KTM Bankruptcy - Should You Be Worried?
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- Discussing the financial state of KTM. Lots of talk about KTM being bankrupt but that is not accurate, they are in insolvency which is not the same as bankruptcy but still not a good situation. I believe other company's will invest in KTM and get them back on track but now is a great time for other manufactures to step up and steal some of the market share.
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Maybe $13,000 dirtbikes and e-bikes no one asked for wasn't a good strategy.
They've destroyed the new bike and used bike markets, thanks KTM.
13k bikes is a disgusting price for something you have to overhaul the motor every several hundred hours. Yamaha is the way to go still, electric start would be nice, really hoping they add that to it soon.
Up until 2024, they sold every one of them they could make. It was rare to see a KTM 300 on the floor of a dealership that wasn't already sold. But they overproduced to catch up with covid demand, not predicting that the market would tank. You can blame the current situation on a LOT of their decisions, but their offroad enduro bikes were not the problem. Outsourcing to china/india, multiple versions of the 790/890, crank problems, electrical problems, spending boatloads on motogp, buying gas gas, etc. 👈 Those are the problems, to name a few.
I don't care what color you ride, everyone should be grateful that KTM forced all Japan manufactures to up their game.
They have a very hard decision to make Axe Husqvarna or Gas Gas? Then you have the new bike Fanatic and now you have competition you haven’t had for a while! But in these times the $13 dirt bike maybe gone! They have a lot but not all saying do I have food for my family or do I buy a new dirt bike quite often? All adds up like a snowball effect! I know I’m going to get some hate for this but it’s reality for a lot.
Spending 80M a year on motogp was a bad investment, wasting money left and right with losing acquisitions was the nail in the coffin.
MotoGP teams dont cost money.
They MAKE money through sponsorship.
@@RIPPERTON It certainly does cost. Nothing comes for free.
If he thinks they are getting 80 million in sponsorship a year he is crazy...lol
I heard the X -BOW car was a bottomless pit for expenses.
@@RIPPERTON bullshit, they lose shitloads
KTM needs to restructure, reduce their SKUs.... why do they have 4 different 300 XC-W models for 2025? Get rid of the super cars and stick to basics. And improve customer support.
100%.
How about actually having an R&D department instead of letting the buyer do it.
@@williamcrotts7054KTM has the largest R&D team out of any brand dude. Do some R&D yourself before makin a comment like this…..
@@nevadahardenduro I do know what I'm talking about, ive owned over 40 of them. Want to talk about 4CS forks? Butter cams, TPI,TBI, no 2 run the same, non flexing frames, if it wasn't for the aftermarket they would've sunk a long time ago.
4?
Try 8
My buddy who sells them told me an hour ago sitting at his desk there’s 8 different 300 models and looking at the price of the husky pro $16,000 plus shipping , pdi , tax etc
That’s almost $18k out the door
For a fucking kymco / bajaj
Beta and Sherco may benefit the most with terrific purpose built machines ready to go .
And Rieju
They both owe KTM for developing and keeping 2T alive hate them or love them, they make great bikes !!
@@mixalis6168 After you dump another 4k into it.
You could do worse than a Beta. I'm on my 3rd Beta now and I still own 2. Awesome bikes.
@@rodneystewart4312 sherco 300se is definitely on my short list of bikes I want. Currently on a ktm 300xc
KTM might survive if they are incredibly lucky. In the UK, they have supplied inferior bikes, shut down trusted local dealers and provide zero back up when bikes go wrong. This has led to many if not most long term KTM owners getting into other brands. People don’t trust KTM anymore. The KTM debt is also colossal. The man at the top has drained the cash from the bank causing even more distrust. Tricky times.
Do you mind citing which brand has been preferred in your area?Here in Portugal ktm and their brands dominate the enduro scene. Sherco maybe?
man i hope the YZ300X / YZF350 / YZF350X rumors are true! i'd want to buy one of everything.
Yamaha isn’t totally clean either. My 24 Tenere 700 has clutch issues as do many.
@@ilovelucy9077 yea but people dont like hatin them as much they are more liked
As someone who only ever buys used bikes, all I’m concerned with is parts availability. As long as I can get parts for whatever bike I have, I don’t really care. Ktm management have fumbled the ball in colossal fashion, and don’t really deserve to continue to exist at this point imo
You'd have to think parts supply will be critical to their survival going forward. Surely that would be a priority.
