Another year, another Normies Eurovision reaction video where no one does their homework about the show and just keeps "teaching" false information to others. "Italy 4th", "Austria performed 13th", "jury vote is worth more", "Loreen being the first person to win twice"... Guys, please, just print the Wikipage for the show or something to have in front of you the next time. And a map of Europe, while you're at it. I adore your reactions to other TV shows, but your Eurovision videos could definitely use more work.
Very true. It's painful to watch. I will say with the austria being 13th she called that out and said it was 13th place preforming and they got lower on the final order after the votes
When it comes to US Americans reacting to Eurovision, they're one of the most enjoyable ones imo. I do prefer their reactions to Buffy and other shows I watch. But I do like their ESC reactions, they don't say stuff that's as bad as many other channels. xD
"Coz Europeans put Sweden in high regard, like the Swiss bank and stuff". My brother in christ, Sweden and Switzerland are two different countries. The SWISS bank is in Switzerland.
You have no idea what this win means to 🇸🇪. It's like the secound comming, our religion is music, despite being a small country we are HUGE in the music industry, which people don't seem to know, (mistake us for American or something) so to get recognition is amazing!
@@supersuede6493 I have mixed feelings. On one hand I love that Sweden won because then it will be hosted there again (hopefully with Petra), and I didn't want Finland to come 1st bcs even tho I'm a Finn I don't love the song (only 24th for me from all the entries this year) and I found him to be bad at singing. On the other hand Tattoo is without a doubt a great song, but not only were there more than ten songs I preferred to win I also much preferred Sweden's 2022 entry and think it/Cornelia deserved the win instead of Tattoo. So I very much don't know how to feel, other than relief over Finland not winning, and happiness and pride over Cornelia getting invited to perform on the esc stage again
7:11 actually Serbia is Balkans, south-east Europe, one of ex Yugoslavia countries, not near or around Russia, 24:16 exactly, Swiss=Switzerland & bank$, thnx Navi, 24:45 legendary Johnny Logan was first to win twice ˙80/´87 for Ireland, 34:20 yes, it`s anti-war satire, this year Croatia said f*ck that shit, all great observations Damarin & Chris, 34:30 no concrete ŠČ meaning, just trolling with letters of slavic alphabets, they wanted to make distinctive sound not common in anglophone countries. great reaction, thnx guys.
17:50 You cannot complain about the jury and then Austria's low placement at the same time. The jury gave them 104 points, the public gave them 16. They placed 15th overall. With public vote only, they'd have placed 23rd. Jury would have put them 8th.
The same goes for Spain. The juries like that song and the public did not and yet people complain that Spain finished so low. You can’t hate on the jury only when it benefits your own personal opinion and then agree with them on another song.
@@emmaaaa1004 EXACTLY!! The juries gave too much points to both Sweden and Finland this year, but on almost everything else they got it right, saved many songs that deserved a lot more from the public. Thank you both for these comments
Loreen is not a drug user or any other substance abuser. Get a grip and learn the person behind the character she portrays. She's a very spiritual and free-minded person. She's also very eccentric person which in most social circumstances comes off as a person that is very aloof and chill/played back person. Marketa I am a long time follower both here and on Patreon and I appreciate you and your opinions and views. But the disrespectful slander and attempt to sway the others views or opinions was not okay and I am hurt to see it. Loreen as many stated won it fairly and without any controversy or back stage fiddling. She came first in jury vote who base their judgement on performance, vocals, song writing and staging. She came SECOND in televotes while Käärijä came fourth in jury judgement and first in televotes. Had he been at least better than third place in jury vote he might have clinched it. There is already a mount everest high hate on Loreen from bitter fans online, don't throw gasoline into the fire please.
This video was just full of misinformation lol. It isn't that hard to pull out a phone and google the final score. Or the fact that Johnny Logan has won Eurovision 2 times. All the unnecessary comments about Loreen were a bit disrespectful as well, like it has never been confirmed that she was taking any substances. So to spit that out like it's a fact seems a bit rude. It also sounded like Loreen won solely based on the jury when she also got the 2nd highest vote by the public. This is not uncommon in Eurovision that the artist with the most televotes isn't the winner (Netherlands 2019, Ukraine 2016 to name a few). My personal favorites this year was Norway, Finland and Czechia. So while I was a bit sad neither of them won, I was happy that they got a well deserved placement instead (top 10).
I don't like that you presented a bias even before letting anyone hear the songs, let them listen first and say what they thought without judgement and prior influence!
Yes, it was annoying also when they couldn´t accept the people saying they liked Sweden. They where like "no, you are not supposed to like that one, what about chachacha?" Let people have their opinions, THAT is what Eurovision is about more than anything. Every single person in my household voted for different acts, and I wouldn't wanna have it any other way.
Wait a minute, juries and people's votes are equal. You slandered loreen (Sweden) the whole video without mentioning she was the second televote favourite - so her winning is not that big of a deal. There's been many times where a televote or jury winner didn't win the whole thing lol Also it was the televote that didn't reward Austria.
where did you come up with that 50.6% figure? Based on the "everyone else" televote? It's 50-50, each country's jury has 58 points and each country's televote has 58.
@@itsgoodiewoodie Nah Jury is an important concept. But it needs restructuring and a lot of changes. 4/5 people per country having as much power as whole nations? Juries should have been expanded like a lot. At least 20-50-100 of people would make much less affected by some political games and would be less likely to be bribed.
Hey guys, long time fan of the channel here, also Serbian. :) Just for info, Serbia is not located near Russia geographically, its pretty far away actually. Serbia is in the center of the Balkan peninsula, far to the west and south of Russia. Its near Greece, Bulgaria, Croatia, Hungary etc.
@@phueal Probably.... it is a common mistake for people outside of Europe who may not be familiar with our geography. People like also to confuse Switzerland and Sweden, which btw I dont understand since they dont sound anything alike like Serbia and Siberia.
As Finn, its been absolutely crazy to see Finnish song (with Finnish lyrics I mean) to take over the Europe and even the world as it has....with Lordi who won in 2006, I could see the win coming because it was so unique from everything back then, but Käärijä's huge success came out of nowhere for me and to most Finns too propably. As for Loreen, I think she deserves more respect, regardless whether you think she deserved to win or not. Its not her fault that the voting system is 50% jury votes and 50% televoting and the rules are same for everone. Plus even if Tattoo is not as great as Euphoria was (one of best ever if not best Eurovision songs), it was still great performance from her, and anyone who knows what kind of wonderful person she is, cant be mad at her. She is very hard working and deserved that win even if I do agree that the power should be more with the audience because they wanted Käärijä/Cha Cha Cha to win.
@@himechu7048 not Finland fan but actual Finnish citizen here 😄 im just happy overall that our neighbouring countries took 1-2 win this year and that Käärijä was fan favourite. And I admire Loreen too so cant be mad that she won
@@Balnazzardi for sure! I was hoping Sweden would win because the song is so good but wouldn't had complained if Finland won as well (or Norway) since the songs were amazing in their own ways. I just think its sad how much hate both artists are getting especially Loreen so reading a comment that wasn't bashing her while adoring Finland was a surprise.
@@himechu7048 well thats what unfortunately comes with big fanbase that ppl start to be mean to eachother and the other performer, especially if there is competition. I just think its very childish and petty, I understand very well why those who loved Käärijä are disappointed that their votes didnt make him the winner and that jury votes count just as much as televotes, but there is no reason to be mad at her, when she doesnt make the rules, plus her performance was top notch, so I understand very well why juries gave her 12 points. You know what would be great? If both Loreen and Käärijä would perform together in 2024 Eurovision in Sweden...not only would be great and funny to see, I bet both fangroups would love it and could forget about these petty arguments. I know they get well along together and Loreen can be just as silly/goofy as Käärijä is, so I think it would be great for everyone and everyone would be entertained :D Anyhow I just hope both of their careers would get boost from this, in my understanding even when Loreen won in 2012, her career hasnt been exactly easy even in Sweden, so Im hoping she gets new boost from this too. And as for Käärijä, he went from unknown status to crazy popular status all over Europe in matter of weeks, so hopefully he can utilize this success to boost his career into new heights as well.
My god this was so disrespectful to Loreen, she wasn't high!! Eurovision has sniffer dogs all around the arena, it's an event with A LOT of security. You can't just say someone was high because she didn't react the way you expected to, are you even hearing yourself?!?!
They really had some hate agenda towards her in this video and as you said it was so disrespectful to call her high when she was just happy and hadn’t landed on Earth.
@@DarthKay093 She 100% was on something. The artists don't get checked for obvious reasons. It's not like she had anything ON her, but she did take something. A kid could tell that. It doesn't have to be weed or any of the forbidden drugs, so-to-speak. It could have just been a Xanax or any of those sedative type of drugs. But she definitely took something. Oh, and I don't hate. Just stating something REALLY obvious. She actually almost spilled the beans in the interview in the jury vote part. 😂"I'm in a state of....." *rethinks answer* *says something else instead*
@@vl3005 or she like anyone is happy and on cloud 5 after winning. Look at any other winner after their win and they are all looking like they walk on clouds.
Bit biased against Loreen here, also don’t really like how you are trying to force your opinion on the others before they have even watched both Kaaria and Loreen. Yes, the people loved Kaaria but the jury has a purpose too. The jury is there to recognize actual good songs and singing talent, in which case most would agree Loreen is a step above. Kaarias song is fun and well loved, and that’s what the public vote is for. If the public vote decided the winner by itself, Eurovision would only be people sending silly songs trying to become a meme and win that way. It is still a singing competition at its core. You can tell in your reaction as well as nobody except Chris and the Czech lady were talking during Loreens performance, everyone was trying to pay attention to the singing and this was only during Loreens song. Not to be a Loreen stan here, my winner was France, but I feel like I have to come to her defense sometimes because people are being blinded by their love for Kaaria and are just spouting biased nonsense about Loreen.
It's a bit sad how Jane Lynch in this reaction is influencing other opinions before everyone else has had a chance to decide for themselves. Talk about creating a narrative.
The thing is that Loreen has always been into that pop/dance category, and it has always sounded great. It's not really controversial. Loreen won because she edged out Käärijä in the jury vote, even though he led her in telephone votes. She only won by 57 points.
Lots of strategic voting in the televotes though. Iceland didn't even pass from semi 2 despite being one of very few clean acts there. Finland streams Tattoo, voted it fifth in the semi and then in the final gave no televotes at all to Sweden (their jury gave Sweden 12 pt). Televotes cost money and you can vote 20 times per sim-card so it isnt exactly representative either and lots of politicing going on which is why Eurovision reinstated the juries.
@@PossibleBat not at all, using the same chord progression is not plagiarism, it’s not protected by copyright so therefore not plagiarism. I could say Finland’s song was plagiarism but my point still stands.
@@ivyfrost-the-warrior1710 But that is not a big deal. Certainly not in Sweden and surely not for juries all over Europe? How would that change if Sweden wins? It could have been mentioned by any hosting country if they wanted to.
loreen amazing and she deserved to win. Show some respect. The girl made female history in the competition. Thanks to hard work and talent! You completely distorted the election results in Sweden! The audience also gave her a lot of points and her song is also the most played of all in Europe. It's a shame to spread just wrong information!
