I LOVE MY KUDISH PEOPLE FROM LORI AND KURDISTAN. YOU ARE BEST GOD BLES MY PEOPLE AND MY COUNTRY KURDISTAN . BIJIT KURD U KURDISTAN MERIN BO NYARET KURD U KURDISTANE.
@ye mard Tanha Bahdini, sorani, Zaza, lor, kelhor, kormanji,feli, baban, gorani, hewreman.....hemi em kurden BELE che b ken neyaret kurd u kurdistane tejinen geleken. BIJIT KURD U KURDISTAN MEREN BO NYARET KURD U KURDISTANE. ,
Lors are part of Kurdish people. Kurdish= Kurmanci sorani, lorani, gorani, hewrami, leki, feyli, kelhuri We are one. We are medes Kurdistan. Shia persian Want to asimilated Lor Kurds. Persian culture verry different. Stop persian asimilated. We are all Kurds ❤️☀️💚✌️
@@fosikchannel9479 اگر شما کرد های عزیز و بزرگوار که خیلی دوستتون داریم و فرهنگمان (لر و کرد) هم بسیار شبیه به همدیگست خودتان رو یکی از اقوام بزرگ آریایی میدانید خوبه بدانید لرستان قبل از مهاجرت آریایی ها به ایران به عنوان تمدن بزرگ کاسیت در همین سرزمین و همین نقطه بوده ایم ما از همان اول در اینجا بوده ایم برادر کرد عزیزم و از مشکلات امروز اقتصادی کشور که بگذریم که همه را به ستوه آورده همیشه یکدست‌ترین و متعصب ترین و غیرتی‌ترین قوم بر روی تمامیت عرضی ایران بوده‌ایم به اصطلاح ایرانی‌ترین ایرانی بوده‌ایم و هستیم و هرگز داعیه جدایی طلبی از ایران نداشتیم چون ما از اول قبل از آریایی‌ها که شما خودتان را قسمتی از آن میدانید در این سرزمین بوده‌ایم و شما که با دیگر اقوام با هم به این سرزمین آمده اید چرا خود را جدا از ایران میدانید؟! و از این هم بگذریم حالا با این اوصاف شما چطور ما را زیر مجموعه‌ایی از خودتان یعنی کرد میدانید ؟! آیا به خاطر ندانستن این مطالب تاریخی نیست . کرد را بسیار دوست دارم به خاطر بزرگواری و نجابت و اصالتش اما بدون هیچگونه تعصب قومیتی حقیقت این است که قدمت ما در این سرزمین بیش از شماست چند سال قبل هم طبق تحقیقات یک گروه باستان‌شناسی اروپایی از غاری در ۱۰ کیلومتری خرم‌آباد لرستان با شواهد و اشیایی که در غار کشف شد مشخص شد اولین انسان های هوشمند از لرستان به اروپا رفته‌اند حالا باز هم میخواهید از بزرگی و شکوه لر در تاریخ برایتان بگویم و شواهدی که ما انشعابی از هیچ قومیتی نیستیم ولی شاید اقوام دیگری انشعابی از ما باشند و بعضی دیگر از اقوام در محل سکونت جدیدشان تحت تاثیر فرهنگ همسایگان جدیدشان که از اول جایگاه ثابتی داشته اند قرار گرفته اند 😉😏 برادر عزیز و بزرگوارم این سخنان رو با احترام فراوانی که برای شما از نجیب‌ترین و نزدیک‌ترین اقوام ایرانی ((اقوام ایرانی)) به لرستان عرض کردم و قصد توهیین و پایین آوردن منزلت قوم بزرگ و با شکوه کرد را نداشتم
KURDİSH= KURMANCİ, SORANİ, GORANİ, LORANİ, HEWRAMİ, LEKİ, KELHURİ, FEYLİ WE ARE KURDİSH FAMİLY LOR ARE ASİMİLATED BY SHİA PERSİAN, LOR ARE KURDİSH, WE ARE ONE CULTURE AND MOUNTAİN MEDİAN KURDS ❤️🌹
Hossein Rahimi استاد رحمانپور اسطوره و افتخار همه ی لرها هستن . جايگاه و شان استاد خيلى بالاتر و والاتر از اين حرفهاست... بعدشم ایشون از ایل بزرگ عبدولی هستن . عبدولیها هم لر هستن نه لک .
This is the equivalent of slow dance in western countries. In the old days, men and women dances Sangin Semar. The old Singine Semar was a conservative dance with a lots of details. Thanks for posting.
If you go back to that time (2500 years ago) or more, Avesta, old-persian, rigveda, sanskrit all this was almoust same. Perhaps like the differences we hear between swedish, dannish and norgwegian. Before arabs, mongols, turks, greeks, huns and other people came to our Iran, we spoke iranic dialects. Now we speak so many iranic languages.