Amazing, man, how you can ride such a twisty trail and talk at the same time. Good skills!
On topic of KTM, in my opinion, given the massive dealer network, innovative approach (sad about the QC slipping a bit) and a strong product such as KTM line up, they sure be here to stay (may be after the board that made poor strategic decisions has been restructured).
Hate to see KTM go under for sure. The entire powersport and mountain bike industries are struggling. Arctic Cat is holding off production of their snow mobiles, several bicycle companies are closing their doors, and sales are down industry wide. Hopefully we can bounce back 🙏🤞
Great information, Greg. As you know, I run TM out of Italy, and I have no issues getting parts, so I think KTM will be fine. I am excited about the Yamaha future you touched on.
All I know is that my 2024 350exc-f is freaking amazing. Just over 1k miles (Moab, CO mountains, Rimrocker, chill rides, occasional roads) and I'm blown away. Although the prices are discouraging, I hope to see what ktm is producing 5-10 years from now.
The 350's are one of the best all round bikes for sure!
Great video, awesome 2nd gear trails. Reminds.me of my Oregon.
In Australia ktm is everywhere my local shop can’t keep up with demand so it surprised me a lot hearing about this!
Hopefully they keep Husky as I’m a big fan. Probably buying another one shortly, FE350. I don’t see many Gas Gas bikes out and about but plenty of Husqvarnas in Southern California. No problem with Japanese bikes but they honestly don’t produce a bike that suits my wants, Beta is the only other option that I’m looking at.
I have a 2024 Husqvarna FE 350W and its awesome!
@@DUNEATV No such animal as you described. ☹️
@@mikeburnett6222 I own it.
Now IS a great time to be a consumer!...just picked up a leftover '24 125 XC for $5800 OTD...Cernics in PA has sales price on 450sxf's of $5995!
I think what most people fail to udnerstand regarding KTM's current predicament - and certainly some commenters here - that bankruptcy is not the same as going out of business. Bankruptcy is a cash flow problem. Hence KTM calling their current efforts a restructuring.
100%
I think everyone is fully aware KTM is 3 billion in debt.
Both sherco& beta have put out very strong specialized products and their entry’s are competitive for hard enduro !
It goes without saying, 3 billion in debt will paint a drastically different picture for KTM. It would not surprise me if KTM's diverse group of creditors collectively formed an equity group and claimed a big chunk of KTM and its future at the negotiating table. I think the brand itself is strong but is obviously in desperate need of drastic rescaling to meet current and future markets. I agree one or more of the brands may be dropped or sold (MV) from production as well as slow selling models. It may take years to recover but maybe if they do it right the consumer may not be worse off from it, maybe better. Better support, competitive pricing and 1st rate quality control would be very well received. They've been down this dark road before, just not this far down or this dark. This time its colossal. In the end I think KTM's deep customer base will still be there because they are producing the most developed off road bikes available today. But that may not last if they don't remap they way the company runs for the long haul and with the consumers satisfaction at the top of the priority list.
Just my $0.02, nothing that hasn't already been said 10k times but theres reason for hope and not panic at the moment with some key company elements still intact. Oh.. and it wouldn't surprise me either if the unsold bikes in the warehouses got cheaper still. Cash is king baby!
I disagree with these thoughts. $3 Billion in debt and insolvent is a huge concern. KTM can go out of business and will most likely get sold for pennies on the dollar unless they come across some huge VC money. I predict CF Moto will buy out what is left of KTM, move all production to China, and their quality will be poor.
too many bikes produced ... maybe. The strategy to not send the local dealers what they ask for and send them all the different versions is a bad business model. The local shops where you and I are at all want a 300 2-stroke and maybe a couple others. that is what sells. Not a 450 mx edition with 5 different names and colors. hope they turn it around. I got my 24'
I just don't see how they are going to get anyone to invest 3 Billion euros to bail them out. 😂
Elon offered $3B but they have to change their name to Fart Fart.
@cliftondodge 😳
They supposedly have a 3 investor package totaling 700 M Euros willing to pony up if severe restructuring occurs. That helps pay down on what is owed and gives them bare bones operating capital.
@@cliftondodge 🤣🤣🤣
insolvency is an act of bankruptcy, they are only protected from creditors if they come up with a rescue package, or strike a deal with the creditors ,if not they're gone. The shell will be bought by Bajaj and / or and other companies. They will be lucky if they don't face charges. all this is the result of Pierre's arrogance and financial mismanagement
Bajaj already owns 48% of the corporation.