A single jury member's vote is worth a lot more than a regular voter's though, since there's so few of them and their votes are still worth 50% overall.
Uh. Hi. I'm from Serbia. Serbia is not Siberia, so it's not in Russia. Serbia is in Eastern Europe and it doesn't even come close to bordering Russia. Our first neighbours are Croatia, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Albania, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary and Bosnia. We're a land-locked country and used to be Yugoslavia. I'm surprised the girl from Czechia wouldn't know this.
You were kinda wrong with the voting.The peoples vote is actually worth 51%, (small difference i know). Plus Sweden got the most vites from jury but Sweden got second most votes from the people, so it wasnt just from jury
@@edonveil9887 I don’t really know exactly how it works, the Swedish commentators were talking about the voting system and were joking sarcastically how the people got more power now with 51%
You look all such a nice bunch of people, and this reaction was lovely. Although it was hard to watch as a fan because of the misinformations and strong opinions pre-songs. So with a little bit more work, it's gonna be even better. Thank you for the reaction, cannot wait to see more content on the topic from you =)
Thank you sp much for your support! ❤👍❤👍 I can uderstand why Croatian entry ended up so badly! After all, this is, unlike swallow ignorants oppinion about supposedly "joke entry", somethibg that demands thinking and higher music knowledge and culture: all that's about in huge deficite among the usual ESC fans but as it turns out also amongst juries! 😉 Mama ŠČ from Croatia 🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷 has been hugely misunderstood and undervalued entry since it's large departure from the stereotypical mould in which 99% of the ESC songs are made and are usually more or less trivial or even nonsensical pastiche shallow balades and superficial generic pop with very little to none musical let alone artistic value! Ultra conservative, such balades and pop songs leaning juries that are, as it turns out, also very narrow minded, hypocritical, prejudical, and genre biased, tend to rule out, crush everything they can't grasp - that isn't in line with their very puristic vision of what should high quality song look like! And to be more absurd Mama ŠČ is by many music experts one of the most original and highly valuable entries since it has everything: criptic lyrics that convey very serious and actual messages, it has high music and artistic value, astonishing styling and cleverly arranged punk/ alter. art meets opera performance that is full of symbolism, all packed in high quality instrumentals and arrangements! But almost no-one from very hypocritical, ignorant and superficial juries payed as much as several minutes of their time at one nice thing called Google to check out what is this supposedly "joke entry" really all about, what's the history of Let 3 as the seasoned performers that are here from 1987., band that has been awarded multiple times for their music, had numerous collaborations with renowned theatre directors in highly sucessful theatre music productions.They would be famous if they were coming from England, USA, Sweden and if they've abandoned their native language and became uniformed and globalised! All of that was too hard for this unimaginably shallow, ignorant and narrow minded jury folks and all others that do prefer easy mainstream stereotypical stuff and "safe" choices!
@@ivanbago820 Unfortunatelly, as it turns out you're rather shallow Putinista! But I would be much more worried about your lack of good music taste and level of music knowledge and culture! 😉
I loved Finlands entry but I am not mad that Sweden won because I love Loreen and like others have said Johnny Logan won as a performer twice and had success as a songwriter for Eurovision too. It’s not fair to just call her out like people are for saying it is plagiarism as literally so many of the songs this year could be accused of the same thing because there are only so many chords and chord progressions
@@Pehtori Bonnie Tyler was much more loved and famous and noone voted for her. And Finland has sent commerically successful bands that noone voted for. Loreen was one of very few acts this year with outstanding vocals, she has stage prescence and the song is great. I actually thought Spain's Blanka Paloma was the best singer but I knew that most people would dislike the song or not get Blanka's vocal mastery. And Spain's song Ea ea wasn't as good as Loreen's and got a bit repetitive. Just like Finland's "break" or whatever it's called when Käärijä sang instead of rapped didn't really work for Cha cha cha.
@@tovep9573 You mean the 2nd half of Chax3? That's the part I actually like while the rest I don't find enjoyable to listen to. But yes, he doesn't have sufficient vocal ability to sing that part
@@Teaspooncat Yes that's what I meant. Regardless if you like this style of party song it becomes a lot less effective when you break the momentum like that - even more so as he didn't have very good vocals.
@@randomano8031 she was high on adrenaline and the contest have security to make sure you don’t bring in drugs etc. I have been to eurovision and they let dogs sniff you and Your belongings.
Acting like Loreen wasn't first in the odds for months, and like she didn't get 2nd most points from the ppl, while her song has nearly 100 million Spotify streams, very much deserved her crown, the jury gives points for talent
Unashamed to say I love Eurovision. It's such an eclectic mix of styles and a party atmosphere. I also might be biased (being from the UK), but I think we staged a great show this year with some of the best hosts (and I'm so glad we included a Ukrainian host). I can only imagine how the atmosphere felt during Cha Cha Cha though. You can see in the footage from the final that all the other acts where jumping up and down during it and the crowd where singing/shouting along with it. It must've been amazing for the people there.
Agreed! Apart from the dissapointing final results and the disrespectful audience all three shows were absolutely brilliant! Easily the best show after 2013 and 2016. The hosts had great chemistry and worked well together, the interval acts/guest performers were all great and half of the entries were quite decent
As a European this contest is so culturally interesting like I’m always eager to see what Moldova bring and excited for Italy to do a ballad for the millionth time etc 😂 I really liked Czechia this year and Australia was great too
Loreen was the first woman to win twice but Johnny Logan from Ireland has won twice before too, first in 1980 and then in 1987. Also Loreen is kinda just always like that, she's not high she's just very space-y as a person.
I agree! She’s very spiritual so when she said she was meditating in her mind during that interview I believe her and not the people saying she was on drugs 🤷♀️
I wish people would just get to react to the songs, not knowing who won (if they don't know already) who got which points, or any other backstory. I always prefer reactions without any spoilers from those who have already seen it, no matter if it's Eurovision or movies or TV-series. Somebody who already seen it sitting there saying what they think of everything before the others get to react kinda ruins it, imho.
right! I watch these because I want to see a blind reaction, them sort of knowing the results and thinking Sweden won unfairly is going to affect how they perceive the songs
The reason the person (Loreen) singing for Sweden sang in eurovision is cause she won something called "melodifestivalen" its a singing show where people compete to be in eurovision. The one who has the best song or gets number 1 gets to compete in eurovision and she won thats why she came again. Hope this helped!
Johnny Logan has won twice and is regarded like the king of Eurovision, but the same people hate on Loreen because "it's not fair to win twice". The ESC community can be absolutely wonderful, but also toxic as fuck. And here I am loving that Loreen won, both because the song is amazing and because I'm a swede, and at the same time loving that Käärija got 2nd place because that song is great. My two favourites this year game 1st and 2nd. Can't complain.
Actually many people don't like Johnny Logan's second victory either. And I agree, I don't want to see past winners trying again because why? They already won, they had their time and they got the attention and The possibilities that comes with winning ESC. I guess they weren't satisfied with The results of their first win.
Thats true...but I think ppl are somewhat right that televoting should matter more than jury voting, because its after all where much of the money comes from to Eurovision. Maybe something like 60% televotes and 40% jury votes or how its here in Finland with our preliminary competition for Eurovision where 75% of total votes are formed from audience votes and only 25% are jury votes
She came second, but second by a LONG way. The public voted very clearly for Käärijä, it’s not like it was close but he happened to win or anything like that.
@@wilgyl19 Dude, last year was special case and you know exactly why.....you cant honestly be mad at that, considering what is happening to Ukraine....
@@Balnazzardi How many special cases could it be in the future? And how much more fair could it be? I mean Finland was the only country whom didn't give Sweden any televotes. She got high from the other countries. How is that fair then? Or what is that a special case too? Sweden gave their televote - 12, to Finland cuz we played it fairly. And what happens when the Finnish commentator literally urges to not specifically NOT vote for Sweden. Are those the people who should chose the winner? Its never going to be 100% fair. It can't be. Cha Cha Cha was good, but Tattoo slightly better. It's a hit, not a winner. now... COPE
Keep on complaining about the juries but you want Austria to win? What the heck. The only reasons Austria placed well was because of the juries. The crowd did not vote for them. I don't know, seems hypocritical to me.
For me Sweden was the true winner. Finland was good but not a winner for me, though if they would've won i wouldnt be upset. The results that shocked me most, were the ones from Austria, Norway, Lithuania and Albania. I loved Croatia for their message of anti everything haha. I actually thought there were better songs this year overall, more then usual. So i didnt know who would win and i loved that.
just a few observations: 1. serbia is nowhere near russia - it's closer to italy than to russia - but, they are historically connected because of orthodox christianity religion 2. there is one national competition where we choose our entry for eurovision - then that entry has to pass a semi-final (once) to enter the finale. 3. eurovision was always super-inclusive, not just this year (especially regarding lgbt+) regarding sweeden, she was great, there's no shame in this entry winning, she deserved it, but finland captured the moment - he was the winner of our hearts
this reaction was so disappointing cause the blonde girl really tried to "manipulate" the rest by feeding them constantly wrong information and her own beliefs. Tattoo and Euphoria are not the same song. It's Loreen's signature style with big vocals. Also, she never mentioned that Sweden actually came 2nd in the televote. Saying that the juries gave her such a big lead that it was impossible for Finland to beat is simply untrue. Sweden won fair and square because they had the overall best song and a singer who is extremely talented and charismatic. A pioneer in the Eurovision song contest. I'm really glad that the left side of the couch didn't really buy all that and really praised loreen. Even saying that Loreen was high during her winning performanc... it was like I was reading hate tweets about Loreen. Please do better next time
I wish they read the comments and would see yours because I don’t think they realised how much negative things they were basically spreading about Loreen. And the blonde girl was straight up lying to the others about multiple things.
Speaking as a resident of Liverpool, it's worth saying the Eurovision organisation and city planners did a wonderful job making this first and foremost Ukraine's Eurovision, rather than England's - if that makes sense. Street parties for the hub of Ukrainian immigrants, markets with hand crafted pieces and art made by and profitting Ukrane, as well as a lot of art exhibits propping up across the city to celebrate the real hosts. All this without mentioning the insane number of music events spontaneously popping up on the daily. Anecdotal, but I did come upon a Ukranian couple who managed to travel to the event for the final, and when being interviewed for a news broadcast, said they felt this was the most faithful location to host if for them that they could have asked for, such was the emphasis on it being their turn to host, not the UKs. Overall, the mood in the city was we were beyond humbled to host if for them, given the war, and took every opportunity we could to celebrate Eurovision and Ukraine.
That may be the case, but the show itself still felt like a huge UK masturbation. Sooo much UK and then a 2 minute speedrun of the past Ukraine winners and then.. more UK? And Charles and Camilla were there too for some reason? And why did they play so many English songs? How is this about Ukraine? (IT ISNT)
@@SpenceJS87 Ukraine may have gotten a lot of extra votes due to the war, however not only do we not know who would have gotten Ukraine's sympathy votes (Spain, the UK and Sweden were very close in points so any of them had the possibility to come 1st) but the situation/entries/anything, could have been completely different if the war didn't happen. We just have no way of knowing
@Alicia Samali maybe, that's a good theory. But we know the votes of a country can drastically differ from those of another. So really, only way to know for sure is if we got to see it, but we didn't, so 🤷🏻♀️.
