Baltany 1926 Oyster Tribute - Vintage Looks. Modern Reliability. Full Review
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2023
- This is a video review of the Baltany 1926 Oyster Tribute watch. I examine every detail of this watdh and even put it under the microscope. How well will it do? Watch to find out!
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To anyone thinking of buying, this looks even better than in photos/videos. It's simply stunning.
I had this one in myself and loved it! I think vintage homages are really the right direction for Baltany, they're nailing it so far
Totally agree!
Much prefer this version to the quartz one. I liked the look of the quartz (except for the quartz second tick) but this one has smashed it out of the park. Big fan of cathedral hands and the colour of the lume has nailed the old school radium look.
I am glad you feel the same as me, when i first saw this one I was amazed. So many nice features and the price makes you consider it as an option.
Thanks for the revue, love the design of the watch. The gold trim on the polished silver with the vintage style dial , the square case makes it unique unlike everyone else’s watch.
Very handsome watch
Thanks for watching! I can only agree with your comment.
Great review Mike. Your production of the videos is top notch. This watch is a winner, they really nailed it.
Thank you David. Nice to get feedback on the production., it takes me ages to edit videos
Oh my gosh, I love this watch! I would buy it in a heart beat! Beautiful. If they put lines on the back it would hopefully take away from the scratches. WOW 🎉
What a beauty Mike, and the watch isn't too shabby either!
Love this kind of retro, have got two Vario 1918 trench retro’s. Superb video Mike, stay well.
It’s definitely a nice watch . I also have a 1918 Vario. Absolutely love it.
Impressive review, really enjoyed your enthusiasm and attention to detail. Definitely above a lot of other watch channels here on UA-cam. Bell activated!
Baltany are really hitting the mark with their latest offerings. I got one their pilot chronographs in the last Ali sale. Excellently made and looks fantastic.
Yes I have had my eye on those too especially after Jody raved about one on One More Watch. Might have to order one now!
I just found Brew watches and was blown away, they are stunning designs. Affordable too.
Nice looking watch, thanks for the video. Very tempted to buy one of their others, they use some good movements.
Pleased you enjoyed this episode
I like the look of this watch. Thanks for posting
Excellent review again. I just watched the review of the quartz version on your other channel and i think i prefer the dials on those. I'm not usually a fan of black and gilt, but this one grew on me quickly. The size is perfect in my opinion and I agree that the watch wears bigger due to the shape. If you get a chance to take this movement apart I'd love to see that video. I'm looking forward to the Omega video for sure!
Quite a few of you have asked to look at the movement so I will have to schedule it in. My list of “to do” on the channel is huge
It’s been my experience that square and cushion case watches wear slightly larger (usually about 2mm larger). Also, I believe the “hoop style lugs” you mentioned are called “fixed lugs”. Great review.
Super nice looking watch, love the big crown. I think de size is perfect at 36mm and it fit perfect on your wrist ! Another nice review Mike thank you 🙏 !!
Thanks Alain . I really do like this model !
Great review as always, and also a great watch. Black and gold is an all-time winner. Can't await the next Ali sale 😀
Well as we all know the sales come along before you know it. I do wonder what reduction would be offered on this one.
Nice shots ;)
I like it!
Absolutely beautiful
Really like this one Michael. It looks good and it shows how spot on the early designs were/are.
It will benefit from a rub of emery on the back to lose the mirror finish. I can see the case probably needing a similar treatment after a few months continuous wear.
For the money it's a lot of watch.
Thanks Clive, I plan to put linier brushing on the back at some point to "mod" the watch to my liking. Its thin enough on the wrist to not get scuffed too much by wear as I will be hard pressed to catch this one on a door handle! (something I do all the time, followed by many expletives )
I was already subscribed!! (The Seiko chronograph student).
I like this little piece and will work to acquire it n the near future. The Baltany website has more dial colorways and tend to lean to the gold dial with silver bezel. All versions are very nice.
Very nice. Really looking forward to Baltany expanding beyond vintage and military style watches (which isn’t really my cup of tea - yet). Thanks for the great review of both watches.
Thank you for watching both! I am new to Baltany but like what they are doing so far just hope they dont make a submariner homage like everyone else does.
