The Recruiters Guide to The English Civil War ep1 Pike

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  • Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
  • Who were the soldiers in the British Civil Wars? What did they do? How were they trained? In this episode, find out about a Pikeman's recruitment and training.
    Kindly made for the National Civil War Centre by Martin Wilderspin Lovell
    wildbears.mypo...
    Thanks go to:
    Lindsay Wilderspin Lovell
    Sir Thomas Blackwell's Regiment of Foote (sirthomasblack...)
    Gideon Tozer (www.flickr.com...)
    Laura Simpson
    Ian Peaple
    David Ashbolt
    The Marquess of Winchester's Regiment (www.marquisofwi...)
    The King's Army (www.thekingsarm...)
    The National Civil War Centre, Newark (www.nationalciv...)
    Music and SFX: www.epidemicsound.com
    Drums: • The Calls of War.wmv

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  • @RedJohnO22
    @RedJohnO22 3 роки тому +81

    as a writer of fantasy, with technology from The Pike and shot era injected into it, videos like these are absolutely priceless. Thank you so much for posting.

    • @whyismyricewet1986
      @whyismyricewet1986 2 роки тому

      Same here, any tips?

    • @RedJohnO22
      @RedJohnO22 2 роки тому +2

      @@whyismyricewet1986 Remember....write for yourself and for the art of it, not for profit or the potential of. For this kills imagination.

    • @jack1701e
      @jack1701e 2 роки тому +3

      I'm wondering how to have some ECW influence into the fantasy world building project I'm doing, but there are no guns in it... perhaps I can replace them with something more magical maybe!

    • @RedJohnO22
      @RedJohnO22 2 роки тому

      @@jack1701e maybe. ;)

    • @user-pt7ch9tr4h
      @user-pt7ch9tr4h 9 місяців тому +1

      what book? @RedJohnO22

  • @SmolBloof
    @SmolBloof Рік тому +26

    Would love to see this with - as outlined - the shot, artillery, and horseman!

    • @joeerickson516
      @joeerickson516 Рік тому +1

      "The Arawak tribe, Aztecs, Mayans, Mixtecs, Olmecs, Toltecs, Zapotecs, Incas, Mapuche tribe, and the Muisca are no match for the spanish,🇪🇸 conquistadors."

    • @joeerickson516
      @joeerickson516 Рік тому +1

      "The natives of mesoamerica and the andes, are no match for armored pikemen and arquebusier formation, Italian, 🇮🇹 Genoese, crossbowmen formation, cannonball volley fire, 🔥 from light 🚦 bronze 🥉 spanish, 🇪🇸 cannons, armored horsemen, 🐴 cavalry formation, from Granada, Spain."🇪🇸

    • @joeerickson516
      @joeerickson516 Рік тому +1

      "Overkill!"

  • @davidmargetts821
    @davidmargetts821 10 місяців тому +3

    Another I remember was, adopt a lazy posture, but I can't remember what that was. I remember the annoyance of sparks in mine ear from the pan of the musket next to me, which made me ponder upon a choice of helmet with ear flaps.

  • @steretsjaaj2368
    @steretsjaaj2368 3 роки тому +24

    We need more videos like this. Very good production

    • @wadebradsher2973
      @wadebradsher2973 3 роки тому +2

      Agreed, I’d love to see one on shot as well.

    • @wildbearsphotography
      @wildbearsphotography 2 роки тому +1

      @@wadebradsher2973 I am writing it this very moment. Thanks all for the kind words.

    • @wadebradsher2973
      @wadebradsher2973 2 роки тому

      @@wildbearsphotography I suppose the rules on the other side of the pond makes pike easier to film.

    • @Spetsnaz0o1
      @Spetsnaz0o1 2 роки тому

      @@wildbearsphotography any news on the next video? I am eagerly awaiting!

  • @Psiberzerker
    @Psiberzerker 3 роки тому +13

    As a colonial, I tend to talk about the War of the Roses, because Americans don't really understand pretty much any of the English Civil Wars. (They also imagine Kepies, cap, and ball muzzle loaders when they hear "Civil War.") They also ask FAQs, like "Why's it called the War of the Roses" so i can tell them about the Lancasters, and Yorks.