"I dont see any defferences between this culture and Sorani-Kurdish culture they are same 100%. God bless Lori-Kurds" Doreste! Dem wesh Iraj Rahmanpour Long live Kurdistan & Lorestan
My brother ,don't give up Your nation. Kurds are one of the great Arian nations. We had MED Empire, and now we struggle in rest of our land( Kurdistan) to freedom.We build in South of Kurdistan ( Kurdistan of Iraq)our first step to free Kurdistan. You are a part of our nation. You can't change the truth.
haha donem fama kho dores ni boyi zartusht de azarbayijan donya omaya.. ou kordeka ke kosh sheeta moa zartusht de kordestan ve donya oma haha... selamat bouy
KurdistanUnited, ohoy bisavad! Lori together with mazandarani, gilaki, talysh, Bastaki(bandari),bakhtiari, lari, komzari, Shirazi farsi etc are surviving dialects of indo-iranian language MIDDLE PERSIAN (PAHLAVI). Kurdish together with Zazaki and balochi etc could be surviving dialects of old-persian. But Pashto, Ossetic, yaqobi etc are eastern indo-iranian languages and based on Avesta.
1-i dont want to answer any unpolit& racist FARS(With my respect 4 all of that farses who belive in same rights 4 evry one)2-LORs are free to be persian becuse their languege is like farsi.thats up to themselve////but im KURDISH LAK &my langueige &my blood is KURDish so no one can make busines about us specially some unrespect peopel who has foolishly enemy with kurds
and old-persian is the root of all this iranic languages of western branch. IN modern days we have kurdish, lori, bastaki, talysh, gilani and persian as independent separated languges 4 their own. This languages are not dialects anymore. But during the time of achemenidians there was one root, one language, one mother of this languages I typed down, Old-persian. Avesta was the holy language of zoroastrians, an east-iranian language spoken by bactrians of eastern Iran.
U notice the structure of lori language that its not even naturally related to kurdish language. Even if we share some words with kurds does not make us kurds, even u kurds share some words with persians which not even include in lori. Etc u say "Bo" which means "For", persians say "Be/Bar". We lors say "Si",, and many other words. Typicall about dialects of old-persian from southern iranic branch is that we pronounce words likely, and many words r same. We say "Asemon", "jon",, "Baro/Baron".
Research more in order to learn boy;)Avesta belongs to the subgroup of eastern indo-iranian langiages together with Rigveda and other ancient languages in Bactria, SOgdiana (Afghanistan). Languages like pashtu, ossetian, yaqnoubi are dialects of Avesta (east-iranian). Kurdish, lori, balochi, persian belongs to western branch of indi-iranian languages. Kurdish, talysh, gilani, balochi etc (iranian languages, north-western). Persian, Lori,bakhtiari, bastaki, komzari (Iranian languages, south-west)
hey wdwg i appreciate you trying to take a logical approach to the relationship between the 2 languages... but i think that you have it wronge. for example one sentence in the song is: "dasekam beger benara sakhta, sara benara homari takhta" dasekam, benara aren't verbs, dasekam= my hand benara=hill and homar isn't "for all", homar= flat land "take my hand, going up a hill is hard but on top of the hill, there is a flat piece of land" is the eng translation
wdwq thanks for your consideration, i can see that kumanci and lori are very similar, but we can't elude the fact that all these languages and dialects have their roots in farsi, hewraz=homar=hamvar, min=me=man, bigre=beir=begir, etc. i also think that iran needs to be a freer country, but for all its inhabitants, not just kord, lor, etc. best bishes
thats wat im trying to say,anti-iran kurds are claiming that iranians are "ajam" and saying they are so pure; but kurds are "ajam" too according to the real definition
great video! instead of posting the idiotic stuff that only harm yourselves try to think of respecting each other. just think about it, you guys have a same origin. All this separation stuff are the enemies conspiracy. The only way for us to get anlong is to respect each other not by advocating the hate speech.
of course its not gonna be exactly the same as the farsi spoken today, but same roots. dastakam bgra(kordi)= desekam beger/beir(lori)= dastamra begir theres no escaping the similarities
Shave all the arabic, turkish words of persian en bring back those lost words we hade in Pahlavi and old-persian. If you do that, you will have a language like Lori,talysh,bastaki,bakhtiari etc. etc in lori they say "oo aboot" means "He become". In old-persian its "B'avati". you see? "Aboot = Avati" same in sanskri. But in sanskrit they say "Avathiy" Old-persian is almoust sanskrit, only different is the different dialects, pronouncation-systems.
dear ahantabarzin:i dont know who u are but iwana tell u im a iranian kurish LAK from noorabad(delfan)we dont want any one call us lor or any other nation& idont call lors kurd/so why u getting angry or swearing to kurds?what do u want to proof?
