2005 C4500 FIXING WHAT GM & MONROE SCREWED UP!PT1
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- Опубліковано 4 кві 2023
- THIS IS GOING TO UPSET A LOT OF FOLKS BUT HERE IS THE REALY....THIS TRUCK HAS NEVER HAD THE POWER AND TOQUE THAT A TRUCK THIS SIZE SHOULD. IT DOESNT TOW WELL. FUEL MILEAGE IS AWFUL. THE MONROE DUALLY BED IS MADE POORLY. THE OUSTSIDES ARE FIBERGLASS AND WAVY. THE BED IS TOO HIGH FOR ANY PRACTICAL USE. I AM ALWAYS WATCHING MY TRAILER DOESNT SMASH THE TOP RAILS WHEN I HAVE A GOOSENECK OR 5TH WHEEL HOOKED UP. THE BED MOUTING SUB FRAME WAS CONFUSING TO ME. SOLID MOUNTED IN THE CENTER AND A SINGLE RUBBER MOUNT FRONT AND BACK. THE TRUCK RIDES AWFUL. THE "LINK" REAR AIR SUSPENSION ENGINEERING AND GEOMETRY COULD HAVE BEEN DONE SO MUCH BETTER. USED THE FACTORY BUMP STOPS AND A SHORT AIR BAG. THIS LEFT LIMITED TRAVEL. THE TRUCK WAS CONSTANTLY BOTTOMING OUT ON THE BUMP STOPS. SHORT AIR BAG WITH LIMITED TRAVEL REQUIRES MORE AIR PRESSURE TO KEEP IT FROM BOTTOMING OUT....MORE AIR PRESSURE IS A ROUGHER RIDE. THE BRAKE WARNING SYSTEM ON THESE TRUCKS IS A CONSTANT ISSUE. THE BRAKES THEM SELVES ARE GOOD AND HANDLE A LOADED TRAILER WELL.
SO HERE WE GO....WE ARE GOING TO BUILD THE TRUCK THAT GM SHOULD HAVE! THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY LONG VIDEOS SERIES AND TAKE AN EXTREMELY LONG TIME TO COMPLETE. IT WONT BE CHEAP BUT IT WILL BE WHAT I NEED AND WANT THE TRUCK TO BE. THE BIG QUESTION STILL REMAINS......IS IT ALL WORTH IT? - Розваги
You mentioned that you were fixing everything that GM did wrong, from what I can tell you are putting it back to what GM originally built and the secondary vendor messed up. I have a 05 5500 ex U haul truck with the gas motor. This truck has been the best purchase that I have ever made, after cutting the frame and adding a 16 foot flat bed it performs great every time I use it.
I’m glad to see you making the the truck you need rather going to buy what someone else is trying to sell, that is what got you to this spot in the first place. Good luck!
keep watching. you will see what i mean by fixing everything gm did wrong. the old uhaul c5500's are very capable trucks for a gas engine. i would say far better than the only other available truck its size at that time which was a ford f450 v10. dont misunderstand, the cab is why i bought the truck....the rest of it was not what i wanted. i knew if i bought it and kept it long enough, i would be doing this build.
@@j.c.smithprojects as you mentioned the cab space and how high it sits on the road helps with visibility, I weigh in at 12,500lbs unloaded that makes a big difference with handling when hauling on the truck or with a trailer. Good luck with the build!!
JC, I always enjoy hearing you break things down like you did with everything on this truck. Can’t get enough of your builds man! 👍
JC…. just do it the way you want it done. I’ve always enjoyed the videos that you’ve been posting. This is just as good as your previous videos. Thanks so much for sharing and being so honest about everything that you’ve done to this point.
Always a treat to watch your vlog's, I called my brother to let him know that you are starting a new project. I gotta say that I enjoy that my brother and I can talk because I am much older than he is and until I started watching your platform we didn't talk all that much. But over the past 3 years we talk after ever episode now. And I thank you for that brother. As always sending blessings from my family up here in the foothills of Mt Rainer, Washington state.
wow......i dont think there is a better compliment a man could get. bringing brothers together over trucks......life is good!
