Police Helicopter Gets Too Close to POTUS in MARINE ONE [ATC audio]

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  • @eazymoneyracing
    @eazymoneyracing 10 місяців тому +1109

    Guess they got a Presidential pardon without even getting arrested 🤷‍♂️

    • @tritontransport
      @tritontransport 9 місяців тому +22

      Yep pretty ridiculous

    • @bradmacoz
      @bradmacoz 9 місяців тому +31

      The Police chopper should have priority! its only a matter of minutes of delay…

    • @tritontransport
      @tritontransport 9 місяців тому +50

      @@bradmacoz yep unless president is being whisked away from some such event like 9/11 but he was just heading on vacation to his Wilmington deleware estate and that could’ve waited even hours if necessary because the necessity level of his flight was 0

    • @joek0617
      @joek0617 9 місяців тому +20

      ​@@tritontransportthe thing is. He is possibly the most important person in the country. For the sake of his security, they minimize his time at lower altitude

    • @firefighterphi149
      @firefighterphi149 9 місяців тому +26

      ​@@joek0617 cool, keep his ass on the ground. It's not like he doesn't have all of the modern conveniences anyone could want in that house

  • @ralphholiman7401
    @ralphholiman7401 6 місяців тому +185

    I was in a government helicopter flying from Mississippi to New Orleans as a passenger in the front seat, with a head set, after Katrina, when there was a call from the ATC that Marine One would be on our flight path, going the opposite direction, and to maintain our course, and give him a five hundred yard distance as we passed. The pilot looked at me and said, "That's something you will never hear again in your entire life." It turned out, that when Bush was told that him flying around in Marine One was going to completely shut down all helicopter rescue operations, he ordered them to come up with relaxed flight rules, and they came up with that once in al lifetime, directive for flying near Marine One.

    • @GulfSoftwash
      @GulfSoftwash 6 місяців тому +7

      We saw him flying over Biloxi escorted by two blackhawks while we were out fishing. Wild stuff.

    • @GregKrsak
      @GregKrsak 5 місяців тому +1

      @@GulfSoftwash Saw him down in San Diego, coming ashore from a carrier... Marine One and two decoy helos, which traded positions at random.

    • @robertstewart1223
      @robertstewart1223 5 місяців тому +8

      Excellent story and I completely believe it. If you were the President, and were told people might not be rescued because you were doing an over flight of the area...Would you say too bad? Well... I know of one that might have but she never made it to office. ;)

    • @CountryAndProud
      @CountryAndProud 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@robertstewart1223she'd have ordered all rescue operations to stop until she was gone.

    • @OzSpud72
      @OzSpud72 4 місяці тому

      @@CountryAndProud who are you referring too?

  • @malahammer
    @malahammer 10 місяців тому +459

    Best visuals! I can only guess how long it takes you. Well done.

    • @Dan-yk6sy
      @Dan-yk6sy 9 місяців тому +2

      agreed

    • @Travisrogers87
      @Travisrogers87 7 місяців тому +1

      I watch a lot of these channels and I was pleasantly surprised at all the activity happening and clarity of these visuals. Agreed, fantastic work

  • @ronmorgan1906
    @ronmorgan1906 9 місяців тому +272

    The thing is, DC Metro Police have a desk in the NCRCC alongside the USSS and every other agency in the NCR. They can literally walk across the ops floor and deconflict in real time. It really shouldn't have been an issue as DV movements happen regularly along side federal, state, local, and DoD aviation operations in the SFRA/FRZ.

    • @AirTrafficVisualised
      @AirTrafficVisualised  9 місяців тому +42

      I spent so long trying to find what "NTRCC" stood for. Thank you for demystifying that.

    • @Hide.the.Salami
      @Hide.the.Salami 9 місяців тому +12

      Does PGPD have one? Guardian is theirs I believe.

    • @ronmorgan1906
      @ronmorgan1906 9 місяців тому +6

      Yeah, it was incorrect. The National Capitol Region Coordination Center is in Herndon. Every operator in the NCR is there. I am sure PGPD is there too.

    • @johnfriend862
      @johnfriend862 9 місяців тому +42

      I promise if USSS needed Guardian to assist they'd have ZERO issues with him flying near a "VIP" flight.
      Letting criminals go seems to be all politicians are good for these days anyway.

    • @mmcclosk
      @mmcclosk 9 місяців тому +27

      Guardian is a Prince George's County Police air asset, not DC Metro, whose air asset is Falcon. There is no representative from PGPD in NCRCC to "deconflict" as you say. Short of a medevac, the USSS does not care what you are doing if you are going to be within their bubble of comfort.

  • @moroboshidan7960
    @moroboshidan7960 10 місяців тому +454

    No suspects were harmed in the making of this film.

    • @Meisha-san
      @Meisha-san 10 місяців тому +5

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @ThatKyFam
      @ThatKyFam 10 місяців тому

      Biden paving the way for criminals to escape once again.

    • @scdrescher1
      @scdrescher1 10 місяців тому +16

      Apparently none were caught either….par for the course with this administration. Great video though! Thanks for posting.

    • @miked5539
      @miked5539 9 місяців тому +12

      Part of Biden's overall policing strategy, let the suspects go to vote another day.

  • @oldmandrake
    @oldmandrake 9 місяців тому +172

    And I just look up and say, "Cool, a helicopter!" There is so, so much more going on, and critical that conflicts are avoided. Thanks again!

  • @jsonclam
    @jsonclam 10 місяців тому +71

    Great production! And the explanation beforehand makes it easier to understand. 👍🏻

  • @vovodvoevod9622
    @vovodvoevod9622 9 місяців тому +16

    10% for the big guy!

