Her E1 is much better than her S1, you're already easily reaching her break threshold, her sig gives break vulnerability, but with Gallagher and lingsha giving tons of it, and boothill, FF having it in built in their kits it scales pretty bad actually. You're better off using Resolution shines as pearls of sweat for more Def down, especially with cavalry, Boothill/FF sig , Ruan Mei E1, your damage will go up even higher.
Sure Pearls is better in most cases, that being said Pearls IS on rate-up on the banner. Keeping in mind Pearls isn't really at it's best until S5 due to the percent chance of the DEF lower, I think going for the banner with Pearls in mind instead is a good choice Imo.
Someone calculated this : First instance of break damage doesn't get to benefit Charring First instance of Superbreak benefits from 1 stack of Charring Second instance of break damage benefits from only 1 stack of Charring Second instance of Superbreak benefits from 2 stacks of Charring. Basically, charring is applied after breaking, and only gets full effect when breaking twice. So in-game, the time you'll actually be benefitting from the full Charring buff is very short. Plus, we have the Luka lc which is very very good in a team (break) where defense pen is also pretty high
Yup and E1 (50% weakness break efficiency) is way better lmao. I dont get why people argue about the break dmg taken when its never ever mentioned in gallangher/lingsha's kit
Eh while true that that the light con is trash, but somebody did a wrong calculation, cause the order of break is this toughness broken (small break bonus chance to apply weaknes dots) 18% get triggered then Superbreak Bonus who applies the 18% bonus on top. in case of Acheron it is toughness broken 18% lightning Weakness Break 36% Fugue Super Break.
@hanyuee1160 The order is this, if you break the White bar. weakness break bonus (a small % bonus damage, and 150% chance to apply weakness dots. based on the elements) that triggers the 18% bonus, then comes the Superbreak Bonus damage (each instance is counted seperatly). in case of Archeron , it is this order... Weaknes Break applies 18% Damage Break Buff, Lightning Weakness Break (it is counted like super break a special bonus damage who ignores toughness) 36% Damage break buff, then Super Break.
Her LC is actually kind of nice. It becomes a lot more valuable if you have Lingsha or Rappa who'll be hitting every enemy on the field for this bonus damage, and the added BE lets you run an ERR rope on her instead. The main downside is that both characters on the banner want to be vertically invested in their eidolons first so it becomes pretty low value when the alternatives are to make Fugue/Firefly double their damage.
@sizwenhari411 It's good in Pure Fiction for Himeko. I know her ult is just "big AOE break damage" but if you're already hitting your break threshold you may as well run it if you have this LC.
Eh Rappa is Erudition and Lingsha is Abundance, so they both cannot use that Lightcon. Himeko is Erudition so can't use it either. yeah I know some people hardly play this game. The issue is if Fugue was for example Abundance then that lightcon looks good, cause only Lingsha so far has a break Lightcon in Abudance, but Nihility has tons of Break lightcons.
break is THE way to play Luka (bro does millions with a good break build, easily). He needs Solitary Healing so I’m giving my Fugue Fermata lol. Fitting for the musical names
That Lightcon is trash, and it is true only use is Archeron, cause of her ultimate does a Lightning Weakness Break (who ignores toughness) is pre Superbreak bonus, then she gets Fugue Superbreak , so two times Lightning Weakness break and 2x Fugue Superbreak. so she gets 18% on first break 36% damage on the second break of her ultimate. So if you want to break a Breakacheron for what ever reason, cause you want to DO superB Damage on the RED bar sacrificing your Critical and Critical Damage. I would definetly not recommend it. for the pain you had to farm that Critical and Critical Damage gear, just slap some Break lightcon keep your critical relic set, and the rest wil be gotten from Buffs. Ruan Mei or Fugue itself. and see how you do with those two into Break Super Damage. and then decide if you want to farm new Relics to min max a set of Critical 50% Critical Damage 150% and Break 150% to get more damage.
you can't have bad luck farming break gear... really almost impossible farming Critical and critical Damage gear is all about luck. but Break hardly. they pop up so often as sub set. In almost every piece. your rope can be break effect, if you have bad luck. anyway even Fugue provides 12% or 24% break efficiency, Lingsha Ultimate provides 40 Break for 3 turns. relics set bonus provides roughly 16-56% break (depending on elements). the reason Superbreak took off so quickly is cause it is easy to farm the BREAK for the users. unlike Critical and Critical damage.
Y'all do realize she's a nihility character? She applies debuffs, with her skill and her lightcone. They are 100% BASE chance, so you'll want to build her with some amount of effectiveness. This lightcone allows her to get both the effectiveness she needs and the break effect she needs, as well as maintaining good speed.