About the Croatian song. It is of course anti-war and anti-dictator, a satire. Putin and the war in Ukraine inspired. The government of Belarus gave Putin a tractor on his 70th birthday, so that's why you have tractor in the lyrics. Who the hell is Edgar, a fun song, but also is about how women artists sometimes do not get the same recognition as men, that's why she credits Edgar Allan Poe for her work. The 0,003 number refers to what the songwriters get paid for a stream on Spotify I think.
Tbh both Finland and Sweden were good in different ways. Sweden got the second highest votes from the public after Finland so its not like she only won on jury votes even tho she got many. As a swede id prefer Finland to win bc I think he deserved that but it is what it is. The Finland artist is very good friends with loreen and wants the best for her. Its a compitition. Its sad tho that Loreen got so much hate after eurovison over something thats not her fault.
Jag önskade faktiskt att Finland skulle vinna när det blev tydligt att de skulle få majoriteten av tittarrösterna för jag kunde känna på mig att vi skulle få skit för det online
@@itsclaaara Jo jag ville hellre att dom skulle vinna också men nu blev det ju inte så! De är ju inte som att loreen var klappkass, ja mena hon fick ju jäkligt många tittarröster också, andra efter Finlands artist. De spelar ingen roll vem som skulle ha vunnit över Finland så skulle vilket bidrag som helst få skit. De är en tävling. De här kommer glömmas bort sen.
kind of wish you guys let the others react more blindly to the songs, regardless of the results. It would have been nice to see the others reaction to sweden and finland, not knowing who won.
Indeed, they're forcing their own thoughts on the others. Let them have the experience of discovering things for themselves. Express your own view after.
You guys said some stuff that didn't make sense. When talking about Austria placing so low, you seem to be talking about the juries messing up. But the jury gave Austria 8th place. The public gave Austria 22nd place.
Johnny logan was the first person to win twice for ireland (but loreen is the first woman to win twice) with tattoo and one of the most famous entries (modern day anyway) euphoria
People weren’t nearly as upset when Duncan Lawrence (The Netherlands) won over Keiino (Norway) in 2019, even though Keiino won the people’s votes. And now Duncan Lawrence’s song is one of the (if not THE) most popular Eurovision songs ever. Just saying.
You can disagree with the winner all you want but there's no need to be an ass about it! Ukraine won last year only because of the war and Europes sympathy..
Jury votes are not worth more. But other than that I guess it was fine. I didn't really care for the Finland contribution but I didn't really care for Sweden either. ( I am European if that matters, I watch this shit every year.) Either way no one has ever complained before when anyone has won due to getting a lot of 12s from the jury which is pretty unfair that people all of a sudden care. It has happened so many times before it's crazy. Sweden got the 2nd most votes from the people didn't they? Or 3rd. It's not as outrageous as people are making it out to be at all. It just seems unfair that all of a sudden people care about a country getting a lot of 12s when it has happened so many times before. Hypocricy is the worst thing to me. The real problem with people votes are wokeism. People have won who really shouldn't have before due to that and people votes.
Exactly! In 2022 the people's vote robbed the UK, in favor for sympathy for Ukraine. Glad the normies acknowledge Sweden. Yes, Finland had the energetic performance, but Sweden sang way better. Sweden deservingly won.
@@AshwinRamdin Yeah people seem to have a short memory since what happened last year. Even though Finland had an exciting performance that got everyone involved, the song is only good in the chorus, it's more of a silly hype song.
It's a general understanding that songs about "partying, dancing & having fun" that dress wacky, are trolls that don't want to win because Eurovison is expensive to host. So an entry like that whose lyrics are "mess my head up" etc while partying & drinkig 🇫🇮... It's really typical when something positive & empowering to women can & did happen, some trolls need to sour it with some macho BS and normal people jump on the train.
@@elincarlsson6388 Käärijä is not a troll and he definitely wanted to win. Finland wanted to host ESC so badly. The song isn't about being macho, it's actually an anti-drinking song. It criticizes the Finnish alcohol culture.
@@rumaristo129 Vaikea monien on tuota tietää kun heillä ei ole tekstityksiä, eikä tämä millään selviä esityksestä tai lavastuksesta. Useat varmaan ajattelee, että tää on vitsinumero koska Käärijä (ja hänen tanssijat) on pukeutunut ja tanssii niin naurettavasti. Myöski hänen lauluääni on livenä vitsin tasoa. Mutta kiva kun tuli kakkoseksi. Ehkä tästä seuraa parempia ehdokkaita (UMK:ssa) edustajiksi seuraavina vuosina. Tai sitten emtistä huonompia..
@@Teaspooncat Kyllä joka maan viisulähetyksissä on tekstitykset, mutta ymmärrän kyllä että ulkomaalaisen on hankala kontekstualisoida tuota esitystä esim. suomalaiseen ns. ryyppyräppiin tai suhteessa ylipäätään suomalaiseen huumorimusiikkiin. Mutta ovathan kahjot esitykset euroviisuissa ennenkin pärjänneet ja huumoribiiseillä on menty monta kertaa viiden parhaan joukkoon. Siksi tuossa aiemmassa kommentissa ei musta oikein ollut järkeä
Happy to see your reaction to Croatia. And glad it make you laugh. There is so much meaning behind this song, one could write a book about it, despite lyrics being very simple. Every part has been well thought out and has many messages!
Okay this video was a bit biased imo, should've discussed the "controversy" after watching the videos first and also you didn't play Loreen's actual performance from the grand final, you played the winner performance, after she won. She was still amazing (best winner's performance imo), but just saying that she wasn't even trying in this one.
Well, they also reacted to Finland's semifinal performance which wasn't nearly as good as the final one. But I agree, It would have been better to see Loreen's actual performance to get the full picture.
I understand Marketa's disappointment with Sweden's win. Loreen's Euphoria from 2012 is still played in dance clubs around the world and her performance this year just sounded too familiar and was honestly less amazing than the first time around.
Ye, I mean if same performer comes with song thats simply not as good or better, its understandable why public rallied behind Finland/Käärijä more than behind Loreen this time around. without Käärijä ofc Sweden/Loreen likely would have gotten lot more votes from public, but this time they had different favorite.
I don't even think Tattoo sounds similar to Euphoria at all. I just genuinely don't like the song. The melody is just inane to me. Euphoria is a banger.
@@Balnazzardi A lot of the people who voted for Cha Cha Cha probably wouldn't be the ones to vote for Tatoo. Wasn't Cha Cha Cha there probably Serbia and Germany wouldn't have done as bad as they did, and the other electronicy and rock/metaly songs would have done better as well.
This Eurovision was the most American, disrespectful crowd and undermining the winner. She was first in Jury and second in Televotes. If the song wasn’t popular, she would have tanked the televote. It’s 50/50 Jury and Televote so the jury isn’t worth more annoying dude. I love Käärija, but the song wasn’t for me. He’s just so charismatic though. But the undermining a deserving winner who was also clearly a favorite is just ridiculous at this point. She’s the second to win twice, first was Irelands Johnny Logan.
Our croatian performance was the one from our national final though. BUT a better version, since Eurovision censored a few things. Glad you all liked it though :)
So many no true things saied by the lady with short blonde hair. Serbia is Not near Russia. Not at all. And there were other ppl that won at Eurovision twice. And... the jury votes are not higher ranked than the ppl votes it's 50/50. Lady is talking about what she doesn't know
Totally the opposite for me, I like the song actually, but it shouldn't have participated because the song is very political and it goes literally against the rules of the contest, to send political entries
Very disappointing to see the blatant bias against Loreen in this reaction, to the point of influencing all the other reactors too. Loreen won the jury vote and came second with televoting so it's not like the jury votes hard carried her. And you can't complain about people placing low (Austria) as they got voted mostly by the jury and the televote did them so dirty. Being a little more open hearted and kind will do you wonders. Being a sore loser is an ugly look.
“it sounds the same” euphoria and tattoo sound nothing alike??? y’all just bitter that she won and she deserved to win. the song is literally number 3 or 4 on global Spotify right now. SHE DESERVED IT.
Yes. A singer who has their style and makes songs in a specific genre is the norm. That shouldn’t be surprising. Them saying that it sounds the same is probably just excuses to try to deflect their bitterness on something concrete instead of accepting that their disappointment is rooted in their own personal desires.
I think Navi and Pat will love the fact that the glorious Hannah Waddingham from Ted Lasso hosted this year Eurovision. She became the new Queen of Eurovision.
I wish they watched the whole final because all of it was really really great from the presenters to the interval acts (other performances etc.) and certainly most of the entries. Apart from the final results it was overall a lot better than last year's show
hey, love the videos (I will be every year here for you) quick corrections from a fellow European -The jury votes don't count more than the people's votes (it's 50/50, sweden just got so many jury votes, that finland didn't win overall with al points combined) -Serbia is not in Russia and it's not close either, there are 3 countries in between (two really big ones Romania and Ukraine), but it's not a known country to most so I can understand the mistake -Eurovision was gay in your face even when Russia was taking part (it's not a new thing) -more people have one more times in the past (Ireland once won 3 times with the same person) *personal quirk I love the moment you say American and not English for the language xD
The jury votes are not equal to the public vote, they count less today. The reason is a rest of the world category was added this year so there was 37 jury group and 38 public vote groups. Remove one group from each for the number that can vote for a country because you can vote for your own.
So many confident wrong statements in this one. - juries and televote is 50/50, so no, the jury vote is not worth more, but the key to winning is getting points from both. Finland got 5th from juries (still very high) and 1st in televote. Sweden got 1st in juries and 2nd in televote (for reference, her televote was big enough to win it most years, so its not like she was ignored by the public). - Loreen is the first female performer to win twice, but it has happened before. Johnny Logan won twice as a performer for Ireland in the 80s and then won a third time as a composer in the 90s. - It is not uncommon that the "peoples champion" doesn't win in the end. It happened in 2016 when Jamala won without winning jury OR televote (won by Australia and Russia respectively), and in 2019 when Duncan Laurence won with Arcade (Norway won the televote). This "controversy" is not new and it will blow over like it alway does. The rules are known going in to the competition, you need to do good in both to win. - Loreen was NOT high. I can understand if people unfamiliar with her would think so, but that is her personality. Very aloof. And if you think she actually performed like that while being high, then there should be no doubt at all on whether she derserved the win, cause that would be crazy impressive! - Israel was 3rd, Italy 4th.
It’s not uncommon that the televote winner doesn’t win. 4/10 times in the last 10 competitions has ended with someone winning that didn’t get the most points in the televote. It sounds like you are trying to make it appear as a big controversy this year. One of those who won but didn’t get the most televotes were The Netherlands in 2019 with the song Arcade. However, that song has become the most played song on Spotify in the history of all songs that have ever been in Eurovision. So it’s extremely loved by the public, yet it didn’t win the televote. I would argue that the televote isn’t the holy grail and that it’s not the “true winner” as people always say year after year. I have watched every Eurovision since 1999, but I’ve never voted because it costs money. I wish they could make it so that you could vote for free and limit the amounts of votes that you can cast. That would make it much more fair and include as many viewers as possible to have their say. As it is now, a single person can vote 20 times for the same song as long as they are willing to pay for it.