  • @Sebastopolmark
    @Sebastopolmark 10 місяців тому +13

    GREAT editing, thanks for the time invested in this one! !! !!!

  • @user-ox2xi6kk8o
    @user-ox2xi6kk8o 9 місяців тому +58

    In Los Angeles, a POTUS visit makes a worse an already logistical nightmare of everyone's day. I usually cancel or call in sick if working anywhere near the area. Its not worth the extra 8 hrs of commute slower than walking pace.

    • @delta250a
      @delta250a 9 місяців тому +22

      We had Potus over here in the UK once, unfortunately it was the orange traitor. The motorcade was crazy for him. Met it while going round a roundabout 😂 He got a nice middle finger!

    • @user-ik4br3nk2w
      @user-ik4br3nk2w 8 місяців тому

      makes a worse an already logistical nightmare

    • @YukariAkiyama
      @YukariAkiyama 8 місяців тому

      Im so glad he doesnt know san diego exists. Never had a POTUS visit

    • @OtterVal
      @OtterVal 7 місяців тому +1

      I was 30 minutes late to my exam in downtown detroit because Biden's visit for the auto show closed down EVERY overpass but one.

    • @LarryL3g3nd
      @LarryL3g3nd 5 місяців тому +4

      @@delta250aUr a UK citizen calling him the “orange traitor” something isnt adding up…

  • @rodneyhooverCFI
    @rodneyhooverCFI 10 місяців тому +130

    Funny to me how some things matter a lot in a situation, then with with a slightly different situation it doesn’t matter at all.
    I fly in the area that the top right corner of the area shown all the time. I’m just a civilian, instructing students in light planes. Been on the same frequency as one of the presidential transport planes, so I know it was using the AF1 calling, so president was on board. They crossed directly over me with 1,000’ vertical separation, just the same as any two aircraft do all the time.
    Yet here, a law enforcement aircraft on an actual mission couldn’t get within several miles of VM1. Makes a whole lot of sense, doesn’t it?

    • @peterk2455
      @peterk2455 9 місяців тому +21

      Shows a mindset of fear doesn't it?

    • @rodneyhooverCFI
      @rodneyhooverCFI 9 місяців тому +1

      @@peterk2455 Yup!

    • @Ryan-mq2mi
      @Ryan-mq2mi 9 місяців тому +34

      Hey, the clown had to get to Delaware for some important business!

    • @PowderMill
      @PowderMill 9 місяців тому

      Biden likely had on board: Hunter with pounds of crack cocaine, Asian children for “sniffing purposes”, cash and top secret documents destined for the CCP.

    • @kennethloki7011
      @kennethloki7011 6 місяців тому

      ​@Ryan-mq2mi marines make those decisions, not whomever the president on board may be at that time. Been that way for decades. Don't like it? Bring it up with the joint chiefs.

  • @WILD__THINGS
    @WILD__THINGS 18 днів тому

    First video I've watched of yours and by far this is the best production quality I've ever seen on an ATC channel!

  • @sidavis
    @sidavis 9 місяців тому +59

    by protocol they were "Clearing the Airspace" in one Three - Anticipating MARINE ONES flight path down the River through zone three .. meaning that the Helos potentially could have been MUCH closer together in a few minutes ... and in their defense ... police helicopter pursuits are VERY Dynamic and goe directions dictated by the Robbers. They also REQUIRE the Guardian Crew to be laser focused on the robbery pursuit down below..... They don't want Marine ONE to be anywhere near where a police helicopter might have to maneuver rapidly in any direction. It just wasn't safe ... and it was the right call !! Yes I am a military Pilot and Law Enforcement. Guardian didn't like the answer but the also knew it was the right call. PS: Helicopter Support is OPTIONAL and the vast majority of PURSUITS both Foot and Car happen without the luxury of an air unit. Just the facts.

    • @afwaller
      @afwaller 7 місяців тому +5

      Military is more important than police. Fairly simple.

    • @CustosLibertas
      @CustosLibertas 7 місяців тому +1

      So public safety air ops shouldn’t be around any GA air traffic either. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

  • @Penguinsix
    @Penguinsix 10 місяців тому +26

    While HMX-1 is based at JBAB. it picks the President up on the White House South Lawn. He doesn't go to the base to get on the helicopter.

    • @MikeDCWeld
      @MikeDCWeld 9 місяців тому

      Sure, but that doesn't mean he has to travel to the South Lawn to from the base to the airport.

    • @macsdaddy3383
      @macsdaddy3383 8 місяців тому +2

      That's exactly what I was thinking. The HMX-1 hangars are along the river at Bolling - Anacostia, down near the USN Labs and WHCA. And POTUS was supposedly traveling to (as Marine 1 was headed to) ILG. Meaning one would assume (I know ) Marine 1 was going from its hangar to the WH, picking up pax, and then then heading to ILG. I find it hard understand why POTUS would even be aboard the a/c at that point in the flight. Which then makes me wonder why that a/c was using the Marine1 call sign at that point in its trip.

    • @CustosLibertas
      @CustosLibertas 7 місяців тому +2

      Callsign Marine One is only used when POTUS is on board

    • @taoliu3949
      @taoliu3949 6 місяців тому

      ​@@macsdaddy3383 He could be actually at JBAB. He visits the base from time to time.

    • @dmacarthur5356
      @dmacarthur5356 6 місяців тому

      Agreed. I've never known the package being picked up by HMX1 any place other than WH south lawn or the alternate sight, and its not JBAB but who knows. ​@@macsdaddy3383

  • @watermouse9296
    @watermouse9296 9 місяців тому +3

    Ive watched quite a few of these air traffic control video and wow this visual was awesome!!! keep up the great work.