The issue is that Fugue doesn’t have trouble reaching her stat goals unless you’re doing E2 + ERR rope + tutorial shenanigans (in which case this is all a moot point since you’re using tutorial). If you need BE, run solitary healing. If you need more damage, pull for Lingsha. It’s a good cone, but it doesn’t provide anything you can’t get elsewhere. It has a high opportunity cost in terms of Jade expenditure for a cone that’s only a “nice” upgrade. Meanwhile, if you want to vertically upgrade Fugue, her E1 gives the substantially rarer and more impactful break efficiency. If you want to increase the power level of your account, there are stronger cones for their characters (Acheron, Rappa) or just stronger support options vs just a cone (nearly every limited harmony not named sparkle, lingsha, aventurine)
@ Ok, but why do you have to do Sparkle like that? 😂 I mean, I don’t disagree that the light cone isn’t a must-pull. I just don’t want people to undervalue its use. Saying that it’s just luxury because of the 60 break effect undermines the fact that not everyone pays to refresh stamina, or has time to grind on a daily (I say this while being one that does grind daily). Gear rolls are not guaranteed. Free stats from light cones help you invest into other stats just so you can have at least a usable unit, and be able to move on to the next unit to gear up next patch. Mind you, I’m not trying to say the light cone is necessary. Just wanting people to know more about its true value before deciding it’s not worth it.
I guess I'll have to skip Fugue's S1 for now if I wanna have enough jades for THE Herta in 3.0. I still only have subpar relics with the right combinations for her kit (i.e. Speed, EHR and BE) so if push comes to shove I'll end up pulling for her LC.
@@kinohara8635 Fugue's best value is e0s0, don't try to pull for her LC. With the amount of in-game BE that is available, a normal ~170 BE outside combat will be enough.
Look you won't need her lightcon as previous person said, the Herta Lightcon is a different matter. herta lightcon refunds 1 skillpoint on a ultimate that is very important. even for other Erudition character. even if you hate The Herta and do not pull for her, check which team you are using in your current setup see which erudition character you are always using, and see if that 1 skill point benefits the team or not. Lightcons that action advance/action delay and skill points are always worth considering. or niche light cons like Break in Abudance character (cough lingsha) would it benefit other characters cause no other lightcons give break in Abudance path. The funny thing about Hoyo is that they don't seem to really understand why their lightcons are not selling well. cause they give OP bonus. but that bonus is easily gotten someplace else. as we have seen with Fugue Lightcon, they increased the BREAK and slapped on Damage Bonus, would be terrific for any other character then Fugue, cause Fugue Damage is bricked, they did it themselves by wanting no other Lingsha case for a while :P
I thought Before the Tutorial was a good LC because you definitely NEED EHR to even proc that def down. Which would help if you didn’t roll into it much.
She doesn't need that much EHR chest and some subs already gives you more than enough. Tutorial is an option for ult spam but the EHR thershold is easy to achive
I don’t think I’ll get her lightcone myself even though I’ll be using her a ton, S5 Resolution & Healing both do seem like they will be more then good enough on her
Don't worry she is made FOOLS proof, you Effective Hit rate on her Chest. (to apply that defense debuff ) Rope is Break Effect she gives herself enough break effect from traces 60. There is even a nihility 4 star Sunday Break Lightcon in the Herta or Battle Pass store (can't remember) so rather waste 10 bucks on that one then pull for S1 that cost maybe 80 Tickets (so atleast 100$ if top up bonus is used). you will very easily hit her 220 Break effect. with minimal luck. then you have set bonus who gives break.
Look her Lightcon is not BIS sadly... cause they bricked her traces up too much, forgetting to apply Attack Bonus stats. to make her a full fledge mid tier DPSER. Even Solitary Healing helps her Ultimate more cause of Effective Hitrating and you break somebody she will always apply a Fire DOT on Breaking somebody. thus regaining energy.
E1 is better than S1
@@mhbarney8499what? Her E1 is better than her S1.
@@TrentOhNo "Pls dont spread false Information. Hoyo players are probably casual enough to believe it. 😅"
Her E1 is much better than her S1, you're already easily reaching her break threshold, her sig gives break vulnerability, but with Gallagher and lingsha giving tons of it, and boothill, FF having it in built in their kits it scales pretty bad actually. You're better off using Resolution shines as pearls of sweat for more Def down, especially with cavalry, Boothill/FF sig , Ruan Mei E1, your damage will go up even higher.
@@sizwenhari411isn’t vulnerability debuff a 1:1 damage increase?
@@Lamb_p no
Gallagher and Ligma also has the break dmg taken up using their ult so you're not missing out that much from that part of her lc
Ah yes my fav hsr character Ligma
Sure Pearls is better in most cases, that being said Pearls IS on rate-up on the banner.
Keeping in mind Pearls isn't really at it's best until S5 due to the percent chance of the DEF lower, I think going for the banner with Pearls in mind instead is a good choice Imo.
