGIES. That's it.
I also love his sermon on the transing of America. It’s right on.
Thankyou Lord that there are still godly men who preach the truth.
hey WOKE STANLEY... and GARY HAMRIC, face it: you're a fundamentalist, a doctrinaire, you don't promote Christianity but christianISM, you're an ideologue. The New Testament has a word for you: Pharisee. And the Old Testament has a word for. you: Idolator. You put "your biblical way" higher than God. James 3 is not about Andy Stanley... it's about YOU!!! Evangelicalism is being CALLED-OUT and it's dying. What's killing it? THE LOVE OF GOD.
Thank you for taking a stand.
Andy has lost his mind. 🙏🏻
ACTUALLY... YOU HAVE!!! hey WOKE STANLEY... and GARY HAMRIC, face it: you're a fundamentalist, a doctrinaire, you don't promote Christianity but christianISM, you're an ideologue. The New Testament has a word for you: Pharisee. And the Old Testament has a word for. you: Idolator. You put "your biblical way" higher than God. James 3 is not about Andy Stanley... it's about YOU!!! Evangelicalism is being CALLED-OUT and it's dying. What's killing it? THE LOVE OF GOD.
Other than the unfortunate use of the term “inerrancy” amen.
Amen God bless you
Andy Stanley is CHARLES STANLEY son?!! Just why?!
Thank you for exposing the evil that is coming out of Andy Stanley’s church.
More power to you. May the Holy Almighty God bless you and your family always and I hope and pray that other Pastors follow your ways and boldness to preach the truth, not politically correct, and preach every Bible verse not pick and choose.
Pray for Andy!
I don't know anything about Gary Hamrick, but I agree with what he says in this video clip.
Pray for Andy Stanley.
That he hears the rebuke and makes the changes God wants.
If you still sin,
You hath not seen him,
Neither known him.
The Word of God.
Awake to righteousness.
If you think you don't sin . You do not know him .
@@tomlord4469 that’s the opposite of what the Bible says…
1Jn 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
If you continue to sin,
Who are you of Tom?
@@tomlord4469
If you continue in sin, like you said you have to, you should know him, correct?
1Jn 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
“Whosoever sinneth,
HATH NOT SEEN HIM,
NEITHER KNOWN HIM.”
Tom, do you want to correct your belief?
It’s not recommended to go against the Word of God…
What scripture is he talking about that is inerrant and infallible? Has he got a certain translation in mind on that?
Probably the original languages, not any specific translation.
No, it isn't put exactly like that, but 2 Timothy 3:16 comes to mind and Jesus said "Not a letter or part of a letter will pass away until it is fulfilled"....Jesus again John 10:35 "the scriptures cannot be broken.
Hope that helps. God bless you and enlighten you as you search the scriptures. P.S. many preachers and theologians use the phrase "the infallible word of God, or the inerrancy of scripture.
@@ryankelly9032 But we also don't have the original texts so what is it that he says is inerrant and infallible?
@@gailbarton3799 But what do we do about the NT? 2 Timothy 3:16....which was probably not written by Paul but has an unknown author.....was only speaking about what we know of as the OT. Taking that verse and using it to apply to the NT is blatantly taking it out of its context. The same goes for Jesus' words which were also about the OT. And in neither of those places does the author of 2 Timothy or Jesus says scriptural texts are inerrant or infallible.
@RyGuyDCL so you believe he is in error calling out @andystanleyofficial ?
Yeah…y’all keep arguing doctrine. JESUS did NOT have a doctrine.
The teachings of Jesus was Sound Doctrine
hey WOKE STANLEY... and GARY HAMRIC, face it: you're a fundamentalist, a doctrinaire, you don't promote Christianity but christianISM, you're an ideologue. The New Testament has a word for you: Pharisee. And the Old Testament has a word for. you: Idolator. You put "your biblical way" higher than God. James 3 is not about Andy Stanley... it's about YOU!!! Evangelicalism is being CALLED-OUT and it's dying. What's killing it? THE LOVE OF GOD.
@@thekidd263 true …but what denomination really teaches it ? Zero.
I visited this church around 2016. While the subject of homosexuality was not mentioned the service was a feel good atmosphere. No mention of the Bible sin the cross or repentance. I went three times and I didn’t go back. I wonder why Charles Stanley didn’t take a stand.
Need to call out the ARC churches & Chris Hodges & their perverse false teachings, tongues & women pastors ! 1st Timothy 2: 12
Biblical justice v. Social Justice? Racism in khakis with a bible!