@@MyRetroWatches Actually they do make a Submariner Homage. And it’s probably the only one I would consider getting because it’s a vintage version, and they put their own touch to it.
I think that's a beautiful piece. Beautiful music too!
Thank you very much your the only person to comment on the intro!
@@MyRetroWatches I can't believe it! It's superb 👌🏻
I've got a couple of Baltany watches - an A-11 homage that my wife bought me last year for my birthday and the dirty dozen homage with the same movement as this and I love both of them. I've seen this one also, but it had passed me by. I think I might be buying a third Baltany, now.
Yes sounds like you need triple Baltany in your life now
- Love it too Young Mike - I have a quartz version , silver brushed face with blued handset mounted on a Vero Bund tan strap that is a wee favorite ... so i'm vaccilating about buying an auto 'twin' on my pension! - Great review as ever so off to see your other look. Cheers.
Sounds great. Those Vario bunds are really good. I do like the quartz version too.
A beautiful watch 👍👌
It is a handsome watch,I do like it.
Nice piece. I'd wear it on an (not period correct) expander or jubilee bracelet.
Excellent review 👍 I like it, but I prefer the copper coloured quartz version I think.
Its a hard decision to decide which is better.
Reflections from the crystal , not the camera.
Good review, I like it. Most of my watches are vintage and 36mm or less. Biased photography enthusiast here.
Microns were my measuring stick before I retired.
I’m in engineering too, run a company that grinds and supplies steel. We are connected to a gauge making company too so microns are the order of business that and Tho’s “.
I didn’t even realise I sad reflections from the camera! What I meant to say was reflections of the camera in the crystal 😂😂
It’s smaller than I realised but it is absolutely lovely
They are a great watch. On a fine mesh bracelet they stand out even more
Excellent review Mike and a style of watch which always grabs my attention. Again a super opening clip which I'm sure Struss would be proud of (even better if the dial was blue). I was surprised by the variation of results on the time grapher. Are you going to investigate this?
Thanks, the into was a bit of fun and Struss just seemed to fit well with the timing ! as for investigation not yet. It still shows good timing just a weird beat positional error. It could be a bit of gravity playing a part. Had the rate changed in the opposite direction this would be much more concerning. Beat just means in basic terms that the tick is slightly longer than the tock or via versa.
Really like the look of them, especially the black (i think the white might have benefited from being a touch more cream as i think it's a bit too stark for the vintage vibe at the moment)
There are other versions too with a mother of pearl dial. This black one does it for me but the quartz version on my second channel for me at least is equally impressive. Thanks for watching.
....Mike Kubrik intro 😂....a watch odyssey....👍👍👍
It looks quite nice! Is the large crown in keeping with the watch being homaged?
Hi, from what I can see on Google photos it had an equally large crown but does not appear to be an onion one, that said they are practically 100 years old so can all be on "new" crowns by now too.
Great review. Just subscribed. And that watch is a fair homage to the original Rolex mark! I like it a lot. Thanks!
Thank you for subscribing. It’s more watchmaking on this channel than watch reviews. I have another channel for reviews normally.
Pleased your here and enjoy the back catalogue!
No it’s actually resolved. Just took a hell of a long time. If I were them I would just ship the replacement immediately and not wait to receive the original watch
I think Baltany have done a great job here of making a modern automatic chock full of 100 year old design notes. The bezel an crown aren't to my taste, but they do work well in bringing that vintage flavour. We'll have to see how reliable that movement is long term (yes, I'm waiting to see it on the bench) but you can't argue at that price.
I think the movement will be okay. Looks pretty basic and that’s to it’s strength. Less parts to go wrong !
Personally love this watch and looking at what Baltany are making they have other really nice models that if are on a par with these quality wise is a brand to be considered.
Love the mis-registration 3D numerals.
I have to agree!
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I love the numbers and the sub dial. I would prefer all stainless for the case finish. It makes a great dress watch imo.
There are 3 types of this watch , maybe 4. Some are all stainless.
@@MyRetroWatches Choice is always good!
Real nice..
I'd like to see a disassembly and service on that movement.