Luckily I got 13 copies of it on my account
As somebody who hates swapping relics and lightcones between characters, this is a must pull lol
Same
Someone calculated this :
First instance of break damage doesn't get to benefit Charring
First instance of Superbreak benefits from 1 stack of Charring
Second instance of break damage benefits from only 1 stack of Charring
Second instance of Superbreak benefits from 2 stacks of Charring.
Basically, charring is applied after breaking, and only gets full effect when breaking twice. So in-game, the time you'll actually be benefitting from the full Charring buff is very short. Plus, we have the Luka lc which is very very good in a team (break) where defense pen is also pretty high
Yup and E1 (50% weakness break efficiency) is way better lmao. I dont get why people argue about the break dmg taken when its never ever mentioned in gallangher/lingsha's kit
Eh while true that that the light con is trash, but somebody did a wrong calculation, cause the order of break is this toughness broken (small break bonus chance to apply weaknes dots) 18% get triggered then Superbreak Bonus who applies the 18% bonus on top. in case of Acheron it is toughness broken 18% lightning Weakness Break 36% Fugue Super Break.
@@drakehound2244 could you please rewrite rephrase your comment a bit, I have a bit of difficulty understanding what you're trying to say
@hanyuee1160 The order is this, if you break the White bar. weakness break bonus (a small % bonus damage, and 150% chance to apply weakness dots. based on the elements) that triggers the 18% bonus, then comes the Superbreak Bonus damage (each instance is counted seperatly). in case of Archeron , it is this order... Weaknes Break applies 18% Damage Break Buff, Lightning Weakness Break (it is counted like super break a special bonus damage who ignores toughness) 36% Damage break buff, then Super Break.
@@drakehound2244 I see! But if I'm not mistaken, my calculations were right?
Not worth it, S5 Solitary Healing & Resolution will do the job, rather getting E1 over signature LC
I’m going to use Solitary Healing to get that Break. Not planning to use her with my Acheron because my DoT Acheron team is good enough.
Her LC is actually kind of nice. It becomes a lot more valuable if you have Lingsha or Rappa who'll be hitting every enemy on the field for this bonus damage, and the added BE lets you run an ERR rope on her instead. The main downside is that both characters on the banner want to be vertically invested in their eidolons first so it becomes pretty low value when the alternatives are to make Fugue/Firefly double their damage.
ERR isn't even worth it on her
@sizwenhari411 It's good in Pure Fiction for Himeko. I know her ult is just "big AOE break damage" but if you're already hitting your break threshold you may as well run it if you have this LC.
I bet that even for e2 situation that sw 4* lc what give u energy gonna be bis for 0 cycling just to spam her ult as much as possible
@@LetterSequence. In pf you'll be pretty much always using the Herta shop LC so that's not really a plus for this lc
Eh Rappa is Erudition and Lingsha is Abundance, so they both cannot use that Lightcon. Himeko is Erudition so can't use it either. yeah I know some people hardly play this game.
The issue is if Fugue was for example Abundance then that lightcon looks good, cause only Lingsha so far has a break Lightcon in Abudance, but Nihility has tons of Break lightcons.
break is THE way to play Luka (bro does millions with a good break build, easily). He needs Solitary Healing so I’m giving my Fugue Fermata lol. Fitting for the musical names
That Lightcon is trash, and it is true only use is Archeron, cause of her ultimate does a Lightning Weakness Break (who ignores toughness) is pre Superbreak bonus, then she gets Fugue Superbreak , so two times Lightning Weakness break and 2x Fugue Superbreak. so she gets 18% on first break 36% damage on the second break of her ultimate.
So if you want to break a Breakacheron for what ever reason, cause you want to DO superB Damage on the RED bar sacrificing your Critical and Critical Damage. I would definetly not recommend it. for the pain you had to farm that Critical and Critical Damage gear, just slap some Break lightcon keep your critical relic set, and the rest wil be gotten from Buffs. Ruan Mei or Fugue itself. and see how you do with those two into Break Super Damage. and then decide if you want to farm new Relics to min max a set of Critical 50% Critical Damage 150% and Break 150% to get more damage.
Thanks for the tip! Looks like skipping on sig might get me herta and aglaea in return haha I'm stocked in jades
Breacheron is gonna be insane lol
It's also for those who have bad luck farming gear, lol.
you can't have bad luck farming break gear... really almost impossible farming Critical and critical Damage gear is all about luck. but Break hardly. they pop up so often as sub set.
In almost every piece. your rope can be break effect, if you have bad luck. anyway even Fugue provides 12% or 24% break efficiency, Lingsha Ultimate provides 40 Break for 3 turns. relics set bonus provides roughly 16-56% break (depending on elements). the reason Superbreak took off so quickly is cause it is easy to farm the BREAK for the users. unlike Critical and Critical damage.
