Your favorite character + good ideals + short on delivery of ideals =. A life long fan dropping the title. I feel for you it has happened to all of us from time to time.
What really bothers me is that my first Spider-Man comic run since getting back into them in 2022 has been, without a doubt, the worst reading experience.
So glad it's over lol. Super good video Mike, one of my favorite you've done recently! I hope the next creative team is an all star team, ASM finally deserves a great volume. I feel like other marvel characters like Daredevil, Moon Knight, and Iron Man have had super good runs lately, but the biggest character in Spider-Man is getting left behind. Marvel needs to do better!!
I get where you’re coming from completely. Zeb Wells has taken a lot of the heat from us fans, but let’s not forget - Nick Lowe, as editor, does steer the ship. He’s the one setting the direction and approving each arc, so it’s fair to wonder how much of what we’re seeing is a product of editorial vision versus just the writer’s choices. Editors like Lowe have significant influence over tone and plot direction, which can often shape a writer’s entire run. And I hear you on Romita Jr.’s art! His work was groundbreaking and iconic for so long, but sometimes you just crave a fresh style, especially after seeing his signature look on Spider-Man for so many years. It’s exciting to think about who else could come on and bring a new visual take to the character. Your history with Amazing Spider-Man sounds a lot like many fans’ experiences (mine also). Brand New Day was a major turning point for the series, and it left a lot of people with mixed feelings about Peter’s future. It’s rough when a series you love takes directions that feel like they stray from the character’s soul. Dropping and then returning to ASM with issue 60-it’s the hope that someday Spidey will get a run that feels like a return to form. Here’s hoping the next team can find that sweet spot and bring back the magic that’s been missing for so many fans. I have practically no hope, but I will be there… Greetings from Germany 😊
I am honestly a little trepidatious about the future of ASM. After the 8 deaths of spider-man they are relaunching the book and Marvel has been trying to recruit creators for the book for over a year and writers are passing on the offers. How far down the totem pole are they gonna go for recruitment. Justina Ireland writing the final arc of the current volume of ASM seems like a gig that is way above her station in comics right now. That could change, she might surprise everyone. But signs aren’t good.
Big 2 needs to learn from Manga. STOP REPEATING the same stories OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER Again. 😂 I have jumped off comics 3 times in the past 15 years because I just keep getting regurgitated crap stories that have been done before. ASM last two runs were sooo bad. Worst part about big two is the big two apologists always making excuses for them. Why is it ok for a ‘writer’ to rip off a previous writer? This is why independent comics are gaining more and more popularity. Seems fans are getting tired of half-assed storytelling
I just found you recently. Your passion for comics is what drew me in. I love comics so much myself. I live for every new comic day. You know my favorite part is talking comics with other amazing fans. Not the jerks this sucks people. But real fans. YOU my friend are a REAL fan. This was a passionate speech about what I can tell is your favorite character. I heard everyone hated this run. I hadn't been reading because it just didn't look good to me. But I love comic fans so much this hurts my heart. That is a passionate speech from a true fan. Wow. Definitely following you now. Luckily I haven't had a horrible run of my favorites in years. I hope I never get this hurt. Much respect. If they do get a great new team I might try. I love ultimate. It is Hickman guys just wait. Going to go read now.
Jackpot is the absolute worst Rek Rap isn’t far behind lol I dropped this run around issue 48 never thought I’d drop ASM but it was so so bad between artwork and storytelling. This was my first ASM run so I’m taking your advice and I got Omnis from the old runs going to read all that and way for the new creative team
I can't, i removed Asm from my pull. Nothing gets solved Paul stays as MaryJane boyfriend. Jackpot stays in Asm. Deaths of Spider-man won't be good either.. I am done with Asm. Sorry but i can't anymore.
@saiyangoddess4310 if you want to keep living the Dream, i am not stopping you. I'm only talking about myself here. I have been reading and collecting Spider-man books from as early as 6 yo. I am 53 now and i have my heart stepped on by Marvel 3 times now. I can't do it anymore thats why i'm cancelling Asm. You can Just go and read on. But don't judge me, you don't know me.
So many people are so mad that mj and Peter are not together and it is their sole focus . His run wasn't that good but let's focus on new stories and new concepts instead of the nostalgic stuff all the time.
I hate this book and frankly this entire issue didn’t resolve anything and just had zeb wells said I am going to leave everything broken and wash my hands of this garbage to let another writer clean up the mess which is just sad and pathetic in my opinion for the next writer to fix his mess that he broke and to make it ten times worse is that marvel refuses to undo the damage instead say i don't know let peter parker and mary jane get back together and remember everything they lost and finally finding there daughter mayday parker the future spider-girl there daughter and destroy mephisto permanently, we now have this awful character paul who nobody likes myself included, who really needs to get hit by a truck literally and go away forever and never come back ever at least in my opinion. In conclusion this entire run was freaking garbage and even with Joe Kelly on the book nothing is going to change because editorial are so petty to the point that they would rather have this character fail a lot just to fit there own ego and pettiness which is just sad and depressing in my opinion.
I dropped off after about issue 10 or so. The main thing I'm going to miss is your Paul rants 😂😂😂 fingers crossed for you & all Spider-Man fans going forward tho man! Much ❤
I was happy (momentarily) when Nick Spencer's run ended because I thought it couldn't get any worse. I was wrong by a country mile. Zeb Wells' run was absolutely horrible. It got way worse. This has to be the "lowest" point in the entire ASM run. I'm trying to be optimistic about the "new team" but how many times can we (the fans) get dumped on over and over. Nothing will change until Nick Lowe is GONE. Marvel needs to clean house in the management department and get back to "good storytelling with great art".
