Hydra the Revenge Review, Dorney Park Bolliger & Mabillard Coaster | Weirdest B&M Floorless
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Hydra the Revenge at Dorney Park is arguably the weirdest Bolliger & Mabillard floorless coaster. This coaster has a unique layout with the inversions seemingly out-of-order. Hydra replaced the former Hercules roller coaster, which was a neat tie-in to Greek mythology and by all accounts, Hydra is a superior ride.
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I have no idea why but I find your content far more entertaining than most other coaster UA-camrs, which is saying a lot. Keep up the good work!
Glad you enjoy it!
Must have gotten at least 30 rides on this weird ride this season. The JoJo roll really never gets old.
The jojo roll is amazing.
Poor Dorney. Hydra had to compete with Kingda Ka its opening year (and previously Talon had to compete with Nitro). While far from B&M's other forceful coasters, it's a fun and unique ride that almost never has a line.
That last part is true for most rides at Dorney.
I think it's my favorite floorless. I love to Jojo roll, the straight drop, and the inversions. Also, it nearly ever has a wait.
Those are all good things.
I honestly think it's super underrated. It is crazy unique for w florless coaster. Definitely not intense but just look at the layout and series of elements. A heart shaped cobra roll, Jojo roll, and incline dive loop all on a B&M Floorless? I'm glad B&M went out of their comfort zone and made something different, something that doesn't feel like a B&M Floorless cause they all feel the same. I hope to see more of that from B&M but as Floorlesses aren't super popular anymore by the general public, probably won't see as many floorlesses.
I love the unique elements like the jojo roll, straight-drop, and out-of-order elements. I just wish some of the inversions later in the ride packed more of a punch.
This is one of the most picturesque coasters I’ve came across. You could take pictures of this for hours and hours if you’re interested in photography.
It was also cool to go down by the water to get new views.
This is my 2nd favorite floorless coaster. I love the very unique layout and strange elements. I have only gotten a very mild rattle in spots. A big issue I usually have with B&M floorless coasters is headbanging, which Hydra has none of. The slower speed and great transitions are the reason why. Plus it's so different from the standard, which can seem boring after riding a lot of them, so this is THE floorless coaster for people who don't care much for floorless coasters (me). It corrects the flaws of the regular ones. Maybe it creates other flaws, but I'm okay with that, because I appreciate uniqueness. It's my favorite ride in the park.
Bizarro is my favorite floorless, just barely. It's a standard layout, but it executes it perfectly, with great transitions, no rattle, and theming.
I agree this is a smoother one and it's very unique.
I was was the first rider after a thunderstorm and had the train to myself. Then I got stuck at the bottom of the lift hill for 20 minutes, so it was a really memorable ride!
I've also gotten stuck on a ride at Dorney near a thunderstorm. Except it was on Talon's lift right before the storm hit.
I definitely agree that this ride delivers nothing in terms of positive gs, but it still holds up as a great ride due to it's smoothness, location, fun factor and weirdness. While it does have quite a few throwaway elements, I love the jojo roll and final corkscrew. The second hill after the cobra roll has some nice floater in the back, and the drop has some sustained airtime too. I think this is a great coaster for Dorney Park, as it reflects Dorney on so many levels. Both the coaster and park are a little weird, but very fun, and not elite, but quite underrated.
I agree the ride has its moments. It just doesn't do what most floorless coasters do.
Canobie Coaster reviews are always the best. I love how you break down the rides.
Thank you!
I rode Hydra for the first time this past summer and I agree its was a weird B&M coaster. It was a lot of fun too. My first ride was in the back row and I was surprise with the airtime I got in the back compared what I got in front. I defiantly recommend riding Hydra in the back row for the best airtime and smoothness.
The back is the spot to ride this.
I never had the impression this coaster is “much maligned” among enthusiasts - maybe not held in particularly high regard, but not disliked, particularly (though I have heard some negative responses).
Anyway, I think it’s a pretty good ride myself.
It seems to be at the bottom of most floorless lists.
I actually love the floorless gimmick! A top 3 B&M model IMO
I don't find much of a difference between their floorless and sit-down coasters myself.
