Problem Horse | Buddy Sour
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
- Ryan helps Sarah and Addison with a buddy sour horse named Miss Duchess.
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Finally found someone who trains with the right attitude enjoyed the vid and believe it or not this trainer of 15 years has learned a new way to handle a common problem keep it up you do very well with those horses
@@coyotewildsoutdoorsadventu9632 thanks, I appreciate you.
Ryan i think you are one of the most gifted Horse Trainers i have seen. You can read and understand a horses body language incredibly. I wish you were around when i was raising my horses. I am learning alot from you. Thank you young man. Bravo
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I have a buckskin his name is dock
My hat is off to this horse trainer. He's very knowledgeable and very polite (he didn't tell the lady she doesn't know how to ride or recognize horse body language). The horse is totally disrespectful. Notice the lady's stirrups are adjusted way too long and she has no idea how to use her hands. She pulls her hand way behind her back. Unless she takes a lot of riding lessons from a good trainer, this horse will never work for her. No disrespect intended. We all had to start somewhere.
Thank you Sir! I’ve enjoyed following your videos over the years.
-Ryan
@@ryanrosehorsemanship There are many I've just added.
Love how he allows the horse to make choices and utilizes counter conditioning to get the behavior he wants. Super awesome!
Just found this gem of a video. This is EXACTLY the behavior my mare is presenting and I will admit that I lack some of the knowledge to fix it. This video will help so much. Thanks for recording the training session!
Thank you to Sara and Addison for putting your problems on display. It takes guts to do that. I am confident that you all can now go on and fix this yourself! Way to keep learning! Duchess is going to make Addison a fine horse!
I had an AQHA horse named Duchess when i was young. She was a beautiful sorrel with a white blaze. The best disposition and rode so well. Loved that horse and cried when she was sold. She was truly the best horse we ever had. She had a filly before we sold her. We named her Sabrina Bar.
My husband had a palomino called Sunny. He won western pleasure here in Australia with him. Unfortunately, he died of cancer. My husband was absolutely gutted.
The human needs A lot more training! The horse learned quicker. Haha. Good job Ryan! 👍 I have two horses that are very similar to this mare, I learned a lot watching this video from watching both horse and riders! Thank you to you and also to this family for sharing their issues and progress! Good luck to the continued success of this rider!
Dont bash people who are trying to better themselves and their horse care... especially when you have 2 horses who do the same thing!
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Agreed. The human needs to become a lot more comfortable riding with some contact. She's not going to get very far if she keeps throwing the reins away at this stage of the horse's re-training.
Love this video! I think the people need more training as well as the horse in this video!
"The herd of two, you and the horse,"love it. Subbed!
Thanks!
Thank you for this instructional video. When I saw you lift your hands up to make her uncomfortable enough to get her to lower her head, I nearly jumped out of my seat. I was hollering to my husband "See what he's doing! I don't know how many times I've done that to get a horse to lower their head and then I get jumped on for that. Being told no, I have to keep my hands down by the shoulders and half-halt or work them left to right or back them to get them to lower their heads." It was so awesome to see that and get a little bit of validation for my training methods. Thank you. And the rest was instrutional too.
That part was completely counterintuitive to me. Don't you normally want them to yield in the direction of the pressure?
You want them to yield to the direction of pressure , the pressure was when the head was up , when she yielded down he did also.
Krikit yes typically, but you can also think of it as moving away from pressure. Imagine there is a teeter totter, the horses mouth is end one, and your hands are the opposite. If your hands are down, their side goes up, if your hands go up, their head goes down. It is counterintuitive in that you're basically saying ok if you'd like to carry yourself with your head high, I will support your head high with a constant contact, which in fact is not comfortable for them, and they will seek a release. This does NOT work though for a rider with poor, inaccurate rein aids. If someone was to try this and bumps the horse up up up without the horse finding the answer, they'll just begin to fear the bit and the riders hands.
Well done lady! Keep up the good work 👍 one can only have respect for people who get lessons with a real trainer when things go a bit sour! 👍👍👍
I really like the way you work with the horses, your trainingn style, and your compassion to help the horse be all that they can be. Your videos are a great gift. Thank you.
If this lady continues with lessons she’ll grow so much and then the horse will also.
She needs to work on her cues, trying to turn with the rein on the opposite side is confusing for the horse..
You have the best quality videos on horse training even... your voice is SO clear and the video is sharp. No background noises such as wind going through the microphone, your voice doesn't get out of range.
Now, this is the FIRST video I have watched on your channel...so, I will see if the others are quality as well.
Your positive approach and encouraging words set you apart. Love your channel. Ill never even get to ride a horse, but watching training is awesome.
Ryan, thanks for putting emphasis on the key moments and actions. This was excellent viewing.
Thank you
Great video! Watched it 3 times. Thank you for posting. I’ve tried it already with my herd bound Arabian mare and got success the first time getting her to leave property.