    • @Psiberzerker
      @Psiberzerker 3 роки тому +2

      Okay, while it's true that there were Pike, and Shot Squares, there were also Archers, Mercenaries (Such as the gallowglass) and other irregular Skirmishers. This is about the Pike, which was pretty typical of the Levees, because as you pointed out, massed Pikes are pretty much the easiest to train, and the most effective (For protecting the Muskets) in formation, at the time. Likewise the Cavalry, and Cannon, but TWotR was such a widespread, and lucrative event, they attracted people from the Continent (Especially with Queen Margaret of Anjou, and her ties with the French courts, as well as relations with the court of Naples from her father...) I know, this is simplifying things, and focusing on the Pike in Pike and Shot. Hopefully, you'll get to the irregulars, like the Gallowglass, because those are honestly the most fascinating to me.

    • @vaudevillian7
      @vaudevillian7 2 роки тому +2

      That’s a shame as I’d argue that it’s quite integral to understanding the American Revolution

    • @TheSkullboy1996
      @TheSkullboy1996 9 місяців тому

      this get up is several generations removed from the war of the roses, this is the English civil war

  • @autumn1409
    @autumn1409 2 роки тому +10

    This was so entertaining, informative, and funny too! We got to see all the little details step by step. Love to see more like this.

  • @Smudge208
    @Smudge208 3 роки тому +4

    Excellent video

  • @MM22966
    @MM22966 9 місяців тому

    Love it! The expressions, the beat up gear instead of some shiny museum set, the practical advice & info...All of it! Down with the bloody Roundheads and/or the Cavaliers!

  • @stellariley7033
    @stellariley7033 3 роки тому +10

    Fun as well as being informative. Well done!

  • @Tiberiotertio
    @Tiberiotertio 3 роки тому +6

    Not bad although where I am we had no King Charles, it would be an Emporer and it would be Generalisimus Wallenstein.

  • @jasonmarshall771
    @jasonmarshall771 9 місяців тому

    Really good to watch and brought back lots of great memories, I was a pikeman for over 12yrs in John brights regiment of foote in the English civil War society HAPPY HAPPY DAYS 😂😂 brilliant 👏 😀

  • @RottenSkull
    @RottenSkull 8 місяців тому

    Very good reference for writers and concept designers. Thanks a lot :)

  • @grahamfisher5436
    @grahamfisher5436 9 місяців тому

    I discovered the horses stables, hidden in the cellar of the now called "stables" building on
    Appleton gate, opposite church walk, back in 95.
    😊

  • @thomasclements
    @thomasclements 3 роки тому +12

    RIP headphone users at the start

  • @Subsidiarity3
    @Subsidiarity3 9 місяців тому +2

    I really like this. But what I'm more interested in how you convince a country bumpkin (who could be quite smart actually) to risk his life for your cause. What gets said farmer's son (I am actually one from the modern era) onto a battlefield where he watches his comrades scream in agony as they die horribly, or inflicts such a death on someone on the opposite side very much like himself? What keeps him steady when he's facing a line of musketeers who are about to send a volley his way? What does he tell himself that makes this risk and horror worth it? Why should he serve the king? Why should he serve parliament? What role does religion play in this? How do recruiters appeal to him? Who is he that he should take on such risks and suffering? Does he feel coerced? Trapped by economic circumstances? Bored?
    I know some of the answers to these questions. I was such a young man 40 years ago. I joined the Reserves in Canada because I wanted to be a soldier and defend my country and people against communism etc. I wanted to be part of the valour, adventure and sacrifice that was celebrated by my elders who had gone through WW2. And I was young and had no imagination for the horrors of war.

    • @piney4562
      @piney4562 9 місяців тому +2

      It's an interesting question, with a fair few answers. The first that come to my mind, are
      A) In the 1600s, being a farm hand was probably incredibly boring, so doing something different, anything different, would be welcome occasionally.
      B) Mob mentality and/or peer pressure. If everyone else is doing it, you don't want to be left out, or worse, called a coward.
      C) Poverty is a big motivator, if our country bumpkin is poor as poor can be, a steady wage is nothing to scoff at.
      D) Tradition/wanting to emulate your ancestors, indeed the same reason you mentioned. But I think possibly amplified in this period due to the regularity of conflict.
      E) Less a reason to do it, but a reason not to do it, having absolutely no understanding of what it entails. In the modern world we have countless media, and documentation, from poems to films, telling us every day, how bad war is. Back then, they had the opposite. Miniscule media (accessible to a bumpkin) and almost all of it, pro war.
      F) and of course, potential personal grievances, if Cromwell and his cronies have just burnt down the next village over, that your cousin happens tonlive in. Why wouldn't you fight for the king?

    • @ganjacomo2005
      @ganjacomo2005 9 місяців тому

      ​@@piney4562sadly the majority of them was conscripted because they quickly ran out of people.