I agree with Pastor Hamrick...BUT What IS APALLING TO ME, IS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL ATTENDING A N D SUPPORTING THIS BLASPHEMY !! ITS THE BLING LEADING THE BLIND!! TALK ABOUT BEING GIVEN OVER TO A DELUSION FOR NOT LOVING THE TRUTH! READ 2 THESS. 2 ch. 9-12 verses!😂 2:10
Dont be supprised if Andy comes out as bisexual or gay in future. I believe he is setting the stage for himself..
yeah well... you're NUTS! hey WOKE STANLEY... and GARY HAMRIC, face it: you're a fundamentalist, a doctrinaire, you don't promote Christianity but christianISM, you're an ideologue. The New Testament has a word for you: Pharisee. And the Old Testament has a word for. you: Idolator. You put "your biblical way" higher than God. James 3 is not about Andy Stanley... it's about YOU!!! Evangelicalism is being CALLED-OUT and it's dying. What's killing it? THE LOVE OF GOD.
Yup...my wife and I have been saying the same thing for quite a while
I do too!
I am going to confirm, but I heard this story has an interesting twist.
What do you mean?
Andy Stanley will most likely come out of the closet as a homosexual soon..........
I fully agree
you're a homophobe and a judger. "hey WOKE STANLEY... and GARY HAMRIC, face it: you're a fundamentalist, a doctrinaire, you don't promote Christianity but christianISM, you're an ideologue. The New Testament has a word for you: Pharisee. And the Old Testament has a word for. you: Idolator. You put "your biblical way" higher than God. James 3 is not about Andy Stanley... it's about YOU!!! Evangelicalism is being CALLED-OUT and it's dying. What's killing it? THE LOVE OF GOD."
Deut 6.4-6, Mark 12.28-32, John 17.3, John 20.17, Rom 15.6, Rom 16.27, I Cor 8.6, II Cor 11.31, I Tim 2.5, Rev 3.2, Rev 3.12, and many other scriptures.
Stanley is a false teacher. He has discounted the bible and said it is unfortunate that so many Christians see it as the foundation of thier faith.
I'm sure Dr Charles Stanley is in heaven praying for his sons redemption
For those who think of themselves as Christians - Jesus said "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. " Anybody want to venture what similar works that they have done? (And just preaching doesn't count as "works")
yes when this ANDY STANLEY MINDSET gets into your family and you try to confront it in love you are told judge not lest you be judged and that your spotting hate speech yet that person claims to be a christian and says they know the word of GOD and your not being loving what do you do i go to bed in tears know my daughter in l aw and son think this way whats worse shes a pastor of a CHURCH and attends these type of conferences i was at new mens Bible study at another church 15 guys where all men 3 of the men from my home church i brought my problem up within this group of men to see if they could help me with this one of the 3 men that attend this meeting started mocking me for bringing this up in this group and did not want to me to talk about it he had this Andy Stanley mindset towards me and i thought he was my friend now what do i do with him i see him at my church all the time really makes you not want to go to church this to is upsetting me because i want to be in that MENS Bible study but i know he will be there
Andy waited til his father passed away to bring forth his perverted preaching.
Well, hes doing this infront of God. Bible says not to do something to make others stumble. Andy is going to get Gods wrath.
Yes and no. Back in 2012 was a very troubling message that demonstrated affirming views. Affirming baptism in 2019. I'm not sure how close Charles kept tabs on Andy and NP. A lot of it went under the radar. And Andy never anticipated this conference getting out to general public. Andy and NP never marketed it. I discovered it bc I was aware of Embracingthejourney.org and there affirming views. The Mohlers of the world tend to ignore the discoveries of everyday folks like me. But it finally caught there attention and exploded.
@@wokestanleyI'm very glad you've brought this to attention. I watched another pastor online who has done the same as yourself. He contacted Andy numerous times over a few years and instructed him to repent.
You are right, I'd say this conference had been planned for some time, perhaps his father tried to talk to him on issues or maybe people shielded his father from this as he was frail at the end. Regardless, Andy grew up in truth and God doesn't change and his word doesn't change. We change. But only if we decide to.
God won't wink at these things forever. He won't be mocked.
Thank you for this vid. Will keep praying for Andy and the like to come back to truth.
Maybe Andy Stanley was never truly called by God to be a pastor. Hes just taking over the family business and wanting to make his own new "Progressive" changes now that hes in charge. He is not a biblical pastor. He is running his own pseudo Christian church business. Plenty of men out there doing the same. Not to worry!
God will seperate the wheat from the tares in His appointed time.
He has said he never felt called but rather just volunteered for ministry
Perversion of God's truth, particular by preachers, is more to draw people to themselves and their earthly kingdom than to draw people to Christ and his Kingdom. May Stanley and North Point bow the knee to Christ.
The prophecy of Enoch in the book of Jude right before our eyes.
your ministry is another mans sermon? this is laughable
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1:32 Hamrick's denunciation of churches that "substitute social justice for biblical justice - that's perverse " . What the hell is he talking about ! Biblical justice is textually demonstrable as social justice ! Christ's redemptive ministry was ( and is ) about personal salvation through honouring the Father by an active compassion for those who are outcast , impoverished , and generally mistreated by both others and also through the cruel agency of institutional domination . The phrases "social justice " and "biblical justice " are semantically equivalent !
