I'm glad they're putting powerful effects on creatures - with no ward/hexproof - that need to hit players to do anything. This balances power, salt scale, and avoids the "my deck wins because my commander entered play".
@erikchumbley3014 why some of the ingredients to improve are the standard lighting greaves swiftfoot boots lavaspur boots because girl needs some protection
I went a different direction with her and have a deckbuild on my channel. I built her with infinite storm using Aluren/Food Chain so then all you need is a just a simple lava dart to win the game and it's a lot harder to interrupt since you're not going down in cards/resources to build your storm count.
You can always give spells (and permanents) multiple instances of abilities or effects, it's just a lot of them are redundant such as flying, some of them are not such as storm, cascade, etc.
Forgive me for this silly question. I'm trying to better understand why this card is so good. So, basically BEFORE Combat, you'll want to cast a LOT of low cost CMC spells, cantrips, etc. so that AFTER combat if you cast a good card (e.g., Time Warp, Expropriate, etc.) you get to copy it for all the spells you cast PRIOR to combat. Am I understanding it right?
@@benmughal Unless if you do extra combats. Then you can storm multiple spells, each one increasing in magnitude. She has vigilance too, so she can keep wailing away each combat without worrying about tapping. A lot of extra combat spells also give extra main phases, so you'll still have the option to storm multiple sorceries (maybe even chain together multiple extra combat spells).
Yes build up the number of spells before (or during) combat and then afterward you can recover a lot of cards, draw a lot of cards hit people is the face for massive damage, etc
Additional things about storm; copies of X cast spells have whatever value you put into X. Storm counts how many spells have been cast by anyone, not just you.
Those who get the SLD that includes this commander will also get a Manamorphose. Ice Storm is also included, and that has not seen a reprint since the early days of MTG.
This is not going to be a Casual Commander. This is going to sit with the cEDH crowd, there’s just consistent way to make this deck fair. I’m having a blast with her in cEDH, right now, and that says something about just how strong she is.
@@madara4447 It's called "Storm² (cEDH)" on Moxfield, by Aven_Alveron. It's still in testing, so if you try it out and find any decent upgrades, let me know!
@@madara4447probably something like fast mana into a stormed tutor that can get 2 creatures and finish with oracle leveler or something, theres several 2 creature combos that end the game
Yall should make a video like this about all five of the Commanders made, this was a sick video to follow along because I didn’t even think of a lot of the stuff you did. Thank you for your great content
Storm was the very first superhero that I fell in love with. Aquaman being second. I bet her and Kalamax would be best friends lol. This card is a MUST for me!!!!!
Should have added Irenicus’s Vile Duplication to the list too. Just $2.60, but it makes a copy of a creature and turns it non legendary if it’s legendary. So…who wants stacks of Storms to stack Storm’s storm triggers?
you could also storm one of the blue instant/sorcery finding tutors find all your key spells to stack for your next turn and unless you can be wheeled, you win.
@@ItsProperpanda”solve the equation” puts any instant or sorcery in your hand. Turn 6, If you play 3 one mana spells, connect with Storm, then cast Solve for 3, you go get 4 instants or sorceries.
Storms secert lair feels like it would be the perfect start base for the deck with the most best choices for value reprints especially with the new art plus shows you the deck can be dirty as hell
Rousing refrain’s mana is generated during upkeep, and will empty at 1st main phase. so if you are running mostly instants you’ll be fine, but I wouldn’t run this personally
With double strike, it counts as two instances of causing combat damage, so it will give two instances of storm. Every instance of storm will be added on to multiply the effect, just like how some creatures already have multiple instances of cascade. Also why the multiple combats thing is looking popular, because you could storm that effect, and then storm again after the other combats for even more instances.
Mitch thinks everything is over powered. This will not consistently break any top 16's in CEDH. Probably wont even be a top 40 commander. You could Food Chain with this deck to get a million casts, then swing for damage and get a million storm triggers.
@@jakelink1482Nadu is ramp, draw and a combo piece in the command zome at 3 cmc and No need to ever connect for it to work. Storm is a 4 cmc commander that lacks every check mark a cEDH commander needs, needs to connect, needs set up and is super telegraphed to the whole table. The card is going to be a cool casual card for higher powered pods but nothing more.
@avall0nNn1992 Definitely not true. Cedh is a warped format where a very specific subset of win cons are used by basically every deck. Just because she doesn't fit into that very small niche does not mean she isn't wildly overpowered. Your argument is basically that she dies to removal, and the entire table is going to be ready for it. If the entire table needs to change their game plan because of the commander you sat down with, it's a busted commander. Not to mention, she wants to run every copy of tamiyo's protection or dive down anyway to build her storm count. Which means you better be removing her on your turn because all you'll be doing is building the storm count if you do it on her turn. None of that takes into account the 50 different ways you can efficiently give her haste, while building storm, or the fact that in cedh you can surprisingly have 10 to infinitely more mana on any given turn.
