Thank you so much for sending Maggie's form into the world for third and fourth generation to infuse into a practicing! A blessing to have seen the beauty of her practice.
This video is supposed to be available by purchase only on Vimeo. The money goes to a fund for Maggie. Please consider that. It's a form of income for Maggie's care.
The DVD set was expensive for some people. It hasn't been available for quite a while. The Vimeo offering is everything that was on the disks, which is a couple of hours of content for $50. That seems reasonable considering what you get, and it helps Maggie.
I thank Laura for this. I studied with Maggie in the early '80s. After seeing this video, which is from a Vimeo project I otherwise wouldn't have known about, I immediately went to Vimeo and bought the set. I'm sure I'm not the only one who will do this...just sayin'
I assume that this video was made to clarify the individual movements. It may be that the shape appears rigid and not flowing to the viewer. However, if you look closely, you can see the internal energy work. She is trying to adapt the flow of energy to her extremely slow movements. This requires top mental performance. Only those who have run the form under this premise know how much mental strength this demands. I take my hat off to her!!!
She is doing it correctly. Released and relaxed are not the same. The movements are always done at that speed. The nei chi is what is causing the body to move at all. you can see it pumping through her to create the movements and other physical changes. Its not done by imagining. The energy is generated in the body, by the body and causes physical changes throughout. Look into Damo Mitchell my friend. its clearly explained by him
@@whiteeagle7914Thank you for your interpretation of the energy flow. It's a nice gesture of yours to refer to Damo Mitchell. I'm sure he will thank you for it. He is completely unknown to me. However, I think that at this point you should rather mention the venerable Sifu Cheng Man Ching, his master student and the venerable Sifu William C. C. Chen and their statements on dealing with the energy flow.
@@franz55l51 My tai chi teacher was William C.C. Chen's heavy weight push hands champion. I trained with him every day until he past away. I speak from that perspective. Your interpretation of tai chi is not accurate
This made me feel so nostalgic. I originally studied with students of Chi Chiang Tao and practiced something similair to this. I later trained under Huang Shen Shyan's lineage which helped me personally understand the movements more clearly but I miss the aesthetics of this form. (Please don't read that as condescension! I think I was too dense to experience the subtlety and needed a more paint-by-numbers approach.) Of course Dr Chi and Master Huang studied with Cheng Man Ching.
The HSS system is very hard on the legs but along with the 5 Loosenings helps to go deeper into relaxation and with diligence experience the phenomenon of ….issuing chi without brute force….go well …from NZ
Thanks all the way from NewZealand for this wonderful footage. I had the pleasure of meeting and practising with Maggie and Ken (Van sickle) back in 06' . Awesome how this form has been preserved so accurately over time and space (countries far from each other).
The knee don’t overlap the toes , pivot on your heel , look into the far don’t look down ,straighten the neck like its hanging on the ceiling,relax the pinky finger so the other fingers will be relaxed as well ( relax the thumbs)
With respect to, I can’t agree. The hip, knee, foot alignment is not maintained. The upper body is disconnected from the lower body in certain postures (Brush Left Knee, etc). No evidence of any connective wave of chi from the ground up. The eyes are focused on different parts of the body, she is observing herself rather than experiencing the flow. I submit that she moves at this pace because that is how she has practiced over the years. I’d be interested to see her perform a fast form and to see how she is with partner drills.
The left side screen is mirror image, so all the moves are shown as being done from the wrong side. In other words, left and right are switched. Beginners will only be confused by this. The view from the back is correct. His form is lovely, though.
Beautiful. BTW, Ben Lo (Benjamin Jeng Pang Lo) told my group not to do the form to music. I notice there are videos of him doing the form with music accompaning the video.