My favorite (artist) run was with john romita senior, made the characters feel real on page and got to see the original crew of peter, harry, flash, Gwen and MJ go from best friends to... Well alot of things and those interactions felt so real. My favorite spiderman artist.
i like the CHASM story line. Ben and Kaine have not been used in a LONG while in a main storyline. the new powers, the Eternal mind control, and KAINE trying to help. This has a movie plot all over it.
Nothing you said was wrong here. I agree. I’m not sold on the next ASM arc or creative direction. I buy Ultimate Spidey and Miles’ main comic, but I’m not sure if ASM will continue to be a comic I buy. I could jump back into ASM in 2025 when the 8 Deaths is over. We’ll see.
10:40 Number 32 of Amazing SM is also part of that Kraven's arch (so is from 32 to 35). I am not a huge fan of Spidey anymore, but number 32 was actually my favorite issue in probably the last lustrum of SM. And yes, I would also highly recommend to get those 4 numbers (skip the rest).
I kind of feel Marvel doesn't know what to do with ASM anymore. They can't put the book to sleep because it's their highest selling title and the most recognizable comic in the entire world. If I were Marvel, I'd, y'know listen to what readers want to see and implement that, but they won't. I liked Hallow's Eve though. Wish I could get my $8 back for this ASM comic.... oh well, it'll be up for sale next year at a convention for $1.
Take jackpot out of Asm and let her plot with Paul and her friendship with Felicia bloom and develop for the fans that like that. Give Peter a real love interest. Let him grow! Rek rap is hilarious! Have Hallows Eve grow a rivalry with Jackpot so Spider-man can help out here and there with Jackpot to battle Hallow’s Eve and Chasm. That would make a good crossover
That Kraven arc is where I started and I agree it was good! Again the conclusion felt a bit rushed and there wasn’t much payoff but I had just got back into comics so for me I was like hey Amazing seems decent I’m going to read this! Picked up all three of those in an eBay auction for cheap just to check it out. At the time GangWar storyline had just started and seemed decent (before as you said it ended up going nowhere) and I was really enjoying the title. Picked up some back issues and found out that it was a bit of a train wreck up to that point wow. To me though it was at least bold and entertaining if not actually good. Post gangwar I realized that the run was just kind of story after story that never ended strong or had impact.. got bored and dropped it at issue 45.
I forgot that Aunt May didn't know Peter is Spider-Man. One More Day and Beand New Day were stupid amd reverberate to this day. Also, it would be bad form to kill a major character in the last issue right before a new writer takes over.
Every thing you said was on point Mike. The Zeb Wells run will probably go down THE WORST run of The Amazing Spider-Man. It was insulting, condescending, pointless, and most importantly just absolutely soulless. As one reviewer over on the Spider Man Crawlspace site put it, Zeb Wells is like the kid who put away his favorite toys while leaving a huge mess behind in his wake for others to clean up. Thanks to Wells and Nick Lowe, MJ now has this reputation of someone who cheated on Peter .Which she ABSOLUTELY DID NOT, as she was directly manipulated and forced into a relationship with Paul by raising two fake magical kids, created by a variant of Paul’s dad for his stupid ritual to become a god. Also that last story featuring MJ and Peter was such a deliberate middle finger to the fans who wanted them back. Now MJ is dating a douche bag who was complicit in genocide, while Peter gets to date Aunt Anna’s nurse Shay, who is already confirmed to be another forgettable character that dated Peter.
Even if they started ASM with a new number one with a picture of Peter and Mary together.... Naw.... I'm probably not gonna buy it. I read a lot of spider man. But all I read is the noncanonicals. Ultimate spiderman, spiderman life story, spiders shadow, friendly neighborhood spider man. They put out a lot of good spider man comics. But no matter the creative team, ASM has been consistently bad.
I didn’t read much of this run, but it just feels like after Slott, it’s been a struggle of people stuck between doing more of the same vs trying something new. I only made it halfway through Spencer’s run too. At least the new book looks interesting.
I couldn’t continue this Zeb Wells run. I got fed up at issue 49 and dropped it. It’s unfortunate because I love Spider-Man. I agree with your entire assessment of Zeb’s run although I don’t think it’s entirely his fault. Editorial is to blame for a lot of this between all of the stupid “events” and things like Paul, Spideys new suit and that whole gimmick and so on. I think if Zeb was able to do his own stories without editorial in the way it could’ve been much better. And as unfortunate as it is for me to say, I couldn’t stand Jr Jr’s artwork. He’s not the same artist. Very unfortunate but I am looking forward to what’s coming.
" I think if Zeb was able to do his own stories without editorial in the way it could've been much better " Well you're gonna get your wish. Zeb Wells signed up with Rick remenders Giant Generator imprint at image comics.hes gonna write (or co write) his own comic without the BS editorial interference.
Man looking at those previews for 8 deaths it looks Justina Ireland is writing a bit of this arc. I really hope that’s not our new writer for ASM going forward. I don’t wanna be mean here, but I’ve never heard of her. I really hope Joe will stick and be the main writer at least.
My favorite part of the rant is when he says how the ‘events’ just mess things up. THIS is how i feel about most of these events. Hindering creativity and straight up cash grabs
I'm actually a huge fan of jr jr lol. I think his spiderman is a cool mix of classic cartooning and exaggeration like ditko or Kirby. I think the weakness with this run is really the storytelling unfortunately. But love your videos and opinions as always!
I never really read ASM I picked up a copy for a cover ;-) .. and tried to read it .. worst thing I've ever read (possibly if I got to the end) .. .. this was soo bad. Artwork was awful.
