How to REALLY fly a Lazy Eight - Commercial Pilot Maneuver

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  • @dr.barbeque2767
    @dr.barbeque2767 Рік тому +86

    Passed my commercial checkride today and wanted to thank you for posting this video. I did a lazy eight and this video was huge in my mastery of this maneuver

  • @joro18d93
    @joro18d93 4 роки тому +49

    I commented when I first saw this video then I practiced it with precision on the first try. I showed my CFI and he was very impressed. He said it's not fair that you can do this so easily and everyone else struggles with it including him. He tried it and loved the technique. 2 Thumbs up again.

  • @MichaelLloyd
    @MichaelLloyd 6 років тому +174

    I have never seen it taught that way. Outstanding!!

    • @texasscout1
      @texasscout1 5 років тому +2

      I totally agree, I’m just a signed off from taking my check ride and this maneuver is still eating my lunch.

    • @747-pilot
      @747-pilot 5 років тому

      Ric P Exactly. My checkride is next week. This maneuver seems the most difficult, in addition to chandelles, although they are a bit easier. My instructor did not teach it this way, although she did say to be veeeerrrry laaaaazy, sooooo laaaazy, 😆 with the maneuver! I’m really glad to have found this video and the one on chandelles. For some reason I don’t seem to have much of a problem with eight-on-pylons.

  • @jacyborreaux919
    @jacyborreaux919 5 років тому +9

    I have a commercial license and was never able to do good lazy eights. I'm glad the DPE didn't asked me to do one in my checkride. Anyway I went out and tried this method and it just works! Outstanding

  • @flyboy6354
    @flyboy6354 6 років тому +82

    Outstanding video! I just passed my commercial in June and I wish I had been taught it that way. So much more sense!

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому +6

      Congrats! Never too late to go have fun and check out how it works. It's really the only maneuver that teaches over banking in a slowing turn and that's an important concept to know well.

  • @e.normusbalzac7605
    @e.normusbalzac7605 6 років тому +42

    This is a priceless demonstration that takes all the mystery out of the Lazy-8 ------- thanks SO MUCH for sharing this!! I'm going to get in my airplane this weekend and try it out!

  • @SleepyHapa
    @SleepyHapa 5 років тому +13

    Currently working on my commercial and I have been struggling with my Lazy Eights. I learned that I might be over-controlling the plane and releasing a little too late. I'm going to apply what I learned on tomorrows flight! Wish me luck!

    • @sgtjonzo
      @sgtjonzo 9 місяців тому

      how'd you go?

  • @TPlasticModellingT
    @TPlasticModellingT 5 років тому +9

    Thank you for the video, I learned more from you in 10 minutes than in a few hours with 2 different instructors, now this makes total sense!!

  • @downwithreactionaries9031
    @downwithreactionaries9031 6 років тому +37

    I am going through my CPL training, struggling in the maneuvers. This is definitely the best training video ever seen. Can you demo some other CPL maneuvers as well. Bet that will help a lot of struggling students. Thank you!

  • @randybranson1009
    @randybranson1009 3 роки тому +1

    When working on my Commercial ticket, the Lazy 8 was my favorite one. I still like doing them (30 years later) as a relaxing maneuver and one that's actually enjoyable for passengers to experience.

  • @abruzzim
    @abruzzim 6 років тому +2

    You may be the first instructor I have come across who can explain the Lazy Eight in a way that makes it possible. I'm currently training for my CFI-A certificate and will give your method a try. Stay tuned!

  • @flygirl6048
    @flygirl6048 4 роки тому +2

    I wish I had seen this for my commercial... That being said, now i'm doing my CFI and the maneuver FINALLY makes sense!

  • @eddapilot9546
    @eddapilot9546 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much, because of this I passed my CFI ride, I can’t never thank you enough!

  • @medyassinelkhider2269
    @medyassinelkhider2269 4 роки тому +2

    I have done the maneuvers several times before but after watching you I feel like I finally understand it and can spot different errors that I usually make. THank you

  • @FoxVictorBravo
    @FoxVictorBravo 6 років тому +6

    That was excellent, never seen it explained this way. Makes so much sense now and that explains why I have been struggling with having too much bank at the 90 degree point.