I am super excited to see this build. I always learn so much from you. I also enjoy that you are so detailed oriented and things matter to you. Thanks for bringing this type of project to your channel.
it the lack of attention to details that made this truck wrong.
I love that you and your wife work well together. It’s definitely a match made in heaven ❤
Hi JC. I’m going to enjoy this build, I’m sure this truck will be awesome when your done.
Build? This is NOT a Build...damn
Great video J.C.Smith this truck is going to be an interesting build. Looking forward to your next video on this truck stay safe Mr & Mrs J.C.Smith.
Dear J.C. Smith projects family.
👍👌👏 Uuuuh, this is very interesting. Selling all those very special parts will give you a lot of budget to build what you really want/need/like. This double cab dually pickup truck is definitely bigger than I thought it is.
I'm eagerly looking forward to watch the next part of the series. Please nevertheless don't forget Misses Smith's micro dump truck.
Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing.
Best regards, luck and especially health to all of you.
Ready to see this build. Have a great evening, JC and Mrs Smith.
Making that truck work for you will definitely be a great series to watch. Thanks
That's how we do nothing is perfect for everyone. We buy something that is close enough in the important ways and then fix what's broke.
This will be so interesting to watch! Looking forward to upcoming episodes!
Also, as a european (living in Sweden) this is highly exotic. The american car/truck fleet is completely different from what we have here. A truck/pickup of that size is nothing we have here.
I'm glad I found your channel. I have an 04 C4500 and its fun to drive
The day my last 4500-8500 series GM got sold was a great day for me. I agree with you on the Duramax, the crappy GM van interior and the lousy wiring harness and ABS/brake wiring. The weight was a problem for me trying to run them commercially and legally- my 03 Duramax dump had a 16k GVWR and a curb weight of just over 13k with a driver- so it was pretty useless if you wanted to run legal. Looking forward to the series!
i promise you....this will not be useless when i am done.
That truck looks so much better without the back on it! Can’t wait to see this series!
Mr JC Looking forward to this project. Thanks for sharing and stay safe
nice to see you here mr. hal.
Looking forward to the build J.C. I’m in the same boat as you, Duramax isn’t my first choice when it comes to diesel. Hopefully when your done with it you’ll be able to enjoy it a little more cause the truck has a lot of potential to be the perfect hauler. Take care.👍
Hey JC ,Love the videos, they remind me of the days that I loved playing in my garage. I have my wood shop! But I enjoy see what can be done with the big truck stuff.REGARDS BOB LEE
i love wood work as well. i use to build my own kitchen cabinets, my own 6 panel doors, and more. i have all my equipment in storage as i have a not set up a workshop here.
Lol you’ve made it clear how much you dislike this truck
Right almost flat out hates that truck
Ain’t he tho 😂
Yeah, but he loves it enough to make you pay him to trade your stuff with his. I mean, is it quality or junk?
This going to be a very interresting series one of my brothers has a truck just like it .i am going to get him watch this! I do really enjoy watch someone do projects that done correctly
So fired up for this video series. I have the same truck with about the same list of likes and dislikes. Can’t wait to see what you come up with.
its going to hurt some feelings im sure.
@@j.c.smithprojects now I KNOW I'm going to like this series!!
I think it's a cool truck but I know your gonna do something even better. Definitely gonna be looking forward to this series
I'm always leery of aftermarket upfitters. The quality is usually pretty shoddy. At the dealership I work for, we got a couple Express conversion vans through that were done by Explorer. Seems like everything was held in place with self tapping sheetmetal screws. The exhausts didn't clear the plastic fenders, so they ended up melting them(added tips to remedy it). Also had to move the anchors for a cooler because it wouldn't latch. I feel bad for whoever has to work on them down the road.
agreed.
I’m super excited about this build. I love these trucks but goodness I never knew about them like you did.
Great video.Can’t wait for the following build videos
Nice build .looking forward to your next video .