Marvel went very wrong when they killed original Hobgoblin. The Rose (Kingpin's son) was a cool crime boss but Marvel killed him. Why? They brought back Norman Osborn. Fine. They give him more superpowers. Wrong. He gets a sidekick. Omg. Peter tells on TV that he is Spidey. Wrong. I actually liked him telling JJJ, but that turned out bad. Marvel needs a good editor to stop things like these.
Excellent video Mike, you make numerous good points, all of which I agree with. The introduction of Paul is the dumbest thing ever, not one person likes the character. Jackpot as a hero is silly, her costume is atrocious, and her powers are too simple/easy. Black Cat should always been in Peter's life in some manner. Peter and Felica were dating and then broke up and she disappeared. Every character in town was in Gang War, but Black Cat nowhere to be seen? Come on, you know she would have been involved somehow. I wonder how much of the blame should go to the editors? Did Wells want to go further in stories and get held back by editors? I don't know. There is no doubt the comic book community is not happy with ASM. At NYCC there was a panel with the ASM editor, and he had to leave the room due to the number of readers telling him how bad ASM has become. I am hoping we get someone good and as you said, Peter gets shot in the head.
Zeb Wells’ divorce from SNL’s Heidi Gardner last year is likely the biggest reason for things like Paul and the drama between Peter & MJ and how they’re never reuniting as a couple. Of course a writer’s real life is going to play into their work.
Disney Comics is all about those variant cover posters, the printed paper in between the floopy is just there to justify a higher price. These aren't stories to amaze or inspire anymore. Just made to keep money coming in and the IP out in the public eye
20:19 sorry to tell you, but the problem won't be solved by switching creative teams. The next creative team will have to deal with the same problems as Zeb Wells and the others (heavy editorial mandate, fans who will constantly ask them to fix One more day, online harassment,etc).
As someone getting back into comics in 2022 I started reading this run. Im a spidey guy so I thought it was a no brainer. Let's just say I didn't even last till gang war. Rekraps stupid along with pretty much all the other stuff. 8 deaths of spider-man doesn't look any better in my opinion. Ill stick to my image books amd be happy. Rook baby! Now that's a comic. 3.99 card stock cover and art that makes romita jr look like my 4 year old drew it.
JRJRs pencils are not the problem it's the way he was colored was the issue!! When he is doing spider man it needs to be colored bright and colorful like in super many year one is recent jrjr to compare this AMS run to
I got the Adam Hughes cover will definitely read it when I come back from work Adam hughes Black cat and jackpot cover it pretty much sold out the 4th store that I go has only 2 so I grab it.
Zeb’s run is by far the worst run on ASM even worse than Howard Mackie’s. Nick Spencer made ASM legit again but Welles ruined that momentum. The good: The first Tombstone arc. The Hobgoblin story. Norman as a good guy. White Rabbit bring practically a regular cast member. I’ll even accept #900 as ok. Hallow’s Eve. The bad: Chasm. Gangwar(it was better in the 80s). The glider(but tolerable since Spidey did used to have a Spider-Mobile, plus it fit the story) The Ock story The Kraven Story Jackpot🤦♂️ Then the ugly: Pretty much everything else. JR jr’s worst art. Dark Web 🤮 The Rabin story( I absolutely adore the original from #555-557 and this shat on that) Rek-Rap🤮🤮🤮 he’s nothing like Bizarro, he’s more like Bat-Mite meets Jar Jar Binks. Paul🤮🤮🤮🤮 an abomination to the series and if someone wanted to at least make this whole run tolerable, Paul would be revealed as Mephisto or a minion of his who’s been pulling the strings the whole time. Can somebody please talk Jed McKay into taking over after 8 Deaths? I feel like he’s the only current writer at Marvel that could do a decent job.
LOL😂😂😂😂 D- , F+ . Paul is my guy Mike … JK THIS video is spot on though . No more Rekrap . Just get to more street level adventures, single issue grounded stories .
Best of luck on the next run. Hopefully it works out better for Spidey than it has for X-men fans. New mutant books are trash or printed embodiment of “meh”.
🎯The Peter Parker of the 616 universe doesn’t get to have a happy ending. That’s why his Gwen is dead and Uncle He’s not married to MJ while always being broke. That’s the character you feel in love with and he’s not changing.
Doc Ock’s arms “you’re not my real dad I’ll go with whoever I want” 😂 Romita Jr was at a local show this past weekend I thought his line was going to be packed surprisingly no his table was pretty empty He signed some stuff for a CGC authorized dealer and he had a meet and greet event on Sunday He was kinda pricey so I did stop over I don’t regret not continuing with this run Chasm is a cool design but there was no payoff to invest in Chasm Hallows Eve very fun design I think her mini series did better than Chasm but again where’s the investment Black Cat going missing is odd she’s fought Scorpion and Carnage along with Spider-Man and being a thief character she should’ve been involved with gang war somehow Like maybe she stole plans from one of the villains to show Spider-Man and prevent it but they blame the other gang for the theft and it starts the fighting earlier than planned People early were like Jr Jr no thanks I wanted to give it a chance but man what a waste of time and ideas that could’ve been good but ruined by something else later on I’m definitely staying done with new Spider-Man..I’ll read new stuff like Conan over at Titan but back issue stuff wasn’t all masterpieces either but there’s reason people love the Conway run on Spider-Man And I don’t know if everything has been done to death or if the writer just isn’t keeping things structured enough to tell a good story Batman and Superman are way older and worlds finest is fun..and the original Worlds finest run was never a title I cared about the only major key is 1st Scarecrow in issue 3
In my 40+ of reading, this is definitely not my favorite run of Amazing Spider-Man. As for Dr. Ock arms, even tho they were originally fused to him, they haven’t been since the late ‘60’s. Hell, at the end of issue #56 the US Army was able to remove them and take him into custody. The arms started showing some form of sentience in issues #88 when they were on display at a museum and suddenly came to “life” and ran off to free Ock from prison.