Apostate church is here.... open your eyes
Andy is so far removed from the gospel that his dad Charles preached all his life 😪
Your right. It's sad but people need to know the evil deeds of darkness going on there.
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You "hate" to "do it", yet you do it so well, don't you? It is in fact, effortless, isn't it? Perhaps you might enhance your walk with God if you took time to meditate on Matthew 18:15.
Andy didn't sin against Gary specifically! Public response to public comments
Andy told his congregation this morning that he reached out to you, as he explained what the Unconditional Conference was all about. It’s interesting you didn’t confront him before saying what you did to your congregation.
Parents who have children that “come out of the closet” often hide in their own closet. The conference was there as a means of support for the parents, as they often feel guilty thinking they did something wrong in raising their child.
So what should the church do?
What does your church do to minister to them?
Andy also said this morning that marriage is between a man and a woman and homosexuality is a sin.
He wanted to address his network of churches before addressing the public about recent comments being made, so be on the lookout for his response
BTW….the church is supposed to work out their differences within the church. I don’t think making our grievances public helps lead anyone to Christ.
In my previous post, I assumed I was responding to Gary.
Andy reached out to Gary after he made his comments. If anyone had issues with Andy they could have reached out to him. Few if any have. They’ve chosen to air this out for the world to see.
It is supposed to be worked out privately, as Paul said.
Andy will address this soon after first speaking to his flock yesterday after all the hurts this hoax has caused.
@@junkyardhawg1154 no you're wrong about responding privately. Eph 5:11.
Andy did not say homosexuality is a sin on Sunday.
I concur; i did NOT hear him say homosexuality is a sin in the service I attended at 11 am.
@@tanyabrown4624 did Andy say marriage was between a man and a woman?
Did Andy say honor God with your body?
Did Andy say no sex outside marriage?
Perhaps you would have only been satisfied if he had graphics showing LQBTQ being thrown into HELL and burnt a Gay flag.
What is your church doing to minister in this area? Do you have a link?
Thanks
God bless America where a pastor can make a comment and making assumptions that aren't true. Gary proved this just with this clip. At no point has Andy Stanley affirmed anything but (1) sex outside of marriage is a sin and (2) marriage is between a woman and a man. He has reaffirmed that as recently as 10-1-2023 in front of God and his church. If my kids struggled with substance abuse, porn, or "basic" rebellion, I would want the Church to help me with the resources in dealing with that matter both in my life and theirs. Why would I want anyone but the Church to help me if my kids were struggling with homosexuality? Andy affirmed we are to love our children and maintain a healthy relationship with them.
How is having two gay "married" homosexuals on stage at your church not affirming sin? Explain that please. Why are these pagans uniquely qualified to speak to these parents?
@@wokestanley , you don't want an explanation; merely to promote hatred (thus, your "pagan" reference). I'm not affirming anything. But since you asked, I'll answer but won't stoop to arguing. As a parent, I'm 100% unqualified on what it's like to believe in Christ while also attracted to another man. I wouldn't begin to know what to tell a parent facing this struggle with a child. But someone who has gone through this can't explain better than any what that is like. Parents who faced this already can't talk about what they had to face. And parents going through this struggle now need to hear from those (both kids and parents) on what it was like. Would it make it more convenient if I were qualified? Sure. But I'm not. You're placing motive and making assumptions. Good luck with that.
@@chrispike9861 You don’t need to be qualified to speak truth. You want to hear the message from two men who have undergone a process that mimics marriage but is not actually marriage? They disobeyed God and think that He has “blessed” them, when God calls what they’ve done an abomination. It’s THEM you want speaking to your kids instead of warriors of the faith who can guide your children to the Light?
@@chrispike9861 Hi. I am sure you know the difference between having two practicing gay men who accept and promote the gay lifestyle on a church stage and having former homosexuals and Christian parents who have gay children teaching Biblical truth about how to love and support those caught up in the gay lifestyle. Andy could have asked Jackie Hill Perry to be a presenter, because she came out of the gay lifestyle and is very direct about helping the straight community understand and be compassionate towards those in the gay lifestyle.
I have a ministry to Christians who are justice-involved and who have struggled with addiction. I would not expect a pastor to showcase justice-involved people who celebrate crime or those with addictions who promote addictive behavior, such as porn, drugs, or alcohol.
What seems to be at the crux of this controversy is that Andy Stanley has not affirmed that the gay lifestyle is sin.
So many gadabouts.......
It seems to me that all of us have fallen short of Gods perfect plan. There is no one righteous. Not even one. I’m thankful for the blood. Whosoever is without sin let him cast that first stone.
They can come have dinner with me. We’re having salmon croquettes and oven roasted potatoes. Or something else I can whip up from my pantry. It’s a big table and we can always scoot chairs in and put the leaf in.
Agreed.