    • @FoxVictorBravo
      @FoxVictorBravo 6 років тому +2

      Hey Jason, thought I'd share a quick update. I went for my CFI initial checkride last week and guess what maneuver I had to teach on the white board for Area 4... That's right, the lazy 8. It's really funny because this maneuver was the one I had the most trouble with during my Commercial training. Now and thanks to this video, it is the one I enjoy flying the most and I think it will be a lot of fun to teach as well. The DPE was pretty impressed by my performance. He mentioned that the #1 issue he sees over and over with pilots and CFIs is too much bank at the 90 degree point, i.e. over-controlling the airplane. That didn't surprise me one bit since I had that problem too initially. Anyways, just wanted to thank you once again for sharing this video. This is such an elegant maneuver when flown properly. Oh, and I passed on the first attempt :-) Looking forward to teaching.

  • @danasampson818
    @danasampson818 5 років тому +2

    I am working on my commercial. I have been practicing Lazy 8’s and have been struggling with them. I will try this method on Monday!

  • @thizswagblapcity
    @thizswagblapcity 6 років тому +7

    Just showed a struggling student this and they performed it perfectly first try!

  • @elsieparker8802
    @elsieparker8802 4 роки тому +4

    Thanks so much for this! I just went up and nailed this maneuver on my second try! It was so satisfying I was literally laughing with delight as I leveled off. Thanks!!

  • @Blueskiesntailwinds
    @Blueskiesntailwinds 11 місяців тому

    I'm super excited to go up and nail this maneuver, after having seen this. This channel is one of my favorites!

  • @nickromanick4022
    @nickromanick4022 6 років тому +5

    I’m working on my commercial single, and I like the feel of doing it this way. I still had to add more bank input in the LSA I’m in, but this worked so beautifully. I was taught pitch-pitch-bank as my first introduction to this maneuver, and that made no sense to my brain. As I said, this worked great!

  • @malcolmsmart5214
    @malcolmsmart5214 5 років тому +1

    My compliments to you, you're a great instructor. I got my private in 1975 when I was 15 and was fortunate to have a good instructor who had me doing these maneuvers even though they weren't required for a private license. Even did spin training and all of this really helped build my confidence to take my check ride after 35 hours. I have several thousand hours now and still value what he taught me over 40 years ago.

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  5 років тому

      Thank you! It's great to hear that from an experienced pilot

  • @peacefulrelaxation-hy6tb
    @peacefulrelaxation-hy6tb 9 місяців тому

    Best Video Ever on Lazy 8! I'm almost through my CFI course and I still reference this video. Thank you so much!

  • @annabanana4789
    @annabanana4789 4 роки тому +1

    Hands down, best explanation of this maneuver on the internet. Thank you!!!

  • @Xaunoki
    @Xaunoki 5 місяців тому

    I'm currently practicing Commercial manuevers and this tutorial was fantastic! Thank you!

  • @jefar53
    @jefar53 4 роки тому

    Holy crap as a CFI myself you have taught me a better way to teach this maneuver thank you

  • @drewbrown7513
    @drewbrown7513 5 місяців тому

    This is crazy. Couldn’t do these for the longest time watched this video and boom it’s easy. Definitely one of my favorites now

  • @abbieamavi
    @abbieamavi 4 роки тому

    *to echo off the comments below...that was the simplest and best explanation I've ever heard. and I'm definitely a visual hands on learner, but your textual/auditory definition of it clicked right away from me!! I'm glad I AM here BEFORE my commercial checkride. Thank you so much!!*

  • @Xmaster_404
    @Xmaster_404 4 роки тому +1

    Perfect, just the way that i need to be taught about this maneuver, I was struggling, no I feel more confident. Great job

  • @footeythegreat
    @footeythegreat 5 років тому +2

    i havent heard the manuever explained this way before, ill have to try it on my next lesson. Thanks its always been one that i struggled with

  • @kd7osk
    @kd7osk 5 років тому +1

    Fouled this maneuver up on my CFI check-ride yesterday. I'm going to try this technique this evening.