  • @marvinhaagsma9177
    @marvinhaagsma9177 10 місяців тому +55

    That was interesting. I flew a Canadian H3 up the Potomac in the 80’s, didn’t talk to a soul. Gave myself and my crew a tour right up to the Watergate Hotel and then skeedadled back to sea to our tin can which was bobbing around on the Atlantic. I guess times have changed since then.

    • @JustaPilot1
      @JustaPilot1 10 місяців тому +1

      Huge changes. I remember those days in the 80s, fixed wing. Now it is completely different.

    • @gordrilla
      @gordrilla 10 місяців тому +13

      Ya...this thing called 9/11...

    • @pjotrtje0NL
      @pjotrtje0NL 9 місяців тому +16

      And not for the better. If even a security screened law enforcing individual, in a helo, chasing a suspect, can’t do what they are supposed to do, something’s way off.

    • @JustaPilot1
      @JustaPilot1 9 місяців тому

      @@pjotrtje0NLAnd it's all TSA and Secret Service. They set up the SFRA, FRZ, and all the TFRs then hand them to the FAA to figure it out and manage them.
      Funny story. When I was getting my TAS credentials to fly out and into Patomac Airfeid, VKX, inside the FRZ I was still working and held a high-level clearance with DOD.
      I contacted the investigating authority and said, "Hey guys, I have an active DOD TS/SCI clearance. If you have access to JPAS I'll give you my SSN and you can look me up". Well, that level of clearance wasn't good enough I had to get THEIRS. It consists of a background check and fingerprinting.
      Turns out theirs barly rises to the level of a Public Trust

    • @clarkgriswold-zr5sb
      @clarkgriswold-zr5sb 9 місяців тому

      Nothing has really changed regarding threats. Massive changes have occurred with the growth of the bloated police state and demonization/targeting of US citizens.

  • @ZainHoda
    @ZainHoda 9 місяців тому +1

    I love your channel! The explanations, visuals, and voiceover are perfect!

  • @JustaPilot1
    @JustaPilot1 10 місяців тому +65

    The Marine Helo squadron is HMX-1. The short story is Helicopter, Marine, Experimental, Helo flight test. Presidential support is only one of their duties.

    • @Caninedriver
      @Caninedriver 10 місяців тому +7

      Yawn

    • @ralphholiman7401
      @ralphholiman7401 10 місяців тому +3

      Back in the eighties, at Quantico, you could actually drive right by the hanger where the Marine Bird Ones were kept and see the guards standing around it. Now, I'm sure you couldn't nearly that close. (Quantico wasn't even a closed base back then).

    • @JustaPilot1
      @JustaPilot1 10 місяців тому +3

      @@ralphholiman7401I was flying out of the Quatiico Flying Club in the 80s. That's long gone but another reason other than security.

    • @RealMagmaDash
      @RealMagmaDash 9 місяців тому

      Yes but "Marine One" is only used when the president is onboard

    • @johnroscoe2406
      @johnroscoe2406 5 місяців тому +1

      @@RealMagmaDash Correct, and also, isn't it true that ANY rotary wing aircraft the POTUS flies on becomes "Marine One" (as any fixed wing becomes "Air Force One")?

  • @GrumpyFelo
    @GrumpyFelo 10 місяців тому +5

    Awesome video as always

  • @cruisinguy6024
    @cruisinguy6024 10 місяців тому +59

    Excellent example of how unnecessarily disruptive presidential transport is in the US. I don’t know any other country that totally shuts down all airport ground and air operations for VIP transport to the extent done so in the US.
    Another example from my own experience was a life flight needing to respond to a scene call. Secret Service wouldn’t allow us to take off even though the the President wasn’t due to take off for another half hour. (Helo’s base was within the TFR)
    We had another case where the helo had landed at the hospital before the TFR went into effect but it went into place prior to them leaving. Initially they were cleared to return to base but just after taking off the secret service called, furious, instructing they return to the hospital.
    They kept the helo on the pad at the hospital for 2 whole days while the president was in town, taking away a vital resource. So absolutely incredibly unnecessary.

    • @groovulous8343
      @groovulous8343 10 місяців тому +6

      When the President first entered office they would routinely shut down traffic when he flew into Wilmington. That included I-95, I-295, I-495 and Rt-141. That's a bottleneck for traffic flowing between DC, Philly and NYC. You can imagine the backup. Miles and miles in both directions.

    • @skyserf
      @skyserf 10 місяців тому

      @RetreadPhoto​​⁠Hunter owned a gun after abusing narcotics. Hillary stored classified documents on an unsecured home server. Joe took classified documents and stored them in multiple unsecured locations including a garage. Obama conducted a surveillance operation on a President elect. None of them faced any criminal charges. Apparently some people are above the law.
      And the police officer didn’t really whine about it.

    • @SallySallySallySally
      @SallySallySallySally 10 місяців тому +4

      LOL. It's hardly "unnecessary."

    • @RVBJohn
      @RVBJohn 10 місяців тому

      ​@SallySallySallySally how many presidents have been killed inflight

    • @billbillson5082
      @billbillson5082 10 місяців тому

      @@SallySallySallySallybriden can fkn walk or drive a car like everyone else. That potato doesn’t need to be getting in the way of people fighting crime. Potato head has already let in enough criminals as it is.

  • @joshastana849
    @joshastana849 10 місяців тому +105

    So local police can be in a presidential motorcade but cant fly in there own helicopter while in the Performance of their duty? Ridiculous.

    • @mxyzptlyk
      @mxyzptlyk 10 місяців тому +24

      They should have told Marine-1 to deviate due to exigent circumstances. If POTUS doesn't agree... there's always the Press.