@@ronald8673 Like I said you'll get a bowl of curry or rice with every new model.
Defaulted debt currently stands at €1.8 billion. Creditors are being offered 30% to settle. This, of course, means lots of people are going to get screwed.
When you don't pay your suppliers(creditors),you don't get parts. The newer the model,the less parts there already are. They will also increase parts prices to make up the loss they're experiencing. As if their parts prices aren't ridiculous already. I guess the pain will be the test of brand loyalty.
KTM would be stupid to screw the suppliers, if they intend to continue manufacturing.
I saw it with Aprilia in 07 when they were in trouble,just like ktm is now. Parts prices were the first to go up and everything was on backorder.
KTM pricing is ridiculous anyway. They've ruined the new dirt bike and used bike markets.
I'm looking into buy a new 2T bike, wanted to buy the HQV 300 heritage so bad. The prices are already more "flexible" on the dealers, but I've kept the money aside for three more months to see what's going to happen to austrian brands, like you said nothing is sure and being a KTM bike owner I've also have a lot o wishfull thinking. Wanted a 2T injection bike, but if an YZ comes with electric start and the price is right I can change my mind.
I was doing the same thing keep my budget aside 1st as i wanted to wait till February 2025 to see if KTM goes down and not recovering well.. then i guess i have to change my mind to other brand then 😅
The price point is why I didn't go with a KTM. I got a killer deal on a brand new 2024 Yamaha YZ250X recently, 7400 out the door. Why would I pay 15K for a KTM 300 XC-W? It looks like sales have the bike around 11K currently but after all dealership fees and all that bullshit I'll be paying at least 13K. 14K of the dealership is a real asshole.
I’ve been following the news for a while, I ride orange as well. As a matter of fact, picking up my son 2024 ktm 85sx on Monday.
Saved over 2400. So yes I would say good time to buy. I’m not really concerned about Ktm. But there definitely will be change needed, just waiting to see what.
You’re right though, a lot of doom and gloom.
I just hope the learn from their mistakes.
Any new Yamaha 300 2T bike will need new cases, counterbalancer, 6 speed transmission, fuel injection, stronger charging system, electric start, and probably a headlight and taillight. All this adds weight to the 229 pounds dry that the YZ 250X already is. Two stroke motorcycles are already being legislated out of existence in California. I’m not convinced that Yamaha, a conservative company, will risk a bundle of R and D cash on this.
I agree, also if they produced that bike it would raise the price to what a KTM costs and that is a big part of the draw people have to the YZ now.
Im pretty sure KTM is going to make it in some form. Bring on the new bikes from other mfg's. I think Yamaha's 250x is pretty good but needs a better transmission and E-start. Fantic is one of those exotic bikes with no support here.
Fantic will become more popular here in the next year or so.
I hope your right brother. I have a Duke I bought 3 months ago and I love it.
I hope Yamaha keeps the 250 platform and just adds to that I’m not a fan of the 300
In my opinion some models should not be just made untill they cant, the ysould make them only orderable (I hope you understood what I wanted to tell, I've learned english)
I agree that I haven't seen anything from KTM giving me warm fuzzies about how they're righting the ship. Having said that, I feel confident they will. I have no plans to get rid of my 500, and I'd consider buying new from them if I were in the market right now. I don't think parts or service will be an issue, at least in the coming year or three.
Agree. Great bikes, poor management.
Personally, I’d buy one of the 24/25’s over later. Because later MAY mean a Chinese version vs a European version.
Good point, hopefully not the way it ends up!
I'm hoping for discounted prices but there's no evidence of that here in Australia, not on the 690/700/701 at least which is what I want.
They did say that Covid would affect manufacturing for up to 10 years. I’m starting to believe it. 😢
Highland Cycles is putting out Fantic Content
Yep. Best thing he could have done as far as generating interest and growing his channel. Good on him.
I just picked up a 2023 Freeride E-XC for 6k out the door, that’s almost half off MSRP lol. First KTM too. I didn’t ever see myself buying one, but the price was too good to pass up.
Can't beat that price!
I sold off all KTM's in 2022. Saw this coming. Now ride a Sherco in the woods and a GSXR750 on the streets. Happy happy!