  • @loveplanes
    @loveplanes 4 роки тому

    Hey Jason. I usually don't make comments just when I saw something really stupid or something great. I wanted to thank you for this video. Literally you saved me money and thought me how to fly this maneuver. With no doubt, keeping your both, again both hands over your knees is a key factor here. Is easy to measure and handling the force you are applying on the yoke and controlling the whole maneuver. I practice this maneuver yesterday and I nailed it. Thanks again! Some ppl thinks that all is in the books but this kind of tips only comes from the experience. By the way, it works for the chandelles as well.

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  Рік тому

      Awesome! I'm so glad you found the video and that it helped!

  • @gerryortiz7276
    @gerryortiz7276 5 років тому +2

    I learned it this way as well also was taught to Imagine as if there is a sharpie on the edge of the spinner and paint the 8 in the sky will help as well visualizing your 45 in the sky as well as the ground

  • @TiagoSeiler
    @TiagoSeiler 9 місяців тому +1

    First lazy 8 maneuvers today, it went alright but I was very focused on my instrument readings (15 bank at 45, 30 at 90, etc). Now I've seen this video and I'll try again tomorrow. Let's see how it goes!

  • @andrewgodfrey1551
    @andrewgodfrey1551 6 років тому +1

    Thank you. Thank you. Thank you! Love that you give an easy-to-understand explanation and easy-to-do demonstration! I’m going for my Commercial checkride next week. Great video to cement in my brain

  • @felipesanhueza5499
    @felipesanhueza5499 4 роки тому

    Thanks!! I am from Chile and I just found your video in the right time!! Let's put this in practice tomorrow!! Excellent way to explain!

  • @mrkc10
    @mrkc10 11 місяців тому

    Great video. Just discovered your channel. The multiple camera angles makes understanding this maneuver that much easier. Nicely done sir.

  • @led.santos
    @led.santos 6 років тому +3

    That's perfect instructions!! I'm a CFI in Brazil, and also own an UA-cam channel about flying lessons, and will use some of your information and beautiful way to teach with my students. Thanks a lot

  • @jonathanknight89
    @jonathanknight89 6 років тому +4

    This is the absolutely best explanation I’ve ever seen.

  • @scottwillson5562
    @scottwillson5562 4 роки тому

    i've watched this probably 20 times and today it made sense to me. thank you.

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  4 роки тому

      haha -- Awesome! Thanks for hanging in there

  • @freireroberto
    @freireroberto 3 роки тому

    I just practice this maneuver with my CFI yesterday. I loved it! Thanks for sharing.

  • @brianparkman8183
    @brianparkman8183 6 років тому +2

    This has been my hardest maneuver to learn and I'm taking my commercial check ride in a couple of weeks. Can't wait to try it out. You make it so simple.

  • @REBooner30
    @REBooner30 6 років тому +1

    Lazy 8s with my CFI today! Interesting that for students who struggle with this maneuver he teaches it the same way you demonstrate here. Essentially start with slight bank and pull using only rudder to stay coordinated. It’s going to take some practice to nail the airspeed at the bottom\180 but I was fairly successful hitting the altitude bogey to both the left and right. Your video helped me immensely in prep for this. Thanks 🙏

  • @seanlambie3758
    @seanlambie3758 6 років тому +4

    Jason! These instructional videos of yours are really awesome! Your knowledge is second to none, the explanations are clear and concise and you package it all up into a great little short video with clear audio to boot! Nicely done! (BTW I've got almost 15,000 hrs flight experience and your videos keep me interested to the end!) Thanks!

  • @lancedixon8487
    @lancedixon8487 6 років тому +1

    awesome, passed instrument last week, now on to commercial, your a big help

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому

      Happy to hear that! Good luck on your commercial

  • @MusicmatchJukebox
    @MusicmatchJukebox 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome explanation, Jason! I’m currently on the cusp of my commercial checkride and this was incredibly informative. Definitely gonna try this tomorrow in the DA40.

  • @brianb5594
    @brianb5594 2 роки тому

    Great technique Jason! Much easier than the way I was taught this maneuver decades ago. Will use with my Commercial students. Thanks!

  • @scottwillson5562
    @scottwillson5562 3 роки тому

    just wanted to say i passed my commercial checkride yesterday. thank you.