🎯Amazing Spider-Man is and always will be a coming of age story. He’s not going to grow beyond 25. He’s meant for younger readers always and forever. You should be reading Ultimate Spider-Man if you want growth. I agree Romita art blows, he probably just meets deadlines. Amazing Spider-Man 1-300 will never be replicated.
15:10 exactly right, it felt pretty contrived forcing mrs marvel into Spider-Man and X-Men with no real consequences in either story. It left a bad taste in my mouth and I don't even dislike her character.
Easy fix Marvel needs to get Peter and Mary Jane remarried and have a daughter who is destined to be future Spider Girl. And The Amazing Spider-Man Wil sell out like crazy. Fans will be celebrating.
You'd think that the sales success of Ultimate Spider-Man would show them what people are looking for in the main universe -- but.... come on. ASM hasn't been even close to interesting since the Superior Spider-Man run.
I hate admitting this, because I'm a hypocrite when it comes to ASM. I stopped reading it. I think it's been terrible for a long time. It was terrible when I was reading it, and from what I've heard from basically everyone else I listen to, it's still terrible. But I've kept buying it. I shouldn't have been, but I have. But, I'm going to read the next issue. I hope, not expect, but hope, this 9 Lives of Peter storyline will be fun. If I hate it...I dunno. I hope that I can drop it, but will I? We'll see.
Isn't Aunt May already dead? ASM #400 is a whole comic about Aunt May dying and knowing Peter's identity all along and I thought his deal with Mephisto was for the soul of Aunt May, if Mephisto can raise people from the dead, he's not the devil then, I'm not reading ASM anymore, shits just being thrown out there
I haven’t bought a SPIDERMAN comic in a big while. I knew about this run and its horrible reputation. The same thing happened to me, I dropped both Detective and Batman. That character is also going through some bizarre abuse. There is an agenda within the comic book industry and that’s to destroy the legacy of every great superhero (especially male ) written in the modern era today. There’s a method they use. It’s repetitious, malicious and very much a disturbing trend. I’m hoping to make a big video essay on it someday. Trust me the crumbs are there. ua-cam.com/video/fjsrvOKzqSk/v-deo.htmlsi=59WlGoMyq7iSZ5BY
Yeah you're 100% right on that one I should actually discussed that a little bit more because he definitely has a huge say of what goes on in the comic book I only mentioned it a little bit and that was during the whole Ms Marvel bit.
Romita Jr and Frank Miller have completely lost their touch. Not sure if it’s age but the art is terrible now. Romita Jr. has gone to a box style in the faces and it’s not good. The Hallows Eve character is a keeper. She’s very cool.
People should read Amazing, Spectacular, and Web from the late 80’s, early 90’s. That was fun stuff.
I’m currently collecting those titles from those years. Currently enjoying the Gang War storyline from that era
🎯Those are classics, however, who’s trying to live 30 and 40 years in the past?
@@versewonderstrikes5353 most entertainment from 30 to 40 years ago is better than modern stuff. Movies, music, and comics being prime examples
@@MarveltheCross316Don't forget The Amazing Spider-Man Renew Your Vows.
Your favorite character + good ideals + short on delivery of ideals =. A life long fan dropping the title. I feel for you it has happened to all of us from time to time.
Man anyone remember when Erik Larsen and Bagley worked on Spider-Man? Right after Mcfarlane. Those were such cool looking books. Ramos blows
They were awesome.
That was the stuff I grew up to in those stories were just a lot of fun.
Can we all just admit that good runs are few and far between and we should really be buying great runs in omni format?
I feel your pain .
The worst run ever , poor spider man deserved better .
It’s funny because this is the run I came back into since I started collecting again. Glad to see it end
Is over, but the nightmare never ends.
I have not read Spidey since issue 700. If I decide to jump onto the next run if the writer is good, how much catching up will I need.
What really bothers me is that my first Spider-Man comic run since getting back into them in 2022 has been, without a doubt, the worst reading experience.
Why did you keep buying them?
So glad it's over lol. Super good video Mike, one of my favorite you've done recently! I hope the next creative team is an all star team, ASM finally deserves a great volume. I feel like other marvel characters like Daredevil, Moon Knight, and Iron Man have had super good runs lately, but the biggest character in Spider-Man is getting left behind. Marvel needs to do better!!
I have not read any of this run due to the art initially but I’m glad I didn’t waste my time and money
I get where you’re coming from completely. Zeb Wells has taken a lot of the heat from us fans, but let’s not forget - Nick Lowe, as editor, does steer the ship. He’s the one setting the direction and approving each arc, so it’s fair to wonder how much of what we’re seeing is a product of editorial vision versus just the writer’s choices. Editors like Lowe have significant influence over tone and plot direction, which can often shape a writer’s entire run.
And I hear you on Romita Jr.’s art! His work was groundbreaking and iconic for so long, but sometimes you just crave a fresh style, especially after seeing his signature look on Spider-Man for so many years. It’s exciting to think about who else could come on and bring a new visual take to the character.
Your history with Amazing Spider-Man sounds a lot like many fans’ experiences (mine also). Brand New Day was a major turning point for the series, and it left a lot of people with mixed feelings about Peter’s future. It’s rough when a series you love takes directions that feel like they stray from the character’s soul. Dropping and then returning to ASM with issue 60-it’s the hope that someday Spidey will get a run that feels like a return to form. Here’s hoping the next team can find that sweet spot and bring back the magic that’s been missing for so many fans.
