Cheap Sound Quality Car PART 4 - Sound proofing
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I’m on a two week vacation right now. After spending the day at the beach I’m Sitting by the fire pit drinking a Blue Moon beer while watching PSsound.👍
Be thirsty, my friend! Enjoy, Blue moons are yummy !
I used that in a Dodge colt 32 years ago. Great on the floor but no glue on it. Best I have used.
I just restored an old Army Pick Up truck with a new LS V8 engine and interior and I about duplicated what you guys did before I even saw this video. A lot of it is common sense once you understand Kenetic/Aucistic energy. My truck is a 86 Chevy K30 with104mm Side pipes and I was really worried it would be very annoying or terrible to drive longer distances but thanks to all the sound proofing, even my girlfriend approved and she can get annoyed quickly 😂. My insulation job was more with engine/road noise in mind and to keep cool in the summer since this old truck is a big Tin can. Keep up the great Work Peter !
I can see you guys are putting a lot of effort into these recent vids......its apparent....great stuff
even though I know you always put a lot of effort into your vids....just saying.....this channel is a treasure
This video makes me feel good about my install now. Took the same approach with my car in regards to soundproofing and materials used but still see where I can improve. Thank you for these videos!!!
find someone who looks at you the same way as peter looks at edy :))))
Whatever that means.. 😃
@@pssound9749 told you some random Romaninan guy will figure it out, way too obvious. 😂
Vasile Mihaita, instead of...not so hetero jokes, you'd better have a word with Peter, he's in Hungary now, cross the border and have a listen to a proper system
@@eduard.c.ionescu i would go happily but i have a project now, a ford ranger from 2019 with hybrid audio unity and esx procesor plus full sound deadening, so no free time.
Did pretty much the same thing on my last car. Except I had dash out and did the full firewall. Also bought the quietest tyres I could source. Took me around 6 months of 2 to 3 hours a day after work, and weekends. Thinking about it now brings back some horrific memories :)
Don't under estimate how much time and money it takes to do this properly.
Nice video Peter. Will be interesting seeing the measurement results 👍
O wait that isn't butyl rubber my bad
Acoustically speaking there is "Attenuation" of say,, an auto's panel resonance. . And there's the "blocking" of noise (frequency dependant of course) . Mass Loaded Vinyl cab be flexible but almost always heavy ....
Enjoyed viewing your work.
FYI for anyone watching this, Nick did launch his lead CCF sammich product already- Resonix is the name of his company for sound deadening
Yes, i’ve mentioned his product, it’d be nice to have, but i have a feeling that due to weight, it’ll never make it over the pond.
@@pssound9749 pretty much... Shipping would be intense. I'm assuming the same goes for straight Resonix or hell... Any product that is US Only huh? I thought I heard him talking about setting up an EMEA distributor but no idea how that went
Quite thorough👍 I'm working on mine in the scion. It's not cheap to do it correctly but it will definitely be worth the efforts. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!
Fine work by Eddie, can't complain about workmanship but I didn't see any boot door damping. I saw a video of a guy testing damping on wheel arch cladding and he recorded 2-3dB reduction in road noise at highway speeds.
Great vid Peter. I can 100% recommend sound treatment. I did this to my car... under estimated just how much work is involved !!! ... took me 6 weeks and added 100 Kg to the weight of the car, but the cabin is now totally silent inside.... if you have the $ and the time, is well worth doing :)
Great Video Peter. Thanks for teaching us a little of your knowledge. I will start to proof my door panels soon and this is very helpfull :)
Thank you for sharing this content. It is really appreciated
Awesome sound proofing… would love to have this done on my car!! Great video…
It’s not hard brother…. Even the sound deadening from Amazon works good. You don’t need Dynomat or anything with a big brand name. Even the doors trunk and cabin floors make a HUGE difference!! Get a buddy to help and you’ll get it done in a day.
Good luck getting something like this done in a day! You maybe looking at a week if done properly to this level!
@@pssound9749 I was talking about what I suggested he do.lol. Just the doors, trunk floor and the front floor panels. Him and a buddy “Should” get it done in a day, likely a weekend, I was being optimistic. I don’t want people looking at this work and thinking it’s impossible to do.
I like to try to encourage people to get their hands dirty and not be intimidated. and yes, this job would likely take over a week.
It a big job.
It takes me a day to do one door. All openings I cut and rivet aluminum too the door frame. If I get a chance, I’ll post pics in the FB Group.
I'm wondering what the life expectancy of these materials is. Surely eventually it will break down and need to be replaced? What's the likelihood of developing rust under the first layer?
