They did wpotc dirty,they have so many wrongs in battle and raven's soul hax doesnt always work and her exploding needed to absorb some collective conciousness and they ignored that wpotc can always outsmart and predict raven and would defeat her like Z and wanda battle which disagreed too
They also forgot to mention that Mr.Mixaplex one shot triogon a few panels after the one they showed, he was just playing around, dodging his hellfire then instantly defeated him when threatened Superman….and even then that was an injustice comic which isn’t usually considered part of DC Comics canon. Also they failed to mention that her fight with unbound spectre was taken massively out of context, Jim Corrigan actually jumped inside the spectre and began to weaken his will to fight, and even then Corrigan stated that Pirrah had weakened the spectre beforehand
They also claim that the Unkindness form was all Raven's power, which in reality is a combination of the Four Riders of the Apocalypse, the power of Shazam, the Seven Deadly Enemies of Man, and the Lords of Chaos. Truly a pathetic episode.
Fr like they stay using none cannon stuff remember that jinx vs Harley Quinn battle they fr gave jinx a fake durability feat from the wild rift trailer when in lore she has no durability feats like that 😭
@@Viyan51Even in Akuma Vs Shao Kahn where they scale Kahn to a non-canon Fatality and used non-canon endings to scale him, while downplaying Akuma. Edit: Same with Cammy Vs. Sonya
What pissed me off the most about this fight was how openly dishonest it was. "Raven even held off an attack by Unbound Spectre!" I've read that comic, and in literally the very next panel, Raven is on the ground, borderline unconscious, thoroughly defeated and unable to defend herself. She held off Spectre for one entire second. That's not grounds to scale. Between that and the complete misrepresentation of Unkindness, this is one of the few episodes that isn't just inaccurate; whoever did the research was actively lying, whether intentionally or just out of laziness.
That and the Tiger God "fight", the several Beyonder encounters (even defeating him once by overloading him with an universe worth of emotions something Raven is extremely weak to) and MYSTERIUM--an X-Men discovered and utilized antimagic metal, powerful enough to take out Dormammu, found in the WHITE HOT ROOM. Damn It Death Battle 🤦
I love Raven.. but White Phoenix if the Crown massively stomps her in the white hot room..Raven has no chance.. Even if her soul cannot be destroyed.. the phoenix would just imprison her for all eternity in the WHR.. total win for the phoenix..
Maybe, but the Unkindness is an alternative future timeline version of a composite Raven wielding the powers of the Four Riders, Shazam, the Seven Deadly Sins & the Lords of Chaos. Not an accurate depiction of Raven's individual power. It's not like she can summon these entities and forcibly take their powers.
@@user-td2jw9ze2c So! The match was Phoenix vs Raven not Phoenix vs Unkindness. They didn't give Lex the Omega Effect or Apex Predator form, they didn't give Batman the Morbius Chair or the Yellow Lantern Ring, they didn't give Storm Stormcaster, so why give Raven the Four Riders & the power of SHAZAM & the Seven Deadly Sins & the Lords of Chaos
True that. Just judging direct feats: Raven is universal at best, while Phoenix is unquestionably multiversal at base. The numbers don't lie but ScrewAttack does.
@@sukunamaster😂😂 Raven, no joke, 😂, and the Phoenix Force is so powerful that beings who already see the omniverse as a microbe like the Beyonders and the Living Tribunal are insignificant compared to the Phoenix Force, Jean Gray is the most powerful character that has appeared in DeathBattle by far and even then he lost against another character who doesn't make it past Multiversal+ xd. The worst vs by far anyone who says otherwise doesn't know shit about comics.
This was a lot of BS cux wpotc calling on for help and strength in the white hot room and raven has no feats to take over a realme that is creation it's self 😭
Not saying I disagree, Phoenix is obviously stronger then raven but mixing pre retcon and post retcon beyonder statements is pretty disingenuous….. not like millions of times greater than the multiverse means much when stronger being live outside it
This great videos 👍👍👍. Jean grey and lot characters other characters are my favorite characters. Everyone have great day and weekend and next week and full happiness 😊❤.
6:06 doesn’t that look like disintegration to you 6:49 Yeah, that’s all that’s relevant. Raven isn’t fighting the Phoenix force itself, she fought the host Jean grey. This why I wish the title was Jean grey vs Raven. 9:07 someone forgot how big the dc multiverse actually is.