What have lori language to do with iranic languages from north-western branch? Lori is one ancient dialect of farsi-e-bastani. We(lors, persians) say "Dan" which stands for "know" in contrast to the kurdish (zan). U use "Zoor = Much", "Biji = Say", "Agir/Awor = Fire" this words and many others connecting the kurdish dialects to one kurdish mother. What the hell have lori to do with this? Both lori and persian "Dan = know", "Ziad = much", "Bogo/bego = say", "Azer/atash = Fire".
Si che? Moshqelet chia kaku? Vaghti ka tohin akoni mo ze dastet narahat aboom. Mo nagam ka mo loron fars hesem, faqat agam ka Kurd niyem. Hatta zavoni lori yak kam ba zavone farsiye asil naziktarra taa ba zuvanoni kurdi. Ze har lahja!!. Yo yak haqiqata. hama edonen ka lori bo farsi naziktera. Faqat lakki nazik nii. Chonka lakki yak zuvaniya ka Lor/kurdi ghattiya va si yo khater aboot goft ka Lakki 100% lori nii.
Fireofmedia, the persian language is so rich and big, spoken in Iran, Uzbekistan(Samarqand), Afghanistan, Tajikistan and parts of Pakistan and Central Asia. In Tajikistan and Afghanistan many say "Dastak" instead of dast, only in typicall irani persian they dont use "Dastak" that much, mostly in villages of Khorasan, Hormuzgan and Shiraz they say. U shut up, bring some facts next time;) We have many dialects
@KurdLorstani kirom de kose dayket, to ke lor neyi bisharaf. Aga to vaqan yak lori, hich vakht at-naveshta lor o kordestan. Si yo khater to yak vatanfroshi ke nome harchi lor kherab miki. Agar atawa si kho ya keshvar basazi boro Eraq ya torkiye..ejan de dile emo jaah-et niye. Emo ba eva niyazi man niye.. hala boro kir bokho koskash.
first of all, not all iranian rulers were rascist (perfect example koroush freed the jews); and + if you look at it, all civilizations have had some sort of rascism whether endorsed by the state or not; indeed (no offense), i know more rascist kurds right now than just iranians. there is also no historical evidence that shows ANY iranian gov. was rascist besides IR
what is the cultural difference between kurds and persians? wat is arian/indo-europian culture? kurdish clothes are similar to other iranian clothes... the way of life is similar...kurds don't look much different physically... and the language i still say is VERY similar, and if it wasn't, are you gonna base your whole argument that kurds are 100% than iranians on the language difference?
WE BULGARIANS,CHUVASHES AND PEOPLE OF SO CALLED''TATARSTAN''ARE IRANIAN IN OUR ORIGIN,NOT FUCKING TURKIC,OUR FOLKLORE IS SIMILAR,GREETINGS FROM BULGARIA
FireOfMedia why u gotta be disrespectful? if u have a case to argue, make it reasonable to you can actually persuade ppl. dast is original farsi (which is kordi); if u actually look at it linguistically, kurdi/lori is the original farsi. what they speek in other part of iran is kurdi/lori+arabi. it is a big mistake to seperate kurdish/lori culture from iran... do you see?
come on man dasakam isn't kurdi it comes from "dast" which is farsi for hand. any scientific/linguistic was you look at it, kurdish cannot be viewed as a completely independent language; it has its roots in the origical farsi (parsi) as with lori; its just that there has been no arabi mixed with kurdi, and every1 thinks its a seperate language
Kurds never Pronounce etc Aseman "Asemoon" like us lors and persians. This is the typicall culture of us people from south-western branch of iranic language that we are playing with the vocals. We speak very softly similiar to the pronounce system like french people. Notice how french people say "Iran" or "tehran" or "Isfahan",, they say like us lors/persians "Iron" "Tehron" "Isfohon". Kurds language is harsh and u use troat to much like arabs, etc i know how u say hawar LOL. or Haiwan;)
We use Zendegi and not Hayat. Hayat means Garden in persian, even kurds say hayat sometimes. But even if Hayat was wrong, rest of it was right?;). Sbai shaw, LOOOL. Say FARDAA, more aryan;) Not Sabah/Sbai. LOOOL Dige zerr nazan;) LOL
there u go then. first of all there is no language as persian its farsi. second of all u just proved that farsi, lori, kurdi all have the same root. then how are they totally independent from eachother? by speaking my mother langueage of lori, i understand farsi 100%, and a little kurdi(not much, because i never needed to). i say we celebrate our similarities and common roots rather than become enemies because of minor difference, wat u think?
im sorry to be giving you the news that kurdi indeed is farsi. 2000 yrs ago the language that hakhamaneshin spoke was probably just like lori/kurdi. ppl can go around making all this bs kurdish crap, but kurdish language/culture is inseperable from that of iran. this is the logical and scientific approach. and about dialects, all dialects of kurdi are dialects of IRANIAN LANGUAGE.