Hyper- Invert- Dive- sorry
Canobie Coaster would say:
The trains feature the familiar B&M over-the-shoulder restraints. They are rather hard, but fortunately Hydra tracks fairly well. There's some jackhammering in a few valleys, but they don't really cause any headbanging, just vibrations that you can feel in your head. Thankfully, the transitions on this coaster do not cause any headbanging. In fact, there's an argument the transitions on this coaster are...
A) quite smooth.
B) very smooth.
C) too smooth.
C
I think one reason this coaster is maligned by enthusiasts is because if Hercules had lasted another 10 years, it would've been RMC'd, and that would've been a true standout coaster for Dorney Park. Hydra is a fun ride, but not particularly intense, and definitely not a standout for the park. So enthusiasts see it as a missed opportunity. I think an RMC Hercules would've been fantastic, but keeping the original around for 10 more years would've sucked, and I'm glad Dorney at least got a decent coaster with high capacity to replace it before the chain turned its back on the park. Otherwise it could've been like Stinger which was removed without replacement.
I agree RMC Hercules would have been incredible.
This is almost at the top of my bucket list
It's a fun ride.
As someone who occasionally operates this coaster, I have a soft spot for it, just an awesome ride.
It's a solid coaster.
I just rode this. I really liked it, it was brutally rough with a very unloaded train(like 10 people on it) but was really smooth fully loaded.
I've had that happen with Kraken.
This looks like something I could handle despite my fear of roller coasters, especially ones that are steep or go upside down
This is an approachable looping coaster.
I have a lot of problems with this coaster, particularly with what it replaced in terms of its terrain/location (if only they waited a few years for an rmc redo of Hercules) but everyone seems to enjoy it, and having medium level intense coasters for families and newer/apprehensive coaster riders is always good to have in your park… and even the worst b and m looper is still a great ride
I definitely wish the drop used the full hill like Hercules.
That jojo roll looks amazing
It sure is.
Now there are several other coasters with similar starts, but when Hydra was built there was nothing anywhere like the JoJo roll.
Canobie Coaster would say:
The trains feature the familiar B&M over-the-shoulder restraints. They are rather hard, but fortunately Hydra tracks fairly well. There's some jackhammering in a few valleys, but they don't really cause any headbanging, just vibrations that you can feel in your head. Thankfully, the transitions on this coaster do not cause any headbanging. In fact, there's an argument the transitions on this coaster are too smooth.
I'm laughing, but imagine saying:
pretty smooth
quite smooth
super smooth
too smooth
These four terms each have an adverb, "pretty", "quite", "super", and "too", followed by "smooth". While the four terms all mean they are smooth, I think there are differences between them. What are? What do you think?
Canobie Coaster would say:
A) Pretty smooth is beyond the smoothness threshold what should be correct.
B) Quite smooth is beyond the smoothness threshold what should be correct.
C) Super smooth is beyond the smoothness threshold what should be correct.
D) Too smooth is beyond the smoothness threshold what should be correct.
D
Man imagine if Hydra Had that Greek theming that Wonder Woman has at Six Flags Feasta Texas. Have some cool Greek pillars plus some billboards telling the story of how the Hydra beat Herculies in the que.
That would be a nice plus!
I recommend sitting towards the back, it's more smoother (prob becuase Hercules had some issues with the structure as well) plus there's more airtime
I always go back row for the airtime.
this coaster is one of my top bucketlist b&ms. you ride enough floorless coasters and they start to blend together. would love to experience a new layout on a model i love. and that jojo roll looks awesome. almost wish they'd have added more, but then it wouldn't be a unique element i guess :')
its a shame hydras not as intense as it looks, but i still cant wait to get a ride on it
What it lacks in intensity is compensated with weirdness.
Not every roller coaster can be the snappiest, meanest, most intense riding experience possible. I think Hydra fits really nicely in the park, giving a more tame alternative to Talon that still provides high thrills due to the unique layout, element choice, and most of all the beautiful shaping on the dive loop and cobra roll. I think that Hydra delivers exactly what it set out to, and gets higher marks from me for that. Airtime on the s-bend passing the station would've been nice, but maybe that was a callback to the crappy airtime found on Hercules. lol
Hydra absolutely smokes Hercules in quality, longevity, ride intensity, layout, originality, capacity, aesthetics... I guess Hercules wins for going over the water, but in every other conceivable metric, Hydra crushes the old woodie.
8/10 for me
I agree this ride seems like a massive upgrade over the rough Hercules.