@@АлексейЗаботкин-т1х I'm sorry but you're mistaken. Lots of *countries* have won more than once, but Johnny Logan and Loreen are the only artists to have won twice.
I love how passionate Marketa was about Käärijä being robbed the first place. 😂 It has been amazing to see how our goofy Finnish guy has united people from all over the world with this song, we are very proud of him. Chris and Marketa are my favourite Normies, so it's a bit surreal to see them talk about Cha Cha Cha.
I think next year you should live stream a reaction to the whole show. Make it a party. Get all the normies on the couch. Play eurovision bingo or drinking game or something. Boo, clap and cheer. Fight amongst each other over what the best song is. It wil be so much fun.
You said that the Juries had more votes, that's not true. Normally it's 50/50, but this year "the rest of the world" vote counted as one country, making the it 37 juries and 38 televoting countries. So the juries had just 58 points less to give so 2146p jury/2204 p televote.
I loved both of the top 2 coutnries, and wouldn't mind if anyone of those won, both were great in 2 different ways, but let's make something clear, Eurovision is a place where you bring people from different places to celebrate music, to celebrate their own cultures, and yes there is the competition format, but let's be honest, it doesn't really matter! There's no significant prize, nor does the winner get any big notoriety or career boost after winning, so why are we fighting? It's just a format, and at the end of the day, what matters should be that we get some fun, upbeat, cooky melodies all in one show. Let's stop this camping that goes against the very nature of the show!
A lot of countries held music competitions. They would perform it once, make it to the finals, perform again and win. Then, they have to perform it for the semi-finals, again for the jury and then, at the final. So many times.
Yes! Was so hoping you guys would do Eurovision again this year. Shame you didn't do Estonia (legit phenomenal performance) and Moldova (crazy as shit, up there with Finland)
Actually, there's another artist, Johnny Logan who won the contest twice before. First time in 1980, and second time in 1987. Both times, he was representing Ireland.
Jury vote and televote is both 50 50% and the combination of both decides who is the winner. Jury vote is where judging panel from every country vote for their top 10 performances. Whoever they thought deserves to be #1 will receive 12 points, following is 10 points and so forth. (Sweden placed 1st in jury vote, Finland was 4th) then they announce the tele-vote which is basically the people audience voting. Finland placed first in the tele vote. Sweden was placed 2nd in tele vote. So overall Sweden got total 580ish points while Finland got 520ish points. Hence Sweden was the winner this year. The controversy was not because of Loreen or whether she won before or the song. It’s because next year is ABBA’s 50 year anniversary. ABBA is Swedish pop group, it’s an iconic group (they sing the song Dancing Queen). They won Eurovision with the song Waterloo in 1974. So a lot of people are saying Eurovision rigged the voting to give Sweden win this year so then Sweden will host the next year’s Eurovision in 2024 (winner of the year before hosts the next year). Obviously Eurovision will market and advertise ABBA and its 50th year anniversary to make more money. Loreen the singer represented Sweden got so much hate for it because of it. Again this is just a controversy, nothing is confirmed or anything. To me both were wonderful. There are always some debate on who should have won every year at Eurovision so to me this is just an another one.
Y'all crazy on here trying to make the Loreen's result not worthy for a second winning, the song and the visuals are mesmerizing. A truly deserve winner and an historic woman on the Eurovision already. So so freaking happy for this ❤
The song was almost a copy of Euphoria, but worse... Finland were original, had better staging, and were more crowd pleasing, and the televote proved it. So, with all due respect to Sweden, no - they did not deserve the win. AGAIN, without taking anything from Loreen's talent. She's VERY talented, to say the least... but the overall act was nothing close to a winner. Disclaimer: I'm neither a Swede or a Finn.
@@vl3005 And yet we are here...the jury votes placed her on top and televotes placed her second (finland won the televotes)...but combined she won...what part of the voting system don't you understand!?...just get over it and move on! ".....Finland were original, had better staging, and were more crowd pleasing, and the televote proved it....."...well, a a subjective opinion doesn't make it the right opinion!?................just get over it and move on!
@@ingvarkamprad9441 The jury is the opinion of a few, the televote is the opinion of millions. What don't YOU understand? I get it, you're a Swede and you're in Euphoria right now (see what I did there? 😉) but as a non-Swede and non-Finn, I'm definitely more objective than you, and the tens of millions who voted for Finland surpass the tens of millions who voted for Sweden by a landslide. Add that to the fact that the Jury votes are mostly (if not totally) political - and you got yourself a scandal. I don't NOT accept the win, couldn't care less, but I don't like people defending the win when it's clearly politically motivated and in direct contrast to the people's opinion by a VERY huge margin. You should just celebrate this win quietly and not go all bananas attacking people who speak their neutral opinions on social networks. Hope this clears up everything.
@@vl3005 finland weren't orginal either, neither was Norway because they sound similar to other songs as well, not just loreens. And don't be a hypocrite, why can't people criticise you for your opinion but you can criticise people for their opinion. Let people have different opinions to you don't throw your opinion down peoples throat just because you didn't think she deserved to win, if people think she deserved to win let them. I wanted Finland to win, it was always going to between those two, I couldn't care less who won and unlike you I won't attack people for thinking she deserved the win
So before saying that around Russia are small countries, first learn some geography, I know that Americans don't know it, but try and history and how much countries America invaded, more then Russia
What people don't realize is the fact it's called Eurovision Song Contest for a GOOD REASON. When there is a "contest" there is always a presence of juries or judges that evaluate a performance/song/etc. You have heard of a spelling bee Contest, national pie contest, national giant pumpkin contest, etc. It's NOT like American Idol where the final say/vote is 100% televote (that's what people outside of Europe think when they see Eurovision (American Idol meets the Olympics)). The juries have been established since 1956, the year when Eurovision was founded and it has been a staple of voting. There is NO way the EBU decided to make 100% televote, otherwise it would be an imbalance for the other songs to have a say in terms of performance and staging. If you wanted to make a 100% televote Grand Final and scraping out the juries, why not just rename the competition as a whole. Instead of Eurovision Song Contest, why not just Eurovision or Eurovision Song Competition.
I'm not against the presence of juries per se, but Eurovision did have a 100% televote system from the late 90s to 2008 (note: under exceptional circumstances a jury could be used in case televoting for some reason didn't work, and for two years, 2001-2002, every country was able to make their own choice between 100% televoting or 50/50). This was changed in 2009, when the 50/50 system was introduced and made mandatory. So when people are saying they wanna ditch the juries it's not unprecedented; they're essentially saying they want to go back to the time before 2009.
@@tocraneandcrane The jury system was only reintroduced cause countries that have money complained they would leave the contest because of East European dominance in the 2000s, largely cause they took the contest seriously and sent good entries while West Europe was sending jokes, and then had the audacity to complain why nobody voted for them.
Marketa if you saw the program live you could also vote from the USA. The rest of the world besides Europe was considered as a single country that awarded its points. Did you vote?
Look...everyone...you are not judging euro competition from the"weirdness and oddity perspective". It is the best song, the best performance, the best musician etc. The freak show sheit is for a snicker or a laugher that is all. Thor forbid having the general Ibiza/Tulum-going crowd actually deciding who wins.
Pat is confusing Serbia and Siberia. Siberia is part of Russia.
He also thought Europeans put Sweden in high regard due to Swiss banking
@@Conor_Stanley Exactly! Wrong and bizarre in any comment. Can you also imagine people voting for Switzerland because of Swiss banking? 🤯
@@Conor_Stanley his american was really showing 💀
@@andyt8216frrrrr and he hated on lukes jawline while bro doesnt even have one
Another year, another Normies Eurovision reaction video where no one does their homework about the show and just keeps "teaching" false information to others. "Italy 4th", "Austria performed 13th", "jury vote is worth more", "Loreen being the first person to win twice"... Guys, please, just print the Wikipage for the show or something to have in front of you the next time. And a map of Europe, while you're at it. I adore your reactions to other TV shows, but your Eurovision videos could definitely use more work.
Very true. It's painful to watch. I will say with the austria being 13th she called that out and said it was 13th place preforming and they got lower on the final order after the votes
When it comes to US Americans reacting to Eurovision, they're one of the most enjoyable ones imo. I do prefer their reactions to Buffy and other shows I watch. But I do like their ESC reactions, they don't say stuff that's as bad as many other channels. xD
"Coz Europeans put Sweden in high regard, like the Swiss bank and stuff".
My brother in christ, Sweden and Switzerland are two different countries. The SWISS bank is in Switzerland.
”Europeans put Sweden in high regard, you know like swiss banking and stuff” THE WAY SNORTED
You have no idea what this win means to 🇸🇪. It's like the secound comming, our religion is music, despite being a small country we are HUGE in the music industry, which people don't seem to know, (mistake us for American or something) so to get recognition is amazing!
@@elincarlsson6388 Jag tror hon menade det som att det var lite okunnigt från de som tittade att tro Sverige och Schweiz vara samma.
Austria and Australia, Sweden and Switzerland. All of them forever doomed to be mixed up
@@supersuede6493 I have mixed feelings. On one hand I love that Sweden won because then it will be hosted there again (hopefully with Petra), and I didn't want Finland to come 1st bcs even tho I'm a Finn I don't love the song (only 24th for me from all the entries this year) and I found him to be bad at singing. On the other hand Tattoo is without a doubt a great song, but not only were there more than ten songs I preferred to win I also much preferred Sweden's 2022 entry and think it/Cornelia deserved the win instead of Tattoo. So I very much don't know how to feel, other than relief over Finland not winning, and happiness and pride over Cornelia getting invited to perform on the esc stage again
@@elincarlsson6388 Sweden's music industry is 90% boring pop songs lmao
7:11 actually Serbia is Balkans, south-east Europe, one of ex Yugoslavia countries, not near or around Russia, 24:16 exactly, Swiss=Switzerland & bank$, thnx Navi, 24:45 legendary Johnny Logan was first to win twice ˙80/´87 for Ireland, 34:20 yes, it`s anti-war satire, this year Croatia said f*ck that shit, all great observations Damarin & Chris, 34:30 no concrete ŠČ meaning, just trolling with letters of slavic alphabets, they wanted to make distinctive sound not common in anglophone countries. great reaction, thnx guys.
17:50 You cannot complain about the jury and then Austria's low placement at the same time. The jury gave them 104 points, the public gave them 16. They placed 15th overall. With public vote only, they'd have placed 23rd. Jury would have put them 8th.
Exactly. Hypocrite shit from these bitches
The same goes for Spain. The juries like that song and the public did not and yet people complain that Spain finished so low. You can’t hate on the jury only when it benefits your own personal opinion and then agree with them on another song.
@@emmaaaa1004 💯
@@emmaaaa1004 EXACTLY!! The juries gave too much points to both Sweden and Finland this year, but on almost everything else they got it right, saved many songs that deserved a lot more from the public. Thank you both for these comments
Also last year people were complaining about televotes and now they're complaining about jury votes LOL
Loreen is not a drug user or any other substance abuser. Get a grip and learn the person behind the character she portrays.