It is true that Kurds are part of a group of Iranian people BUT Iran is not. It has been the sole owner of the Persians who confiscated everything, claiming all things to be of Persian origins and if it was not they would say it's Iranians. That's why most Kurds do not feel comfortable with this We Are All Iranian slogan thing. Do you like an Iran ruled by Kurds and official language is Kurdish, which is by far more purer than Persian / Arabic language you speaking.
To kurd: please stop coming on Lor videos and swear at Persians and call Lors Kurdish. It is embrassing to read all these B/S posted by these nationalistic Kurds on EVERY SINGLE LUR VIDEO.
@Kurdishazadi There are so many local persian languages in Iran which had kept its original form, with almoust no arabic. At least we dont speak from our throats like you kurds n arabs does ;-). Second of all: Lors/bakhtiaris are loyal to Iran as one of the oldest tribes of Iran. We r not separists like you, thats why u dont have nothing incomment with us your morron.
goddamit stop making shit up, every1 zartosht was not born in azarbaijan, he was not born in kurdestan, he was born in central asia, most likely around uzbekistan/turkamanistan. all these countries have iranian culture, some a bit different, but it is all really "greater" iran, as iran's cultural influence goes well beyond its current borders.
@bawegur2714 Learn how to spell and use correct grammar. Lors are not kurds n never will be, as a matter of fact even lori language shares big similarities with old-persian n middle-persian. aa sign of an old parsi language not kurdish! We never speak with our throats like kurds n arabs either, and we are loyal to Iran. Kurdistan is a new fabricated nation with no written pre-historic scourses.
we didn't steal shit.. c'mon lets see ur history, what civilization? and + im happy to be a human, i don't need to be racist to fell good about myself. plz stop talking abour aryan blood u have none; there is a trace left of it in lors (green eyes and light hair), but kurds all have dark skin and BLACK hair. buts its not important, learn to be a person.
Sikismekataturk stop going around and B/S. I'm an Iranian lur and we are NOT kurds. As much as KUrds are close to Persians they are close to Lurs. Stop wasting your time spreading B/S.
Get facts before u speak, u think that u are educated? U are a fool LOL. Get some linguistic and historical facts before u give title to us lors as kurds. All people who use the word like "Zan" speak a language from north western branch of iranic languages like balochi, kurdish, zazaki etc. All people who use "Dan" speak languages from old persian (south western branch). This was only a typicall example. Even we lors pronounce words same like many dialects from south-western branch of iranic lng
Instead of swearing give evidence to suggest that Lors are Persians and not Kords or Lors are just a different race from Kords. Tell us about their language how close is it to Persian or close to Kurdish. Do not tell us about words, because of Lori vocabularies are exactly Kurdish and the verb conjugation is Kurdish. If you have any supporting evidence splash it out here and stop this thing about Iranians BECAUSE Iran has only benefited the Persians and no one else. Period.
persianos u proofed u r realy unaducated person its shame on any polite person to swearing to a comunity or a natione/its not ur busines to talk between lors & kurds we are 2 nations with one origin/and we leaving in peace
I LOVE MY KUDISH PEOPLE
FROM LORI AND KURDISTAN.
YOU ARE BEST
GOD BLES MY PEOPLE AND MY COUNTRY KURDISTAN .
BIJIT KURD U KURDISTAN
MERIN BO NYARET KURD U KURDISTANE.
@ye mard Tanha Bahdini, sorani, Zaza, lor, kelhor, kormanji,feli, baban, gorani, hewreman.....hemi em kurden
BELE che b ken neyaret kurd u kurdistane tejinen geleken.
BIJIT KURD U KURDISTAN
MEREN BO NYARET KURD U KURDISTANE.
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It's a great song, awesome. Lori is very beautiful kurdish dialect. We lors are proud kurds, Lorstan=Kurdistan. Long live kurds and Kurdistan
we Lurs are proud Iranian and brothers of Kurds. Long live Iran and all it's ethnicities.
Lors are part of Kurdish people.
Kurdish= Kurmanci sorani, lorani, gorani, hewrami, leki, feyli, kelhuri We are one. We are medes Kurdistan. Shia persian Want to asimilated Lor Kurds. Persian culture verry different.
Stop persian asimilated.