@@n.elliott9122 you were smart . 👍
Yup,I switched to a Beta300 in 21 and a Honda Africa Twin for road and back roads.KTM warranty of their products stung a lot of riders.I like their 2t,s but the competition definitely caught up.
Been on KTM since 07, 525 EXC plated now a 540 , before they were popular. January of '25 planning to get 2 more, 2025 300 XC for me and a 2024 350 EXC for the grand son to ride on. $2400 off for the EXC, how do you pass it up. Take that $2400 and make a few mods and turn both bikes into dream bikes. The grandson can ride trail, race and Dual sport with me .... just say i am investing in my future and his. I started riding at the same age of him, 15 years old. This will keep me on the bike till I cant stand up. Still bleed Orange, has never let me down
You will be rudely awaken with that plan , welcome to ktmthings coming to life near you soon. 525 were rock solid design and manufacturing with that engine , dangerous at speed though with the suspension etc hehe.
When a rear master cylinder is $300 now,how high is your pain threshold? "Pride" of ownership overrides common sense sometimes.
Love my Husky, curious to see what happens…
Same here!
Big market share and massive brand loyalty. I expect they will continue to be around in some shape.
why are the same bikes same year 3 to 4k diff in price?
I was interested to purchase a 790 Adventure but with camshaft failures and not honoring their warranties.. so I passed.
What does it mean to be insolvent?
A person or organization that is insolvent does not have enough money to pay their debts. [business, formal] The bank was declared insolvent. Synonyms: bankrupt, ruined, on the rocks [informal], broke [informal] More Synonyms of insolvent.
No offense but they are absolutely in Bankruptcy. Its just a different terminology because different countries do and call it different things. They are in Bankruptcy and in real trouble. Do i think KTM survives, yes i do. But its gonna take drastic changes and restructuring and selling off every bike they have which they arent doing currently and in my area they aren't even discounted at all. So im not overly confident they are trying very hard to save the company. If they were there would be huge sales running everywhere to move products and get cash flowing, that's currently not happening. Moto GP,race car's, mountain bikes,to many brands(MV agusta etc..),ridiculous prices, horrible customer service, are all just a couple of the many things that need fixing and quickly. If not the company will be pieced off and sold to investors which is probably what needs to happen anyway. Just my two pennies
KTM is 3 Billion Euros in debt. A massive hurdle to jump. That is a cash flow problem which didn't just start in 2024. Some say that amount of debt it's not possible to overcome in the current climate and foreseeable future.
Just picked up a Husqvarna 501, traded the 890 Adv R NOT because of the issues some seem to have but was using the 890 more offroad then on.Not at all worried about parts, hopefully KTM will come back strong.Yamaha has good dirt bikes but nothing you can really get to plate for on road like KTM.
Pretty much my thoughts as well. Ktm dirtbikes moved the goalposts with the TPIs and the 350s . I have no brand allegiances. I look at bang for buck. Good common sense advice from you as usual.
BK. either Reorg or liquidation. Chap 11 vs 7. Either way, shareholders likely wiped out. Hopefully it's a reorg. The biggest issue is warranty...are previous sold bike warrantied or not. And to be honest, warranty is not a big issue usually because bike warranties are not that long anyway, manufacturers warranty anyway. Class 1-9... that's all that matters and depending on warranty nothing really will likely affect bike owners or KTM being an "on going concern" after reorg. Bonds class 1.... shareholder class 9. So there ya go. And everything in between. Bike owners...don't matter in all reality. If chap 7 that's a diff conversation. BTW that's USA BK I'm citing. If diff Jurisdiction, who knows.
Pierer mobility and KTM are under Austrian jurisdiction so it is probably a bit different. I own a KTM 300 xc-w and hope they can put their things together and continue their business. Also think they have done great things in the off road market.
They have to liquidate their 3 billion dollar debt before anyone even offers a red cent. They have a quarter of a million unsold bikes as well. Odds are not in their favor.
Im looking at Yamaha Beta or Fantic. 250/300 2 stroke
Can you please elaborate on your financial background to back up your theories? Thanks. Good job.
So many hot takes out on the internet right now, mostly from people who have no idea how insolvency in the EU even works, let alone corp finance. I don't claim to know - I'm just here for the 🍿
Great videos as always. Have you thought about getting a reviewing the CUO unit for your 250 xcf.
No, I don't feel the bike needs any modifications. Thanks for the support!