  • @TroyWhistman
    @TroyWhistman 6 років тому +3

    Thank you! Working on Commercial maneuvers now, and this is so helpful. I’ve never seen them taught this way!
    Looking forward to your take on chandelles!

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому +1

      Awesome! This is how my old air force CFI (I wasn't in the service, he was) taught me to understand / perform them. It works! Chandelles may be next ...

  • @endolphin
    @endolphin 4 роки тому +1

    This is eye-opening. I've been having hard time to demystify the CPL textbook but your explanation is sooooooo easy and simple! THANK YOU!

  • @thegee-tahguy4877
    @thegee-tahguy4877 5 років тому +2

    Want flyin' zen? The first time doing 0Gs! By the 3rd time, you're one with the universe.

  • @Oni76
    @Oni76 6 років тому +1

    Jason, there's a beauty and simplicity in the way you teach that I absolutely enjoy. I've certainly used many of your tips through videos and podcasts for my PPL. Big thanks for sharing your time and effort. 👍🏼

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому +1

      Thanks for saying so Oni, It really means a lot to hear stuff like that, thx

  • @madisonromero3529
    @madisonromero3529 2 роки тому

    This makes me happy. What a simple elegant maneuver!

  • @colinthepilot
    @colinthepilot 6 років тому

    Dude! Mind blown! This was one of the hardest maneuvers during my commercial training, almost ten years ago. Now I'm training for my CFI, and this is one that I've been dreading doing with my instructor. I'm going to try this technique next week. Thanks!

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому

      Definitely try it this way, it will make it so much easier.

  • @apilotbgsu172
    @apilotbgsu172 5 років тому +3

    you definitely put that where the goats can get it! the explanation was the best I've heard so far. getting ready for the checkride.

  • @Aaronautics95
    @Aaronautics95 6 років тому +4

    Wish I could've seen this before my CFI ride back in June! Very excellent.

  • @AV8R_Surge
    @AV8R_Surge 5 років тому

    Never did lazy-8s and your explanation is easy to follow. Awesome

  • @JavaSQL
    @JavaSQL 3 роки тому

    Incredible instructions on how to perform the lazy eights using an unconventional explanation and analogy, Jason. This is why I love your videos. You help students visualize what's happening and then show them. 💯 Excellent stuff man.

  • @ArcticMayhem
    @ArcticMayhem 6 років тому +1

    Very well explained. Good stuff. I'll have to give this a try when I start working on my commercial. I'd love to see how you teach the other commercial maneuvers too.

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому

      There may be a Chandelle video close behind

  • @texasscout1
    @texasscout1 5 років тому +3

    Why didn’t I see this video first!? I am struggling with this maneuver I’ve been flying for a long time I am just over controlling, tomorrow morning I’m running out to the airport will pull out my Cherokee 180 and do exactly this way. Thank you so much

  • @brianyurkovitch5744
    @brianyurkovitch5744 6 років тому

    Great video. It has been a long time since I have done a lazy 8. I love how you demonstrate the maneuver. I have been away from flying for almost 20 years but great videos like this really increasing my desire to get back in the air. Keep up the good work.

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому +1

      Join us up there again Brian! I have never seen a time like this for aviation. I feel like a child of the drought. We're headed back into a golden age.

  • @RJ1Reed
    @RJ1Reed 7 місяців тому

    Dude! That’s such good info I can’t wait to get back in the plane cuz my commercial check-ride is next Tuesday :)

  • @nrnrnrnrn4527
    @nrnrnrnrn4527 4 роки тому +1

    Man I really appreciated you guys taking the time of sharing some of you knowledge ..this is extremely helpful to me I ve been struggling with this maneuver and this just clear my head on how actually execut it

  • @ryanmcfarland6086
    @ryanmcfarland6086 6 років тому

    Great video! Your explanation of the lazy eight is much better than any of the instructors I've flown with. Thanks!

  • @PilotCristina
    @PilotCristina 4 роки тому

    Awesome! I did some today with your technique and I can’t believe how much I’ve been overthinking it but with your video it has made this maneuver so much easier.

