Honestly I think that at the end of the day it has more to do with the entire audience instead of just the pro scene. They need to cater to their entire audience
The problem all along is they ONLY listen to the "pro" players instead of everyone else. As for matchmaking, please, that's a joke. I've gone from playing 2 plus hrs. a day to less than 2 hrs. a week because I'm tired of the 20 bomb preds in every lobby. It used to be fun, but now it's just frustrating, making logging on pointless.
Right? The “balance matched making” doesn’t even feel balanced. I’m not even good and I miss a lot of my shots so I don’t know how I end up with such sweats.
@@nathanmurphy5527 the lobbies got better in that patch and it helped me get to diamond. thats a personal best for me. i agree before the matchmaking patch the lobbies were crazy, at least now the lobbies are competeable at diamond and easier in plat. if you can't get the diamond now you have some work to do. and also you wont get their playing 2 hours a week.
Unpopular opinion but for me, the biggest problem is the double heals from cells and syringes.. in a BR thats main concept is doing more damage than you take and capitalizing off of that in a coordinated manner with your team, it's way too easy for support to reset in comparison to every other Legend class. Just a stupidly strong advantage that also makes resource management way more forgiving
Trying to balance that would be a nightmare. Although Skirmishers need a buff. Scanning care packages isnt that great tbh because most go for an air-drop for the instand evo. Buffing so many other classes to make them equal with supports makes it super hard to balance them all. Some will be OP whilst others still being crap
This season is one of the worst in a long time, forced ltm with relic weapons which are annoying af to fight against and you cant earn badges, supports being way too overtuned. Im all for buffing supports to make them more useful but double small heals, increased revive speed, etc was just way too much. Giving the entire class the old gold armor passive was a dumb decision and it really shows how little the devs play test their game, if they even do. Buffing New castle at all was already pretty crazy considering he has literally never been a bad legend, people just dont play him because playing as a babysitter isnt as fun as playing as a legend with a stim, jetpack, phase, etc Nevermind the fact we all know none of them actually play this garbage casually.
ranked match making got better I’m not getting matched with 20 preds in my last few plat games i played last night before ranking up to diamond so that’s cool
My aim on SMG is gone because of this season I tried using the volt for a game and it was so hard to kill anyone when your the only person in the lobby that has to aim
Matchmaking for Plats is actually better. Diamond is still weird: 4 is mostly fine. 3 is okayish. But once you hit 2 it is over. The last match I played was against 6 of the top 10 Preds on console in my region.
Matchmaking is a little better, it will prio plats and diamonds before masters/pred but sometimes still have master/pred in lobbies. SMGs could use a little buff, not a lot, but to better compete with shotguns which are stronger now
Removing good knocks is going to help supports more,and with the revive passive to auto heal to full no other legend can do it so there’s no balancing unless 70% of players in the lobby are support but nobody should feel forced to go support just to compete … if they want to balance it just reduce the healing when revived by a support
Respawn low-key nerfed Mad Maggie and nobody notices huh. The ball doesn't break Gibby's Dome and it bounces off doors and it needs to take out Newcastle's mobile shield 🤬.
Respawn should just limit each type of legend to 1 per team so you can't stack more than 1 support/skirmisher/control etc, etc at least in ranked. Individually nerfing lineline and castle is just a dumb move. Support is strong because of fast heals and ressing with health regen.
That what I'm saying, just buff all the legends. Why they keep nerfing legends, this is like super sayian goku fighting baseform vegeta, then goku switch back to baseform while vegeta go super sayian. So stupid
They need to nerf the health regen support characters give when reviving a downed teammate. You should not be able to gain back your full health while still taking zone damage in zone 1 and 2. Haven't tested in zone 3
I'm in diamond and it's not to bad def seems a little better get some masters and preds in a few games but that can't really be helped when master/preds can still group with diamonds putting them in the lower ranked lobbies
4:17 I find it funny that they ask us for our opinion on matchmaking for ranked but not for casual this game is dead when it comes to the little people
Ranked matching has improved for Solo Q but not team queues IMO. Thanks for the update! I don’t see why they don’t just add a score to everyone for play style and then add everyone’s up to average out to matchmake properly. Not sure how it’s done but they ain’t doing it right.