I'm weary of the crisis and not a go for the new 25 freeride any more. It's probable in a year they will recover and get things straightened out and be smarter.
ktm wasn't happy selling motorcycles. They had to go fancy. The money it took to build a car and have a GP presence was stupid. THE MATH NEVER DID WORK. The CEO and investors are huge ego losers.
KTM will stay. 👍They'll cut some fat and bring in some investors ...They got to big for their britches.
Agree 100%. I really hope they learn from this and provide better customer service in the future. Anyone that has had the "pleasure" of dealing with a KTM warranty claim knows what I'm talking about.
Love your content, great idea to give palatable surface level commentary on the KTM administration while ripping around on your KTM in the woods.
However, it should be noted that KTM and the Pierrer Mobility group have already made various announcements and statements about their approach to a solution. They have already slowed production considerably and unfortunately reduced their workforce significantly as a result. Their recent acquisition of MV Augusta is in question, with them having announced the intention to sell off a majority stake, potentially even to the previous owners.
I also don't think that it is necessary for KTM to make any announcement style videos at this stage and in all fairness almost off the hype is negative, so they have every right to use their media company to bring balance to the situation.
Ktm overreached and is certainly paying the price. However I am quite optimistic about the outcome.
People keep talking about finding discounted KTMs.. I haven’t seen any in Arizona.
I saved around $2500 on my 2024 mid summer.
Come to Ga... Its a fire sale
@@PNWEnduro Congrats! Nice bike!
@@Dashriprock4 that’s a long way to travel! Wonder what shipping would cost? Thanks for the heads up
If you like Husqvarna Screwy Louie motorsports on Deer Valley Rd had a decent sale
KTM is not going anywhere there might be some painful restructuring and new investors but the aftermarket business with a large installed base is hugely profitable. Many iconic brands and companies have been through this. In the long run, this may be the best thing for KTM to right size the business and get new corporate leadership.
Yep, I just hope they learn from their mistakes.
I’m picking up my 2025 300 XCW in January. I have no doubt about KTM’s future. Banks creditors will assist on new management which will be more conservative and restrained. Great videos keep up the great work.
They sure as hell arent on sale here in las vegas they are around $12.000 for a 300 and close to $13.000 for a 4 stroke. Of course that just could be our local ktm/husky dealership all their prices are insane anyways.
I'm eyeing off a 690/700/701 and they're not on sale here in Australia either.
Agreed. Washington is full price too. Maybe the Canadian dealers are nicer 😂
Im picking a 24 250sx up for 8250 otd Tuesday in Florida.
Would love to see "affordable" bikes make a come back. Maybe carbureted, not as high end suspension, more of a stripped down model. I know it would probably take away from some of their higher end sales, but it will keep riders in the game. Not going to spend 13K on a KTM. The big 3 trucks are having the same issue making very few value priced models. Yamaha does have a great opportunity to move into the trail/hard enduro market. Keep it under 10K, they'll sell thousands of them.
Sounds like you are describing a GPX bike.
I just hope if gasgas gets sold off, someone reputable buys them. I want to still be able to get quality parts. Its also a good thing I'm planning on never selling my '22 ec300
I guess that removing the kick starter and adding that cheap stator didn't help them money wise.
GAS GAS IS GONE , went to Rieju.
The dealers are still sticking to their high prices.
I’m not concerned about not having a kick start, hundreds of hours on e-start only bikes and never had an issue.
As of today, Gas Gas is still part of ktm.
Dealers here have discounted Ktm /husky/gas gas bikes by thousands of dollars. I saved $2500 on my 250xcf.
@@PNWEnduro .... .his video will tell you KTM doesn't own gas gas and that Rieju does Time 1:13
8:00 Yamaha already have a 300cc Estart EFI 2 stroke enduro bike.
Fantic have a YZ frame and bored out 250 made buy subsidiary engine company Motor Minarelli.
Also Fantic Motor is in Partnership with Yamaha.
Fantic or Yamaha Europe has a 300 with electric start in production and in dealerships. I was told by a Yamaha rep that they new KTM was going to have problems 2 years ago and have been waiting for this to develop. There will be a YZ300X next year. Also they have a 350 ready to go as well. He said a YZ350F Moto bike and a YZ350FX. Hope he's right. I believe he said the 300 will be oil injected.
That would be very interesting indeed! I'd pick a Fantic over Yamaha because I want fuel injection.