We are all Kurds ❤️☀️💚✌️
@@fosikchannel9479 اگر شما کرد های عزیز و بزرگوار که خیلی دوستتون داریم و فرهنگمان (لر و کرد) هم بسیار شبیه به همدیگست خودتان رو یکی از اقوام بزرگ آریایی میدانید خوبه بدانید لرستان قبل از مهاجرت آریایی ها به ایران به عنوان تمدن بزرگ کاسیت در همین سرزمین و همین نقطه بوده ایم ما از همان اول در اینجا بوده ایم برادر کرد عزیزم و از مشکلات امروز اقتصادی کشور که بگذریم که همه را به ستوه آورده همیشه یکدست‌ترین و متعصب ترین و غیرتی‌ترین قوم بر روی تمامیت عرضی ایران بوده‌ایم
به اصطلاح ایرانی‌ترین ایرانی بوده‌ایم و هستیم و هرگز داعیه جدایی طلبی از ایران نداشتیم چون ما از اول قبل از آریایی‌ها که شما خودتان را قسمتی از آن میدانید در این سرزمین بوده‌ایم و شما که با دیگر اقوام با هم به این سرزمین آمده اید چرا خود را جدا از ایران میدانید؟! و از این هم بگذریم حالا با این اوصاف شما چطور ما را زیر مجموعه‌ایی از خودتان یعنی کرد میدانید ؟! آیا به خاطر ندانستن این مطالب تاریخی نیست . کرد را بسیار دوست دارم به خاطر بزرگواری و نجابت و اصالتش اما بدون هیچگونه تعصب قومیتی حقیقت این است که قدمت ما در این سرزمین بیش از شماست چند سال قبل هم طبق تحقیقات یک گروه باستان‌شناسی اروپایی از غاری در ۱۰ کیلومتری خرم‌آباد لرستان با شواهد و اشیایی که در غار کشف شد مشخص شد اولین انسان های هوشمند از لرستان به اروپا رفته‌اند حالا باز هم میخواهید از بزرگی و شکوه لر در تاریخ برایتان بگویم و شواهدی که ما انشعابی از هیچ قومیتی نیستیم ولی شاید اقوام دیگری انشعابی از ما باشند و بعضی دیگر از اقوام در محل سکونت جدیدشان تحت تاثیر فرهنگ همسایگان جدیدشان که از اول جایگاه ثابتی داشته اند قرار گرفته اند 😉😏 برادر عزیز و بزرگوارم این سخنان رو با احترام فراوانی که برای شما از نجیب‌ترین و نزدیک‌ترین اقوام ایرانی ((اقوام ایرانی)) به لرستان عرض کردم و قصد توهیین و پایین آوردن منزلت قوم بزرگ و با شکوه کرد را نداشتم
@@milad5458 در درجه اول با عشق و احترام. با تشکر از شما برای تعریف شما. آیا شما لور هستید؟ داداش من از شمال کردستان هستم من فارسی بلد نیستم
@@fosikchannel9479 بله دوست عزیزم بنده لر خرم آباد هستم متاسفانه نمیتونم پیام قبلیم رو درست و صحیح به انگلیسی برگردانم با گوگل ترانسلیت برای شما
لر یعنی با فرهنگ، مهماننواز و بی تکبر ، من لرم و عاشق ایران
Salam to all Lor Kurds. From north Kurdistan ( Anatolia)
We are one ❤️☀️💚🌹😊
Happy NowRooz!
Wish all Iranians health, happiness, and success in the New Iranian Year!
God bless IRAN and Iranians!
I love Iranian music north.south.East.West.thanks for the oll them
ای جان ❤️🌹❤️🌹
baradareh man kor lor👋
Lorestan ❤
KURDİSH= KURMANCİ, SORANİ, GORANİ, LORANİ, HEWRAMİ, LEKİ, KELHURİ, FEYLİ WE ARE KURDİSH FAMİLY
LOR ARE ASİMİLATED BY SHİA PERSİAN, LOR ARE KURDİSH, WE ARE ONE CULTURE AND MOUNTAİN MEDİAN KURDS ❤️🌹
Asheghe Loro Lorestanam
دستم را بگیر ،سر بالای تنده بعد از سربالای سرازیریه
Vali ajab ahangyeh..
I Love This Song.
Wow, I love this video, hope to see those days again.
استاد ایرج رحمانپور مایه افتخار قوم لک است.
Hossein Rahimi
استاد رحمانپور اسطوره و افتخار همه ی لرها هستن . جايگاه و شان استاد خيلى بالاتر و والاتر از اين حرفهاست... بعدشم ایشون از ایل بزرگ عبدولی هستن . عبدولیها هم لر هستن نه لک .
این آهنگ کاملا لری هست
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This is the equivalent of slow dance in western countries. In the old days, men and women dances Sangin Semar. The old Singine Semar was a conservative dance with a lots of details. Thanks for posting.
Khodaa Iran ro az Tafraghe, ekhtelaaf , Dorough va Jang Hefz kone.
Gosh, I just love this video.