@@lauraxism 🙏 Maggie and Ben notoriously never saw things eye to eye. Music however played to the form being demonstrated is still quite different from practicing the form to music. That's not something i ever encountered with Maggie
I have tried to post info on purchasing the Maggie Newman package, but the comments are not showing up. I assume UA-cam isn't allowing them. The posting of this video should be seen as an OPPORTUNITY to help publicize that project, which features more than two hours of excellent interview and demonstration, on social media. If Laura hadn't posted this, I would not have known of its existence. So go buy it, and tell your tai chi friends about it!
@lauraxism That's great. I looked for years to find any video of Maggie. When I decided to buy the DVD set it was no longer available. Then I found the Vimeo listing and jumped at the chance. I'm glad that others will have such easy access. Maggie is a treasure.
thank you , i have the videos but this makes it easier to see them. i was wondering if you are familiar with her sitting exercise? i think i know them but i am not certain of it all.
It's ridiculously slow, albeit with excellent posture etc considering her age. Chen man Ching stated that the form should take between 3 and 5 minutes, I can appreciate a slow form but it's just one tiny facet of an amazing martial art which is rarely taught properly in the West.
I genuinely think this may be a later video than some may initial think. I guess it may even be from the early to mid 2000s? That's pure speculation on my part of course. Maggie is probably mid 70' during the recording?
@@davidryan7386 I don't disagree with that. However, the general attitude leans towards the idea that the slower the form, the better it is. Cheng Man Ching himself stated it should be between 3 and 5 minutes. I'd much rather see a very well controlled form which lasts this duration.
It keeps evading me why people would want to copy Cheng Man Ching's personal style, which in fact is the prime example of being formless. It simply makes no sense. I respect him as one of the greatest, and he was the absolute master of the formless form. People mimicking him just end up being sloppy. That said, the lady is good, but you don't become formless by copying someone else's formless style, that would just make it another form. And by the way, when it looks like he's dead drunk when performing, that's probably because he was.
This a very bad TCC performance by one of the most respected Cheng Man Ching students in USA. What's wrong here? Almost everything and that is the result of almost every student of Professor Cheng never understood the real principles of the art itself!
Tell that to all the CMC students who shut down dojo of other styles in Malaysia. Not fairy push hands but serious confrontational martial arts. You are under informed and speaking nonsense.
@david9180 do some research, the fighting that CMC students were doing in Malaysia at that time was not sport mma but actual life defence. The Wisdom of Taji Masters by Nigel Sutton will alleviate your ignorance.
@david9180 I'm presuming you are somewhat dim, if you have trained with Nigel and fail to understand what he's teaching and has written about then enjoy your views and limited results.
MMA IS GARBAGE. ONLY DEATH MATCHES OR REAL WORLD STREET FIGHTING IS WHERE THE "BEST" IS DECIDED. CMC HAS THE BEST TUI SHOU. AND WHEN FIGHTING YOU USE THE PRINCIPLES OF THE ART NOT TECHNIQUES AS PRACTICED IN THE FORM.
Thank you so much for sending Maggie's form into the world for third and fourth generation to infuse into a practicing! A blessing to have seen the beauty of her practice.
This video is supposed to be available by purchase only on Vimeo. The money goes to a fund for Maggie. Please consider that. It's a form of income for Maggie's care.
Not everyone can afford the disc set. David Geary who made the video has given his approval for it to be uploaded.
The DVD set was expensive for some people. It hasn't been available for quite a while. The Vimeo offering is everything that was on the disks, which is a couple of hours of content for $50. That seems reasonable considering what you get, and it helps Maggie.
@@willowstream I have all that material and more - I only have her form on and I want people to see it.
I thank Laura for this. I studied with Maggie in the early '80s. After seeing this video, which is from a Vimeo project I otherwise wouldn't have known about, I immediately went to Vimeo and bought the set. I'm sure I'm not the only one who will do this...just sayin'
What is the place to donate? What is her situation. I was her student in philadelphia.
Thank you Maggie, with great respect. Always a pleasure being in your company.