I think Yamaha should just buy out Fantic
I’ll believe it when I see it. I think Yamaha is content selling 20 year old 2 strokes
The Frantic is a Yamaha 300. Maybe a few little differences but it is 90+% Blue.....
With regard to the YZ350F(X), Yamaha did hire Kailub Russell to race GNCC for 2025 & beyond. For 2025, he'll be on a YZ450FX, but I suspect he may very well have been hired to help get out at least a YZ350FX for 2026. I kind of figured that any YZ300X for 2026 will simply be the Fantic XE300 in "Blu-Crew" colors, with the aim of using it for: 1) getting into the (hard) enduro w/the Cody Webb hire. 2) sorting out what they want to possibly do in the future w/the YZ125/250(X) models. I have seen a little on the Fantic XE300 that got "bootlegged" into the US, and guy who did this affirmed that it is fast. I wonder if at some point we'll see a WR350R (dual sport)?
I'm looking at buying my first bike. I was going to get the 300 XC-W for the trails riding that I do. But then the whole KTM financial issue spooked me. Not really sure whether i should pursue KTM if financial issues continue
Now is a good time to buy a Ktm Prices are down. They will probably go through some changes but they are not going away imo.
Sell off MV Agusta and GasGas. As a Husky owner, I'd hate to see the brand discontinued or under Chinese/Indian ownership. KTM/Husqvarna is the only manufacturer that makes street legal enduro bikes in Canada. I have a blue plated WR450F but it is very difficult to do that these days, at least in Ontario.
Money talks. Internet hype won't keep someone from walking past a Yamaha, if there is an overstocked KTM for $2k less. Competitors might squeeze a PR moment out of this but they won't be coming out ahead until the 200k heavily discounted KTM bikes leave the inventory. With demand at historic lows, we would be lucky to not see another brand get dragged down by this liquidation.
Good points!
Settle down. Bankruptcy. Two years from now consumers won't notice any effects
If anyone thinks KTM is gonna disappear, think about it. They probably sell a ridiculous amount of bikes. They just need to restructure their management is all.
KTM should bring back carbureted two strokes. There are lots of riders like me who hate fuel injection. I bought a new Beta X-Pro because it is has a carb.
How’re you liking those super soft forks?
@ got the correct springs for my weight put in by my dealer. Suspension is really good in my opinion.
KTM can’t sell carbureted two strokes in Europe due to the volume of sales and emissions regulations. Beta and Sherco will both eventually be forced to switch to FI as well.
@ sad. Making a company sell a product that isn’t necessary for a problem that doesn’t exist…..
3 billion in debt, massive dealer inventory, and quaility issues...you are too optimistic for them...
Yeah 3 Billion in debt but everything’s just fine.
Maybe Artic Cat / Textron will buy them...
Yes. I'm not against Chinese bikes, but it would be nice if Japan could be in the game.
Why on earth would you buy two 2024 bikes when you can get a 20 year old Japanese bike for $3000 to do the same stuff.
New stuff is crap. How do people not realize this?? 90s Camry are like cockroaches
Like I really doubt you'll see today's KTM bikes in 2040, but people will still have their XR400 purring
Kawasaki should buy KTM. Kawasaki Heavy Industries is very financially secure. Kawasaki motorcycles would revitalize their off road product line and would introduce efficiency and quality to KTM.
SMARTEN UP PEOPLE ALL EUROPEAN BRANDS ARE DOOMED ! ... IT'S BAD ! 😕
They have already dropped MV. How will KTM compete with all the Chinese bikes coming to market? how will the company survive in its present form when they already have enough bikes for the market next year? your right about the "pitstop" video, zero humility for current and past issues, the current LC8 issues are covered by a good faith agreement whilst they have promised to pay their own employees and failed as I understand. Those 2 comedians both need to be doing something else far away from KTM. I hope KTM comes back to the trail but they have gone so far off piste with their eyes closed and ear plugs in without rinsing the swarf from their oil. I do not share your optimisum. it really is hard to fathom how they have gone so wrong in so many directions.