@@jakelink1482 OP said this is not going to be anything in cEDH you said OP has no idea and didnt even see the power of Nadu, which implies that you see Strom as cEDH. I replied that she will not be cEDH viable your convoluted gameplan won't swing with RogSi Turbo, Kinnan, Sissay, T&T or other Tier1 (aswell as Tier 2 and 3) cEDH decks. Do what you want, if you See the new meta in her then power to you! I don't see her with any good conversion rate.
@brittneybell3424 cards that pretty much break the game and course endless lengthy turns usually ruin the game experience , especially when there are multiple options to do it. They won't ban it as it's going to be a big earner.
Lightning Bolt is good. Storm is gamewarping. There used to be a danger scale for R&D. Where they measured how likely something was to be reprinted on a scale from 1 to storm. As in storm is one of their greatest mistakes and it'll never be reprinted.
This commander is easily one of the grossest commanders ever printed. I definitely will not be able to sit down and play a game if someone is playing Storm. I could still see it being fun without extra turns and extra combats but with how oppressive this commander is it just seems like one sided fun.
Wrong. From the first line of gatherer's ruling on Galvanic Iteration as an example: "If you resolve one Galvanic Iteration after another (or cast the same one with flashback), the second Galvanic Iteration will be copied. That copy and spell each resolve, creating two delayed triggered abilities. The next spell you cast after that will be copied twice. If that spell is also a Galvanic Iteration, the following spell will be copied three times, and so on." Galvanic Iterations effect is "When you next cast an instant or sorcery spell this turn, copy that spell. You may choose new targets for the copy."
Proxy was thrown a lot on this video are you that poor that you cant afford a $49.99 😂😂😂 maybe this card game not for you maybe you should work rather than playing a card game
Storm, Omega lvl commander and also an Omega lvl mutant, fits.
I'm glad they're putting powerful effects on creatures - with no ward/hexproof - that need to hit players to do anything. This balances power, salt scale, and avoids the "my deck wins because my commander entered play".
Agreed.
Ward/shroud/hexproof/protection would put this commander way over the top. Especially since you'll already have access to counterspells.
@erikchumbley3014 why some of the ingredients to improve are the standard lighting greaves swiftfoot boots lavaspur boots because girl needs some protection
I went a different direction with her and have a deckbuild on my channel. I built her with infinite storm using Aluren/Food Chain so then all you need is a just a simple lava dart to win the game and it's a lot harder to interrupt since you're not going down in cards/resources to build your storm count.
Isn't Aluren banned?
@@benmughal in Commander? nope. in Legacy, yes.
Now add in untap all lands like Bear Umbra, Sword of Feast and Famine, Turnabout, and Nature's Will
I had no idea you could give spells, a second instance of storm
You can always give spells (and permanents) multiple instances of abilities or effects, it's just a lot of them are redundant such as flying, some of them are not such as storm, cascade, etc.
@@vincentxu8217Right, Zhulodok came to mind immediately for being able to give stuff “Cascade, cascade.”
Forgive me for this silly question. I'm trying to better understand why this card is so good.
So, basically BEFORE Combat, you'll want to cast a LOT of low cost CMC spells, cantrips, etc. so that AFTER combat if you cast a good card (e.g., Time Warp, Expropriate, etc.) you get to copy it for all the spells you cast PRIOR to combat.
Am I understanding it right?
Or use instants during combat before the damage will be resolved, but yes, you will storm off after that.
Yes, but extra turns reset the storm count. Extra combats might be better
@@cathalmolloy2002 The commander only lets you storm one spell.
@@benmughal Unless if you do extra combats. Then you can storm multiple spells, each one increasing in magnitude. She has vigilance too, so she can keep wailing away each combat without worrying about tapping. A lot of extra combat spells also give extra main phases, so you'll still have the option to storm multiple sorceries (maybe even chain together multiple extra combat spells).
Yes build up the number of spells before (or during) combat and then afterward you can recover a lot of cards, draw a lot of cards hit people is the face for massive damage, etc
Hearing TCQ sing time warp was not on my bingo card and I am totally here for it
Additional things about storm; copies of X cast spells have whatever value you put into X. Storm counts how many spells have been cast by anyone, not just you.
OMEGA LEVEL THREAT DETECTED!
Those who get the SLD that includes this commander will also get a Manamorphose. Ice Storm is also included, and that has not seen a reprint since the early days of MTG.