  • @jeffwh1
    @jeffwh1 Місяць тому

    Excellent video, wish I had been taught that way. Can't wait to go out and try it!

  • @chrisbjohannsen
    @chrisbjohannsen 6 років тому

    Found your channel after watching Flight Chops do your mountain flying course, which looks awesome. I really like your instruction style, very down to earth. I'm gonna bookmark this for my commercial training along with the chandelles video. I've attempted both with an instructor and I really like the way you explained it on the ground first, makes so much more sense.

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому

      Thanks! glad you found me. Welcome to the channel :-)

  • @deanadamedge
    @deanadamedge 3 роки тому

    I’m getting a LOT out of your videos! Many thanks…

  • @TheWColeman
    @TheWColeman 6 років тому +30

    Excellent! Chandelles next please!!

    • @TroyWhistman
      @TroyWhistman 6 років тому +1

      YES!! PLEASE!!

    • @REBooner30
      @REBooner30 6 років тому

      Yes!

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому +12

      It's funny, I just did Chandelles last week with a private pilot ... it's in a C172 (fixed gear) but still ... let me review the footage, I might be able to put that together quickly.

    • @vidmikevid
      @vidmikevid 5 років тому

      I am struggling with lazy eights. This makes sense to me and I need to go after it this way. Thanks, great way of explaining things!

  • @zipper978
    @zipper978 2 роки тому

    Your instruction helped me pass my commercial

  • @benwu7
    @benwu7 4 роки тому

    Working on commercial on my bonanza. This is great explanation! Will try next time I practice.

  • @antoniocomputersbarreto7429
    @antoniocomputersbarreto7429 4 роки тому

    Nicely done. The easiest way to do it. Never seen it before.
    God bless America long live the Republic

  • @dustinbrooks8805
    @dustinbrooks8805 5 років тому

    Thanks for sharing! Just started commercial, will be practicing these later this week!

  • @connorgibson3654
    @connorgibson3654 2 роки тому

    this video is great!! it easly made lazy 8's from my worst manover to my best

  • @michaelodriscoll9993
    @michaelodriscoll9993 3 роки тому

    I will be trying this technique next week. Thanks for the instructional video!!

  • @tinothepilot
    @tinothepilot 3 роки тому

    Fantastic points of training. Just want to go out and do these, now.

  • @antiNuetron
    @antiNuetron 4 роки тому

    I haven't done a Lazy 8 or a Chandelle since my commercial checkride in 1980.
    I think I'll go out and practise them.

  • @TheFinerPoints
    @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому

    Just added a "Common Errors on Lazy Eights" video to Patreon (www.patreon.com/learntfp ). If you are flying this and it's not going as smoothly as you see here, check out that video to make sure you're not making one of the common errors.

  • @duchesspecson1379
    @duchesspecson1379 3 роки тому +1

    Man, thank u for this! helped me a lot with my controls

  • @KonradT4
    @KonradT4 5 років тому

    Thank you so much, you have explained it very clearly. I just flew some lazy 8s following your advice. Now I understand how they are supposed to work it is so much easier. Yes, very Zen, relaxing. I’m flying a LiteFlite Dragonfly. In a lazy 8 it needs only light pressure from fingertips on the stick. The right hand turn is a little trickier. If I apply enough right rudder to centre the ball it tends to overbank. I need more practice.

  • @evelyns1741
    @evelyns1741 2 роки тому

    Great flight training! I wish you can make another video for steep spiral maneuver . Appreciate your help.

  • @ronaldofernandes2080
    @ronaldofernandes2080 6 років тому

    I'm still trying to understand what motivated 4 people to dislike this video. 4 people do not know how to appreciate great content.

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  5 років тому

      There are always haters. It's a law of universe, I think. Just be glad you're not one of them :)

  • @heycameraman4411
    @heycameraman4411 6 років тому +4

    Yes! So educational and helpful now that I'm going through my commercial training. I can't wait to get this maneuver happening with my instructor this weekend. Thanks yet again for a great video. :-)

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому +3

      Let me know how it goes!

    • @heycameraman4411
      @heycameraman4411 6 років тому +2

      The Finer Points Wilco

    • @UncategorizedContent
      @UncategorizedContent 3 роки тому +1

      @@heycameraman4411 if you can hear me say position and IDENT, over.