@@alexreese3216 sure I’m just saying her being a support legend compared to other supports doesn’t make sense anymore sense everyone can craft banners plus she doesn’t get any of the perks others do besides the mobile on replicator
My opinion is on my games i have found that i have either all plats in my lobby and like maybe 2 or 3 gold and maybe 1 or 2 silvers. Either way im playing mainly plats and thats my rank so im fine with it keep up on good matchmaking
The newcastle nerf isn't bad however it does seem brain dead and as if they put no effort into it. They didn't tough almost anything that the community actually wanted touched and seemed to only touch just enough to hope the community would hush.
Grinding thru plat sucked. I was getting killed by full diamond squads regardless of the time of the day. Finally made it but it sucked so bad. Sbmm can't function correctly if there aren't enough ppl even playing the game
So kill the support meta to return to the stale skirmisher sweat meta? (For non pro players) At least with the support meta randoms had an incentive to play as a team now it’s back to them effin off for the majority of the time.
Staying deleted until I get arenas and other game modes that make more people wanna come back and have fun. Not just the 100 pro players that suck the fun out of literally everything. Or the fucking 10 GB updates for skins.
That's bullshit! Those buffs were balanced since the skilled based match making is garbage. I'm going up against 3 stack predators in a gold ranked lobby ( literal predators) with 1 bronze and 1 silver as teammates but yall complaining about Newcastle and Lifeline... smh
So because matchmaking is trash, buffing support to the point of making them mandatory on every team fixes the three stack pred issue for you? You have even less of a chance to win now because those same three stack preds are now using legends that can throw up barriers and get free revives off. Gotta be silver stuck 😂
Damn those nerfs.... not a good call for newcastle but hey fuck it...cough "buff seer to stop revives and heals" cough cough easily handle support meta
I don’t agree, I’ve had pretty fair matchmaking for the last couple of days. Extremely even as far as rank difference goes. And not a single masters or pred player in my plat/diamond lobbies
2:30 To be honest the Apex devs need to stop listening to these big named streamers and listen to the people who struggle to have fun on this game because of these sweats its sweats. How is it that Marvel Rivals just came out and their matchmaking is great and their reporting system is great too 🤔 why can’t apex be like that ?
Good changes BUT, it’s not for the casual players. We want solo match makings. You cannot play this season meta without a trio . It’s unplayable.Also make a fricking themed skin for every season , as a reward for different ranking or something . Fix the rewards,give the players motivation to come back and grind.
They could buff or nerf literally anything and I won't be coming back to this shitty ahh game. Matchmaking, Cheaters, and Whiny pros. This game is just a clown show.
Saying Newcastles sheild should have health is not good. I think if gibby gets an indestructible dome, then newc should get an indestructible sheild simple
Gibby’s dome is immobile. NC shield can move at sprint speed and be used to push teams with the team not having the ability to do anything about it. definitely needs to be destructible.
@@brinedoes1344 Bro they haven’t done anything with the skirmish class since they made the update for perks and stuff I mean nothing, the scrimmage class has the stupidest ability man, the new character alter She sucks too. Definitely needs a buff
@@ianhargrove7813 true, I used to main octane and most of the skirm legends but after noticing their perks, it seems like they have the lesser end of the stick. Octane even with god level movement can’t compete against a 2 supp 1 assault team comp. Mechanics just doesn’t matter now with people spamming bubbles and insta heals.
I feel like the matching has gotten a lot better, went from getting shit in gold at the start of the split, to dominating plat lobby’s the past couple days
Honestly I think that at the end of the day it has more to do with the entire audience instead of just the pro scene. They need to cater to their entire audience
I always see people calling out Respawn for catering to pros, but imo they haven't catered to anything or anyone that's why the game is where it is 😂
The problem all along is they ONLY listen to the "pro" players instead of everyone else. As for matchmaking, please, that's a joke. I've gone from playing 2 plus hrs. a day to less than 2 hrs. a week because I'm tired of the 20 bomb preds in every lobby. It used to be fun, but now it's just frustrating, making logging on pointless.
Right? The “balance matched making” doesn’t even feel balanced. I’m not even good and I miss a lot of my shots so I don’t know how I end up with such sweats.
They bring the original charge rifle back everybody is going down -dave
The matchmaking is for ranked, not casual game. Why should we listen to you while you are play 2 hours a week? Make it make sense.
@@WhosMathew beacuse that's 90 percent of the players ranked is crazy right now!
@@nathanmurphy5527 the lobbies got better in that patch and it helped me get to diamond. thats a personal best for me. i agree before the matchmaking patch the lobbies were crazy, at least now the lobbies are competeable at diamond and easier in plat. if you can't get the diamond now you have some work to do. and also you wont get their playing 2 hours a week.