People are so butthurt over this that they let Phoenix's loss cloud their judgement. And it's not even Screwattack, it's ROOSTER TEETH. Rooster Teeth bought out Screwattack in 2016. I guess MediaMarvel and all of you missed the memo on that.
Jean in the Hot White Room was able to kill Beyonder, God of Stories Loki who can change the storylines, wolverine as the host of the Phoenix was able to stop a wave that would destroy Omnivores and marvel comics, when raven was fighting with Spectre she wasn’t even alone, she made a deal with the king of hell Nekron who was also very powerful magic user 😂😂😂
@@Animeaddictionyeah jean in the White Hot Room killed Beyonder, God of Stories Loki , and when raven was fighting with the Specte she made a pact with Nekron to trick Specte….
In recent comics it was said that the Phoenix can bound to the soul of its hosts,and she destroyed the Dormammu using the Misturium that is like poison to magic users 😂😂😂😂
They did wpotc dirty,they have so many wrongs in battle and raven's soul hax doesnt always work and her exploding needed to absorb some collective conciousness and they ignored that wpotc can always outsmart and predict raven and would defeat her like Z and wanda battle which disagreed too
They fr did Wanda dirty and plus Wanda probably manipulation is supper strong and could counter a lot of zatanna spells
They also forgot to mention that Mr.Mixaplex one shot triogon a few panels after the one they showed, he was just playing around, dodging his hellfire then instantly defeated him when threatened Superman….and even then that was an injustice comic which isn’t usually considered part of DC Comics canon.
Also they failed to mention that her fight with unbound spectre was taken massively out of context, Jim Corrigan actually jumped inside the spectre and began to weaken his will to fight, and even then Corrigan stated that Pirrah had weakened the spectre beforehand
They also claim that the Unkindness form was all Raven's power, which in reality is a combination of the Four Riders of the Apocalypse, the power of Shazam, the Seven Deadly Enemies of Man, and the Lords of Chaos.
Truly a pathetic episode.
@@raymondbermudez555 yea, she was amped by Neron and the entire rock of eternity
Fr like they stay using none cannon stuff remember that jinx vs Harley Quinn battle they fr gave jinx a fake durability feat from the wild rift trailer when in lore she has no durability feats like that 😭
@@Viyan51Even in Akuma Vs Shao Kahn where they scale Kahn to a non-canon Fatality and used non-canon endings to scale him, while downplaying Akuma.
Edit: Same with Cammy Vs. Sonya
So a holding back raven struggles and loses to the spectre ok
Tysm! Loooooove you for this
Amazing video, also hey I have a suggestion
Could you debunk Scarlet Witch vs Zatanna
You again..I think the youtube have a spot to marvel crying fans
@@masterbeast-sz1yq UA-cam isn't a space dedicated to only one type of group. Even UA-cam has it's spot for toxic DC wankers
What pissed me off the most about this fight was how openly dishonest it was. "Raven even held off an attack by Unbound Spectre!" I've read that comic, and in literally the very next panel, Raven is on the ground, borderline unconscious, thoroughly defeated and unable to defend herself. She held off Spectre for one entire second. That's not grounds to scale. Between that and the complete misrepresentation of Unkindness, this is one of the few episodes that isn't just inaccurate; whoever did the research was actively lying, whether intentionally or just out of laziness.
That and the Tiger God "fight", the several Beyonder encounters (even defeating him once by overloading him with an universe worth of emotions something Raven is extremely weak to) and MYSTERIUM--an X-Men discovered and utilized antimagic metal, powerful enough to take out Dormammu, found in the WHITE HOT ROOM.
Damn It Death Battle 🤦
I love Raven.. but White Phoenix if the Crown massively stomps her in the white hot room..Raven has no chance.. Even if her soul cannot be destroyed.. the phoenix would just imprison her for all eternity in the WHR.. total win for the phoenix..
Unkidness 1 shot
Sounds about right
Is unkindness hyperversal at best?
Maybe, but the Unkindness is an alternative future timeline version of a composite Raven wielding the powers of the Four Riders, Shazam, the Seven Deadly Sins & the Lords of Chaos. Not an accurate depiction of Raven's individual power. It's not like she can summon these entities and forcibly take their powers.