I want to look at that Seiko style of winding so possibly in the future. Thing is for this channel the project are mounting and I cant see this one being featured for quite some time.
What impresses me is how well the subsecond is balanced on the dial. Like vintage watches that were designed for that arrangement(no centre seconds movements) and unlike a lot of modern homages from the Big Names where the subsecond is just that bit too small and higher up the dial(centre second movements tweaked to have a subsecond).
Funny enough I had an original Rolex Oyster(1928 IIRC) back in the early 90's when they were only a couple of hundred quid. Sold it on when there was a "bubble" in interest in early Oysters in the late 90's. One that subsequently popped... IIRC it was 30 or 32mm. I don't mind a small watch but it looked pretty tiny tbh. Mine had a white dial with Breguet style hands. If it had a dial like this I'd have probably hung onto it. 😄 The crown was still screwdown, but I suspect a later replacement.
Very cool watch this Beltany. Especially at that price. Can't really go wrong. Great review too Sir.👍
Thank you for such a good reply. From what I see on the original Rolex they are in their 1000's now. 36mm is a nice size for this. Plenty of wrist presence but still small enough to look vintage. I love the subdial and its probably why they chose that movement to position it right. Shows some thought was put into its conception which impresses me. I am sure I read in my research the Rolex had a screwdown crown so I am now going to look again as its spiked my interest.
@@MyRetroWatches At that late 90's peak the very early ones were hitting the five figure mark. They got oddly popular very rapidly and then just as rapidly.. Mad how it can go.
The Oysters originally had a screwdown crown alright. Other watches had screwdown type crowns before them and waterproof watches went back to the Tavannes "Submarine" in 1917(which was also the first antimagnetic), but Rolex's innovation was to buy in an existing patent on a screw type crown and add a clutch.
The next problem was how quickly the crown tube wore down with daily winding as materials weren't as good back then, so taking a leaf from Harwood who'd invented the first automatic wristwatch, they came up with their own but with a 360 degree rotor, so you didn't have to unscrew to wind it every day. They're the so called Bubbleback Oysters because the back bulged out to make room for the auto bits and bobs.
Funny enough and contrary to their image in many folk's minds, Rolex are one of the least innovative of the Swiss brands, but the Oyster Bubbleback was a true innovation, mainly by cleverly putting existing ideas together and realising a market existed for it. The fluted bezel on watches like their Datejust today are a nod to the fluted front that screwed the original Oyster crystals in, as are their fluted casebacks.
most mechanical movements are between 26-28mm diameter. in case for subsecond movement, any watches with dial bigger than 29mm will make the subsecond dial placement looks odd.
@@MrGrentch thanks for such a great and detailed reply. I’ve learnt something. I didn’t realise the first autos were in this model too.
great review and a lovely watch , glad they kept it small does it hack ?
Sorry I forgot to mention that! no it does not hack unfortunately.
I like it 👍
Modelled on the wristwatch made for the Czech Air Force in the thirties, the Longines Heritage 1935 was released in 2017. The Baltany looks extremely similar.
You will find this one is homaging the Rolex oyster from 1926. Rolex first attempt at water resistance
@@MyRetroWatchesYou are probably right but it just looks more like the 1935 Longines. 😊
I think the case of the Baltany is very nice, but I can't get along with the rest. We are all different, otherwise we'd only have one perfect watch, (a Speedmaster!😸).
I certainly can see how well made it is and why people would love it. I'd prefer a sixties/seventies Rolex style. Also, It is a tough task to authentically reproduce a face that would have been hand finished and now aged, the patina on a 100 year old watch can be the most delightful thing about it. You can't help but make a tribute to a 1920s watch look modern, even if you try hard. Something is always off.. Or not off, too perfect maybe?
169!!! WOW. Well, that really changes my mind.. I was expecting between 600-800, even though I'd never heard of the brand.. I'll have to have a look at their other styles. The white dial is also much nicer to me too.
Just looks like my rose gold Rolex bubbleback
I used to own an oyster Rolex, as with many watches ive owned i had to sell it but it's one i wish i never sold.. :D
Sorry to hear you had to sell it. At least you can have the flavour of that watch with this new one
This watch is very nice, I don't find the brand name pleasing though, maybe just me, still buyable though.