Plat match making is solid during the daytime, if you play around 3 am you’ll definitely get some preds
Unpopular opinion but for me, the biggest problem is the double heals from cells and syringes.. in a BR thats main concept is doing more damage than you take and capitalizing off of that in a coordinated manner with your team, it's way too easy for support to reset in comparison to every other Legend class. Just a stupidly strong advantage that also makes resource management way more forgiving
It's only unpopular because it doesn't involve massive nerfs to characters people don't like playing against. Lol
Double heals while maintaining walking speed, super balanced.
@@ZGtx Exactly.. I'd bet money they didn't play test that shit lol
The pro's constant complaining is what has ruined this game.
They should have buffed all the other classes, not nerf one particular classs
100%
no not at all. I can not think of any other class that needs a buff unless you want a step back in buffing recon but they got a buff not long ago
Trying to balance that would be a nightmare. Although Skirmishers need a buff. Scanning care packages isnt that great tbh because most go for an air-drop for the instand evo.
Buffing so many other classes to make them equal with supports makes it super hard to balance them all. Some will be OP whilst others still being crap
This season is one of the worst in a long time, forced ltm with relic weapons which are annoying af to fight against and you cant earn badges, supports being way too overtuned.
Im all for buffing supports to make them more useful but double small heals, increased revive speed, etc was just way too much. Giving the entire class the old gold armor passive was a dumb decision and it really shows how little the devs play test their game, if they even do. Buffing New castle at all was already pretty crazy considering he has literally never been a bad legend, people just dont play him because playing as a babysitter isnt as fun as playing as a legend with a stim, jetpack, phase, etc
Nevermind the fact we all know none of them actually play this garbage casually.
ranked match making got better I’m not getting matched with 20 preds in my last few plat games i played last night before ranking up to diamond so that’s cool
My aim on SMG is gone because of this season I tried using the volt for a game and it was so hard to kill anyone when your the only person in the lobby that has to aim
Match making does seem better
Afternoon legend 🙏🏻 hope your all good. Can’t wait until split 2 finished split 1 month ago.
What’s your rank for split 1?
pred 4351 rp
@DeFt_cometyour insane bro! My peak rank is actually this season dimond 4 right now. Hoping to get a little higher into diamond.
@ I’m not insane I just don’t have a life
Lol, respawn only takes care of what pros want, they don´t care about the other players
As a plat player, I’ve noticed no preds but I can’t say that I’ve noticed absolutely any other change to matchmaking since that update
Greatttt as if smgs weren't the meta for long enough
Matchmaking for Plats is actually better. Diamond is still weird: 4 is mostly fine. 3 is okayish. But once you hit 2 it is over. The last match I played was against 6 of the top 10 Preds on console in my region.
pc : had pred lobbies from plat 2 to master solo q so diamond 2 for those lobbies seems like a dream
@fors8685 yeah me too, but since the update came out it has mostly been the way i described
I met #38, #27, and some other 200 number in my Plat I lobby the other day. It's not better
They need to fix matchmaking, add better gamemodes, nerf lmg and buff smgs and revisit the worst legend each role
Matchmaking is a little better, it will prio plats and diamonds before masters/pred but sometimes still have master/pred in lobbies. SMGs could use a little buff, not a lot, but to better compete with shotguns which are stronger now
Rollback Mad Maggie ult nerf it was not needed
When do relics weapons event go away?
At this points, what is there to talk about in Apex anymore. 😢
SMG's stuck in a mid but ok spot, Volt and Alternator are still good, R9 only when red tier.
R9 needs to be back on the ground and the CAR is nerfed into oblivion
Removing good knocks is going to help supports more,and with the revive passive to auto heal to full no other legend can do it so there’s no balancing unless 70% of players in the lobby are support but nobody should feel forced to go support just to compete … if they want to balance it just reduce the healing when revived by a support
Give crypto a drone stack of three and be able to switch between them low the the health to balance it out
What was the point of making support strong to walk it back ?
Respawn low-key nerfed Mad Maggie and nobody notices huh. The ball doesn't break Gibby's Dome and it bounces off doors and it needs to take out Newcastle's mobile shield 🤬.
Respawn should just limit each type of legend to 1 per team so you can't stack more than 1 support/skirmisher/control etc, etc at least in ranked. Individually nerfing lineline and castle is just a dumb move. Support is strong because of fast heals and ressing with health regen.