    • @redguard2529
      @redguard2529 10 місяців тому +33

      @@mxyzptlyk I seriously doubt POTUS would be aware of this.

    • @PoliceRamirez95
      @PoliceRamirez95 10 місяців тому

      POTUS movement takes priority over basically everything. As for the local being involved in motorcade escort, this was planned far in advance with background vetting for each officer involved due to national security. That flight was unplanned and has nothing to do with POTUS escort. Secret service don’t trust local pds on the fly and for good reasons.

    • @gordrilla
      @gordrilla 10 місяців тому +3

      You're not as smart as you think you are...

    • @trumptheg0d_712
      @trumptheg0d_712 10 місяців тому +20

      @@mxyzptlyk The problem with that is Marine One is a military flight, has priority and isn't under the control of the FAA.

  • @JustaPilot1
    @JustaPilot1 10 місяців тому +16

    I fly out and into that airspace all the time. At the beginning of the video, there's an airport near the bottom of the screen that shows a plane landing. that's my airport deep in the FRZ.

    • @guitarmasterf18
      @guitarmasterf18 10 місяців тому +2

      Heyy, we fly the same airspace! I’m mostly based out of VKX!!! Small world right!?,

    • @JustaPilot1
      @JustaPilot1 10 місяців тому +2

      @@guitarmasterf18Yup that is it. VKX as we sometimes say we fly out of Dave's world.

    • @guitarmasterf18
      @guitarmasterf18 9 місяців тому +1

      @@JustaPilot1 yup! The circle of doom lol

    • @JustaPilot1
      @JustaPilot1 9 місяців тому +1

      @@guitarmasterf18Funny story. When I was getting my credentials to fly the FRZ I had an active TS/SCI clearance. I emailed the investigator and told them that if they have access to JPAS I'll give you my SSN and to look me up. Well, an active TS/TSI wasn't good enough for TCA I had to get THEIR clearance. Turns out the FRZ clearence didn't even rise to the level of a public trust.

  • @dd43740
    @dd43740 9 місяців тому +8

    Housed in Herndon, VA, the National Capital Regional Coordination Center [NCRCC] is an interagency group that monitors D.C.'s prohibited airspace 24 hours a day, 7 days a
    week. The Washington, DC, area is the only area of the country with such a center. The Department of Defense, FAA, the Secret Service, Customs, and Border Protection and the U.S. Capitol Police, along with the TSA, which acts as the executive agency, are represented at NCRCC full-time. During major events or search operations, the Federal Bureau of Investigations, the U.S. Park Police, the Coast Guard and local law enforcement, including D.C. Police, are also NCRCC participants. Each agency or department at NCRCC is responsible for its own mission and jurisdiction as it relates to airspace security. However, the participants work together in identifying airspace that are violated or may violate prohibited airspace. While the response to each possible aircraft violation is decided by each government entity independently of the others, the information is immediately
    shared by all participants at the NCRCC.

  • @probablyjay3449
    @probablyjay3449 10 місяців тому +7

    Keep up the high quality content! Very informative, never knew DC airspace was this complicated

  • @andyasdf2078
    @andyasdf2078 9 місяців тому +30

    That must be so frustrating - who knows what kind of suspect they had eyes on just to be called off because of a one-in-a-thousand Marine One transit

    • @Motorman2112
      @Motorman2112 9 місяців тому +2

      Robbery.

    • @Wingman813
      @Wingman813 9 місяців тому +16

      Guess what? Biden just needed his ice cream. HE NEEDED HIS ICE CREAM!

    • @andyturbo
      @andyturbo 9 місяців тому +2

      I agree..honestly potus gets more than they need

    • @andyasdf2078
      @andyasdf2078 9 місяців тому +1

      @@andyturbo Bet he wasn't even on board lol

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp 9 місяців тому +2

      They should have alternative methods in place because a helicopter isn’t going to be available 100% of the time in the locations needed. Traffic cameras, small quadcopter drones, etc

  • @slickx45
    @slickx45 10 місяців тому +93

    Next time Guardian 4 goes up, they should use callsign FJB1 😂

    • @adamspringer2442
      @adamspringer2442 9 місяців тому +9

      I agree! 😂

    • @rule3039
      @rule3039 9 місяців тому +12

      You mean Foxtrot Juliet Bravo 1😂

    • @californiahighwaypatrol577
      @californiahighwaypatrol577 9 місяців тому

      Joe biden has nothing to with there operations

    • @davenz000
      @davenz000 9 місяців тому +1

      Putin1.

    • @sidavis
      @sidavis 9 місяців тому

      How about : Foxtrot | Juliet | BRANDON - ZERO

  • @wrr1218
    @wrr1218 10 місяців тому +2

    I was at HMX in the late 70’s … we always got priority!

  • @sebastianfrank4295
    @sebastianfrank4295 9 місяців тому

    That was much more interesting than I have thought when i clicked ;-)

  • @ctadam12
    @ctadam12 10 місяців тому +1

    Awesome animation and narration 👍

  • @GamerGateVeteran
    @GamerGateVeteran 5 місяців тому +1

    Reminder: The District of Columbia was created by Congress to explicitly be just the administrative center for the nation. Every building in D.C. is supposed to be just a government workplace of one sort or another. There isnt supposed to be homes or businesses inside D.C. Business and homes are supposed to be in Virginia or Maryland proper.

    • @tagtag-connected5263
      @tagtag-connected5263 4 місяці тому

      Congress did not intend for Presidents to have immunity from criminal prosecution either and certainly that is not in the constitution 😒

  • @Nic-tu1zt
    @Nic-tu1zt 9 місяців тому +2

    I worked in public safety in the dmv for many years . This is nothing new and has been like this for many years. Quite the norm

  • @jeffreypinder9398
    @jeffreypinder9398 9 місяців тому +9

    Two bad guys escaped that day.