She's a very spiritual and free-minded person. She's also very eccentric person which in most social circumstances comes off as a person that is very aloof and chill/played back person.
Marketa I am a long time follower both here and on Patreon and I appreciate you and your opinions and views. But the disrespectful slander and attempt to sway the others views or opinions was not okay and I am hurt to see it. Loreen as many stated won it fairly and without any controversy or back stage fiddling. She came first in jury vote who base their judgement on performance, vocals, song writing and staging. She came SECOND in televotes while Käärijä came fourth in jury judgement and first in televotes. Had he been at least better than third place in jury vote he might have clinched it.
There is already a mount everest high hate on Loreen from bitter fans online, don't throw gasoline into the fire please.
This video was just full of misinformation lol. It isn't that hard to pull out a phone and google the final score. Or the fact that Johnny Logan has won Eurovision 2 times. All the unnecessary comments about Loreen were a bit disrespectful as well, like it has never been confirmed that she was taking any substances. So to spit that out like it's a fact seems a bit rude. It also sounded like Loreen won solely based on the jury when she also got the 2nd highest vote by the public. This is not uncommon in Eurovision that the artist with the most televotes isn't the winner (Netherlands 2019, Ukraine 2016 to name a few).
My personal favorites this year was Norway, Finland and Czechia. So while I was a bit sad neither of them won, I was happy that they got a well deserved placement instead (top 10).
My favs was Finland, Norway and Sweden...in any order!
She’s the first woman to win twice, but Johnny Logan already won twice for Ireland
Logan wrote music, this one sings what others write
@@АлексейЗаботкин-т1х Loreen also writes music? And Logan won twice as a singer.
I hope she participates again in some years so she wins 3 times
I think he actually won three times
@@LauFTW the third time he was the songwriter not the singer
I don't like that you presented a bias even before letting anyone hear the songs, let them listen first and say what they thought without judgement and prior influence!
Ja. Detta var en av de sämre reaktionerna jag har sett och hon i det blonda håret förstörde hela reaktionen med hur mycket hon hatade på vinnaren.
True!
@@DarthKay093 haha alla som hatar loreen är så jävla fula, verkligen without fail. blondinen ser ut exakt som man förväntar sig
Next year don’t tell them who won first, let them guess & pick their favourites first.
She wanted them aboard the Finland hype train :p
Yes, it was annoying also when they couldn´t accept the people saying they liked Sweden. They where like "no, you are not supposed to like that one, what about chachacha?" Let people have their opinions, THAT is what Eurovision is about more than anything. Every single person in my household voted for different acts, and I wouldn't wanna have it any other way.
You should do every finalist. They deserve it
LMAOOO NO THEY DONT. Germany for example, and moldova.
@@Widen03 What? They absolutely do! Except Blanka maybe
@@Widen03 Moldova doesn't? You alright there buddy? They were great. Moldova, Slovenia, France, Spain, Estonia, Belgium, NORWAY, ...
@@samukiss-korbel7853 Except Blanka, yes. I have to agree with that one :D
@@Widen03 did you hear germany? they were rocking the arena
Wait a minute, juries and people's votes are equal. You slandered loreen (Sweden) the whole video without mentioning she was the second televote favourite - so her winning is not that big of a deal. There's been many times where a televote or jury winner didn't win the whole thing lol
Also it was the televote that didn't reward Austria.
No Chris, the jury vote isn't worth more. It used to be 50/50, but this year the televote was worth slightly more, about 50.6%
Juries made of 5 people each with "music experts" show their "strenght" here. Hopefully next year its 75% televote 25% jury.
where did you come up with that 50.6% figure? Based on the "everyone else" televote? It's 50-50, each country's jury has 58 points and each country's televote has 58.
@@GaviLazan I think it was due to the fact that we had the "rest of the world" vote this year and as far as I know they only had a televote, no jury.
@@itsgoodiewoodie no thanks, televote already screwed over other songs
@@itsgoodiewoodie Nah Jury is an important concept. But it needs restructuring and a lot of changes. 4/5 people per country having as much power as whole nations? Juries should have been expanded like a lot. At least 20-50-100 of people would make much less affected by some political games and would be less likely to be bribed.
Hey guys, long time fan of the channel here, also Serbian. :) Just for info, Serbia is not located near Russia geographically, its pretty far away actually. Serbia is in the center of the Balkan peninsula, far to the west and south of Russia. Its near Greece, Bulgaria, Croatia, Hungary etc.
Pretty sure he was confusing you with Siberia 😉
@@phueal Probably.... it is a common mistake for people outside of Europe who may not be familiar with our geography.
People like also to confuse Switzerland and Sweden, which btw I dont understand since they dont sound anything alike like Serbia and Siberia.
@@Niki91-HR Austria and Australia 😅
@@Teaspooncat yes...that one too
will be fun if you do a part 2 with others finalist like france, norway, portugal, armenia, estonia, czechia and albania.
I think it is a very good selection you made
As Finn, its been absolutely crazy to see Finnish song (with Finnish lyrics I mean) to take over the Europe and even the world as it has....with Lordi who won in 2006, I could see the win coming because it was so unique from everything back then, but Käärijä's huge success came out of nowhere for me and to most Finns too propably.
As for Loreen, I think she deserves more respect, regardless whether you think she deserved to win or not. Its not her fault that the voting system is 50% jury votes and 50% televoting and the rules are same for everone. Plus even if Tattoo is not as great as Euphoria was (one of best ever if not best Eurovision songs), it was still great performance from her, and anyone who knows what kind of wonderful person she is, cant be mad at her. She is very hard working and deserved that win even if I do agree that the power should be more with the audience because they wanted Käärijä/Cha Cha Cha to win.
most respectful finland fan i've seen so far holy shit
@@himechu7048 not Finland fan but actual Finnish citizen here 😄 im just happy overall that our neighbouring countries took 1-2 win this year and that Käärijä was fan favourite. And I admire Loreen too so cant be mad that she won
@@Balnazzardi for sure! I was hoping Sweden would win because the song is so good but wouldn't had complained if Finland won as well (or Norway) since the songs were amazing in their own ways. I just think its sad how much hate both artists are getting especially Loreen so reading a comment that wasn't bashing her while adoring Finland was a surprise.
@@himechu7048 well thats what unfortunately comes with big fanbase that ppl start to be mean to eachother and the other performer, especially if there is competition. I just think its very childish and petty, I understand very well why those who loved Käärijä are disappointed that their votes didnt make him the winner and that jury votes count just as much as televotes, but there is no reason to be mad at her, when she doesnt make the rules, plus her performance was top notch, so I understand very well why juries gave her 12 points.
You know what would be great? If both Loreen and Käärijä would perform together in 2024 Eurovision in Sweden...not only would be great and funny to see, I bet both fangroups would love it and could forget about these petty arguments. I know they get well along together and Loreen can be just as silly/goofy as Käärijä is, so I think it would be great for everyone and everyone would be entertained :D
Anyhow I just hope both of their careers would get boost from this, in my understanding even when Loreen won in 2012, her career hasnt been exactly easy even in Sweden, so Im hoping she gets new boost from this too. And as for Käärijä, he went from unknown status to crazy popular status all over Europe in matter of weeks, so hopefully he can utilize this success to boost his career into new heights as well.
My god this was so disrespectful to Loreen, she wasn't high!! Eurovision has sniffer dogs all around the arena, it's an event with A LOT of security. You can't just say someone was high because she didn't react the way you expected to, are you even hearing yourself?!?!
They really had some hate agenda towards her in this video and as you said it was so disrespectful to call her high when she was just happy and hadn’t landed on Earth.
@@DarthKay093 She 100% was on something. The artists don't get checked for obvious reasons. It's not like she had anything ON her, but she did take something. A kid could tell that.
It doesn't have to be weed or any of the forbidden drugs, so-to-speak. It could have just been a Xanax or any of those sedative type of drugs. But she definitely took something.
Oh, and I don't hate. Just stating something REALLY obvious. She actually almost spilled the beans in the interview in the jury vote part. 😂"I'm in a state of....." *rethinks answer* *says something else instead*
@@vl3005 or she like anyone is happy and on cloud 5 after winning. Look at any other winner after their win and they are all looking like they walk on clouds.
Bit biased against Loreen here, also don’t really like how you are trying to force your opinion on the others before they have even watched both Kaaria and Loreen. Yes, the people loved Kaaria but the jury has a purpose too. The jury is there to recognize actual good songs and singing talent, in which case most would agree Loreen is a step above. Kaarias song is fun and well loved, and that’s what the public vote is for. If the public vote decided the winner by itself, Eurovision would only be people sending silly songs trying to become a meme and win that way. It is still a singing competition at its core. You can tell in your reaction as well as nobody except Chris and the Czech lady were talking during Loreens performance, everyone was trying to pay attention to the singing and this was only during Loreens song. Not to be a Loreen stan here, my winner was France, but I feel like I have to come to her defense sometimes because people are being blinded by their love for Kaaria and are just spouting biased nonsense about Loreen.
It's a bit sad how Jane Lynch in this reaction is influencing other opinions before everyone else has had a chance to decide for themselves. Talk about creating a narrative.
The thing is that Loreen has always been into that pop/dance category, and it has always sounded great. It's not really controversial. Loreen won because she edged out Käärijä in the jury vote, even though he led her in telephone votes. She only won by 57 points.
Lots of strategic voting in the televotes though. Iceland didn't even pass from semi 2 despite being one of very few clean acts there. Finland streams Tattoo, voted it fifth in the semi and then in the final gave no televotes at all to Sweden (their jury gave Sweden 12 pt). Televotes cost money and you can vote 20 times per sim-card so it isnt exactly representative either and lots of politicing going on which is why Eurovision reinstated the juries.
Also she’s constantly accused of plagiarism, and it is plagiarism 😂
@@PossibleBat not at all, using the same chord progression is not plagiarism, it’s not protected by copyright so therefore not plagiarism. I could say Finland’s song was plagiarism but my point still stands.
The controversy also lies in the fact that ABBA’s anniversary is next year
@@ivyfrost-the-warrior1710 But that is not a big deal. Certainly not in Sweden and surely not for juries all over Europe? How would that change if Sweden wins? It could have been mentioned by any hosting country if they wanted to.
loreen amazing and she deserved to win.
Show some respect. The girl made female history in the competition.
Thanks to hard work and talent!
You completely distorted the election results in Sweden! The audience also gave her a lot of points and her song is also the most played of all in Europe.
It's a shame to spread just wrong information!
the jury votes are not worth more, actually slightly less than the televoting :)
they are so ignorant
Yeah but they won’t know that and won’t care to find out. Smh
It’s literally 50/50 between jury and peopled vote in how much they are worth.
Since the public from the rest of the world could vote, the public had a bit more power
@@user-ek3ri7gv8e why did it have more power? is it because of the "rest of the world" vote?
A single jury member's vote is worth a lot more than a regular voter's though, since there's so few of them and their votes are still worth 50% overall.
Uh. Hi. I'm from Serbia. Serbia is not Siberia, so it's not in Russia. Serbia is in Eastern Europe and it doesn't even come close to bordering Russia. Our first neighbours are Croatia, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Albania, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary and Bosnia. We're a land-locked country and used to be Yugoslavia. I'm surprised the girl from Czechia wouldn't know this.