Thanks for sharing 👍
Hey J.C., really looking forward to this build series. Just picked up a c4500 in the last couple weeks so timing was perfect. Looking for a new set of mirrors if you have any leads or good places to buy. Budget conscious of course. I’m in ont Canada.
What an enjoyable start, looking forward to seeing your ideas take shape. So interesting.
I really like that "C" style cab that GM made. It's comfortable how you set up tall and can see out easily. I'm with you 100% about ditching the Duramax. Enjoyed the video very much JC 🙂👍
Howdy friend !!
😁
Keep up your hard work, the misses too. I enjoy your videos
Can’t wait bring on the videos ! Thanks for sharing!
I love watching professionals work
Thanks for filming this conversion. Wow, that truck was nothing more than a street cruiser. They took the truck out of it.
hello jc & mrs smith its is randy and i like yours video is cool & good jc & mrs smith 2005 c400 fixing and gm ,,,,,,, and i hope can seen the truck to the end . ( me color is candy apple red paint ) and the best luck with the v4500 gm thanks jc and mrs smith friends randy
Should be an awesome build , love your videos and thanks for sharing
Nice project JC, make it what you want I’m sure going to watch 👍👍
So I’m guessing your gonna add side tanks for the gas? Like a semi truck
Keeping it to myself rather than open my mouth and prove I am a idiot... but think your doing the right thing as well and kinda know what your intentions are JC... this is no kids job but glad to see some more of this welder you acquired
Hi i have the same truck have some same issues but im going to keep the truck and remove the wrecker style flatbed from Monroe and put a stock box on if i can find one just for crusin around in a big pickup , have you seen any for sale on you rounds could use some help locating one Thanks Bp
I have a Monroe bed and willing to trade for the flatbed.
looking forward to the build. As always, it's going to be great.
Can’t wait to see what you do with it
I'm actually surprised you still have it 😂
Great video.....man I can't wait to see the transformation on this already bad a♤♤ rig!
Is it possible to move the axle forward on these trucks and just use the stock cross-member mounts? I wanna shorten a 5500 u-hual truck and im wondering how hard that would be for someone in their driveway.
i have done a tone of axle moves on trucks. did the first 10 or so with a cordless drill and drill bits from 1/4" up to 5/8". drilling in steps. in hindsight, i would have rented a magnetic base drill. it would have saved so much time and is much easier on the body.
I hope you have a stampede buyers waving cash to relieve you of all the unwanted parts, get them all out of your way. I am very interested in what you will repower it with. Thanks for all the great videos.
We are definitely not Duramax fans either. Looking forward to more of the series.
Looking forward to seeing the next video on this project
I'm anxious to watch this build.
Wasn't at all surprised to see "part 1" in the title!
I've installed a ton of Link lift axles, and they are designed well. That air ride system is not.
A Kelderman is a much better design, but for your use, the OEM leaf suspension will be better.
Also anxious to see the UA-cam armchair fabricators come out of the woodwork during the frame modifications !!!
Wondering if you can start a betting series on what power plant you will use ??? 😁
i doubt anyone will guess all the different engines i am considering.
@@j.c.smithprojects years ago a friend put an air cooled Deutz diesel in a Chevy square body crew cab.
But he was a Deutz tractor dealer.
Looking forward to the 15 liter swap! 😉
hahaha!!
Love these builds!
Nice you got me with this one boss👍👍🛠🛠
Of course I like this BIG TIME! And I’m along for this C4500 journey.
Looking forward to this build!
i have a 2008 4500 i like it i dont drive everyday with it it does not have a bed but i ended up putting one of thoes flat bed units on it with the hole for the goose hole i like it its 8 ft wide 12 ft long going to lowes or homedepot is a breeze to load also can fit 6 pallets up there i dont have the monroe conversion so the seats are that like that vinyl but i got one of thoes beds for the back seat, i also have the link air ride but a completely different kit mine is a arm from in front of rear axle to under the axle with u bolts and a good year bag in the back definitely works well it was a x ambulances so it was for that i assume for loading people, my frame is 11.5 feet behind the cab so i have the 12 foot flat bed
In manufacturing we were taught not to ever use old or torqued out bolts or screws because they were somewhat damaged because of their previous use, and to always use new ones. What are your thoughts on this?
agreed. i will not reuse bolts or nuts in many applications. i sometimes reuse them in situations that are not critical.