  • @Shadow7717
    @Shadow7717 10 місяців тому

    more of your videos please. your vids are so much better than the other ATC channels.

  • @sidavis
    @sidavis 9 місяців тому +2

    GREAT Presentation .. thank you ... could you let me know what software you use for the "Air Situation Display" its graphics look different (better) than the ones I rely on .. Thank you ..

    • @AirTrafficVisualised
      @AirTrafficVisualised  9 місяців тому +1

      The visualisations run in custom software that I wrote for the channel. Thank you for the kind words, I'm pleased that people notice all the effort I put into it!

    • @sidavis
      @sidavis 9 місяців тому

      @@AirTrafficVisualised Thanks for your quick reply ... I like the look and format of your software .. I have used ADSB, -Flight Aware, Flight Radar 24 and others .. they all have their peculiarities but yours is a great layout. Nice Job.

  • @danielkormendy9378
    @danielkormendy9378 2 місяці тому

    The issue is pilot asked for a 035 heading for about 6 miles and the controller said "approved as requested". I'm not even too sure what happened or how that info was misunderstood.

  • @Atrociousnes
    @Atrociousnes 9 місяців тому +8

    Cop heli wasn't wven that close

  • @georgee6303
    @georgee6303 10 місяців тому +53

    Absolutely ridiculous. Marine One is able to safely ferry the President within hostile territory there should have been ZERO reason for them to order the Police helicopter out of the area.

    • @ericclone
      @ericclone 10 місяців тому +11

      FJB!

    • @alt5z
      @alt5z 10 місяців тому +8

      Can't interrupt Joe when he goes out in the chopper for an ice cream cone. 🍦🍦

    • @Nicolas_Cage_Bees
      @Nicolas_Cage_Bees 10 місяців тому

      Look fat, there's nothing he can do!

    • @gordrilla
      @gordrilla 10 місяців тому +5

      Grow tf up they can do whatever they want when it comes to the POTUS while airborne

    • @user-ox7pb5us5g
      @user-ox7pb5us5g 10 місяців тому

      @@ericclonenice work. you really got eeeeem.

  • @waterfall3
    @waterfall3 9 місяців тому

    That's a great photo of Huntington Beach Police Department, MD 520 NOTAR helicopter known for its quiet no tail rotor. However, it has since been retired in 2023.

  • @nrakma
    @nrakma 10 місяців тому +3

    Marine 1 always has priority.

  • @TheBenghaziRabbit
    @TheBenghaziRabbit 9 місяців тому +1

    So funny when people call it Wilmington Airport. There is no such thing. It's New Castle Municipal Airport, Wilmington doesn't have one.

  • @zedbear1
    @zedbear1 9 місяців тому

    Western Loudoun County needs the FAA to take control of all helicopters flying in zone 6. Some fly with very little lighting, some fly well below 1000 feet, I'm at 654' of elevation just east of the Blue Ridge. I can see a heli pilots feet, even eye glasses when I run outside to see what's going to hit my house. One day there will be a chopper down near my house due to negligence of a pilot or FAA. It's nearly impossible to report as well.

  • @southbayliftedtrucks3648
    @southbayliftedtrucks3648 9 місяців тому

    Why is the Huntington Beach, Ca police helicopter in the picture? This didn’t happen in California. 🤔🤔

  • @frisk151
    @frisk151 9 місяців тому +1

    Great job... I've never flown in or around DC in anything but commercial... That is an airspace I'm happy not to fly inside of.. Didn't know about the zones.. Still very interesting.. Thanks!

  • @5.56Media
    @5.56Media 6 місяців тому +1

    The fact is that Guardian is actually Prince George's County Maryland Police Department helo ... not DC.

  • @stupidburp
    @stupidburp 9 місяців тому +9

    Happens all the time with VIPs entering an area in the air or on the ground. Normal traffic and operations will be disrupted. That is the cost of the added security measures. Some VIPs avoid travel into certain areas at certain times to prevent becoming too much of a burden. But the VIPs do need to travel some and some disruptions are unavoidable.

  • @frenchonion4595
    @frenchonion4595 9 місяців тому +5

    Police pilot: "15 minutes and the criminal will get away"
    Biden: "I dont work for you pal"

  • @fieeedahusssain8407
    @fieeedahusssain8407 Місяць тому

    Which tracking app is this

  • @mostlypeacefuljogger4622
    @mostlypeacefuljogger4622 8 місяців тому +1

    In all honesty, even if they were pursuing a criminal, they would’ve released their criminal if they caught them.

  • @philtheheaterguy951
    @philtheheaterguy951 10 місяців тому +44

    While I understand the necessity of Marine One receiving priority routing, the Police Helicopter was on a time sensitive mission and should have been given priority. If the issue at hand was that the Police Helicopter was a threat to the President, then our country is screwed up.

    • @A_A_J.
      @A_A_J. 10 місяців тому +8

      Then you don’t understand.

    • @waynec9444
      @waynec9444 10 місяців тому +25

      @@A_A_J. Then YOU don't understand!

    • @philtheheaterguy951
      @philtheheaterguy951 10 місяців тому

      @@A_A_J. I understand 100%. The police helicopter on a robbery in progress call should have priority over a Joe Biden Family Cartel corruption mission.

    • @philtheheaterguy951
      @philtheheaterguy951 10 місяців тому +7

      @@Look_What_You_Did Actually, I am very bright. So sorry you disagree.