سلام
Wey mala te ava, çiqas ji dil dibêjî. Bijî Loristan
If you go back to that time (2500 years ago) or more, Avesta, old-persian, rigveda, sanskrit all this was almoust same. Perhaps like the differences we hear between swedish, dannish and norgwegian. Before arabs, mongols, turks, greeks, huns and other people came to our Iran, we spoke iranic dialects. Now we speak so many iranic languages.
Long live all Iranians/Persians. Lurs speak a Persian dialect derived from Middle-Persian Pahlavi (Over 75% of their language).
"I dont see any defferences between this culture and Sorani-Kurdish culture they are same 100%. God bless Lori-Kurds"
Doreste!
Dem wesh Iraj Rahmanpour
Long live Kurdistan & Lorestan
Amsal Sal vahdat bein hamay aghvam Iran thar moghabel fisherman ast man nokar hamey Iranian dackel VA Karej as keshvarm hastam
nice music . beji KURDISTAN fuci iran.
My brother ,don't give up Your nation. Kurds are one of the great Arian nations. We had MED Empire, and now we struggle in rest of our land( Kurdistan) to freedom.We build in South of Kurdistan ( Kurdistan of Iraq)our first step to free Kurdistan. You are a part of our nation. You can't change the truth.
zende bad harchi lor va lak
thanks for the comments Qoldor
ur right payande iran...
haha donem
fama kho dores ni boyi zartusht de azarbayijan donya omaya.. ou kordeka ke kosh sheeta moa zartusht de kordestan ve donya oma haha... selamat bouy
beji Lorestani Kurd!
KurdistanUnited, ohoy bisavad! Lori together with mazandarani, gilaki, talysh, Bastaki(bandari),bakhtiari, lari, komzari, Shirazi farsi etc are surviving dialects of indo-iranian language MIDDLE PERSIAN (PAHLAVI). Kurdish together with Zazaki and balochi etc could be surviving dialects of old-persian. But Pashto, Ossetic, yaqobi etc are eastern indo-iranian languages and based on Avesta.
1-i dont want to answer any unpolit& racist FARS(With my respect 4 all of that farses who belive in same rights 4 evry one)2-LORs are free to be persian becuse their languege is like farsi.thats up to themselve////but im KURDISH LAK &my langueige &my blood is KURDish so no one can make busines about us specially some unrespect peopel who has foolishly enemy with kurds
and old-persian is the root of all this iranic languages of western branch. IN modern days we have kurdish, lori, bastaki, talysh, gilani and persian as independent separated languges 4 their own. This languages are not dialects anymore. But during the time of achemenidians there was one root, one language, one mother of this languages I typed down, Old-persian. Avesta was the holy language of zoroastrians, an east-iranian language spoken by bactrians of eastern Iran.
I love lurs!!
// Greetings from FARS "PERSIAN"
Lors are Kurdish not persian
U notice the structure of lori language that its not even naturally related to kurdish language. Even if we share some words with kurds does not make us kurds, even u kurds share some words with persians which not even include in lori. Etc u say "Bo" which means "For", persians say "Be/Bar". We lors say "Si",, and many other words. Typicall about dialects of old-persian from southern iranic branch is that we pronounce words likely, and many words r same. We say "Asemon", "jon",, "Baro/Baron".
Research more in order to learn boy;)Avesta belongs to the subgroup of eastern indo-iranian langiages together with Rigveda and other ancient languages in Bactria, SOgdiana (Afghanistan). Languages like pashtu, ossetian, yaqnoubi are dialects of Avesta (east-iranian). Kurdish, lori, balochi, persian belongs to western branch of indi-iranian languages. Kurdish, talysh, gilani, balochi etc (iranian languages, north-western). Persian, Lori,bakhtiari, bastaki, komzari (Iranian languages, south-west)
hey wdwg
i appreciate you trying to take a logical approach to the relationship between the 2 languages... but i think that you have it wronge. for example one sentence in the song is: "dasekam beger benara sakhta, sara benara homari takhta"
dasekam, benara aren't verbs,
dasekam= my hand benara=hill
and homar isn't "for all", homar= flat land
"take my hand, going up a hill is hard
but on top of the hill, there is a flat piece of land" is the eng translation
wdwq
thanks for your consideration, i can see that kumanci and lori are very similar, but we can't elude the fact that all these languages and dialects have their roots in farsi, hewraz=homar=hamvar, min=me=man, bigre=beir=begir, etc.
i also think that iran needs to be a freer country, but for all its inhabitants, not just kord, lor, etc.
best bishes
دستم را بگیر یک دست صدا نداره...
thats wat im trying to say,anti-iran kurds are claiming that iranians are "ajam" and saying they are so pure; but kurds are "ajam" too according to the real definition
I agree with bodah20
wow
diya ve ya chi nemoa got
first kurdish then human eh?
khodam ke got kurda
harche badbakhti hi de donya de ayemoni chi yenan
leva...