I'M BUILDING TEMUR INFECT STORM AND NO ONE CAN STOP ME!!!
I did the same and its sooo effective... 😂 my atraxa deck doesnt blow like this!
@Hicham49807 I'm so excited to play it! Also check out Mind Bomb as an alternate win con. Kind of blue Torment of Hailfire
LOVE the advocating for PROXYING!! Let’s go!! 🤣🙌🏽
This is not going to be a Casual Commander. This is going to sit with the cEDH crowd, there’s just consistent way to make this deck fair. I’m having a blast with her in cEDH, right now, and that says something about just how strong she is.
What’s your deck list
@@madara4447 It's called "Storm² (cEDH)" on Moxfield, by Aven_Alveron. It's still in testing, so if you try it out and find any decent upgrades, let me know!
@@madara4447probably something like fast mana into a stormed tutor that can get 2 creatures and finish with oracle leveler or something, theres several 2 creature combos that end the game
Yall should make a video like this about all five of the Commanders made, this was a sick video to follow along because I didn’t even think of a lot of the stuff you did. Thank you for your great content
0:56 thank for to speaking words to the gospel, I literally make goggle docs and print my cards with printer paper and a library card
This is the new Narset Extra Turns deck for sure, saying this as a long time narset player.
Thinking serious about taking storm in the place of narset
Storm was the very first superhero that I fell in love with. Aquaman being second. I bet her and Kalamax would be best friends lol. This card is a MUST for me!!!!!
All Fifth Dawn cards have black and white mana pips in the text box
Storm having storm is the chef’s kiss of flavor.🧑🍳
Should have added Irenicus’s Vile Duplication to the list too. Just $2.60, but it makes a copy of a creature and turns it non legendary if it’s legendary. So…who wants stacks of Storms to stack Storm’s storm triggers?
you could also storm one of the blue instant/sorcery finding tutors find all your key spells to stack for your next turn and unless you can be wheeled, you win.
Would definitely need one that puts it directly into your hand or you'll shuffle it away every time it copies. 😅
@@ItsProperpanda”solve the equation” puts any instant or sorcery in your hand. Turn 6, If you play 3 one mana spells, connect with Storm, then cast Solve for 3, you go get 4 instants or sorceries.
Cantrips will definitely be the optimal play
Storm is an insanely cool commander that you can get very creative with, unless you hate fun and put in extra turn/combats
Give storm doublestrike then after first strike damage, fist of flame will almost always finish that player off right then.
If we add the Cipher Cards in Blue, we can have a Stromcount of 3 even if we have not cast any other spell in our First Main Phase
wish the poercreep would slow down a bit, more and more of my decks are becoming useless.
This is fun. Extra combat spells. Land search. Card draw. Combat tricks. Burn spells. So many different possibilities for storm!
luckily no one I know was able to get the storm card
Storms secert lair feels like it would be the perfect start base for the deck with the most best choices for value reprints especially with the new art plus shows you the deck can be dirty as hell
Nice video! I really want a Battle Bond 2 set played as 2-3 headed giant with Marvel vs Capcom theme. Marvel Vs Capcom commanders would be cool too.
Def gonna proxy a storm not gonna burn money for that cardstock
Looks like fun, but at the same time I am not sure 😅
I am feverishly awaiting an edgin universes within ever since I made that paradox deck, hes so good for that deck but so expensive man 😫
Any tipps for finisher cards for her that are not extra turns and multiple combat phases?
Rousing refrain’s mana is generated during upkeep, and will empty at 1st main phase. so if you are running mostly instants you’ll be fine, but I wouldn’t run this personally
I already know how to break her. I got my list ordered and on it's way, just waiting for the release of the secret lair.
I'm aiming to get them all. If not, I'll get Storm, Wolverine and Iron Man. Also getting +1 SLD drops after I get Marvel.
ok imma play her, and since my friend group milled me for 68 cards in one turn, I WILL be playing Expropriate in this deck lol
only 68? my group hates my deck cause when i mill its entire libraries at a time lmao
Several “Untap up to…” cards sound useful as well to get the storm count going. ⛈️😱
use a creatureless deck with proteus staff to rearange the deck how u want
Did you say proxy it? or Proxy it? or maybe proxy it.
I can’t wait to make a slime against humanity deck with this commander
To prevent it, do you Stifle Storm’s effect, right?
Yes Storm is an Omega Level mutant.
Throw in a Irenicus Vile Duplication
I thought magic wouldn’t create any new storm cards? Part of why they created the storm scale.
I think that was only in a standard set and said by Mark, not officially stated by Wizards.
This is a Secret Lair.
I'm trying to get my head around storm...
But storm storm..? Is it storm x2 or spell? Or is it storm²?