Came straight to the comments after this, on behalf of the czechs I apologize
@@JanPažourek-p7h Greetings to you all 🫶🏻❤️
You were kinda wrong with the voting.The peoples vote is actually worth 51%, (small difference i know). Plus Sweden got the most vites from jury but Sweden got second most votes from the people, so it wasnt just from jury
It is 50-50 though.... at least thats how it is said since the juries were reintroduced. But the public vote should def have more power.
Please elaborate. If both give points 12-10-8.. they are even. Rest of the World makes it 37:36 I.e. just below 51%.
@@edonveil9887 I don’t really know exactly how it works, the Swedish commentators were talking about the voting system and were joking sarcastically how the people got more power now with 51%
@@edonveil9887 Rest of the world is only a public vote, that's why the public has 51%. So the math is 38 / (38+37) = 51%
You look all such a nice bunch of people, and this reaction was lovely. Although it was hard to watch as a fan because of the misinformations and strong opinions pre-songs. So with a little bit more work, it's gonna be even better.
Thank you for the reaction, cannot wait to see more content on the topic from you =)
Croatia unironically is my favourite song. It's just on a loop in my head atm.
Eheeh im glad,im croatian and the song is basically making fun of putin the whole entire time
Thank you sp much for your support! ❤👍❤👍
I can uderstand why Croatian entry ended up so badly! After all, this is, unlike swallow ignorants oppinion about supposedly "joke entry", somethibg that demands thinking and higher music knowledge and culture: all that's about in huge deficite among the usual ESC fans but as it turns out also amongst juries! 😉
Mama ŠČ from Croatia 🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷 has been hugely misunderstood and undervalued entry since it's large departure from the stereotypical mould in which 99% of the ESC songs are made and are usually more or less trivial or even nonsensical pastiche shallow balades and superficial generic pop with very little to none musical let alone artistic value!
Ultra conservative, such balades and pop songs leaning juries that are, as it turns out, also very narrow minded, hypocritical, prejudical, and genre biased, tend to rule out, crush everything they can't grasp - that isn't in line with their very puristic vision of what should high quality song look like!
And to be more absurd Mama ŠČ is by many music experts one of the most original and highly valuable entries since it has everything: criptic lyrics that convey very serious and actual messages, it has high music and artistic value, astonishing styling and cleverly arranged punk/ alter. art meets opera performance that is full of symbolism, all packed in high quality instrumentals and arrangements!
But almost no-one from very hypocritical, ignorant and superficial juries payed as much as several minutes of their time at one nice thing called Google to check out what is this supposedly "joke entry" really all about, what's the history of Let 3 as the seasoned performers that are here from 1987., band that has been awarded multiple times for their music, had numerous collaborations with renowned theatre directors in highly sucessful theatre music productions.They would be famous if they were coming from England, USA, Sweden and if they've abandoned their native language and became uniformed and globalised!
All of that was too hard for this unimaginably shallow, ignorant and narrow minded jury folks and all others that do prefer easy mainstream stereotypical stuff and "safe" choices!
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Unfortunatelly, as it turns out you're rather shallow Putinista! But I would be much more worried about your lack of good music taste and level of music knowledge and culture! 😉
I loved Finlands entry but I am not mad that Sweden won because I love Loreen and like others have said Johnny Logan won as a performer twice and had success as a songwriter for Eurovision too. It’s not fair to just call her out like people are for saying it is plagiarism as literally so many of the songs this year could be accused of the same thing because there are only so many chords and chord progressions
Everybody already loved her and thats why voted her however that was not the case with other countries
@@Pehtori Bonnie Tyler was much more loved and famous and noone voted for her. And Finland has sent commerically successful bands that noone voted for. Loreen was one of very few acts this year with outstanding vocals, she has stage prescence and the song is great. I actually thought Spain's Blanka Paloma was the best singer but I knew that most people would dislike the song or not get Blanka's vocal mastery. And Spain's song Ea ea wasn't as good as Loreen's and got a bit repetitive. Just like Finland's "break" or whatever it's called when Käärijä sang instead of rapped didn't really work for Cha cha cha.
@@tovep9573 You mean the 2nd half of Chax3? That's the part I actually like while the rest I don't find enjoyable to listen to. But yes, he doesn't have sufficient vocal ability to sing that part
@@Teaspooncat Yes that's what I meant. Regardless if you like this style of party song it becomes a lot less effective when you break the momentum like that - even more so as he didn't have very good vocals.
She wom becouse abbas 50 year celebration next year.
Marketa is so disrespectful in this one, kind of disgusting...
How so?
@@randomano8031 She was talking down on Loreen and was discrediting her + called her high/on drugs when Loreen is a very spiritual person
@@DarthKay093 Spiritual people can be high on drugs.
@@randomano8031 she was high on adrenaline and the contest have security to make sure you don’t bring in drugs etc. I have been to eurovision and they let dogs sniff you and Your belongings.
Acting like Loreen wasn't first in the odds for months, and like she didn't get 2nd most points from the ppl, while her song has nearly 100 million Spotify streams, very much deserved her crown, the jury gives points for talent
Unashamed to say I love Eurovision. It's such an eclectic mix of styles and a party atmosphere. I also might be biased (being from the UK), but I think we staged a great show this year with some of the best hosts (and I'm so glad we included a Ukrainian host). I can only imagine how the atmosphere felt during Cha Cha Cha though. You can see in the footage from the final that all the other acts where jumping up and down during it and the crowd where singing/shouting along with it. It must've been amazing for the people there.
Agreed! Apart from the dissapointing final results and the disrespectful audience all three shows were absolutely brilliant! Easily the best show after 2013 and 2016. The hosts had great chemistry and worked well together, the interval acts/guest performers were all great and half of the entries were quite decent
As a European this contest is so culturally interesting like I’m always eager to see what Moldova bring and excited for Italy to do a ballad for the millionth time etc 😂 I really liked Czechia this year and Australia was great too
Loreen was the first woman to win twice but Johnny Logan from Ireland has won twice before too, first in 1980 and then in 1987.
Also Loreen is kinda just always like that, she's not high she's just very space-y as a person.
It's fun people actually think you can be high and perform like this both choreo and singing.
Yes, Loreen’s not high, she’s just a little odd
I agree! She’s very spiritual so when she said she was meditating in her mind during that interview I believe her and not the people saying she was on drugs 🤷♀️
I wish people would just get to react to the songs, not knowing who won (if they don't know already) who got which points, or any other backstory. I always prefer reactions without any spoilers from those who have already seen it, no matter if it's Eurovision or movies or TV-series. Somebody who already seen it sitting there saying what they think of everything before the others get to react kinda ruins it, imho.
right! I watch these because I want to see a blind reaction, them sort of knowing the results and thinking Sweden won unfairly is going to affect how they perceive the songs
The reason the person (Loreen) singing for Sweden sang in eurovision is cause she won something called "melodifestivalen" its a singing show where people compete to be in eurovision. The one who has the best song or gets number 1 gets to compete in eurovision and she won thats why she came again.
Hope this helped!
Johnny Logan has won twice and is regarded like the king of Eurovision, but the same people hate on Loreen because "it's not fair to win twice".
The ESC community can be absolutely wonderful, but also toxic as fuck.
And here I am loving that Loreen won, both because the song is amazing and because I'm a swede, and at the same time loving that Käärija got 2nd place because that song is great. My two favourites this year game 1st and 2nd. Can't complain.
Actually many people don't like Johnny Logan's second victory either. And I agree, I don't want to see past winners trying again because why? They already won, they had their time and they got the attention and The possibilities that comes with winning ESC. I guess they weren't satisfied with The results of their first win.
Loreen was 1st with the Jury and 2nd with the Televoters so it makes sense why she won. It isn't like the public didn't vote for her.
Thats true...but I think ppl are somewhat right that televoting should matter more than jury voting, because its after all where much of the money comes from to Eurovision.
Maybe something like 60% televotes and 40% jury votes or how its here in Finland with our preliminary competition for Eurovision where 75% of total votes are formed from audience votes and only 25% are jury votes
@@Balnazzardi look what happened last year?? that's what happens when you trust televotes too much, at least the juries didn't go on pity
She came second, but second by a LONG way. The public voted very clearly for Käärijä, it’s not like it was close but he happened to win or anything like that.
@@wilgyl19 Dude, last year was special case and you know exactly why.....you cant honestly be mad at that, considering what is happening to Ukraine....
@@Balnazzardi How many special cases could it be in the future? And how much more fair could it be?
I mean Finland was the only country whom didn't give Sweden any televotes. She got high from the other countries. How is that fair then? Or what is that a special case too?
Sweden gave their televote - 12, to Finland cuz we played it fairly. And what happens when the Finnish commentator literally urges to not specifically NOT vote for Sweden. Are those the people who should chose the winner? Its never going to be 100% fair. It can't be. Cha Cha Cha was good, but Tattoo slightly better. It's a hit, not a winner. now... COPE
I’m so disgusted by this reaction, the way the blond woman kept saying wrong information and trying to discredit Loreen is so disgusting
She is right tho
Keep on complaining about the juries but you want Austria to win? What the heck. The only reasons Austria placed well was because of the juries. The crowd did not vote for them. I don't know, seems hypocritical to me.
You can't even differentiate Switzerland and Sweden. Dumb
For me Sweden was the true winner. Finland was good but not a winner for me, though if they would've won i wouldnt be upset.
The results that shocked me most, were the ones from Austria, Norway, Lithuania and Albania.
I loved Croatia for their message of anti everything haha.
I actually thought there were better songs this year overall, more then usual. So i didnt know who would win and i loved that.
just a few observations:
1. serbia is nowhere near russia - it's closer to italy than to russia - but, they are historically connected because of orthodox christianity religion
2. there is one national competition where we choose our entry for eurovision - then that entry has to pass a semi-final (once) to enter the finale.
3. eurovision was always super-inclusive, not just this year (especially regarding lgbt+)
regarding sweeden, she was great, there's no shame in this entry winning, she deserved it, but finland captured the moment - he was the winner of our hearts
this reaction was so disappointing cause the blonde girl really tried to "manipulate" the rest by feeding them constantly wrong information and her own beliefs. Tattoo and Euphoria are not the same song. It's Loreen's signature style with big vocals. Also, she never mentioned that Sweden actually came 2nd in the televote. Saying that the juries gave her such a big lead that it was impossible for Finland to beat is simply untrue. Sweden won fair and square because they had the overall best song and a singer who is extremely talented and charismatic. A pioneer in the Eurovision song contest. I'm really glad that the left side of the couch didn't really buy all that and really praised loreen.
Even saying that Loreen was high during her winning performanc... it was like I was reading hate tweets about Loreen. Please do better next time
Thank you. She also kept talking through the whole perforance so that the others couldn't appreciate the vocals.
I wish they read the comments and would see yours because I don’t think they realised how much negative things they were basically spreading about Loreen.
And the blonde girl was straight up lying to the others about multiple things.