What’s the point walking back everything everything ends up sucking ass
Just put Newcastle back to how he was. I'm tired all these new Newcastles taking my legend😂 I liked it better when he was slept on
That what I'm saying, just buff all the legends. Why they keep nerfing legends, this is like super sayian goku fighting baseform vegeta, then goku switch back to baseform while vegeta go super sayian. So stupid
Its not the pros or the support class, its the shotgun meta .
Can a crypto in his drone see another invisible crypto?
They need to nerf the health regen support characters give when reviving a downed teammate. You should not be able to gain back your full health while still taking zone damage in zone 1 and 2. Haven't tested in zone 3
I played earlier and it seems like they nerf how fast the regen happens but they need to remove it all together
nerfs were highly needed, but for sure need some more changes for support class
All those buffs/nerfs and recolors but they forgot why we loved apex..😢
Never played against diamond or higher in plat ranked, exept some gold players with 3 pred badges, but thats not the matchmakings fault
I'm in diamond and it's not to bad def seems a little better get some masters and preds in a few games but that can't really be helped when master/preds can still group with diamonds putting them in the lower ranked lobbies
4:17 I find it funny that they ask us for our opinion on matchmaking for ranked but not for casual this game is dead when it comes to the little people
Ranked matching has improved for Solo Q but not team queues IMO. Thanks for the update!
I don’t see why they don’t just add a score to everyone for play style and then add everyone’s up to average out to matchmake properly. Not sure how it’s done but they ain’t doing it right.
A game for everyone is a game for no one.
I’m Diamond 3 & got put in a few lobbies with preds. One game had 14 preds ☠️
I think they should jus add in perks which jus as op for the other classes, that way it makes a a rock, paper, scissors environment
I was so angry when that mad Maggie took my kill
I hope they dont touch my girl Loba, she does not need buffs or nerfs
no she does! it does not make sense how other supports grant fast healing but she provides nothing else but her ult
@@strivingtogrow8612 Loba is literally the most perfectly balanced character in the game atm
@@alexreese3216 sure I’m just saying her being a support legend compared to other supports doesn’t make sense anymore sense everyone can craft banners plus she doesn’t get any of the perks others do besides the mobile on replicator
doesn’t she get double heal
She's pretty basic
At this points we can say buffs and nerfs are the equivalent of content in apex legends.
It’s been
I'm excited for the EPG!
My opinion is on my games i have found that i have either all plats in my lobby and like maybe 2 or 3 gold and maybe 1 or 2 silvers. Either way im playing mainly plats and thats my rank so im fine with it keep up on good matchmaking
The newcastle nerf isn't bad however it does seem brain dead and as if they put no effort into it. They didn't tough almost anything that the community actually wanted touched and seemed to only touch just enough to hope the community would hush.
the split is basically over seemed hella short probably a moneymaking move
Grinding thru plat sucked. I was getting killed by full diamond squads regardless of the time of the day. Finally made it but it sucked so bad. Sbmm can't function correctly if there aren't enough ppl even playing the game
If not even a pro that once was n.1 pred could solo q to master, why would a casual try to solo q rank?
Why is normal trios still so sweaty?
Because of high ego triple stack pub stompers
most people play apex everyday, it is not a casual game at all
Why is NOVEL always playing on high pings ?
So kill the support meta to return to the stale skirmisher sweat meta? (For non pro players)
At least with the support meta randoms had an incentive to play as a team now it’s back to them effin off for the majority of the time.
It's better
Staying deleted until I get arenas and other game modes that make more people wanna come back and have fun. Not just the 100 pro players that suck the fun out of literally everything. Or the fucking 10 GB updates for skins.
So no one else seen Mirage got from 40% to 80% immediately on that clip?? I hardly play as him but huuuuhhhh
That's bullshit! Those buffs were balanced since the skilled based match making is garbage. I'm going up against 3 stack predators in a gold ranked lobby ( literal predators) with 1 bronze and 1 silver as teammates but yall complaining about Newcastle and Lifeline... smh
So because matchmaking is trash, buffing support to the point of making them mandatory on every team fixes the three stack pred issue for you? You have even less of a chance to win now because those same three stack preds are now using legends that can throw up barriers and get free revives off. Gotta be silver stuck 😂
Damn those nerfs.... not a good call for newcastle but hey fuck it...cough "buff seer to stop revives and heals" cough cough easily handle support meta
Ranked has been way better than pubs for me. You know it's an issue when diamond/master ranked lobbies are easier than pubs lmao
The pros are gonna kill this game. Anytime they don’t like sumthing the devs walk it back.