Is E0S0 Fugue worth it to replace HMC or is it better to save?
New cone for Luka and Break Welt/Sampo/etc lol
Y'all do realize she's a nihility character? She applies debuffs, with her skill and her lightcone. They are 100% BASE chance, so you'll want to build her with some amount of effectiveness. This lightcone allows her to get both the effectiveness she needs and the break effect she needs, as well as maintaining good speed.
The issue is that Fugue doesn’t have trouble reaching her stat goals unless you’re doing E2 + ERR rope + tutorial shenanigans (in which case this is all a moot point since you’re using tutorial). If you need BE, run solitary healing. If you need more damage, pull for Lingsha.
It’s a good cone, but it doesn’t provide anything you can’t get elsewhere. It has a high opportunity cost in terms of Jade expenditure for a cone that’s only a “nice” upgrade.
Meanwhile, if you want to vertically upgrade Fugue, her E1 gives the substantially rarer and more impactful break efficiency. If you want to increase the power level of your account, there are stronger cones for their characters (Acheron, Rappa) or just stronger support options vs just a cone (nearly every limited harmony not named sparkle, lingsha, aventurine)
@ Ok, but why do you have to do Sparkle like that? 😂
I mean, I don’t disagree that the light cone isn’t a must-pull. I just don’t want people to undervalue its use. Saying that it’s just luxury because of the 60 break effect undermines the fact that not everyone pays to refresh stamina, or has time to grind on a daily (I say this while being one that does grind daily). Gear rolls are not guaranteed. Free stats from light cones help you invest into other stats just so you can have at least a usable unit, and be able to move on to the next unit to gear up next patch.
Mind you, I’m not trying to say the light cone is necessary. Just wanting people to know more about its true value before deciding it’s not worth it.
I know e1 is better, but I'm still pulling her lightcone because it's beautiful
I guess I'll have to skip Fugue's S1 for now if I wanna have enough jades for THE Herta in 3.0.
I still only have subpar relics with the right combinations for her kit (i.e. Speed, EHR and BE) so if push comes to shove I'll end up pulling for her LC.
@@kinohara8635 Fugue's best value is e0s0, don't try to pull for her LC. With the amount of in-game BE that is available, a normal ~170 BE outside combat will be enough.
Look you won't need her lightcon as previous person said, the Herta Lightcon is a different matter. herta lightcon refunds 1 skillpoint on a ultimate that is very important. even for other Erudition character. even if you hate The Herta and do not pull for her, check which team you are using in your current setup see which erudition character you are always using, and see if that 1 skill point benefits the team or not. Lightcons that action advance/action delay and skill points are always worth considering. or niche light cons like Break in Abudance character (cough lingsha) would it benefit other characters cause no other lightcons give break in Abudance path.
The funny thing about Hoyo is that they don't seem to really understand why their lightcons are not selling well. cause they give OP bonus. but that bonus is easily gotten someplace else. as we have seen with Fugue Lightcon, they increased the BREAK and slapped on Damage Bonus, would be terrific for any other character then Fugue, cause Fugue Damage is bricked, they did it themselves by wanting no other Lingsha case for a while :P
@hanyuee1160You need 220% Break Effect for Fugue, 170% is not gonna cut it
Edit:
Although maybe with buffs, it could work
I thought Before the Tutorial was a good LC because you definitely NEED EHR to even proc that def down. Which would help if you didn’t roll into it much.
She doesn't need that much
EHR chest and some subs already gives you more than enough. Tutorial is an option for ult spam but the EHR thershold is easy to achive
You didn’t even mention the original character people got massive damage off of break, Sampo
I don’t think I’ll get her lightcone myself even though I’ll be using her a ton, S5 Resolution & Healing both do seem like they will be more then good enough on her
What if my relics are trash and I can't hit her thresholds. My other team is dot team so I can't give solitary healing or farmata to Fugue😢
Don't worry she is made FOOLS proof, you Effective Hit rate on her Chest. (to apply that defense debuff ) Rope is Break Effect she gives herself enough break effect from traces 60.
There is even a nihility 4 star Sunday Break Lightcon in the Herta or Battle Pass store (can't remember) so rather waste 10 bucks on that one then pull for S1 that cost maybe 80 Tickets (so atleast 100$ if top up bonus is used). you will very easily hit her 220 Break effect. with minimal luck. then you have set bonus who gives break.
Look her Lightcon is not BIS sadly... cause they bricked her traces up too much, forgetting to apply Attack Bonus stats. to make her a full fledge mid tier DPSER.
Even Solitary Healing helps her Ultimate more cause of Effective Hitrating and you break somebody she will always apply a Fire DOT on Breaking somebody. thus regaining energy.
I already know its not before watching the video or know about the LC. You go with sunday lc must pull, so the pattern is quite obvious, am i right 😅