The voting system has been like this for years and just now people are getting pissed it makes no sense and is so disrespectful
Speaking as a resident of Liverpool, it's worth saying the Eurovision organisation and city planners did a wonderful job making this first and foremost Ukraine's Eurovision, rather than England's - if that makes sense. Street parties for the hub of Ukrainian immigrants, markets with hand crafted pieces and art made by and profitting Ukrane, as well as a lot of art exhibits propping up across the city to celebrate the real hosts. All this without mentioning the insane number of music events spontaneously popping up on the daily.
Anecdotal, but I did come upon a Ukranian couple who managed to travel to the event for the final, and when being interviewed for a news broadcast, said they felt this was the most faithful location to host if for them that they could have asked for, such was the emphasis on it being their turn to host, not the UKs. Overall, the mood in the city was we were beyond humbled to host if for them, given the war, and took every opportunity we could to celebrate Eurovision and Ukraine.
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That may be the case, but the show itself still felt like a huge UK masturbation. Sooo much UK and then a 2 minute speedrun of the past Ukraine winners and then.. more UK? And Charles and Camilla were there too for some reason? And why did they play so many English songs? How is this about Ukraine? (IT ISNT)
@@einhorntaschentuch9404 United Kingdom should have won last year anyway, it was a sympathy win.
@@SpenceJS87 Ukraine may have gotten a lot of extra votes due to the war, however not only do we not know who would have gotten Ukraine's sympathy votes (Spain, the UK and Sweden were very close in points so any of them had the possibility to come 1st) but the situation/entries/anything, could have been completely different if the war didn't happen. We just have no way of knowing
@Alicia Samali maybe, that's a good theory. But we know the votes of a country can drastically differ from those of another. So really, only way to know for sure is if we got to see it, but we didn't, so 🤷🏻♀️.
About the Croatian song. It is of course anti-war and anti-dictator, a satire. Putin and the war in Ukraine inspired. The government of Belarus gave Putin a tractor on his 70th birthday, so that's why you have tractor in the lyrics. Who the hell is Edgar, a fun song, but also is about how women artists sometimes do not get the same recognition as men, that's why she credits Edgar Allan Poe for her work. The 0,003 number refers to what the songwriters get paid for a stream on Spotify I think.
0,003?? what? thats literally nothing...Now I wonder how much the artist gets from streaming.
Tbh both Finland and Sweden were good in different ways. Sweden got the second highest votes from the public after Finland so its not like she only won on jury votes even tho she got many. As a swede id prefer Finland to win bc I think he deserved that but it is what it is. The Finland artist is very good friends with loreen and wants the best for her. Its a compitition. Its sad tho that Loreen got so much hate after eurovison over something thats not her fault.
Jag önskade faktiskt att Finland skulle vinna när det blev tydligt att de skulle få majoriteten av tittarrösterna för jag kunde känna på mig att vi skulle få skit för det online
@@itsclaaara Jo jag ville hellre att dom skulle vinna också men nu blev det ju inte så! De är ju inte som att loreen var klappkass, ja mena hon fick ju jäkligt många tittarröster också, andra efter Finlands artist. De spelar ingen roll vem som skulle ha vunnit över Finland så skulle vilket bidrag som helst få skit. De är en tävling. De här kommer glömmas bort sen.
kind of wish you guys let the others react more blindly to the songs, regardless of the results. It would have been nice to see the others reaction to sweden and finland, not knowing who won.
Indeed, they're forcing their own thoughts on the others. Let them have the experience of discovering things for themselves. Express your own view after.
i like how Chris slowly turn to european. he already love eruvosion like one.
You guys said some stuff that didn't make sense. When talking about Austria placing so low, you seem to be talking about the juries messing up. But the jury gave Austria 8th place. The public gave Austria 22nd place.
Johnny logan was the first person to win twice for ireland (but loreen is the first woman to win twice) with tattoo and one of the most famous entries (modern day anyway) euphoria
People weren’t nearly as upset when Duncan Lawrence (The Netherlands) won over Keiino (Norway) in 2019, even though Keiino won the people’s votes. And now Duncan Lawrence’s song is one of the (if not THE) most popular Eurovision songs ever. Just saying.
That's because there's no Dutch mafia
You can disagree with the winner all you want but there's no need to be an ass about it! Ukraine won last year only because of the war and Europes sympathy..
Jury votes are not worth more. But other than that I guess it was fine. I didn't really care for the Finland contribution but I didn't really care for Sweden either. ( I am European if that matters, I watch this shit every year.)
Either way no one has ever complained before when anyone has won due to getting a lot of 12s from the jury which is pretty unfair that people all of a sudden care. It has happened so many times before it's crazy.
Sweden got the 2nd most votes from the people didn't they? Or 3rd. It's not as outrageous as people are making it out to be at all. It just seems unfair that all of a sudden people care about a country getting a lot of 12s when it has happened so many times before. Hypocricy is the worst thing to me.
The real problem with people votes are wokeism. People have won who really shouldn't have before due to that and people votes.
Exactly! In 2022 the people's vote robbed the UK, in favor for sympathy for Ukraine. Glad the normies acknowledge Sweden. Yes, Finland had the energetic performance, but Sweden sang way better. Sweden deservingly won.
@@AshwinRamdin Yeah people seem to have a short memory since what happened last year. Even though Finland had an exciting performance that got everyone involved, the song is only good in the chorus, it's more of a silly hype song.
"wokeness" is only really a problem for racists and misogynists.
I'm so glad you picked up the humor in Finland's performance! Greetings from Finland :D
It's a general understanding that songs about "partying, dancing & having fun" that dress wacky, are trolls that don't want to win because Eurovison is expensive to host. So an entry like that whose lyrics are "mess my head up" etc while partying & drinkig 🇫🇮...
It's really typical when something positive & empowering to women can & did happen, some trolls need to sour it with some macho BS and normal people jump on the train.
@@elincarlsson6388 Your comment is all over the place, what is your point exactly?
@@elincarlsson6388 Käärijä is not a troll and he definitely wanted to win. Finland wanted to host ESC so badly. The song isn't about being macho, it's actually an anti-drinking song. It criticizes the Finnish alcohol culture.
@@rumaristo129 Vaikea monien on tuota tietää kun heillä ei ole tekstityksiä, eikä tämä millään selviä esityksestä tai lavastuksesta. Useat varmaan ajattelee, että tää on vitsinumero koska Käärijä (ja hänen tanssijat) on pukeutunut ja tanssii niin naurettavasti. Myöski hänen lauluääni on livenä vitsin tasoa. Mutta kiva kun tuli kakkoseksi. Ehkä tästä seuraa parempia ehdokkaita (UMK:ssa) edustajiksi seuraavina vuosina. Tai sitten emtistä huonompia..
@@Teaspooncat Kyllä joka maan viisulähetyksissä on tekstitykset, mutta ymmärrän kyllä että ulkomaalaisen on hankala kontekstualisoida tuota esitystä esim. suomalaiseen ns. ryyppyräppiin tai suhteessa ylipäätään suomalaiseen huumorimusiikkiin. Mutta ovathan kahjot esitykset euroviisuissa ennenkin pärjänneet ja huumoribiiseillä on menty monta kertaa viiden parhaan joukkoon. Siksi tuossa aiemmassa kommentissa ei musta oikein ollut järkeä
Sweden won fair and square, deal with it.
Also a lot of misinformation stated with such confidence.
dude its ridiculous to even suggest she was high thats so disrespectful
Happy to see your reaction to Croatia. And glad it make you laugh. There is so much meaning behind this song, one could write a book about it, despite lyrics being very simple. Every part has been well thought out and has many messages!
Okay this video was a bit biased imo, should've discussed the "controversy" after watching the videos first and also you didn't play Loreen's actual performance from the grand final, you played the winner performance, after she won. She was still amazing (best winner's performance imo), but just saying that she wasn't even trying in this one.
Well, they also reacted to Finland's semifinal performance which wasn't nearly as good as the final one. But I agree, It would have been better to see Loreen's actual performance to get the full picture.
I understand Marketa's disappointment with Sweden's win. Loreen's Euphoria from 2012 is still played in dance clubs around the world and her performance this year just sounded too familiar and was honestly less amazing than the first time around.
Ye, I mean if same performer comes with song thats simply not as good or better, its understandable why public rallied behind Finland/Käärijä more than behind Loreen this time around. without Käärijä ofc Sweden/Loreen likely would have gotten lot more votes from public, but this time they had different favorite.
I don't even think Tattoo sounds similar to Euphoria at all. I just genuinely don't like the song. The melody is just inane to me. Euphoria is a banger.
She wouldn't, she still didn't got any 12 points
Agree with that
@@Balnazzardi A lot of the people who voted for Cha Cha Cha probably wouldn't be the ones to vote for Tatoo. Wasn't Cha Cha Cha there probably Serbia and Germany wouldn't have done as bad as they did, and the other electronicy and rock/metaly songs would have done better as well.
This Eurovision was the most American, disrespectful crowd and undermining the winner. She was first in Jury and second in Televotes. If the song wasn’t popular, she would have tanked the televote. It’s 50/50 Jury and Televote so the jury isn’t worth more annoying dude. I love Käärija, but the song wasn’t for me. He’s just so charismatic though. But the undermining a deserving winner who was also clearly a favorite is just ridiculous at this point. She’s the second to win twice, first was Irelands Johnny Logan.
Our croatian performance was the one from our national final though. BUT a better version, since Eurovision censored a few things. Glad you all liked it though :)
So many no true things saied by the lady with short blonde hair. Serbia is Not near Russia. Not at all. And there were other ppl that won at Eurovision twice. And... the jury votes are not higher ranked than the ppl votes it's 50/50. Lady is talking about what she doesn't know
Croatia is definitely my winner this year! A great rock opera and a true punk masterpiece! This is what eurovision is about
Totally the opposite for me, I like the song actually, but it shouldn't have participated because the song is very political and it goes literally against the rules of the contest, to send political entries
@@alvarovonriegan3533 Eurovision is political, like it or not. I think it's amazing that countries can send a songs with a strong statement! I love it
Very disappointing to see the blatant bias against Loreen in this reaction, to the point of influencing all the other reactors too. Loreen won the jury vote and came second with televoting so it's not like the jury votes hard carried her.
And you can't complain about people placing low (Austria) as they got voted mostly by the jury and the televote did them so dirty.
Being a little more open hearted and kind will do you wonders. Being a sore loser is an ugly look.
“it sounds the same” euphoria and tattoo sound nothing alike??? y’all just bitter that she won and she deserved to win. the song is literally number 3 or 4 on global Spotify right now. SHE DESERVED IT.
Yes. A singer who has their style and makes songs in a specific genre is the norm. That shouldn’t be surprising. Them saying that it sounds the same is probably just excuses to try to deflect their bitterness on something concrete instead of accepting that their disappointment is rooted in their own personal desires.
Oh gosh, Serbia is not near Russia. 🤣🤣
I didn't like that one of them called it *European nonsense* ... this is literally our culture..
Respect to the grave, grandma's and eurovision! For some reason, not an unexpected combination. Lets watch!
so unfair towards loreen wtf
I think Navi and Pat will love the fact that the glorious Hannah Waddingham from Ted Lasso hosted this year Eurovision. She became the new Queen of Eurovision.