I love my 02 YZ250, 05 YZ250, 2014 YZ250, 05 YZ144. I really could care less about any euro bike, I’m just not interested. I could still get almost any part for my 2000 YZ250, just that it was time to go do it sold for top dollar, the guy still has it and loves the power delivery, Just as I love it. yeah, yeah electric start don’t need it I’d rather have the work out and love how raw the YZ is. I’m not racing anymore and all them wonderful Yamahas will and have far outlasted any of those $80,000 euro bikes lol! Great bikes and don’t want or need any of them. Cheehhoooo Cody Webb! Taking Yamaha to the next level not that it needed it. He rips on a bone stock 250x which proves it isn’t the machine, it’s the rider. This guy is on a crappy 4 stroke lol!! A million dollar maintenance cash burner. They suck! Unless of course you are Only racing motocross!
They need to get the 1390 GT to the States
Its to bad but they will rebound they are winners at most hard enduros husky and ktm i ride a te 300 and personally think its one of the best trail bike you can ride I am sure they will keep going with changes
Cheap Chinese cheese camshafts in their motors
It's all about profit.
Good Bye KTM
as far as a aluminum frame they don’t have engineering to get the benefit of a alloy frame fire the engins
The KTM line will be all be assembled in India from Chinese parts and assemblies.
Love your bike bro
If yamaha has an E start 300 my GasGas will be GasGone, and I am a huge fan of my 23 TPI.
Yep, a lot of people would jump on that. Fantic is basically already selling this and will start to become more available in North America.
Beta was always a better bike anyway.
Always will be legendary, 😊
Itll be Husqvarna that goes bye-bye IMO as well....your riding up in BC or WV?
Shame if Husky goes, I like the TE300 over the XCW for the linkage (lower seat height).
Husky legacy is over 100 years old now? I think it will survive
The Husky has brand equity. They could sell the brand off for a decent sum or decide to continue with it as it does have intrinsic value. I could definitely see gas gas going away
@@jnew3755 I have no doubt about that.... however, will it survive under the KTM umbrella? Probably not.
Estart? Meh - would not buy a Yamaha just for that! they need way more changes to the frame/fork geometry - it's stiff and terrible on single track. Works in flowing terrain, but it ain't agile. Also needs more linear power curve and bottom end for tough trails and terrain. You see I'm describing my TE300 ... already there. They should dump gasgas, poorly performing street bike lineups, get new investors and stop producing four versions of the same model (e.g. xc-w).
A lot of people would get the Yamaha if it had E-start, I agree it needs a lot more and I'm not a big fan of the platform to begin with but a lot of people do love them.
Nice riding too
Thanks 🙏
Nice trail
I want the kx300fx to cone over here. Also honda needs one.
Ktm is over priced for what you get.
Self administration means a clemency period before a court appointed administrator puts the company in receivership
They sold 49% to bajaj stating in 2006 and the last bit sold in 2021
Huge losses and crushing debt coupled with what’s coming next
A employee walkout and lawsuit due to Ktm not paying their staff since October and the class action lawsuits that are coming from denying warranty on known issues within the warranty period
Stefan Pierre has turned down offers to purchase Ktm by bajaj
If they purchase 2% more they are majority owners
So he can’t sell off anymore
He has stated this is his company and legacy
No one is stepping up financially with or without a piece of the pie
So what’s left ?
They already plan to shut down operations in Austria and only produce at 20% soley in China and India and have layed off 800 staff
There’s nothing to salvage at this point
This is it
KTM bikes have been over priced for years and with the mechanical problems, high cost of maintenance are all reasons why KTM has so many bikes not selling
KTM's are cheaper than Sherco's in my area, over $2,000 less in some cases.
@PNWEnduro yeah your right but they are still 2 or 3 grand more than jap made bikes ! When dirt bikes started costing more than 10 grand it's ridiculous mostly ridden by younger people who don't have a lot of money who can afford them !!!
Fantic in the US? Great, I want the 500 scrambler.
Only one should be worried is the owner Europe. Mite have China as new ownerships
Can you ride year around where you are riding?
For the most part yes, few weeks here and there with too much snow depending on the winter.
@@PNWEnduroDamn…that would be so Rad! I’m in Salt Lake City.
@Ride4life311 you also have year round riding, within a day trip south anyway! I'll be down that way in a few months.
@@PNWEndurowe do but you have to travel south quite a ways. I snowmobile pretty hard in the Winters! So, it’s just not a huge priority. If I didn’t snowmobile then I would DEFINITELY 💯 be traveling south to get my throttle therapy in . 🤘💪
@Ride4life311 yeah, I regularly drive 3-4 hours each way on weekends in the spring/summer months to ride big mountain stuff so that's just normal for me.