So serene, so peaceful; like a dance such an artful form of TaiChi! The music is a great mind clearing accompaniment! Thanks for doing the video!! ❤
I assume that this video was made to clarify the individual movements. It may be that the shape appears rigid and not flowing to the viewer. However, if you look closely, you can see the internal energy work. She is trying to adapt the flow of energy to her extremely slow movements. This requires top mental performance. Only those who have run the form under this premise know how much mental strength this demands.
I take my hat off to her!!!
She is doing it correctly. Released and relaxed are not the same. The movements are always done at that speed. The nei chi is what is causing the body to move at all. you can see it pumping through her to create the movements and other physical changes. Its not done by imagining. The energy is generated in the body, by the body and causes physical changes throughout. Look into Damo Mitchell my friend. its clearly explained by him
@@whiteeagle7914Thank you for your interpretation of the energy flow.
It's a nice gesture of yours to refer to Damo Mitchell. I'm sure he will thank you for it. He is completely unknown to me.
However, I think that at this point you should rather mention the venerable Sifu Cheng Man Ching, his master student and the venerable Sifu William C. C. Chen and their statements on dealing with the energy flow.
@@franz55l51 My tai chi teacher was William C.C. Chen's heavy weight push hands champion. I trained with him every day until he past away. I speak from that perspective. Your interpretation of tai chi is not accurate
I wish you every success on your future Tai Chi path.
This thread wins the Internet Award 2024 for Most Passive Aggressive Comment Thread of the Year
Absolute perfect performance of Cheng Man-Ch'ing short form Taijiquan set. Bravo and respect to you Sifu Maggie 👏
Thank you!
This made me feel so nostalgic. I originally studied with students of Chi Chiang Tao and practiced something similair to this. I later trained under Huang Shen Shyan's lineage which helped me personally understand the movements more clearly but I miss the aesthetics of this form. (Please don't read that as condescension! I think I was too dense to experience the subtlety and needed a more paint-by-numbers approach.) Of course Dr Chi and Master Huang studied with Cheng Man Ching.
The HSS system is very hard on the legs but along with the 5 Loosenings helps to go deeper into relaxation and with diligence experience the phenomenon of ….issuing chi without brute force….go well …from NZ
Ignoring a minor flaw here and there, she has shown that she is committed to the internal flow. Best wishes.
Thanks all the way from NewZealand for this wonderful footage. I had the pleasure of meeting and practising with Maggie and Ken (Van sickle) back in 06' . Awesome how this form has been preserved so accurately over time and space (countries far from each other).
The knee don’t overlap the toes , pivot on your heel , look into the far don’t look down ,straighten the neck like its hanging on the ceiling,relax the pinky finger so the other fingers will be relaxed as well ( relax the thumbs)
Instead of finding faults, be brave and make your own movie and upload it. Jealousy breaks the flow of chi...
Class dismissed
With respect to, I can’t agree. The hip, knee, foot alignment is not maintained. The upper body is disconnected from the lower body in certain postures (Brush Left Knee, etc). No evidence of any connective wave of chi from the ground up. The eyes are focused on different parts of the body, she is observing herself rather than experiencing the flow. I submit that she moves at this pace because that is how she has practiced over the years. I’d be interested to see her perform a fast form and to see how she is with partner drills.
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@@JiangYuShan猴拳門江玉山 ua-cam.com/video/oSI7I2oYcDk/v-deo.htmlsi=NRU_zMJp2KndHauW. - class dismissed
The left side screen is mirror image, so all the moves are shown as being done from the wrong side. In other words, left and right are switched. Beginners will only be confused by this.
The view from the back is correct.
His form is lovely, though.
Beautiful. BTW, Ben Lo (Benjamin Jeng Pang Lo) told my group not to do the form to music. I notice there are videos of him doing the form with music accompaning the video.
😊
i just turn the sound off
music almost certainly added afterwards
Ben was talking about one's own practice not doing form to music
@@normanguberman2192 Maggie chose that music.
@@lauraxism 🙏 Maggie and Ben notoriously never saw things eye to eye. Music however played to the form being demonstrated is still quite different from practicing the form to music. That's not something i ever encountered with Maggie
@@normanguberman2192 We did not practice the form to music with Maggie. That was only for the video.