    • @rtbrtb_dutchy4183
      @rtbrtb_dutchy4183 10 місяців тому +5

      @@philtheheaterguy951so anyone in a helicopter, calling themselves: “Guardian 4”, should be allowed near POTUS? Or do you have some other way of identifying this helicopter from afar?
      It’s simple, nobody comes close to Marine one or Airforce one.

  • @insomniarunn
    @insomniarunn 5 місяців тому

    How long would it take to shoot down a police helicopter if it proceeded to move in the direction of marine one while being unresponsive to atc commands?

    • @kcgunesq
      @kcgunesq Місяць тому

      Just a wild guess on my part, but in D.C., I'd suspect about 30 seconds if no one hesitated.

    • @JustherefortheLOLZ
      @JustherefortheLOLZ 17 днів тому

      If it was Navy, never. PIO is always a big part in their decision making process. Air Force, immediate. I would hope more than likely they would take out the engine and force them to autorotate down.

  • @RussTi
    @RussTi 6 місяців тому

    I'm sorry, but West Virginia is in no way part of the DC Metro Area. It's called The DMV for a reason: DC, Maryland, and Virginia. WV is way to far away.

  • @michlo3393
    @michlo3393 7 місяців тому

    Growing up in LA, and with the large number of televised police chases from helicopters, it wasn't uncommon for the chase to turn toward the South Bay, and the news chopper getting held at a distance to avoid arrival traffic at LAX. In no time we would be watching the chase at the furthest end of the cameras zoom, all super compressed and weird looking lol

  • @edcolorado2912
    @edcolorado2912 10 місяців тому +1

    Great visuals: how and what are you using its real clean. Programs used?

    • @AirTrafficVisualised
      @AirTrafficVisualised  9 місяців тому +9

      The basemap is provided by Mapbox (with custom styling), everything else runs in custom software I wrote.

  • @FoulOwl2112
    @FoulOwl2112 10 місяців тому +14

    Talk about a Nothing Burger.
    Blicked

  • @covrtdesign5279
    @covrtdesign5279 6 місяців тому

    This happens EVERY day and it still doesn't get fixed.

  • @chaleau8116
    @chaleau8116 3 місяці тому

    So, basically the President is treated like a King... interesting.

  • @ahmadsamadzai8255
    @ahmadsamadzai8255 9 місяців тому

    This is the funniest atc comm I've heard in a long time. 😅

  • @Rocky12323
    @Rocky12323 9 місяців тому +4

    President always fing things up lol

  • @brianstoneburner1193
    @brianstoneburner1193 9 місяців тому +1

    How can that be anymore confusing??

  • @akkseljohansson3601
    @akkseljohansson3601 10 місяців тому +4

    Guardian calls in: guardian 4, zone 2? Clearly showing the 520 in Zone 3… oops

    • @jamesbulldogmiller
      @jamesbulldogmiller 9 місяців тому +1

      I saw that too.

    • @MikeDCWeld
      @MikeDCWeld 9 місяців тому +4

      That would appear to have been a request, not a report. Guardian 4's later radio call of Zone 3 was _approved_ by the controller, not merely read back.

  • @ranchopatriot
    @ranchopatriot 10 місяців тому +9

    As if anything would happen to the robbery suspects.

  • @mrmyth5846
    @mrmyth5846 9 місяців тому +2

    As a pilot, you have standing protocol on how and what to do. If somebody on the ground orders you to violate that protocol you tell them…NO!

    • @That2vGuy
      @That2vGuy 9 місяців тому +3

      Yeah okay. Go ahead and get a pen and notepad out to copy a number.

    • @mowtivatedmechanic1172
      @mowtivatedmechanic1172 9 місяців тому +5

      Ahhhhh marine one is armed. I’ll stay out of their way.

  • @stephanieparker1250
    @stephanieparker1250 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video, I learned a bit there. Awesome visuals as always! 🤗

  • @LincolnLagger
    @LincolnLagger 9 місяців тому

    Why does ATC communication usually start with "and...."

    • @jtocwru
      @jtocwru 9 місяців тому +4

      It's an old crutch to prevent the beginning of a received transmission from being missed. By using a throwaway word like "and" or "uhh" to give the receiver something to break squelch before any actual info is transmitted. It also is an effective remedy for lesser trained radio ops who key up at the same time they start to talk. It's basically a courtesy.

  • @tylercummings8636
    @tylercummings8636 9 місяців тому +4

    Their robbery suspect was just to the southwest aboard Marine One. Not sure how they missed that.

  • @jld9107
    @jld9107 9 місяців тому

    Did the suspect get away?

  • @Quasihamster
    @Quasihamster 10 місяців тому +3

    Today on Lengthwise with Tim Skit: The president of the United States circles a suburb, and 10 kilometers away, a suspect gets away with his crime. How are these two events connected?

  • @Jerseykid4life
    @Jerseykid4life 9 місяців тому +3

    Hope the President was on time for another vacation

  • @1JamesZ
    @1JamesZ 8 місяців тому

    Yes, forget citizens, government officials don’t care if you’re trying to find a suspect and help citizens

  • @YaofuZhou
    @YaofuZhou 10 місяців тому

    How was I not aware this Channel years earlier?!!!

  • @TruckingToPlease
    @TruckingToPlease 9 місяців тому

    Surprised that Marine 1 didn't have 2 other decoy aircraft in proximity, which is the SOP.

    • @JamesLightning
      @JamesLightning 9 місяців тому +6

      Even the marines want Joe out!

    • @delta250a
      @delta250a 9 місяців тому +1

      @@JamesLightning No they don't.