I have practically no hope, but I will be there…
Greetings from Germany 😊
I am honestly a little trepidatious about the future of ASM. After the 8 deaths of spider-man they are relaunching the book and Marvel has been trying to recruit creators for the book for over a year and writers are passing on the offers. How far down the totem pole are they gonna go for recruitment. Justina Ireland writing the final arc of the current volume of ASM seems like a gig that is way above her station in comics right now. That could change, she might surprise everyone. But signs aren’t good.
Big 2 needs to learn from Manga. STOP REPEATING the same stories OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER Again. 😂 I have jumped off comics 3 times in the past 15 years because I just keep getting regurgitated crap stories that have been done before. ASM last two runs were sooo bad. Worst part about big two is the big two apologists always making excuses for them. Why is it ok for a ‘writer’ to rip off a previous writer? This is why independent comics are gaining more and more popularity. Seems fans are getting tired of half-assed storytelling
I just found you recently. Your passion for comics is what drew me in. I love comics so much myself. I live for every new comic day. You know my favorite part is talking comics with other amazing fans. Not the jerks this sucks people. But real fans. YOU my friend are a REAL fan. This was a passionate speech about what I can tell is your favorite character. I heard everyone hated this run. I hadn't been reading because it just didn't look good to me. But I love comic fans so much this hurts my heart. That is a passionate speech from a true fan. Wow. Definitely following you now. Luckily I haven't had a horrible run of my favorites in years. I hope I never get this hurt. Much respect. If they do get a great new team I might try. I love ultimate. It is Hickman guys just wait. Going to go read now.
Jackpot is the absolute worst Rek Rap isn’t far behind lol I dropped this run around issue 48 never thought I’d drop ASM but it was so so bad between artwork and storytelling. This was my first ASM run so I’m taking your advice and I got Omnis from the old runs going to read all that and way for the new creative team
I can't, i removed Asm from my pull.
Nothing gets solved Paul stays as MaryJane boyfriend.
Jackpot stays in Asm.
Deaths of Spider-man won't be good either..
I am done with Asm.
Sorry but i can't anymore.
I think it’s just a tad unfair to say the 8 deaths thing won’t be good considering we don’t really have anything to base that on
@saiyangoddess4310 if you want to keep living the Dream, i am not stopping you.
I'm only talking about myself here.
I have been reading and collecting Spider-man books from as early as 6 yo.
I am 53 now and i have my heart stepped on by Marvel 3 times now.
I can't do it anymore thats why i'm cancelling Asm.
You can Just go and read on.
But don't judge me, you don't know me.
Ultimate Spider-Man is my Spider-Man
So many people are so mad that mj and Peter are not together and it is their sole focus . His run wasn't that good but let's focus on new stories and new concepts instead of the nostalgic stuff all the time.
I hate this book and frankly this entire issue didn’t resolve anything and just had zeb wells said I am going to leave everything broken and wash my hands of this garbage to let another writer clean up the mess which is just sad and pathetic in my opinion for the next writer to fix his mess that he broke and to make it ten times worse is that marvel refuses to undo the damage instead say i don't know let peter parker and mary jane get back together and remember everything they lost and finally finding there daughter mayday parker the future spider-girl there daughter and destroy mephisto permanently, we now have this awful character paul who nobody likes myself included, who really needs to get hit by a truck literally and go away forever and never come back ever at least in my opinion. In conclusion this entire run was freaking garbage and even with Joe Kelly on the book nothing is going to change because editorial are so petty to the point that they would rather have this character fail a lot just to fit there own ego and pettiness which is just sad and depressing in my opinion.
I dropped off after about issue 10 or so. The main thing I'm going to miss is your Paul rants 😂😂😂 fingers crossed for you & all Spider-Man fans going forward tho man! Much ❤
I was happy (momentarily) when Nick Spencer's run ended because I thought it couldn't get any worse. I was wrong by a country mile. Zeb Wells' run was absolutely horrible. It got way worse. This has to be the "lowest" point in the entire ASM run. I'm trying to be optimistic about the "new team" but how many times can we (the fans) get dumped on over and over. Nothing will change until Nick Lowe is GONE. Marvel needs to clean house in the management department and get back to "good storytelling with great art".
My favorite (artist) run was with john romita senior, made the characters feel real on page and got to see the original crew of peter, harry, flash, Gwen and MJ go from best friends to... Well alot of things and those interactions felt so real. My favorite spiderman artist.
I'm so glad its finally over, i dropped off around gang war, the whole run sucked. Excited to pick it back up with the new team!
i like the CHASM story line. Ben and Kaine have not been used in a LONG while in a main storyline. the new powers, the Eternal mind control, and KAINE trying to help. This has a movie plot all over it.
Nothing you said was wrong here. I agree. I’m not sold on the next ASM arc or creative direction. I buy Ultimate Spidey and Miles’ main comic, but I’m not sure if ASM will continue to be a comic I buy. I could jump back into ASM in 2025 when the 8 Deaths is over. We’ll see.
10:40 Number 32 of Amazing SM is also part of that Kraven's arch (so is from 32 to 35). I am not a huge fan of Spidey anymore, but number 32 was actually my favorite issue in probably the last lustrum of SM. And yes, I would also highly recommend to get those 4 numbers (skip the rest).
I kind of feel Marvel doesn't know what to do with ASM anymore. They can't put the book to sleep because it's their highest selling title and the most recognizable comic in the entire world. If I were Marvel, I'd, y'know listen to what readers want to see and implement that, but they won't. I liked Hallow's Eve though. Wish I could get my $8 back for this ASM comic.... oh well, it'll be up for sale next year at a convention for $1.
Take jackpot out of Asm and let her plot with Paul and her friendship with Felicia bloom and develop for the fans that like that.
Give Peter a real love interest. Let him grow!
Rek rap is hilarious!