I have tried to post info on purchasing the Maggie Newman package, but the comments are not showing up. I assume UA-cam isn't allowing them. The posting of this video should be seen as an OPPORTUNITY to help publicize that project, which features more than two hours of excellent interview and demonstration, on social media. If Laura hadn't posted this, I would not have known of its existence. So go buy it, and tell your tai chi friends about it!
Go to Vimeo and use the search box.
Beautifull! Thank you ❤
Our old studio on Broadway?
@@TheDesmonaut Yes
Everybody has a personal interpretation of Tai Ji.
@lauraxism That's great. I looked for years to find any video of Maggie. When I decided to buy the DVD set it was no longer available. Then I found the Vimeo listing and jumped at the chance.
I'm glad that others will have such easy access. Maggie is a treasure.
Is there a vimeo purchase page? I'd like to buy and support. Thanks!
Beauty in Motion
thank you , i have the videos but this makes it easier to see them. i was wondering if you are familiar with her sitting exercise? i think i know them but i am not certain of it all.
Yes, I’m familiar with her sitting exercises involving the sit bones. They were interesting and fun.
Thank you so much for posting this. Do you know when this was shot?
Not 100% sure, but think maybe early 90’s.
What is the music?
That particular piece was made for this video. If you like the music, you could check out Divan Gasparyan - he plays very similar music.
Beautifull music
mesmerizing,
Grazie mille
It's ridiculously slow, albeit with excellent posture etc considering her age. Chen man Ching stated that the form should take between 3 and 5 minutes, I can appreciate a slow form but it's just one tiny facet of an amazing martial art which is rarely taught properly in the West.
It’s not her usual speed. It’s more or less a teaching video. “Considering her age”? How old is she here? Do you know?
I genuinely think this may be a later video than some may initial think. I guess it may even be from the early to mid 2000s? That's pure speculation on my part of course. Maggie is probably mid 70' during the recording?
One should be able to train at many speeds. Esp after decades.
@@davidryan7386 I don't disagree with that. However, the general attitude leans towards the idea that the slower the form, the better it is. Cheng Man Ching himself stated it should be between 3 and 5 minutes. I'd much rather see a very well controlled form which lasts this duration.
@@ambienthuman It’s more like early 90’s.
Yes she very good but take it down if it's funding her welfare
It keeps evading me why people would want to copy Cheng Man Ching's personal style, which in fact is the prime example of being formless. It simply makes no sense.
I respect him as one of the greatest, and he was the absolute master of the formless form. People mimicking him just end up being sloppy.
That said, the lady is good, but you don't become formless by copying someone else's formless style, that would just make it another form.
And by the way, when it looks like he's dead drunk when performing, that's probably because he was.
yikes...you can put that ego back to sleep...sending love and peace to everyone...
This a very bad TCC performance by one of the most respected Cheng Man Ching students in USA. What's wrong here? Almost everything and that is the result of almost every student of Professor Cheng never understood the real principles of the art itself!
Tell that to all the CMC students who shut down dojo of other styles in Malaysia. Not fairy push hands but serious confrontational martial arts. You are under informed and speaking nonsense.
@david9180 do some research, the fighting that CMC students were doing in Malaysia at that time was not sport mma but actual life defence. The Wisdom of Taji Masters by Nigel Sutton will alleviate your ignorance.
@david9180 I'm presuming you are somewhat dim, if you have trained with Nigel and fail to understand what he's teaching and has written about then enjoy your views and limited results.
MMA IS GARBAGE. ONLY DEATH MATCHES OR REAL WORLD STREET FIGHTING IS WHERE THE "BEST" IS DECIDED. CMC HAS THE BEST TUI SHOU. AND WHEN FIGHTING YOU USE THE PRINCIPLES OF THE ART NOT TECHNIQUES AS PRACTICED IN THE FORM.
agree
Stagnant