    • @CaptainBillP
      @CaptainBillP 6 місяців тому

      @@delta250a nobody in the military respects Sleepy Joe

    • @Avionicx
      @Avionicx 5 місяців тому +1

      They did. Their callsign is "Marine One flight", not "Marine One". "Flight" usually indicates more than one aircraft

  • @Mattjki
    @Mattjki 8 місяців тому

    I feel like the cop didn't quite get the message.?

  • @MrPolik890
    @MrPolik890 9 місяців тому

    Quick Rant: This is exactly why I got pulled out of that scene from 'Beloved' in Marvel's Secret invasion. (Take away being in an area of the Omniverse where there's a group consensus on Super Hero's.) There's no way random helicopters just fly in with that little of lead time.
    Rant done for fiction.

  • @gungadinn
    @gungadinn 10 місяців тому +24

    ATC sounds like a new hire, but to work in the DC area, that's not possible. The amount of money wasted to transport a vegetable is insane.

    • @philtheheaterguy951
      @philtheheaterguy951 10 місяців тому +3

      They could use an old f-100 and just pack potus in a crate.

    • @eguess6103
      @eguess6103 10 місяців тому +5

      ATC sounds like he’s on it. Not sure why he comes across as a new hire. And just imagine the vegetable you voted for in the helio. I’m sure the money was well spent then.

    • @firebeardlongfellow5295
      @firebeardlongfellow5295 10 місяців тому

      Do you know how very little that narrows down who you mean with our current representatives?
      Plus which one? Sleepy Joe, or Orange bankrupt Trump?

    • @dmcd7333
      @dmcd7333 10 місяців тому

      Tds is showing
      .. the vegetable is playing pRESIDENT........​@@firebeardlongfellow5295

    • @gungadinn
      @gungadinn 10 місяців тому +2

      @@eguess6103Nope, I'm tired of the country hemorrhaging money to transport our version of a king around.
      The president should get 5-6 weeks vacation. The personal trips home on weekends needs to stop. Same for using AF1 as a campaign tool, because it isn't just one aircraft that flies, but both 27001 and 28001 in case of a breakdown. Then the C-17 for the vehicles and the Secret Service details.
      The president was elected, not coronated.

  • @timkellyD2R
    @timkellyD2R 10 місяців тому +15

    No mystery. Marine One was unstable due to the added weight of the adult diapers.

    • @gordrilla
      @gordrilla 10 місяців тому +3

      Was Diaper Donny aboard?

    • @rihamy2nd
      @rihamy2nd 10 місяців тому +1

      @@gordrillalooks like it occurred 9 FEB 24, so that would be Jello Joey.

    • @delta250a
      @delta250a 9 місяців тому

      tRumpy was known for having diapers on and stinking up the place.

  • @joeb9135
    @joeb9135 9 місяців тому +2

    not close enough

  • @icambridge
    @icambridge 6 місяців тому

    Kind of a clickbait title. They didn't get close to them at all nevermind too close. They just got directed somewhere and then got asked to leave. Marine one remained in the same location during the entire time

  • @Pooneil1984
    @Pooneil1984 10 місяців тому +7

    Interesting in the absence of normal ATC protocols of announcing your callsign for each transmission. And amount of non-flight chatter.

    • @Theenforcer921
      @Theenforcer921 10 місяців тому +13

      Police typically have a separate channel to ATC because of the erratic nature of their flights

    • @thud9797
      @thud9797 10 місяців тому +5

      This obviously is not normal ATC.

    • @N1120A
      @N1120A 10 місяців тому +4

      ​@@Theenforcer921 police in the US use the same frequencies as everyone else. Military use UHF instead of VHF

    • @Theenforcer921
      @Theenforcer921 10 місяців тому +1

      @@N1120A Same type, different frequency from other traffic is what I meant.

    • @colt10mmsecurity68
      @colt10mmsecurity68 10 місяців тому +1

      @@N1120ANot exactly correct. At some of the Class B and even Class C airports, there is a separate frequency just for helicopter traffic exclusively. KLAX and KBUR are only two examples. …and by the way, the military uses BOTH UHF and VHF bands. It just depends what the controllers want them to talk on at the time. Ask me how I know.

  • @JustaPerson01234
    @JustaPerson01234 8 місяців тому

    Wow he really does screw up everything

  • @DJ99777
    @DJ99777 9 місяців тому

    This is a country that has lost its way.

  • @GamerDuCaos
    @GamerDuCaos 10 місяців тому +1

    Cool video!!

  • @yankeetango
    @yankeetango 9 місяців тому +6

    The criminal suspect escaped to Delaware aboard Marine One.

    • @delta250a
      @delta250a 9 місяців тому

      Your a few years late for the criminal. The US public done a great thing and voted that orange traitor out.

  • @josepheller8395
    @josepheller8395 7 місяців тому

    Potato head was late for his 6 oclock ice cream.

  • @hemp64731
    @hemp64731 9 місяців тому +11

    Please tell me how marine one was more of a priority then a robbery suspect.

    • @ra2186
      @ra2186 7 місяців тому +4

      How is that at all confusing? Any head of state will always be priority over everything.

    • @elmanuele
      @elmanuele 7 місяців тому +1

      Are you usually this dense?

    • @hemp64731
      @hemp64731 7 місяців тому +1

      @@elmanuele He's a man, that can wait for that chopper to help catch that guy. What was so important that he couldn't wait?

    • @elmanuele
      @elmanuele 7 місяців тому +2

      @@hemp64731 he’s not in control of surrounding traffic. Pre-determined rules are. He was probably asleep or being briefed on something. Heads of State have right of way, anywhere in the world. You’re just trying to stir shit up.

    • @hemp64731
      @hemp64731 7 місяців тому +1

      @@elmanuele what shit is that then?