Have Hallows Eve grow a rivalry with Jackpot so Spider-man can help out here and there with Jackpot to battle Hallow’s Eve and Chasm. That would make a good crossover
Always hilarious hearing u talk about this spidey run.
That Kraven arc is where I started and I agree it was good! Again the conclusion felt a bit rushed and there wasn’t much payoff but I had just got back into comics so for me I was like hey Amazing seems decent I’m going to read this! Picked up all three of those in an eBay auction for cheap just to check it out. At the time GangWar storyline had just started and seemed decent (before as you said it ended up going nowhere) and I was really enjoying the title. Picked up some back issues and found out that it was a bit of a train wreck up to that point wow. To me though it was at least bold and entertaining if not actually good. Post gangwar I realized that the run was just kind of story after story that never ended strong or had impact.. got bored and dropped it at issue 45.
Best thing about the newest ASM is the Adam Hughes variant cover.
Wreck rap is a great character 😂 imo, i think 🤔 that he brings that comedy feel to comics we are all missing.
Shouldn't Peter be the one to add the comedy in the Comic?
@@ComicBookCorner2.0 humor has many levels 🤣 wreck rap has a bizarro superman type humor.
MJ is so messed up she is basically MJ in name only. They changed her to such a deep fundamental core of her. It's disgusting.
I forgot that Aunt May didn't know Peter is Spider-Man. One More Day and Beand New Day were stupid amd reverberate to this day.
Also, it would be bad form to kill a major character in the last issue right before a new writer takes over.
Every thing you said was on point Mike. The Zeb Wells run will probably go down THE WORST run of The Amazing Spider-Man. It was insulting, condescending, pointless, and most importantly just absolutely soulless. As one reviewer over on the Spider Man Crawlspace site put it, Zeb Wells is like the kid who put away his favorite toys while leaving a huge mess behind in his wake for others to clean up.
Thanks to Wells and Nick Lowe, MJ now has this reputation of someone who cheated on Peter .Which she ABSOLUTELY DID NOT, as she was directly manipulated and forced into a relationship with Paul by raising two fake magical kids, created by a variant of Paul’s dad for his stupid ritual to become a god. Also that last story featuring MJ and Peter was such a deliberate middle finger to the fans who wanted them back. Now MJ is dating a douche bag who was complicit in genocide, while Peter gets to date Aunt Anna’s nurse Shay, who is already confirmed to be another forgettable character that dated Peter.
My guess is JRJR phoned it in after reading the scripts. He’s teaming up with Mark Millar again in 2025 so we will see.
end the biweekly issue.
Even if they started ASM with a new number one with a picture of Peter and Mary together....
Naw....
I'm probably not gonna buy it.
I read a lot of spider man. But all I read is the noncanonicals. Ultimate spiderman, spiderman life story, spiders shadow, friendly neighborhood spider man.
They put out a lot of good spider man comics. But no matter the creative team, ASM has been consistently bad.
I didn’t read much of this run, but it just feels like after Slott, it’s been a struggle of people stuck between doing more of the same vs trying something new. I only made it halfway through Spencer’s run too. At least the new book looks interesting.
A very inconstant run from the story telling and art. Let's hope Kelly can do better.
I hope so too
The tentacles have been shown to have a mind before. Don't remember who did it but they went to go look for Peter that one time 😅
In addition, Paul Bimbofied Mary Jane. Nah. Don't like Paul.
There may have been a worse run than Wells, but off the top of my head, I can't think of one.
LoL because it shows you how bad it actually is.
@@ComicBookCorner2.0 It was horrible!
I couldn’t continue this Zeb Wells run. I got fed up at issue 49 and dropped it. It’s unfortunate because I love Spider-Man. I agree with your entire assessment of Zeb’s run although I don’t think it’s entirely his fault. Editorial is to blame for a lot of this between all of the stupid “events” and things like Paul, Spideys new suit and that whole gimmick and so on. I think if Zeb was able to do his own stories without editorial in the way it could’ve been much better. And as unfortunate as it is for me to say, I couldn’t stand Jr Jr’s artwork. He’s not the same artist. Very unfortunate but I am looking forward to what’s coming.
" I think if Zeb was able to do his own stories without editorial in the way it could've been much better "
Well you're gonna get your wish. Zeb Wells signed up with Rick remenders Giant Generator imprint at image comics.hes gonna write (or co write) his own comic without the BS editorial interference.
Man looking at those previews for 8 deaths it looks Justina Ireland is writing a bit of this arc. I really hope that’s not our new writer for ASM going forward. I don’t wanna be mean here, but I’ve never heard of her. I really hope Joe will stick and be the main writer at least.
I don't know about you guys but I think Mike's disappointed
My favorite part of the rant is when he says how the ‘events’ just mess things up. THIS is how i feel about most of these events. Hindering creativity and straight up cash grabs
Yeah pretty upset. His overall story was Tombstone and at the end nothing happened. He lived, and never went to jail.
The only hope to save Spider-Man is another One More Day and reboot everything.
"Its done" Frodo said calmly
I'm actually a huge fan of jr jr lol. I think his spiderman is a cool mix of classic cartooning and exaggeration like ditko or Kirby. I think the weakness with this run is really the storytelling unfortunately. But love your videos and opinions as always!
I never really read ASM I picked up a copy for a cover ;-) .. and tried to read it .. worst thing I've ever read (possibly if I got to the end) .. .. this was soo bad. Artwork was awful.
Marvel went very wrong when they killed original Hobgoblin. The Rose (Kingpin's son) was a cool crime boss but Marvel killed him. Why? They brought back Norman Osborn. Fine. They give him more superpowers. Wrong. He gets a sidekick. Omg. Peter tells on TV that he is Spidey. Wrong. I actually liked him telling JJJ, but that turned out bad. Marvel needs a good editor to stop things like these.