I've got a watch, the dial, hands and bezel are nearly the same, but it's in a round case. It has a hand wind Tongji movement. No brand name on the dial but the caseback and crown have a logo of a circle and half of the circle looks like sun rays, possibly.
Really like this watch, although I would prefer an NH35.
That would not work. You need a movement with a sub seconds hand position which Seiko does not do. As this is also a smaller watch you need a narrower and thinner movement. This will be the reasons for using the Sea-Gull 1701
Double Wow!
thanks for a Nice rewiew by the way👍🏼
i have one question about chinese watch movement 'Ailang double fyling wheels' which actually have double balance wheels attached by bridges on dial.
does it have an impact to the movement performance? is it negative or positive? thanks in advance
I have absolutely no experience with them, I’ve not had one in hand to see how two balance wheels actually work in unison. Might be something I have to buy one day just to take a look.
@@MyRetroWatches thanks for the answer.. have a great succes!
wauw with that coin bezel awsome and the price come on thats a steal
The bezel is a great feature.
I kind of wish the black one was tinted mother of Pearl..... (The white fish is MOP) it's pretty spectator actually.
Review or make any restoration video on HMT waches please mate 😊.
Love from India🇮🇳 ❤ 🇬🇧
One day I will.
@@MyRetroWatches thank u... ❤
Would you be willing to take a look at my watch and see if u can get it working again. It's kinda a rare one,and might even be "flashy" enough to do a video on. I bought a Casio TGW-10 tri graph. Nothing APPEARS to indicate battery leakage but I also don't feel comfortable enough taking apart the module "sandwich"(I don't know what else to call it)as I am new to "tinkering" on watches. One of the little nubs the battery hold down looks like it may have been broken during a battery change and I'm honestly not sure what size battery even goes in. My plan was to do the polishing of the dial and proudly wear it but now I'm holding off the effort till I know if it will run again.
Looks similar to the watch American scientist J Robert Oppenheimer wore.
So does baltany make these as Quartz, automatic and hand wind, ie all 3 movements?
Would like to know.
Only auto and quartz. Quartz is a different dial. There are many variations.
Baltany just keep cranking out one cool watch after the other. I'll run across a vintage watch and think "🤔 hmmmm I wish we could get those made today" and a year or so later Baltany is cranking them out.
They certainly are picking some good models to tribute.
@@MyRetroWatches I wonder if those little Bulova 21Jewel 7AK "tank" watches will ever make a comeback? No doubt if they do Baltany will be in the forefront.
@@MPiKMS72 maybe they will be reading the comments.
2023 Horology Odyssey.... I think, you like the movie. :) In my opinion such a beautiful watch deserves a better movement, even it causes a higher price....
Haha! Maybe. Yet to know how good this movement will be long term but I would surmise it will be okay.
Nice vintage look, if Fred Dibnah had worn a wrist watch even he would have gone for this :)
Absolutely love Fred! Years ago I ground a massive casting for a steam engine owned by his son.
What makes me laugh now here on UA-cam land is there are reaction videos to his steeplejack work. Usually Americans who can’t get over how crazy it was .
Have a look at Fred Dibnah reactions !😂
@@MyRetroWatches That's a really cool connection and yes I agree Fred was a great character and a brave one.
Born in a different bed Fred would have been an engineering graduate, but would he have achieved what he did?
Dee moist beautiful dee watch I haves ever tine 👌🥂
Think I forgot to post my remarks, this watch looks great, except for the seconds indication, would be nice if they would use the one they used on the quartz watch, without the numbers.. with markings, on top and on the bottom :) My brains can't handle the 60 on top :)
Hi Wim, thanks for watching. I like that extra detail on the subdial as its more in keeping with the original. We all have different tastes and its probably why Baltany have launched a few versions to cater for everyone.
I guess I either got unlucky with this one or their quality control isn't as good as it should be: The watch I received looked great but the time setting did not work reliably. Something was loose in how the crown connected with the time setting position, which made the watch useless as I could not set the time. Manual winding worked fine but not the time setting (second position). To their credit I have to admit that they have been responsive and offered to reimburse me for the cost of shipping the defective watch back to them, which I did. Now I am still waiting for them to get back to me on when they're receiving the watch and sending a replacement. I have bought quite a few watches both preowned and new and have NEVER had a watch arrive DOA like this. Your mileage may vary (and hopefully will!)