great video! instead of posting the idiotic stuff that only harm yourselves try to think of respecting each other. just think about it, you guys have a same origin. All this separation stuff are the enemies conspiracy. The only way for us to get anlong is to respect each other not by advocating the hate speech.
of course its not gonna be exactly the same as the farsi spoken today, but same roots. dastakam bgra(kordi)= desekam beger/beir(lori)= dastamra begir
theres no escaping the similarities
Shave all the arabic, turkish words of persian en bring back those lost words we hade in Pahlavi and old-persian. If you do that, you will have a language like Lori,talysh,bastaki,bakhtiari etc. etc in lori they say "oo aboot" means "He become". In old-persian its "B'avati". you see? "Aboot = Avati" same in sanskri. But in sanskrit they say "Avathiy" Old-persian is almoust sanskrit, only different is the different dialects, pronouncation-systems.
LOL
finally some1 with some sense
dear ahantabarzin:i dont know who u are but iwana tell u im a iranian kurish LAK from noorabad(delfan)we dont want any one call us lor or any other nation& idont call lors kurd/so why u getting angry or swearing to kurds?what do u want to proof?
What have lori language to do with iranic languages from north-western branch? Lori is one ancient dialect of farsi-e-bastani. We(lors, persians) say "Dan" which stands for "know" in contrast to the kurdish (zan). U use "Zoor = Much", "Biji = Say", "Agir/Awor = Fire" this words and many others connecting the kurdish dialects to one kurdish mother. What the hell have lori to do with this? Both lori and persian "Dan = know", "Ziad = much", "Bogo/bego = say", "Azer/atash = Fire".
You mean BOSS.
BASS is a fish.
Who do you rule? :)
I agree, anyone who wants to leave Iran should go and never come back.
Si che? Moshqelet chia kaku? Vaghti ka tohin akoni mo ze dastet narahat aboom. Mo nagam ka mo loron fars hesem, faqat agam ka Kurd niyem. Hatta zavoni lori yak kam ba zavone farsiye asil naziktarra taa ba zuvanoni kurdi. Ze har lahja!!. Yo yak haqiqata. hama edonen ka lori bo farsi naziktera. Faqat lakki nazik nii. Chonka lakki yak zuvaniya ka Lor/kurdi ghattiya va si yo khater aboot goft ka Lakki 100% lori nii.
Fireofmedia, the persian language is so rich and big, spoken in Iran, Uzbekistan(Samarqand), Afghanistan, Tajikistan and parts of Pakistan and Central Asia. In Tajikistan and Afghanistan many say "Dastak" instead of dast, only in typicall irani persian they dont use "Dastak" that much, mostly in villages of Khorasan, Hormuzgan and Shiraz they say. U shut up, bring some facts next time;) We have many dialects
@KurdLorstani kirom de kose dayket, to ke lor neyi bisharaf. Aga to vaqan yak lori, hich vakht at-naveshta lor o kordestan. Si yo khater to yak vatanfroshi ke nome harchi lor kherab miki. Agar atawa si kho ya keshvar basazi boro Eraq ya torkiye..ejan de dile emo jaah-et niye. Emo ba eva niyazi man niye.. hala boro kir bokho koskash.
first of all, not all iranian rulers were rascist (perfect example koroush freed the jews); and + if you look at it, all civilizations have had some sort of rascism whether endorsed by the state or not; indeed (no offense), i know more rascist kurds right now than just iranians. there is also no historical evidence that shows ANY iranian gov. was rascist besides IR
what is the cultural difference between kurds and persians? wat is arian/indo-europian culture? kurdish clothes are similar to other iranian clothes... the way of life is similar...kurds don't look much different physically... and the language i still say is VERY similar, and if it wasn't, are you gonna base your whole argument that kurds are 100% than iranians on the language difference?
WE BULGARIANS,CHUVASHES AND PEOPLE OF SO CALLED''TATARSTAN''ARE IRANIAN IN OUR ORIGIN,NOT FUCKING TURKIC,OUR FOLKLORE IS SIMILAR,GREETINGS FROM BULGARIA
lol lors have no traditional dance/clothes?