Excellent video Mike, you make numerous good points, all of which I agree with. The introduction of Paul is the dumbest thing ever, not one person likes the character. Jackpot as a hero is silly, her costume is atrocious, and her powers are too simple/easy. Black Cat should always been in Peter's life in some manner. Peter and Felica were dating and then broke up and she disappeared. Every character in town was in Gang War, but Black Cat nowhere to be seen? Come on, you know she would have been involved somehow. I wonder how much of the blame should go to the editors? Did Wells want to go further in stories and get held back by editors? I don't know.
There is no doubt the comic book community is not happy with ASM. At NYCC there was a panel with the ASM editor, and he had to leave the room due to the number of readers telling him how bad ASM has become. I am hoping we get someone good and as you said, Peter gets shot in the head.
Zeb Wells’ divorce from SNL’s Heidi Gardner last year is likely the biggest reason for things like Paul and the drama between Peter & MJ and how they’re never reuniting as a couple.
Of course a writer’s real life is going to play into their work.
I could totally understand that however it just doesn't make any sense. Like why can't Peter just have a relationship at least with black cat then.
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 agree, what a waste of paper!! Although I do agree that Hallow's Eve is the best that happened 😂
Yeah they concept of that character is pretty badass They could really make her evil if they wanted to
I still think that the J. Michael Straczynski and John Romita Jr. run on Spider-Man is my favorite, still undisputed.
The Wells run on ASM was my first series read unfortunately. Hopefully the next run is better. Thanks
$8 garbage! I’m sticking with USM
Disney Comics is all about those variant cover posters, the printed paper in between the floopy is just there to justify a higher price. These aren't stories to amaze or inspire anymore. Just made to keep money coming in and the IP out in the public eye
Amen!!!
20:19 sorry to tell you, but the problem won't be solved by switching creative teams. The next creative team will have to deal with the same problems as Zeb Wells and the others (heavy editorial mandate, fans who will constantly ask them to fix One more day, online harassment,etc).
Such a confusing run started good but mid and ending was so bad. Can't wait for the new run to jump back on
As someone getting back into comics in 2022 I started reading this run. Im a spidey guy so I thought it was a no brainer. Let's just say I didn't even last till gang war. Rekraps stupid along with pretty much all the other stuff. 8 deaths of spider-man doesn't look any better in my opinion. Ill stick to my image books amd be happy. Rook baby! Now that's a comic. 3.99 card stock cover and art that makes romita jr look like my 4 year old drew it.
JRJRs pencils are not the problem it's the way he was colored was the issue!! When he is doing spider man it needs to be colored bright and colorful like in super many year one is recent jrjr to compare this AMS run to
This run is gonna make a helluva retrospective in 10 years lol. What did they think they were doing…😂
I got 1 to 34. I feel I missed nothing since. Im intrigued and hopeful for what's next
I got the Adam Hughes cover will definitely read it when I come back from work
Adam hughes Black cat and jackpot cover it pretty much sold out the 4th store that I go has only 2 so I grab it.
Zeb’s run is by far the worst run on ASM even worse than Howard Mackie’s. Nick Spencer made ASM legit again but Welles ruined that momentum.
The good:
The first Tombstone arc.
The Hobgoblin story.
Norman as a good guy.
White Rabbit bring practically a regular cast member.
I’ll even accept #900 as ok.
Hallow’s Eve.
The bad:
Chasm.
Gangwar(it was better in the 80s).
The glider(but tolerable since Spidey did used to have a Spider-Mobile, plus it fit the story)
The Ock story
The Kraven Story
Jackpot🤦♂️
Then the ugly:
Pretty much everything else.
JR jr’s worst art.
Dark Web 🤮
The Rabin story( I absolutely adore the original from #555-557 and this shat on that)
Rek-Rap🤮🤮🤮 he’s nothing like Bizarro, he’s more like Bat-Mite meets Jar Jar Binks.
Paul🤮🤮🤮🤮 an abomination to the series and if someone wanted to at least make this whole run tolerable, Paul would be revealed as Mephisto or a minion of his who’s been pulling the strings the whole time.
Can somebody please talk Jed McKay into taking over after 8 Deaths? I feel like he’s the only current writer at Marvel that could do a decent job.
I dropped ASM halfway through Zeb’s run. It will take a lot for me to pick it up again.
LOL😂😂😂😂 D- , F+ . Paul is my guy Mike … JK THIS video is spot on though . No more Rekrap . Just get to more street level adventures, single issue grounded stories .
At least Ed McGuinness made a ton of money selling his original comic pages, comic art collectors went ape shit for them.
Best of luck on the next run. Hopefully it works out better for Spidey than it has for X-men fans. New mutant books are trash or printed embodiment of “meh”.
🎯The Peter Parker of the 616 universe doesn’t get to have a happy ending. That’s why his Gwen is dead and Uncle He’s not married to MJ while always being broke. That’s the character you feel in love with and he’s not changing.