I actually love the s hill,. I rode this ride all the time this past season. Some days that s hill gives you that stomach Feeling when there’s week negative g’s. I also thing that the dip into the final corkscrew is underrated as well. Also, IT’S A BEAUTIFUL RIDE
I agree it looks great.
i actually really enjoyed hydra on my trip to dorney. like you said, not super forceful but i still thought it was super fun
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
My least favorite B&M that didn't originate as a stand up (Vortex - Patriot). But it's next to Steel Forceless ...I rode Hercules when it was new and it was excellent. Never rode it when it was "hurt your knees." I like RMC stalls but not the first inversion on this thing. And Talon was a disappointment, too - too sanitized in the forces. Hersheypark's inverted is much better. Medusa West's straight drop and inversions are far better, too.
I'd take this over SFNE's Batman but it's definitely one of B&M's weaker offerings despite its uniqueness.
i think this could be this best B&M floorless. Does anyone agree?
As a frequent visitor, no but it’s one heck of a weird ride.
It's one of the most unique, but not every element pops.
My first and favorite floorless (others being Dominator and Rougarou). That Jojo roll is next level
I prefer Dominator to this one, but the jojo roll is the best element on any of those 3 rides.
I am not saying they shouldn't have built this ride because they definitely should've but it's too bad RMC didn't have the technology it has today because Hercules would've been the perfect project for them.
Maybe that could be a future addition for this park if they have room next to it.
I agree RMC Hercules would have been great.
I was asking you how would you compare between Hydra and Hercules in terms of roughness?
Canobie Coaster said: I never rode Hercules, but I heard...
It was very rough.
I think hydra looks fun and I like that it’s more graceful because it gives some variety but idk if it’s too graceful for me, I’ll prob ride it eventually
It maybe is too graceful to a fault.
2:10 it’s because of the front row seats popularity like all coasters that have a front row queue
Pretty much.
What do you prefer, the weaker looping coasters or the more intense looping coasters, Canobie Coaster?
Intense
I rode this for the first time today. Compared to the other B&Ms that I've ridden like Medusa and Kraken this one is by far the most shaky.
It was in the morning and on a half empty train so maybe that made it bad? But wow tit was vibrating through every element that was higher than 1.5 gs.
Also a slight headbang after the first valley, i was trying to let my head be free from the seat
I do have a low tolerance for this however and havent ridden a woodie yet lol.
Is the front the most shaky? That's what I tried
It's equally shaky in all rows. I just rode it and it's riding how it usually does today.
Yeah your thoughts and pretty much what I expected from the ride I always thought it was super cool how the way out was so unique but looking at POVs and off-ride footage I always start Hydro looked like a floorless coaster that ran like a wing coaster not super intense and kinda meandering through the course
It does have a lot of similarities to wing coasters with the layout.
I've always liked the JoJo roll on this ride and thought the layout was very unique. However, I've found it's developed a pretty bad rattle over the years. I think Talon runs a lot smoother than Hydra, despite being 4 years older, and is the superior coaster.
It does have a bit of a rattle.
What is the section of Hydra the Revenge did you like the most?
The start with the jojo roll and drop.
Unlike most B&M floorless coasters when the train starts slowly climbing the lift hill, on Hydra...
Hydra has the jojo roll before the lift.
The only parts of this coaster I enjoy are the Jojo roll and weird cobra roll
I love the jojo roll, but that cobra roll isn't very good.
Out of the 5 floorless coasters I've ridden this is the 2nd worst just coming above Firebird at Six Flags America. It's good but it's pretty shaky and the layout is diffrent but not that impressive.
The back seems to be the smoothest seat from comments I've read. I only ride there anyway.
My question is, why in the world did Dorney Park get a Floorless with Bizarro an hour down the interstate? If they wanted to go with B&M, they could have at least done a Dive or something. Cedar Fair was working with Gerstlauer back then too for Spinning Dragons, so why not a Eurofighter?
I have no issue with Dorney getting a floorless. I just wish the layout was a little stronger.
They also got Talon with Great Bear not too far away. I don't have an issue with either edition, but it is kinds weird that Dorney did nothing to separate their lineup from the other parks in the area.
@@Derangedlefty Don't forget Batman
I mean this was the mid 2000s. Those models weren't really around / in vogue back then. I think hydra more than differentiates itself from other floorless models.
This is a fine coaster.