@@raymondbermudez555 it was still canon
@@user-td2jw9ze2c So! The match was Phoenix vs Raven not Phoenix vs Unkindness. They didn't give Lex the Omega Effect or Apex Predator form, they didn't give Batman the Morbius Chair or the Yellow Lantern Ring, they didn't give Storm Stormcaster, so why give Raven the Four Riders & the power of SHAZAM & the Seven Deadly Sins & the Lords of Chaos
@@raymondbermudez555 is Raven above Neron?
Marvel fans are crying 😂
it giving none of yall have ever read a comic with raven in it
Raven is nothing to a god
True that. Just judging direct feats: Raven is universal at best, while Phoenix is unquestionably multiversal at base. The numbers don't lie but ScrewAttack does.
@@raymondbermudez555 Exacto! ScrewAttack just lost a subscriber and fan. If lying, was a superpower… screwattack would have it
@@sukunamaster😂😂 Raven, no joke, 😂, and the Phoenix Force is so powerful that beings who already see the omniverse as a microbe like the Beyonders and the Living Tribunal are insignificant compared to the Phoenix Force, Jean Gray is the most powerful character that has appeared in DeathBattle by far and even then he lost against another character who doesn't make it past Multiversal+ xd. The worst vs by far anyone who says otherwise doesn't know shit about comics.
@@raymondbermudez555you for how big the dc universe is
@@BlowingBeauty in a issue if Man-Thing, it was stated that "centillions" of being exist in Marvel.
This was a lot of BS cux wpotc calling on for help and strength in the white hot room and raven has no feats to take over a realme that is creation it's self 😭
They forgot about phoenix existence erasure lmao
Screwattack hasn't existed for 4 years
What?
Not saying I disagree, Phoenix is obviously stronger then raven but mixing pre retcon and post retcon beyonder statements is pretty disingenuous….. not like millions of times greater than the multiverse means much when stronger being live outside it
I think Base form Phoenix is easily High outer
This great videos 👍👍👍. Jean grey and lot characters other characters are my favorite characters. Everyone have great day and weekend and next week and full happiness 😊❤.
If you claim they like dc so much then why does marvel have more wins?
HEY DON'T YOU DARE TAKE AWAY DC'S ONLY WIN IN THIS DEATH BATTLE SEASON! 😡
Your right. Martian Manhunter should have won.
No No! Silver Surfer still stomps!@@raymondbermudez555
Theres no way Martian Manhunter can Beat Silver Surfer he just too powerful and too unfair!
6:06 doesn’t that look like disintegration to you
6:49 Yeah, that’s all that’s relevant. Raven isn’t fighting the Phoenix force itself, she fought the host Jean grey. This why I wish the title was Jean grey vs Raven.
9:07 someone forgot how big the dc multiverse actually is.
High outerversal phoenix beats multiversal raven I'm sorry fans raven is NOT ACTUALLY WINNING IN REALITY
I feel like people are forgetting something
Do you know how big the dc universe is
In the comics crossover the Phoenix said raven was tainted with evil that rivals her
Keep dreaming kid
People are so butthurt over this that they let Phoenix's loss cloud their judgement. And it's not even Screwattack, it's ROOSTER TEETH. Rooster Teeth bought out Screwattack in 2016. I guess MediaMarvel and all of you missed the memo on that.
Jean in the Hot White Room was able to kill Beyonder, God of Stories Loki who can change the storylines, wolverine as the host of the Phoenix was able to stop a wave that would destroy Omnivores and marvel comics, when raven was fighting with Spectre she wasn’t even alone, she made a deal with the king of hell Nekron who was also very powerful magic user 😂😂😂
@Superfoczka1 Have you ever seen Trigon or True Form Darkseid? Raven DOESN'T need to be in a specific place to beat Omega-level and beyond.
@@Animeaddictionyeah jean in the White Hot Room killed Beyonder, God of Stories Loki , and when raven was fighting with the Specte she made a pact with Nekron to trick Specte….
@@Superfoczka1 So again, it comes down to the soul. Raven wins
In recent comics it was said that the Phoenix can bound to the soul of its hosts,and she destroyed the Dormammu using the Misturium that is like poison to magic users 😂😂😂😂