How are you able to give it multiple instances of storm?
With double strike, it counts as two instances of causing combat damage, so it will give two instances of storm. Every instance of storm will be added on to multiply the effect, just like how some creatures already have multiple instances of cascade.
Also why the multiple combats thing is looking popular, because you could storm that effect, and then storm again after the other combats for even more instances.
Part of this didn't age well. Didn't they announce that they wouldn't be doing Universe Within for Secret Lairs anymore.... 😮
Giving classic storm colors (red-blue)….. ramp with green…. What can go wrong 😂😂
This...
Deck list, please!
Can u do a rendmaw creeping cast plz
Mitch thinks everything is over powered. This will not consistently break any top 16's in CEDH. Probably wont even be a top 40 commander. You could Food Chain with this deck to get a million casts, then swing for damage and get a million storm triggers.
I remember you saying the same thing about nadu, some people just can't see the head lights until it's already run them over.
@@jakelink1482Nadu is ramp, draw and a combo piece in the command zome at 3 cmc and No need to ever connect for it to work. Storm is a 4 cmc commander that lacks every check mark a cEDH commander needs, needs to connect, needs set up and is super telegraphed to the whole table. The card is going to be a cool casual card for higher powered pods but nothing more.
@avall0nNn1992 Definitely not true. Cedh is a warped format where a very specific subset of win cons are used by basically every deck. Just because she doesn't fit into that very small niche does not mean she isn't wildly overpowered.
Your argument is basically that she dies to removal, and the entire table is going to be ready for it. If the entire table needs to change their game plan because of the commander you sat down with, it's a busted commander. Not to mention, she wants to run every copy of tamiyo's protection or dive down anyway to build her storm count. Which means you better be removing her on your turn because all you'll be doing is building the storm count if you do it on her turn.
None of that takes into account the 50 different ways you can efficiently give her haste, while building storm, or the fact that in cedh you can surprisingly have 10 to infinitely more mana on any given turn.
@@jakelink1482 OP said this is not going to be anything in cEDH you said OP has no idea and didnt even see the power of Nadu, which implies that you see Strom as cEDH. I replied that she will not be cEDH viable your convoluted gameplan won't swing with RogSi Turbo, Kinnan, Sissay, T&T or other Tier1 (aswell as Tier 2 and 3) cEDH decks.
Do what you want, if you See the new meta in her then power to you! I don't see her with any good conversion rate.
“Wizards in control of commander is a problem”…….lets try and break this commander in this casual format 🤣🤣
Here's how to break her... uh literally any way. Land fall, burn, mill, unlimited card draw, literally anything in any of those colors.
its narset without hexproof
Clones that make the copy non legendary
Always has been
Sounds like you're describing a card that's going to get banned
Yes ban every good card because…??
@brittneybell3424 cards that pretty much break the game and course endless lengthy turns usually ruin the game experience , especially when there are multiple options to do it. They won't ban it as it's going to be a big earner.
That's why he said PROXY. lol proxy everything
Lightning Bolt is good. Storm is gamewarping. There used to be a danger scale for R&D. Where they measured how likely something was to be reprinted on a scale from 1 to storm. As in storm is one of their greatest mistakes and it'll never be reprinted.
Unlike obekka breaker of time
This has evasion.
I wanted to build this, but after watching this video I decided not to. 😇
This commander is easily one of the grossest commanders ever printed. I definitely will not be able to sit down and play a game if someone is playing Storm. I could still see it being fun without extra turns and extra combats but with how oppressive this commander is it just seems like one sided fun.
"Leaked"
Double strike does not work with storm, ive come about 3 videos making the same mistake. You cant stack instances of "the next spell you cast".
Wrong. From the first line of gatherer's ruling on Galvanic Iteration as an example: "If you resolve one Galvanic Iteration after another (or cast the same one with flashback), the second Galvanic Iteration will be copied. That copy and spell each resolve, creating two delayed triggered abilities. The next spell you cast after that will be copied twice. If that spell is also a Galvanic Iteration, the following spell will be copied three times, and so on."
Galvanic Iterations effect is "When you next cast an instant or sorcery spell this turn, copy that spell. You may choose new targets for the copy."
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I hate the marvel cards I hate their design and that they have to be pushed
First
Plow under, stunted growth, Duh expedite, run for your life. gonna try and keep it thematic jamming timewarps and tashas hideous laughter is just lame
Crack the Earth.
This sounds ban worthy ... Wait till they sell enough of them...then the hammer falls
Pretty lazy design imo to just have Storm give storm...
Proxy was thrown a lot on this video are you that poor that you cant afford a $49.99 😂😂😂 maybe this card game not for you maybe you should work rather than playing a card game