  • @nursetazzi
    @nursetazzi 10 місяців тому +22

    "Our suspect will be gone in 15 minutes".......oy.......I understand protecting the president but geez.....

    • @nwoida8057
      @nwoida8057 10 місяців тому

      Dont think identity of the VIP was communicated

    • @m2hmghb
      @m2hmghb 10 місяців тому

      Call sign is only Marine One when the POTUS is onboard.@@nwoida8057

    • @goatdocfilms504
      @goatdocfilms504 10 місяців тому +11

      @@nwoida8057 the call sign Marine One identifies the VIP as that call sign can only be used by a Marine Aircraft that is Transporting the president.

    • @stephanieparker1250
      @stephanieparker1250 10 місяців тому +2

      Well knowing DC, that suspect will be back on radar the next day.

    • @LV_223
      @LV_223 10 місяців тому

      @@goatdocfilms504I am probably completely and utterly wrong here but I thought it was any fixed wing aircraft POTUS is currently flying in becomes Air Force One and any rotary wing aircraft POTUS is flying in becomes Marine One. Do the aircraft have to be Air Force or Marine Corps aircraft? For example, when Bush 2 landed on that aircraft carrier in a Navy F18 for his infamous “Mission Accomplished” speech in 2003, what was that aircraft’s callsign while he was onboard? Hypothetically speaking, if POTUS was transported in a Gulfstream or some random helicopter, what would that aircraft’s call sign become? I realize that will almost certainly never happen, but still curious nonetheless.

  • @ralts6464
    @ralts6464 8 місяців тому

    Sir im protecting my boss’s boss’s boss’s boss

  • @jessicaregina1956
    @jessicaregina1956 7 місяців тому

    Now imagine if years later this led to a presidential assassination and they traced it back to this incident 😂

  • @ProfAkili
    @ProfAkili 8 місяців тому

    Plot twist, the suspect was in marine 1😅

  • @teamofsteve
    @teamofsteve 10 місяців тому +3

    Interesting but not very dramatic. Still I do love the way these videos are put together.

    • @BlueSkyUp_EU
      @BlueSkyUp_EU 10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, it depends what that suspect was wanted for. If for violent crimes, things might get dramatic for those crossing his path.
      As for the video, no big drama from our perspective, but probably protective services would disagree. The police helicopter request was approved then awkwardly disapproved. There might be some drama there behind the scene 😄

  • @549BR
    @549BR 10 місяців тому +5

    Dumb me, I don't see Guardian 4 anywhere near Marine 1 in your display; certainly not on a collision course.

  • @20truck
    @20truck 9 місяців тому

    Yes marine one when it's operational they don't care what you're doing, it's either do what you're told or you get brought out of the sky the hard way I'd say in about another minute guardian for may have experienced something he didn't want to happen. I know sometimes when the presidents want to play golf they'll call the country clubs and a lot of times they won't let them play because the country clubs don't want to close everything down and tell all the members you have to stay off the course, you would think they would be honored to have the president but most of the time they're not. I don't mean golf courses that are in Washington I'm talking about when the president's traveling and he goes to other states or cities, many times the local Country clubs won't let the president play.

    • @MissCheeseE
      @MissCheeseE 9 місяців тому

      What about air ambulances carrying a patient in need of urgent care?

  • @Comeon-no6jo
    @Comeon-no6jo 9 місяців тому +1

    The American President Joe Biden’s number one priority!!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 the best president ever Joe Biden!!!!🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇
    God bless the United States of America !!!! Joe for life😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

  • @micksmith7140
    @micksmith7140 9 місяців тому +2

    Doesn't matter if the criminals had been caught or not they would have been released without bail so why waste the effort!

    • @CrashEng
      @CrashEng 5 місяців тому

      congrats on not understanding the system, bozo. do you think they just get "released" and they're off the hook in those cases?

  • @joeltobias3354
    @joeltobias3354 10 місяців тому +21

    Pathetic. This was a law Enforcement helicopter and it’s not allowed to conduct its business because POTUS is nearby. P A T H E T I C.

    • @rtbrtb_dutchy4183
      @rtbrtb_dutchy4183 10 місяців тому +1

      Nothing pathetic about it. I’m sure you will also call it pathetic when there is a near miss or worse.

  • @honestmcgyver
    @honestmcgyver 6 місяців тому

    On the one hand I get it but on the other a little too over the top

  • @matty2timez708
    @matty2timez708 7 місяців тому

    The beach is more important...

  • @Jimmythefish577
    @Jimmythefish577 9 місяців тому +4

    The arrogance, sense of entitlement and paranoia that surrounds the POTUS is ridiculous. And that’s not a dig at the current president, that’s regarding all of them. When you need that much protection and you’re that paranoid, you must know you’re doing something wrong.

  • @cowboykody6775
    @cowboykody6775 9 місяців тому

    They are helicopters NOT heleecoptors

  • @rrai1999
    @rrai1999 10 місяців тому +30

    That's pitiful, "suspect will be gone in 15 minutes.." Ugh. Really?????????????? That was MORE IMPORTANT than that geriatric getting there a few minutes faster!!! UGH!!!!

    • @nian60
      @nian60 10 місяців тому

      And what would you say if the orange toad did the exact same flight? Heil fuhrer, I bet.

  • @brentdreisbach6829
    @brentdreisbach6829 10 місяців тому +19

    Joe will go to any length to let criminals go free ☹️

    • @van-dap
      @van-dap 10 місяців тому

      have you met anyone in the republican party? Oh, I guess if you get pardoned for lying to the FBI it's A-okay. Commit fraud, corruption, and abuse... it's a-okay. Want to overthrow an election cause you're a tiny-handed pissbaby it's a-okay.