@@j.c.smithprojects Thanks, I appreciate your videos.
Hello from the Netherlands.
thanks for the video JC.
Sincerely Hollandduck
What kind of batteries do you use in your Milwaukee tools? I have had nothing but bad luck with after market ones so do you purchase Milwaukee’s on brand?
i have been using milwaukee tools for about 5 years now and have not had to replace one battery.
@@j.c.smithprojects thank you for the response
Subscribed!!! Can’t wait to see this build hopefully you going cummins😂😂😂
Good stuff Mr, Mrs Smith, as always👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Seeing how you like things built I can understand disassembling this General Motors product. You got to build it the way you like it cuz you'll never buy it the way you want it. I've never had the expertise of doing that but I like it.
This is going to be awesome! Can we see more on that f-100 in the garage also? Is it a 56? Can’t see the windshield lol.
its a 53. video will come later.
Did you notice the wet spot on the rear fuel line thank you from Australia for this interesting project
yep
@@j.c.smithprojects iff I had have waited I would have known the tanks were going I am looking forward to the build as it will turn out like all the others you have done excellent
I always wanted one of those trucks but after your thoughts I agree
I had this C4500 Kodiak Monroe lowered version. The brakes were excellent, the turning radius fantastic but the ride was horrible as it was stock springs all around. Whish it had the air-ride suspension but I don't know if it ever came in a lowered option. I loved the look but the ride was rough.
Would a flat bed solve your issues with the bed?
What is an average cost to change a fuelpump on 2004 explorer eddie bower suv 4.6 v8 no dipestich transmission
I had a 05 c4500 4x4 reg cab dump body but always wanted a crew cab 4x4 with the monroe bed .
I just sold my 05 c4500 had a 8.1 with a Allison bucket truck 180k . Made a few bucks and passed it on . Your truck is nice maybe a good dump truck
few people want a crew cab dump. might be an even harder sell.
@@j.c.smithprojects in Brooklyn lots of crew cab dump trucks , especially the roofers .
i could see why that would be popular there.
At 10:52. Cell phone on tire.
Reminds me of one of my personal don’ts never set ANYTHING of value on a bumper, on top of car or anywhere it would fall off.
I think U R doing a great justice getting rid of & cleaning house of all the sub-par components. Never would have guessed how poorly Monroe built this. Good luck & thank you for sharing. How is the super long Pete project coming together?
we are waiting on a few more parts right now. once we have them, it will be full steam ahead. untill then, we need to continue to make progress on other work.
It is time to make yourself happy and all that includes. I will not miss any of your upcoming videos.
Nice looking old Ford in your garage, I’m thinking a rollback in this build? Take care and stay healthy
the plan changes daily.
I luv the look of these trucks personally. I would maybe be interested in that front tank if it is bigger than 22 gallons.
i will look but i think the rear is 20 and the front is around 34?
If you don’t mind, how much did you end up selling the Bed for?
If I recall, you’ve never liked Duramax engines. What was it about this truck that you liked when you originally bought it?
like i said in the video, the cab height and room is like no other. i had 3 of these identical trucks at 1 time. this one, one with a western hauler bed and one with a semi 5th wheel on an 84" cab & chassis ( i sold this one but still have two.)
How tall is the frame rails for the chassis
i think they are 8 5/8" tall
One more PRO to the C4500 or C5500 is the tight turning radius. The steer wheels are far from the centerline and can turn sharper
Nice project, I have a 06 5500 and it is nice that the trailer doesn't push it around. I'd like to talk about your seats if their not spoken for. Jimmy
they are still available.
@@j.c.smithprojects do you have another public social platform that I could send you my phone number?
j.c.smithprojects@gmail.com
I just wanted to be the 900th person to say your ruining that truck! Nope it's yours do with it how you want!!! Love the content!
those people had their chance to own it but they never ponied up the cash. now it is going to tow and ride like a truck really should.