Doc Ock’s arms “you’re not my real dad I’ll go with whoever I want” 😂
Romita Jr was at a local show this past weekend I thought his line was going to be packed surprisingly no his table was pretty empty
He signed some stuff for a CGC authorized dealer and he had a meet and greet event on Sunday
He was kinda pricey so I did stop over
I don’t regret not continuing with this run Chasm is a cool design but there was no payoff to invest in Chasm
Hallows Eve very fun design I think her mini series did better than Chasm but again where’s the investment
Black Cat going missing is odd she’s fought Scorpion and Carnage along with Spider-Man and being a thief character she should’ve been involved with gang war somehow
Like maybe she stole plans from one of the villains to show Spider-Man and prevent it but they blame the other gang for the theft and it starts the fighting earlier than planned
People early were like Jr Jr no thanks I wanted to give it a chance but man what a waste of time and ideas that could’ve been good but ruined by something else later on
I’m definitely staying done with new Spider-Man..I’ll read new stuff like Conan over at Titan but back issue stuff wasn’t all masterpieces either but there’s reason people love the Conway run on Spider-Man
And I don’t know if everything has been done to death or if the writer just isn’t keeping things structured enough to tell a good story
Batman and Superman are way older and worlds finest is fun..and the original Worlds finest run was never a title I cared about the only major key is 1st Scarecrow in issue 3
I tell you when it comes to Spider-Man I think editorial has a huge play in it.
In my 40+ of reading, this is definitely not my favorite run of Amazing Spider-Man. As for Dr. Ock arms, even tho they were originally fused to him, they haven’t been since the late ‘60’s. Hell, at the end of issue #56 the US Army was able to remove them and take him into custody. The arms started showing some form of sentience in issues #88 when they were on display at a museum and suddenly came to “life” and ran off to free Ock from prison.
🎯Amazing Spider-Man is and always will be a coming of age story. He’s not going to grow beyond 25. He’s meant for younger readers always and forever. You should be reading Ultimate Spider-Man if you want growth. I agree Romita art blows, he probably just meets deadlines. Amazing Spider-Man 1-300 will never be replicated.
The trash truck came at 21:21 to take out this run of ASM
That's hilarious
Bet he couldnt sell this run at the garage sale
15:10 exactly right, it felt pretty contrived forcing mrs marvel into Spider-Man and X-Men with no real consequences in either story. It left a bad taste in my mouth and I don't even dislike her character.
Not only is this the worst spidy run , it's one of the worst comic runs of all time ! So happy to move on to a new writer!
The iconic ASM character of all time..Paul LOL!
Enjoy your weekend buddy 😂❤❤❤❤
I tried and done with Spider-man. Drop all but Ultimate.
At least we got a Hughes Black Cat.
LOL that's true.
Horrible ideas and terrible writing are NOT how the series should be kept fresh.
New and bold riding is fine.
Moronic writing is not.
It's over... May the next run be great.
Most likely not. Just more of Peter being cucked and embarrassed.
That's how I felt when Ram V's run of terror on Detective ended. I look forward to the end of Spurrier on The Flash as well.
And right on cue the garbage man arrives at the end of the video, that guy is psychic!
LOL 😂😂😂😂
Easy fix Marvel needs to get Peter and Mary Jane remarried and have a daughter who is destined to be future Spider Girl. And The Amazing Spider-Man Wil sell out like crazy. Fans will be celebrating.
What a crappy way to end a run, 2 issues of chasing tombstone then court room crap.
Absolutely so uneventful and accomplished nothing.
It occurs to me that Hallows Eve and Mary Jane Jack pot have the same power set.
No one knows what Jackpot's power set is, not even her. That character is trash.
You'd think that the sales success of Ultimate Spider-Man would show them what people are looking for in the main universe -- but.... come on. ASM hasn't been even close to interesting since the Superior Spider-Man run.
I hate admitting this, because I'm a hypocrite when it comes to ASM. I stopped reading it. I think it's been terrible for a long time. It was terrible when I was reading it, and from what I've heard from basically everyone else I listen to, it's still terrible. But I've kept buying it. I shouldn't have been, but I have.
But, I'm going to read the next issue. I hope, not expect, but hope, this 9 Lives of Peter storyline will be fun. If I hate it...I dunno. I hope that I can drop it, but will I? We'll see.
Thank God 🙏🤣 it's over buddy ❤
It started good first 9 issues were cool. Then it fell hard!
So…51 issues of kindling and years of disappointment 😂
I have the death of Aunt May with her knowing that Peter is Spider Man. What am I missing here?
New Spider-Man Paul become spider man parker dies than we get spider man and MJ still together.😂
Isn't Aunt May already dead? ASM #400 is a whole comic about Aunt May dying and knowing Peter's identity all along and I thought his deal with Mephisto was for the soul of Aunt May, if Mephisto can raise people from the dead, he's not the devil then, I'm not reading ASM anymore, shits just being thrown out there
Kind of poet you are ranting and they got the leaf blower going lol
John Romita Jr better be back!!
You must be crazy. JRjr artwork now is completely lazy&awful. He hasn't been good since WWHulk storyline
@0112jesse Booo!
This was the first and only run I have read and it was horrible. Glad it’s over.
Today is national calzone day
I haven’t bought a SPIDERMAN comic in a big while. I knew about this run and its horrible reputation.
The same thing happened to me, I dropped both Detective and Batman. That character is also going through some bizarre abuse.
There is an agenda within the comic book industry and that’s to destroy the legacy of every great superhero (especially male ) written in the modern era today.
There’s a method they use. It’s repetitious, malicious and very much a disturbing trend.
I’m hoping to make a big video essay on it someday. Trust me the crumbs are there.
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One More Days is first one
Zeb Wells Amazing Spider-Man is second one!
Bad writing!
Oh yeah absolutely
You're not getting a better Spider-Man team until the editor is gone ..Nick whatever his name is
Yeah you're 100% right on that one I should actually discussed that a little bit more because he definitely has a huge say of what goes on in the comic book I only mentioned it a little bit and that was during the whole Ms Marvel bit.
Romita Jr and Frank Miller have completely lost their touch. Not sure if it’s age but the art is terrible now. Romita Jr. has gone to a box style in the faces and it’s not good. The Hallows Eve character is a keeper. She’s very cool.
Great points. Very curious on the direction with Hallows Eve.
Damn Mike! Tell us how you really feel!😂