  • @bignasty389
    @bignasty389 9 місяців тому

    Yo! Looking for the rest of this series. Fun stuff.

  • @grahamfisher5436
    @grahamfisher5436 9 місяців тому

    Im from Newark-upon-Trent 😊

  • @nicktrueman224
    @nicktrueman224 5 місяців тому

    During the deluge I believe Gustavus did not use peasants rather well trained men.
    And earlier on 1600s 1630s the Poles had the best cavalry in Europe.
    You need good pikemen to defeat such cavalry

  • @Briselance
    @Briselance Рік тому +1

    01:03
    Hmmm... it appear we have a pikewoman in the company.

  • @ElZilchoYo
    @ElZilchoYo Рік тому +2

    wish you guys could do this for musketeers

  • @Kevin-mx1vi
    @Kevin-mx1vi 9 місяців тому

    He's carrying a sword. In a pike unit that's just something else to trip you up !

  • @mr31337
    @mr31337 3 роки тому +1

    Great LARP video.

  • @Joel-xl2nt
    @Joel-xl2nt 3 роки тому +2

    Good job!

  • @b1laxson
    @b1laxson 10 місяців тому

    @03:46 oh baby, work that "pike" man

  • @heatherwildman5652
    @heatherwildman5652 3 роки тому +1

    Fantastic !!!

  • @EliasHernandez-dq3nz
    @EliasHernandez-dq3nz 3 роки тому +1

    Good channel

  • @MM22966
    @MM22966 9 місяців тому

    I accept you're going by what is in a drill manual from the period (I assume), but it seems incredibly awkward to hold a sword AND the pike while preparing to receive cavalry. Is there any accounts supporting they actually did it this way in the field?

  • @htinsharkyaw8308
    @htinsharkyaw8308 Рік тому

    A thousands like for the model

  • @MbisonBalrog
    @MbisonBalrog 10 місяців тому +1

    If standing sideways won’t they need shoulder pads to deflect enemy pikes.

  • @nicholasleaf3646
    @nicholasleaf3646 Рік тому +1

    Where is the second part? 😢

  • @Bigsmokeeey
    @Bigsmokeeey 3 роки тому +4

    Would anyone be able to tell me the source of the song played in the intro to this video? Thanks!

  • @stressmanager8102
    @stressmanager8102 2 роки тому +1

    i suppose we aren’t getting a sequel

  • @jedmistro
    @jedmistro 2 роки тому +1

    Where'd you get your sword my man?

  • @samueljackson6188
    @samueljackson6188 Рік тому +3

    No different than what the American Army issued me before Iraqi. Albeit it was updated to modern standards.

  • @jimmehjiimmeehh9748
    @jimmehjiimmeehh9748 3 роки тому

    I am curious where you got that stabbing technique from, as it's kind of horrible and awkward. Is that actually how they were trained?

    • @wildbearsphotography
      @wildbearsphotography 2 роки тому +6

      Jacob De Gheyn’s exercise of arms for caliures, muskettes, and pikes.
      However I am quite curious how you would do it?

  • @robinstacpoole2667
    @robinstacpoole2667 10 місяців тому +1

    Very good. Except for the pike. Not quite a spear. Perhaps more a straw aspiring to attitude? Note to author. Get more followers to achieve more budget. but carry on. Please,

  • @ihateregistrationbul
    @ihateregistrationbul 10 місяців тому

    3:45 sassy

  • @nicholasleaf3646
    @nicholasleaf3646 Рік тому +1

    Your demonstration pike is too short 😅

    • @Tyrannocaster
      @Tyrannocaster 10 місяців тому

      No shit. It's too thin to be a real pike, too.

    • @chrisball3778
      @chrisball3778 8 місяців тому

      1) if it was full-length it'd be very hard to get the hole thing in shot, especially as it was filmed in someone's back garden. The voiceover does describe the real things as '18 feet long', so they're clearly aware of the real lengths.
      2) there are contemporary accounts of pikes during the English Civil Wars being chopped in half to make them easier to manage by poorly-trained troops, so it's not necessarily that anachronistic for the time period being depicted.

    • @chrisball3778
      @chrisball3778 8 місяців тому

      @@Tyrannocaster There are plenty of real surviving 17th century pikes in museums that are that thin, especially towards the head end. They could be very, very long, so if they were thick for their entire length they'd be impossible to wield effectively. If it's being used properly, it should only be used for stabbing, not hitting, so having something that's light and nimble enough to aim at your enemy's unarmoured parts is arguably more important than having something with a lot of lateral strength.