Never could see the use of a regular pick-up bed,especially on a truck that heavy. I'm sure you'll have that suspension worked out too !
plan has changed hundreds of times before i started this project.....im sure it will change that many times or more during the build.
What does it weigh? My 2006 F450 2wd weighs 9100# with its hauler bed and no fuel tank on the bed.
Thank God you got rid of that stupid bed I have a simple flatbed on my 4500 4x4 I love it
Do you still have any of the removed parts off this truck? I do have the dark interior if you still want to trade interiors. I’ll buy tank and other parts as well
Still need a dark interior. bed and air suspension are gone. factory tanks are available
Looking forward to this Jc ..
I am surprised about the clearance issues with the bed I can only assume it was designed for towing a fifth wheel camper to be used by someone with too much money. This will be interesting.
consider the source.....bad judgement and engineering all around.
Can't wait to see the videos on this project! What engine are you putting in?
Undecided at the moment.
@@j.c.smithprojects Understandable. I was thinking a nice CAT or cummings would go nicely in there. ;) I am looking forward to the suspension design as well. What was there is pretty primative and not well thought out as you demonstrated.
plus it was a rigid steel beam. most o.e. air suspensions still used a leaf spring to help absorb the road.
@@j.c.smithprojects Seems like they just did a quick and dirty design and charged dearly for it.
Might be interested in those amplifiers and/or whatever other audio equipment you take off if you're willing to ship it to the east coast.
i can ship it anywhere as long as you want to pay the shipping.
How much of the interior do you have left I'm looking to customize my 5500 and I have the dark gray inside with air ride seats
its all complete. no on has had a nice factory interior to swap plus cash on their end.
@j.c.smithprojects1769 I can email you some pics when I get back in town and just let me know if your interested now even if you don't want my interior how much would you be willing to sell that interior for and mine also has a flatbed with 4 tool boxes on it if you would be interested in that cuz I'm looking for an actual bed to put on it which it sucks you already got rid of it
j.c.smithprojects@gmail.com
Bought mine new in 07 with a Western haulers body. Ran the piss out of it hauling new f550's to Wyoming from ohio. Got rid of it last year, made money.
It's gonna be well worth it when finished
I just picked up a 2008 5500 from a construction company. It's dirty as hell inside, but it's the color you're looking for (cloth seats). The drivers seat air ride system is deflated... I haven't gotten to it yet. The panels are all broken. But I'm interested in your seats if you've still got them. How can I get in contact with you?
i need the complete interior with good door panels.
@@j.c.smithprojects Do you still have the seats? If so, are interested in selling outright? All my stuff is trashed.
I like the plan for this truck so far. A pickup truck bed on a 4500 cab and chassis never made sense to me. Probably why trucks like this are non-existent in my area.
the pickup bed is a yuppy toy....not for the working man.
This is gonna be awesome
I'm ready for this,I got my snacks and drinks
I was just scrolling looking to see if I missed this Here we go
this will likely be one of the biggest and longest builds i have done. i have been planning this for years. hopefully i can stay close to my budget.
That truck was done in my style!!😎
Dude I never listen to the radio either I’m always focused on listening to the truck
I owned a commercial truck and trailer manufacturing facility for 28 years . I hated when a customer would tell us they were bringing us a Monroe to put a trailer on !
What is your opinion the best diesel engine your favorite i agree with u on Duramax
" best diesel engine" is too vague. i would only go by "best diesel engine for the application". it certainly isnt any v8!
Yea well I guess best pick up truck and then best med duty I think med for me would be older dts and as far as v8 I don’t mind most Powerstroke and of course 6.7 Cummins
i am not a fan of any v8 diesel. love ford trucks but will take a cummins over any.
Like the cab and chassis engine sucks though! Getting tough to find parts for these
One I love this truck. It needs a 4x4 conversion. I love it.
i dont need 4x4 in this truck.
Had a brand new 2006 4500 2wd with the diramax st the first place I worked , it had a dump body and with a load on it rode awesome nit empty it was a buckone broncos