Not gonna lie, SMG's were already meta and annoying in Apex...Always have been. Movement characters and smg's=Apex
They took out revivals and straight shot
So now choices are sucky and ranked suckier
The Matchmaking so still so bad
I don’t agree, I’ve had pretty fair matchmaking for the last couple of days. Extremely even as far as rank difference goes. And not a single masters or pred player in my plat/diamond lobbies
@ohs7eepergaming yea i think its sometimes a bit Different in my oppionen its shit (sorry for English Not the BEST XD)
Lol@past couple days@@ohs7eepergaming
@@piotrkosztirko438 yeah well they only changed a few days ago? Lmao so how could it have been better before?
@ohs7eepergaming It's been bad since S0, newbie.
I think the respawn devs are hella weird
2:30 To be honest the Apex devs need to stop listening to these big named streamers and listen to the people who struggle to have fun on this game because of these sweats its sweats. How is it that Marvel Rivals just came out and their matchmaking is great and their reporting system is great too 🤔 why can’t apex be like that ?
Can they make a pro lobby just for them because they complain 24/7 they want apex to try new things but then if they don’t like it they cry
Good changes BUT, it’s not for the casual players. We want solo match makings. You cannot play this season meta without a trio . It’s unplayable.Also make a fricking themed skin for every season , as a reward for different ranking or something . Fix the rewards,give the players motivation to come back and grind.
When is mirage gonna get some love even if its a prestige skin
Nope in plat I am playing mostly Dimond and masters 😭
Smg was nerfed auto aim and then they nerfed the smgs again so
They never do anything Dec-Feb,
The matchmaking is still trash plat 1 every game vs 9 to 5 preds
teaming is the problem
They could buff or nerf literally anything and I won't be coming back to this shitty ahh game. Matchmaking, Cheaters, and Whiny pros. This game is just a clown show.
Saying Newcastles sheild should have health is not good. I think if gibby gets an indestructible dome, then newc should get an indestructible sheild simple
Gibby’s dome is immobile. NC shield can move at sprint speed and be used to push teams with the team not having the ability to do anything about it. definitely needs to be destructible.
@@UziimeisterGibby’s dome and NC shield are both Q’s.
No in ranked for me has not been better!!
4:32 community clips
match making is better now ngl
Give wraith her instant Q back.
faide even prefers how the q has a delay.
This collection event is one of the worst ever. Lol
4:22 is better for me
Mozambiques with supports!
I love apex
They need to show some love to the skirmisher class
😂
Fr octane is literally dog water
@@brinedoes1344 Bro they haven’t done anything with the skirmish class since they made the update for perks and stuff I mean nothing, the scrimmage class has the stupidest ability man, the new character alter She sucks too. Definitely needs a buff
@@ianhargrove7813 true, I used to main octane and most of the skirm legends but after noticing their perks, it seems like they have the lesser end of the stick. Octane even with god level movement can’t compete against a 2 supp 1 assault team comp. Mechanics just doesn’t matter now with people spamming bubbles and insta heals.
@ rightttt
This season is so boring and is it just me or is mix tape sweaty af now lol
Seems like pubs have been a lot better!!
If they only want to have pro players play the game then give that to them. Don’t play. It’s pretty easy because it’s a shit game
Games feeling stale for sure
Support 🏥
This guy talks a lot of shite lol
I'm back! what's happening? 😅
Crypto was made useless
Meh let me know when a new legend comes might play bullshit now tho
i want thst bloody heoriilloom man he is my main pls thordan
Buff Caustic!
Preach
day 45 of begging Thordan smash for the anniversary collection event wen it comes out
Plat 3 on Xbox and matchmakings better
The nerfs were neccesary, Lifeline and Newcastle were so OP
Dude stop talking so fast! Can’t even understand half of what you say.
Right now the meta is a clown show. They need it balanced for champs in January. They need to fix it now so that teams can get used to it
I feel like the matching has gotten a lot better, went from getting shit in gold at the start of the split, to dominating plat lobby’s the past couple days
we must be playing different games
@@SensuisRevengethe matchmaking for pubs is still dogshit don’t get me wrong 😭
People still play apex at a serious level? Lol