I wish they watched the whole final because all of it was really really great from the presenters to the interval acts (other performances etc.) and certainly most of the entries. Apart from the final results it was overall a lot better than last year's show
I was surprised Moldova and Norway didn't make the list. Moldova had everything.
hey, love the videos (I will be every year here for you) quick corrections from a fellow European
-The jury votes don't count more than the people's votes (it's 50/50, sweden just got so many jury votes, that finland didn't win overall with al points combined)
-Serbia is not in Russia and it's not close either, there are 3 countries in between (two really big ones Romania and Ukraine), but it's not a known country to most so I can understand the mistake
-Eurovision was gay in your face even when Russia was taking part (it's not a new thing)
-more people have one more times in the past (Ireland once won 3 times with the same person)
*personal quirk I love the moment you say American and not English for the language xD
The jury votes are not equal to the public vote, they count less today. The reason is a rest of the world category was added this year so there was 37 jury group and 38 public vote groups. Remove one group from each for the number that can vote for a country because you can vote for your own.
So many confident wrong statements in this one.
- juries and televote is 50/50, so no, the jury vote is not worth more, but the key to winning is getting points from both. Finland got 5th from juries (still very high) and 1st in televote. Sweden got 1st in juries and 2nd in televote (for reference, her televote was big enough to win it most years, so its not like she was ignored by the public).
- Loreen is the first female performer to win twice, but it has happened before. Johnny Logan won twice as a performer for Ireland in the 80s and then won a third time as a composer in the 90s.
- It is not uncommon that the "peoples champion" doesn't win in the end. It happened in 2016 when Jamala won without winning jury OR televote (won by Australia and Russia respectively), and in 2019 when Duncan Laurence won with Arcade (Norway won the televote). This "controversy" is not new and it will blow over like it alway does. The rules are known going in to the competition, you need to do good in both to win.
- Loreen was NOT high. I can understand if people unfamiliar with her would think so, but that is her personality. Very aloof. And if you think she actually performed like that while being high, then there should be no doubt at all on whether she derserved the win, cause that would be crazy impressive!
- Israel was 3rd, Italy 4th.
She's the second person who one twice.
It’s not uncommon that the televote winner doesn’t win. 4/10 times in the last 10 competitions has ended with someone winning that didn’t get the most points in the televote. It sounds like you are trying to make it appear as a big controversy this year.
One of those who won but didn’t get the most televotes were The Netherlands in 2019 with the song Arcade. However, that song has become the most played song on Spotify in the history of all songs that have ever been in Eurovision. So it’s extremely loved by the public, yet it didn’t win the televote. I would argue that the televote isn’t the holy grail and that it’s not the “true winner” as people always say year after year.
I have watched every Eurovision since 1999, but I’ve never voted because it costs money. I wish they could make it so that you could vote for free and limit the amounts of votes that you can cast. That would make it much more fair and include as many viewers as possible to have their say. As it is now, a single person can vote 20 times for the same song as long as they are willing to pay for it.
I like that you’re reacting to Eurovision, but the amount of misinformation in this video is almost impressive
Loreen was not high, she is always like that. Every interview Ive seen with her she is so f-ing weird :D
Johnny Logan won the Eurovision twice for Ireland, so Loreen is the second person to have won twice.
No, lots of people won twice, just watch old eurovisions
@@АлексейЗаботкин-т1х I'm sorry but you're mistaken. Lots of *countries* have won more than once, but Johnny Logan and Loreen are the only artists to have won twice.
I love how passionate Marketa was about Käärijä being robbed the first place. 😂 It has been amazing to see how our goofy Finnish guy has united people from all over the world with this song, we are very proud of him. Chris and Marketa are my favourite Normies, so it's a bit surreal to see them talk about Cha Cha Cha.
Ez win for Loreen tho😎
Johnny logan was the first person to win the competition twice representing Ireland
I think next year you should live stream a reaction to the whole show. Make it a party. Get all the normies on the couch. Play eurovision bingo or drinking game or something. Boo, clap and cheer. Fight amongst each other over what the best song is. It wil be so much fun.
You said that the Juries had more votes, that's not true. Normally it's 50/50, but this year "the rest of the world" vote counted as one country, making the it 37 juries and 38 televoting countries. So the juries had just 58 points less to give so 2146p jury/2204 p televote.
The addition of Hannah Waddingham was a genius move.
She was great! All of them were, in fact. I loved her French
I loved both of the top 2 coutnries, and wouldn't mind if anyone of those won, both were great in 2 different ways, but let's make something clear, Eurovision is a place where you bring people from different places to celebrate music, to celebrate their own cultures, and yes there is the competition format, but let's be honest, it doesn't really matter! There's no significant prize, nor does the winner get any big notoriety or career boost after winning, so why are we fighting? It's just a format, and at the end of the day, what matters should be that we get some fun, upbeat, cooky melodies all in one show. Let's stop this camping that goes against the very nature of the show!
It amazes me how people so confidently put out false information thinking it’s right. 😂
A lot of countries held music competitions. They would perform it once, make it to the finals, perform again and win. Then, they have to perform it for the semi-finals, again for the jury and then, at the final. So many times.
Yes! Was so hoping you guys would do Eurovision again this year. Shame you didn't do Estonia (legit phenomenal performance) and Moldova (crazy as shit, up there with Finland)
Actually, there's another artist, Johnny Logan who won the contest twice before. First time in 1980, and second time in 1987. Both times, he was representing Ireland.
Jury vote and televote is both 50 50% and the combination of both decides who is the winner. Jury vote is where judging panel from every country vote for their top 10 performances. Whoever they thought deserves to be #1 will receive 12 points, following is 10 points and so forth. (Sweden placed 1st in jury vote, Finland was 4th) then they announce the tele-vote which is basically the people audience voting. Finland placed first in the tele vote. Sweden was placed 2nd in tele vote. So overall Sweden got total 580ish points while Finland got 520ish points. Hence Sweden was the winner this year. The controversy was not because of Loreen or whether she won before or the song. It’s because next year is ABBA’s 50 year anniversary. ABBA is Swedish pop group, it’s an iconic group (they sing the song Dancing Queen). They won Eurovision with the song Waterloo in 1974. So a lot of people are saying Eurovision rigged the voting to give Sweden win this year so then Sweden will host the next year’s Eurovision in 2024 (winner of the year before hosts the next year). Obviously Eurovision will market and advertise ABBA and its 50th year anniversary to make more money. Loreen the singer represented Sweden got so much hate for it because of it. Again this is just a controversy, nothing is confirmed or anything. To me both were wonderful. There are always some debate on who should have won every year at Eurovision so to me this is just an another one.
Haha you guys all went quiet when Käärijä climbed aboard the human caterpillar
Johnny Logan won twice for Ireland.
Loreen is the first female to win twice.
Y'all crazy on here trying to make the Loreen's result not worthy for a second winning, the song and the visuals are mesmerizing. A truly deserve winner and an historic woman on the Eurovision already. So so freaking happy for this ❤
The song was almost a copy of Euphoria, but worse... Finland were original, had better staging, and were more crowd pleasing, and the televote proved it. So, with all due respect to Sweden, no - they did not deserve the win. AGAIN, without taking anything from Loreen's talent. She's VERY talented, to say the least... but the overall act was nothing close to a winner.
Disclaimer: I'm neither a Swede or a Finn.
@@vl3005 And yet we are here...the jury votes placed her on top and televotes placed her second (finland won the televotes)...but combined she won...what part of the voting system don't you understand!?...just get over it and move on! ".....Finland were original, had better staging, and were more crowd pleasing, and the televote proved it....."...well, a a subjective opinion doesn't make it the right opinion!?................just get over it and move on!
@@ingvarkamprad9441 The jury is the opinion of a few, the televote is the opinion of millions. What don't YOU understand? I get it, you're a Swede and you're in Euphoria right now (see what I did there? 😉) but as a non-Swede and non-Finn, I'm definitely more objective than you, and the tens of millions who voted for Finland surpass the tens of millions who voted for Sweden by a landslide. Add that to the fact that the Jury votes are mostly (if not totally) political - and you got yourself a scandal. I don't NOT accept the win, couldn't care less, but I don't like people defending the win when it's clearly politically motivated and in direct contrast to the people's opinion by a VERY huge margin. You should just celebrate this win quietly and not go all bananas attacking people who speak their neutral opinions on social networks.
Hope this clears up everything.
@@vl3005 finland weren't orginal either, neither was Norway because they sound similar to other songs as well, not just loreens. And don't be a hypocrite, why can't people criticise you for your opinion but you can criticise people for their opinion. Let people have different opinions to you don't throw your opinion down peoples throat just because you didn't think she deserved to win, if people think she deserved to win let them. I wanted Finland to win, it was always going to between those two, I couldn't care less who won and unlike you I won't attack people for thinking she deserved the win
Serbia is not near Russia lol, they are not neighbours, it's near Bulgaria, Romania and other balkan countries
So before saying that around Russia are small countries, first learn some geography, I know that Americans don't know it, but try and history and how much countries America invaded, more then Russia
What people don't realize is the fact it's called Eurovision Song Contest for a GOOD REASON. When there is a "contest" there is always a presence of juries or judges that evaluate a performance/song/etc. You have heard of a spelling bee Contest, national pie contest, national giant pumpkin contest, etc. It's NOT like American Idol where the final say/vote is 100% televote (that's what people outside of Europe think when they see Eurovision (American Idol meets the Olympics)). The juries have been established since 1956, the year when Eurovision was founded and it has been a staple of voting. There is NO way the EBU decided to make 100% televote, otherwise it would be an imbalance for the other songs to have a say in terms of performance and staging. If you wanted to make a 100% televote Grand Final and scraping out the juries, why not just rename the competition as a whole. Instead of Eurovision Song Contest, why not just Eurovision or Eurovision Song Competition.
I'm not against the presence of juries per se, but Eurovision did have a 100% televote system from the late 90s to 2008 (note: under exceptional circumstances a jury could be used in case televoting for some reason didn't work, and for two years, 2001-2002, every country was able to make their own choice between 100% televoting or 50/50). This was changed in 2009, when the 50/50 system was introduced and made mandatory. So when people are saying they wanna ditch the juries it's not unprecedented; they're essentially saying they want to go back to the time before 2009.
@@tocraneandcrane The jury system was only reintroduced cause countries that have money complained they would leave the contest because of East European dominance in the 2000s, largely cause they took the contest seriously and sent good entries while West Europe was sending jokes, and then had the audacity to complain why nobody voted for them.
Serbia 🇷🇸 is not near Russia 🇷🇺 and Johnny Logan won twice for Ireland 🇮🇪 .
since im finnish and ive been watching you for years by now and seeing this reaction and hype from you towards finland was awesome to see :)
I dont understand at all how cha cha cha even qualified..
Marketa if you saw the program live you could also vote from the USA. The rest of the world besides Europe was considered as a single country that awarded its points. Did you vote?
She did in the first semifinal and she probably did in the finale as well. I watched the live streams she did
Look...everyone...you are not judging euro competition from the"weirdness and oddity perspective". It is the best song, the best performance, the best musician etc. The freak show sheit is for a snicker or a laugher that is all. Thor forbid having the general Ibiza/Tulum-going crowd actually deciding who wins.