Sorry to hear this. I can’t speak for Baltany but they do seem more considerate when I have been dealing with them.
I would have been interested to know what was wrong in the keyless works as ultimately that issue would lie with the manufacturer rather than them but granted receiving something that’s not right is very disappointing.
I hope they come back to you soon. Think they will if they have gone as far as they have. Might take some time getting back to them no doubt
@@MyRetroWatches I'm sure they will. It's just a bit frustrating having to wait this long and going through a return just to get a working watch.
I finally received the replacement watch from them about 2 full months after first making the purchase. It did not help that the Chinese New Year was in the middle. The replacement looks like it won’t have the same issue. I might have been unlucky but the whole thing cooled me down on Aliexpress watches. The prices are amazing but the QC is sub par. Make me wonder how long the watch will last.
@@DotanSaguy sorry to hear of your continued problems, especially from Baltany. Hopefully yours is a one off . The watches I’ve had from them have generally been fine .
Love that face!!
Nice.🍓🍓🍓
not the wrong arm to me,been wearing on th "wrong arm" for 40 years.
Good man, like I said it’s the right arm!!😂😂. Thanks for watching
What type of key you use for remove the caseback?
Sticky ball. Opens just about any case
@@MyRetroWatches great
Do you know what the lug to lug is?
18mm
@@MyRetroWatches I mean the distance from the top lug to the bottom lug.
@@turnbasedtoddy7664 my apologies, 43.3mm
I would think that even this is a homage, its actually better in most ways than the original rolex in reliability and toughness. Even 100m wr.
It’s a homage yes. But as rhetoric originals were mid 1920s I think this sort of copy is fine.
completely agree. very few out there that look like that. Bulova had a model similar a few years ago but a bit larger.@@MyRetroWatches
:)
Meh….Fine review though!
Thanks for watching.
Define "Paid promotion "? Free watch?
Define free? Yes they sent me the watch but I have spent 4 - 5 hours to produce a video using all my equipment, cameras and software that is all paid for with my own money. Time to produce a video is out of my spare time as this is not my job.
I have not sold the watch and the ad revenue for this video is at £15.
So yes the watch is free but is everything else?
@@MyRetroWatches Just asking. I don't believe I implied anything with my question. There are so many channels with similar content it makes me curious about what can be added to the watch conversation. Best regards in your endeavor.
@@rodg2335 fair enough. Some companies send you them others you have to pass onto the next reviewer and some I would just buy.
This was my last watch review on this channel as I now review on a second channel to keep this one all about watchmaking
No thanx, bad guts...
Bad guts? You mean the movement? Are you talking from experience or just because it’s Sea-Gull.
The way I see it is they are working to a budget given how cheap the watch is, they require a thin movement with a sub second function. I’d guess that requirement it’s more limiting. Perhaps Miyota might have a movement but I’d have to check their catalog
Just would rather have non copied stuff. I'd pay the difference for a movement from the developers if its technology....
They do a version without sub seconds on 4hz miyota. On the MOP I think it looks awesome and will pick that one up. Thx for the review. Baltany quality I have found to be amazing for the price…
I find this cheap Chinese copies revolting!!! I rather have a cheap quartz original (current) than any mechanical copy....they are all pretty much useless with time....
I own multiple vintage Omega, Seikos and some Russian watches and I really see no problem when Chinese manufacturers make vintage inspired homage watches. We are talking about watches from the 20s-30s with this Baltany, they are basically not obtainable now and western manufacturers don't revisit these designs. I think it is great that the Chinese keep these designs alive, they look incredible. Also Chinese watches came a long way over the last 10-20 years. They have some 150-300€ watches that rival my new Seikos or Microbrands in quality that cost twice as much.
Mike, we have moved to the east coast, but that watch is bit iffy? Doesn't do it for me bro? You ok ?
Thats fair enough Ian. I was wondering what had happened to you. One day I will join you at the coast mate, living so central can be depressing sometimes.