    • @UncategorizedContent
      @UncategorizedContent 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@TheFinerPoints I think it might be time to call search & rescue given he is 3 years past his ETA.

  • @normk5761
    @normk5761 6 років тому

    If I didn't know better I'd say that looks like the first C-152 ever made. Oh...wait...I DO know better and it IS the first 152 ever made! Excellent video, my thanks to both of you!

  • @Emipaso
    @Emipaso 6 років тому

    I can see JP's work in this video, and it looks AWESOME. Great video again.

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому

      Yes, JP did the filming, he's quite good at that. The B roll was fun to edit. Now if I can find out where he gets his music :)

  • @hsilva92
    @hsilva92 2 роки тому

    Great video man! Starting my commercial rating now and this was great information!

  • @Ohgr819
    @Ohgr819 6 років тому +1

    Dude! I've got my commercial checkride right after the new year. Gonna try this next time up. Thanks for this awesome explanation! I found it just in time :)

  • @michaellake2359
    @michaellake2359 6 років тому

    What a great method. When I took my commercial check ride in the 70's, my 8 sucked. I was hoping to do chandelles, my forte', but NOOOO! I never really grasped the concept. My examiner told me that he had no idea what I was doing but I had perfect control of the airplane. Yes, I passed.

  • @AAYGENTMULDER
    @AAYGENTMULDER 5 років тому

    This is an excellent video! Lazy 8s make so much more sense now! THANK YOU!

  • @mshoemaker11
    @mshoemaker11 6 років тому +1

    Thank you for this great demo of the Lazy 8s. I am HAM FISTEDLY struggling through maneuver and believe I am over controlling the plane. I will try your technique on my next flight and let the plane do the work. Let you know how it goes.

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому

      How did it go!?

    • @UncategorizedContent
      @UncategorizedContent 3 роки тому

      @@TheFinerPointsanother failed check in or forgot to close a flight plan. Better add another to search & rescue.

  • @joro18d93
    @joro18d93 4 роки тому

    That is an awesome and easy way to master this maneuver. Awesome vid. Thank You.

  • @Featurisation
    @Featurisation 5 років тому +1

    Perfect explanation and description of the maneuver. This helped a lot! Thank you

  • @goatflieg
    @goatflieg 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for this.. and the definitive difference between a lazy eight and a wingover. Always wondered about that.

  • @REBooner30
    @REBooner30 6 років тому +3

    Some of the best instructional videos on UA-cam. 👊🏻

  • @df0813
    @df0813 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for this video, it really helped me get my lazy 8's nice and lazy! However, a question for the pro: My DPE was not happy that I used the smallest amount of aileron when recovering at the end of the maneuver on the correct heading. Is it even realistic to expect a Cessna to somehow roll itself back level, on the correct heading and altitude, with NO aileron input? It's not how I was trained, and no one has ever corrected me for using a little aileron to make my maneuver precise. Thanks for all you do!

  • @PersonalWings
    @PersonalWings 2 роки тому +2

    5:15 is where the maneuver is :)

  • @mtnairpilot
    @mtnairpilot 4 роки тому +1

    Best explanation I've ever heard.

  • @TheNaxo1989
    @TheNaxo1989 Рік тому

    cant believe its that easy with this technique. Gotta try it. I am all over the place with aileron inputs XD!

  • @mentises
    @mentises 4 роки тому

    Did not it could be done that way. Much better and easier. Thanks! And thanks to JP as well.

  • @nickieshadowfaxbrooklyn5192
    @nickieshadowfaxbrooklyn5192 5 років тому

    Awesome. And it’s great to see JP here as well. I’ll try lazy 8 definitely.

  • @Aero360Aviation
    @Aero360Aviation 6 років тому +1

    Very well and simply explained! I love how you refer to it as a Zen maneuver :-D

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому +2

      haha, I had to google Zen to make sure I wasn't mis using the term ... but I refer to it as that all the time. Be the plane.

    • @Aero360Aviation
      @Aero360Aviation 6 років тому

      I think it is a great way to describe it!