Yes
Another B&M review - Raging Bull coming anytime soon?? 😃
In the next 1-2 months. I'm trying to get the Great America ones done before the park reopens.
@@CanobieCoaster sounds great!! 😁
the inversion before the lift hill
It's fantastic.
IS there a forceful coaster at Dorney Park?
Stinger and Laser were.
The drop is also sort of similar to Wildfire at Silver Dollar City
It is.
I wonder, has any B&M floorless been cloned?
Medusa to Scream
Scream/Bizarro
Dowh this one looked so cool 🥲
It's decently fun.
Dang this was a floorless I've always thought looked really good but I guess the ride experience isn't as great.
It has some good parts.
It's very different from standard floorless coasters, and that's why I love Hydra so much. If you can appreciate rides for what they are and not look down on them for what they aren't, Hydra is a good ride experience.
The Logo is is freaking epic, for cedar fair standards... the head looks like the seahorse from the movie named so, and even less drakonic, that the heads in the background, make it a drakonic seaserpent, that looks better than Leviathans cartoony logo, this one looks it's from the 60ties, IDC much about theming, But get the Logo atleast a better commisioned artist. there are many artists that will draw you something better foor just 20bucks that looks like the original logo but CORRECTED, as the Hydra from lerna was either a multiheaded: snake, (sea)serpent, serpentine seadragon, drakonic seaserpent, hydra, Hydra(gon), from all version of the myths, and depictions on fresnos and vases and walls from Crete to mainland greece, italy , macedonia etc etc, i wrote a small highschool paper on cryptozoology from myths.
Sorry, But SOMETIMES, the smoothness, lack of forces, unique track and layout, you have more time to just CHILLOUT and enjoy the coaster for WHAT IT IS and it is much like gently flying smaller general aviation plane or a smooth jet flight that wont exc3eed 2.5g' s but you simply enjoy the ride, the view, withouth the vibrations, excessive forces, you get to glide you get to fly, Ironic how the hydra can be very gentle, on the spiritual side of things.
Here in the netherlands we have untamed, one of the best RMC's actually i heard, i like forcefulness, i hate boring rides. But Hydra the revenge hold a special place in my heart for me as the gentle serpent it is and that's what intrigues me, americans have so much more B&M coasters and inthe netherlands they didn't exist until recently, the gerstlauer was aamazing btw, thought me how forceful rides are. But hey if you guys dont like the ride ship it to walabiholland or attractiepark hellendoorn theres only one vekoma old style small aparition of a coaster, a corscrewand thats it, give em that coaster. it fits the park the best and they need more coasters, add an b&m abd that park will expand like crazy and the younger or older people who go there will have a very very fun ride.
I just enjoy the coaster for what it is, and have more time to observe everything that is happening in and around me,enjoy it for the gently serpent that it is the hydra of Lerna wont bother anymore who' except when you try to slay him. then it get underrater, overhated. And they can UPGRADE THE COASTER, ADD a special extra smoothness permament greasing layer, and modify the exterior contact points of the wheels for more smootnees, accelerate chainlift/or cabe lift fastness/ or even an LSM Climb or tire track Climb, for extra speed, the you have the coaster you'd rate a 9
I am a dragonkin (otherkin dragon) it overlaps woith occultism and furry/scalie subculture. and the fact that Herakles was brought down and out came allong a beautiful offride and onride which is just a beautiful and graceful onride, it's so buttery smooth you just go easy on the restrains and hold on (dont do it but i said it anyway), and have you entire arms and legs, spread out as much as possible, it even easy to find north east west south, so you can draw pentagram or septagrams and do some basic magick, if you do the kabalic cross first before boarding and after.
>>>>> Interesting philosophy and cultural lesson and if you dare to enter my insanity or laugh the shit out of
I agree the logo is sick. I try to highlight both the pros and cons of each ride.
I love way too much about the ride
It's a unique floorless.
I don't know, to me, I was on it once, and I was not impressed at all! Too bad that Hercules could not be saved...
I wish RMC had been around when that ride was scrapped.
Honestly, it looks like one of the weakest B&Ms out there...
It kind of is
The weird elements are great, but the other parts are not so good.
I know it’s hard to believe, but some of the pullouts have good forces
B&M floorless are garbage. So lame.
They're usually solid.
cool. jojorool
Love that element.