Great video ! Thanks ! Watching from France. What was the budget for deadening ? Stunning job, might invest in that.
Probably around £500. Now with the trunk already built, system playing, it makes a massive difference.
Be cool to have someone like you do some testing with different brands and varieties of sound deadener. You might try EMF audio's 160 mil sound deadener. You can get online, he ships worldwide.
Nick @Apicella Auto Sound has done test.
Personally i have no time for it.
@@pssound9749 Cool thanks for the info. Have you heard of CDT Audio? They have some very sexy speakers. Love the vids! Thanks again!
I been using liquid butyl rubber and lead flashing on floors..
Love it.
thanks for part 4...
How about the sound proofing on the fender part?
Excellent! im waiting for test on road !!
I´ve the same engine but Ford , my soundproofing took me 5 days of my holidays ( 8 hours at day) but i never end it at all ( i only applied alubutyl)
Do you know Kaiflex products Peter ?? It is well known in caravans, what u think about?
Greetings
No, unfortunately i don’t know that brand, but if it bonds well and adds weight, then it can work fine.
Had done the same thing with my lancer in dubai
*Nice work, it will be a car compétition ?*
Who knows, not impossible.
I don't believe I have much hope to stop resonating door panels in my SUV. Each door holds a Stereo Integrity TM65 midbass. 150 watts to each driver makes them boogy.
Doors always suck! Some of them are alright, but they can never be as rigid as an enclosure or a kick build with rigid mounting.
What's the brand of mlv used here ? There is no link on the description.
I have a question about roof panels. Do you recommend using butyl damping mat followed by a MLV + CCF sandwich on the roof panels or is butyl and CCF sufficient without the MLV?
There is no road noise coming through the roof, so there is no need for MLV, plus good luck fixing it up there, pretty much impossible! 😃
8:17 need stp heatshild mat
What type of foam is the egg crate foam? Open cell or closed cell? How does it handle water in the doors?
Don’t use in inside of the doors, only on the doorcards on the cabin side.
I used Focal Bam in my car, by itself. Im starting to think ive made a mistake 🙃😅
Did you MLV the door also?
Hi, no, we had no MLV on the doors, just what’s shown in the videos, check part 3. too.
What would you recommend I'm in the USA for sound proofing
Probably added 200pounds! It'll be slow but sound great!!!
Yeah probably around 120lbs, but who cares about speed when it’s already a slow car? 🤷🏻♂️
How much weight does this level of soundproofing add?
Roughly 40kg.
Thanks for the reply. I was concerned about adding too much weight to my 507, but I think that's reasonable.
Would the foam sound absorber be better on the outer door skin inside the door? As most mids play into the cavity.
Reather than on the door card?
Adding mass to a door card isnt that jusy a waste as it wont flex/drum like metal?
Absorber is definitely needed on the doorcard for isolation of hard surfaces to minimise buzz & rattle.
It’s always worth to add to the doorcard too if it’s made of cheap plastic as even if you have no speaker in the door, the bass in the cabin is gonna make it come alive, shake, vibrate and rattle. Extreme end of the treatment would be fibreglass & lead shot on the back of it.
Inside the cavity you use CCF too & black hole tiles, which are available in US.
Would you pls spell the damping you have used, (the hard one which used first in this video)
This is what’s between the foam layers:
www.pssound.co.uk/shop/p/dodo-barrier-mlv-large-sheet
@@pssound9749 Thanks, I am from India. I will buy locally and fix in my car
how is the MLV actually mounted? does it have an adhesive backing or spray adhesive?
Generally you see people use super strong Velcro for MLV/CCF combos- idk what Peter used here
MLV on the floor you don’t need anything. On vertical sides you can use velcro. In this one we just squashed it in as we had so many different layers.
Shouldn't this vinyl deaden resonance ?the one with the aluminium foil
Your question is not too clear, but if it’s about the MLV, then no, that doesn’t resonate as it has CCF on both sides.
@@pssound9749 shouldn't the MLV be sufficiently heavy to cut out the resonance if so what is the need of butyl damping that was done previously.
@@bablusonavne384 The aluminum/buttyl product is fully adhered to the panels and therefore stops resonance. Mass loaded vinyl is floating on the foam baking and is designed to block incoming noise. Two different products but designed to work together
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I need to buy a new car so I can build another system.
Sound proofing looks soiled.
How much weight in total do you reckon all this treatment has added to the vehicle?
Hi, roughly 45-50kg.