FireOfMedia
why u gotta be disrespectful? if u have a case to argue, make it reasonable to you can actually persuade ppl. dast is original farsi (which is kordi); if u actually look at it linguistically, kurdi/lori is the original farsi. what they speek in other part of iran is kurdi/lori+arabi. it is a big mistake to seperate kurdish/lori culture from iran... do you see?
come on man dasakam isn't kurdi
it comes from "dast" which is farsi for hand.
any scientific/linguistic was you look at it, kurdish cannot be viewed as a completely independent language; it has its roots in the origical farsi (parsi) as with lori; its just that there has been no arabi mixed with kurdi, and every1 thinks its a seperate language
Kurds never Pronounce etc Aseman "Asemoon" like us lors and persians. This is the typicall culture of us people from south-western branch of iranic language that we are playing with the vocals. We speak very softly similiar to the pronounce system like french people. Notice how french people say "Iran" or "tehran" or "Isfahan",, they say like us lors/persians "Iron" "Tehron" "Isfohon". Kurds language is harsh and u use troat to much like arabs, etc i know how u say hawar LOL. or Haiwan;)
We use Zendegi and not Hayat. Hayat means Garden in persian, even kurds say hayat sometimes. But even if Hayat was wrong, rest of it was right?;). Sbai shaw, LOOOL. Say FARDAA, more aryan;) Not Sabah/Sbai. LOOOL
Dige zerr nazan;) LOL
there u go then. first of all there is no language as persian its farsi. second of all u just proved that farsi, lori, kurdi all have the same root. then how are they totally independent from eachother? by speaking my mother langueage of lori, i understand farsi 100%, and a little kurdi(not much, because i never needed to). i say we celebrate our similarities and common roots rather than become enemies because of minor difference, wat u think?
the more u say "ajam", the more u show that u are arab. plz stop saying that its not a kurdi word at all.
im sorry to be giving you the news that kurdi indeed is farsi. 2000 yrs ago the language that hakhamaneshin spoke was probably just like lori/kurdi. ppl can go around making all this bs kurdish crap, but kurdish language/culture is inseperable from that of iran. this is the logical and scientific approach. and about dialects, all dialects of kurdi are dialects of IRANIAN LANGUAGE.
It is true that Kurds are part of a group of Iranian people BUT Iran is not. It has been the sole owner of the Persians who confiscated everything, claiming all things to be of Persian origins and if it was not they would say it's Iranians. That's why most Kurds do not feel comfortable with this We Are All Iranian slogan thing. Do you like an Iran ruled by Kurds and official language is Kurdish, which is by far more purer than Persian / Arabic language you speaking.
To kurd:
please stop coming on Lor videos and swear at Persians and call Lors Kurdish. It is embrassing to read all these B/S posted by these nationalistic Kurds on EVERY SINGLE LUR VIDEO.
@Kurdishazadi There are so many local persian languages in Iran which had kept its original form, with almoust no arabic. At least we dont speak from our throats like you kurds n arabs does ;-). Second of all: Lors/bakhtiaris are loyal to Iran as one of the oldest tribes of Iran. We r not separists like you, thats why u dont have nothing incomment with us your morron.
goddamit stop making shit up, every1
zartosht was not born in azarbaijan, he was not born in kurdestan, he was born in central asia, most likely around uzbekistan/turkamanistan. all these countries have iranian culture, some a bit different, but it is all really "greater" iran, as iran's cultural influence goes well beyond its current borders.
No, lors are not kurds. Sorry buddy, but you are barking up the wrong tree;)
@bawegur2714 Learn how to spell and use correct grammar. Lors are not kurds n never will be, as a matter of fact even lori language shares big similarities with old-persian n middle-persian. aa sign of an old parsi language not kurdish! We never speak with our throats like kurds n arabs either, and we are loyal to Iran. Kurdistan is a new fabricated nation with no written pre-historic scourses.
we didn't steal shit.. c'mon lets see ur history, what civilization? and + im happy to be a human, i don't need to be racist to fell good about myself. plz stop talking abour aryan blood u have none; there is a trace left of it in lors (green eyes and light hair), but kurds all have dark skin and BLACK hair. buts its not important, learn to be a person.
Sikismekataturk stop going around and B/S. I'm an Iranian lur and we are NOT kurds. As much as KUrds are close to Persians they are close to Lurs. Stop wasting your time spreading B/S.
Get facts before u speak, u think that u are educated? U are a fool LOL. Get some linguistic and historical facts before u give title to us lors as kurds. All people who use the word like "Zan" speak a language from north western branch of iranic languages like balochi, kurdish, zazaki etc. All people who use "Dan" speak languages from old persian (south western branch). This was only a typicall example. Even we lors pronounce words same like many dialects from south-western branch of iranic lng
این ترانه لکی است ونه لری.
BSSS
u don't know anything
اصلاخوب نیست هیچی اجرانمیشه
Instead of swearing give evidence to suggest that Lors are Persians and not Kords or Lors are just a different race from Kords. Tell us about their language how close is it to Persian or close to Kurdish. Do not tell us about words, because of Lori vocabularies are exactly Kurdish and the verb conjugation is Kurdish. If you have any supporting evidence splash it out here and stop this thing about Iranians BECAUSE Iran has only benefited the Persians and no one else. Period.
persianos u proofed u r realy unaducated person its shame on any polite person to swearing to a comunity or a natione/its not ur busines to talk between lors & kurds we are 2 nations with one origin/and we leaving in peace