Thanks 👍
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I’m having an issue where the horse still keeps going back in a panic no matter how hard I work him near his friend
That was a great work program. the ONLY thing not only here but other great trainers. The horse is so upset with bugs and flies that takes away the whole will to keep there mind on you. You can see it stomping hooves and shaking head all the time. Please forgive me for saying this but sombody pointed this out to me and I started applying spray before training and it is a game changer. Thanks
A horse will also stomp feet, shake head, switch tail, etc as body language un related to flying pests.
There might have been bugs but the head toss and stamping is an irritated mannerism. She may have just been fussy.
Just found your channel. When you said about all horse want to be in a herd. Paraphrasing here. I am blessed with one that really doesn't seem to care about other horses around her. Kind of nice.
Definitely, I think how horses are separated from the mare when they’re young plays a huge role in this.
@@ryanrosehorsemanship I would say so. Would help with confidence and being overly clingy . Having had horses that would be dangerous at times if they got separated it is an absolute pleasure having this one.
Excellent job of making the wrong thing hard and the right thing easy. You have a good understanding of horse behavior.
This was super useful to me. I am riding a 3 yr old GH filly that I started myself. She is well started and is very calm and super great on all her ground work. I have started quite a few but am much more hesitant with this one since I was bucked off another mare and broke my back 3 years ago. I have always used similar tactics with any barn sour horse (some of which I had for training for this reason, but that was quite a few years ago). My filly is just putting the brakes on when I am taking her out on her own. She will go willingly for quite a distance, and doesn't show any real sourness per se - just gets so far and stops. No matter what I do she will not go forward, but she will go back. I think that this set of actions with the raising of the head and the turning while keeping the energy low will help me to get her tracking away. I will try it next time I take her on the trails on my property and see if it helps get her heading in the away direction. I just needed a reminder that it is sometimes really basic training that makes things work.
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Nicely done. Getting to see the changes in the horse ... really nice. Looking forward to seeing more of these videos.
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Wow! Nice work Ryan! Very clever how you applied pressure when around the other horse. She seemed to learn very quickly she’d rather not be around other horse if more work applied 🌟
We also have a buckskin AQHA. He’s a handful, we need Ryan! 😉💯🙏
This was great! Happy to see you training the humans too.
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Again, super helpful tutorial Ryan🐎
Thanks
Ryan this was a great session to watch, so glad I found you here and look forward to more. Your timing and quick assessment of this mare was spot on and what she needed as far as leadership and directions she can process. I do hope Sarah the rider/owner does continue to get training and takes riding lessons regularly. There was so much going on in the video from her end that I am guessing will be beneficial for her to see and am glad you two were able to connect, a wonderful opportunity. The handling of the horse on the ground while you were working with Dutchess really showed a lot of small behaviours-rubbing on her, pushing her away, nose bumping her , ignoring her request to step back that will become larger challenges later. I do hope she and Addison attends a clinic or camp of yours for horsemanship skills so there are no accidents happening that could be prevented. Dutchess, is a smart and quick horse that would also benefit from consistent education with knowledgeable training. Having such lovely horses, they should be invested in for the health and safety of all.
Thank you so much this opened my eyes so much not just only to the buddy sour issue but just to how horses think in general this has helped me so much
Cowboys rock! And they ALWAYS have the best behaved horses.
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That horse was taking full advantage of that lady 🤨 She needs more lessons with you.🥰
I disagree
@@dariaharruff7025 and I do agree. Look how scared she acts around her own horse. Putting another horse between them. Trust me her horse sees who is the boss. No wonder the behavior.
One of your best videos 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. Very well explained, illustrative, and easy to read that horse because she is so animated, and then when she makes a change it is easy to see. Thank you 😊
Excellent in every way. You are a great teacher/trainer. I will surely check out more of your vids. This is the 1st I've seen. I like the way you do things. This was great, Thanks!
Excellent work and explanation of what you are doing.
😀 thanks
I had a couple of horses who were buddy sour. One just needed a couple of rides alone and she got past it, though they were tense rides to start out on. The other never got totally over it, but we found as long he had something to focus on, he was alright. Just changing gaits constantly, off the side of the trail so he was busy stepping over logs and around boulders all the time, zig zagging the trail...he was too busy with these random human games to keep looking for another horse. 😌
Great advice for horses who do not move out of the way and respect the
I have the same issue with my horse . This video has great strategies to help us . Thanks Ryan .
wow Ryan you're awesome! I don't have the privilege of owning one but ive learned so much thank you!🐾🐴🐎💕
Today, I learnt something very new in my life about horses, their attitudes and the improvement after their training.
Horse was never the problem!
Gentle technique,create pressure and release; great video showing that repetition and working with the horse,then offering the alternative too human pressure weekend weekout, is a fun,stable scenario. Aroha, love yer horses.
Awesome training as usual.. your videos are ver well self explanatory.. thank you again
Great videos amazing how the horse’s respond to Ryan❤
Nice simple skills every horse person can use. Thank you!
This is an excellent demonstration - creating comfort for her when she is away from her buddy.
That was really helpful and I’ll definitely put that knowledge to good use. I love the passive but firm approach where you make the right action easier for the horse to do. Thank you very much for posting such great and informative videos :o)
This is a similar situation we are dealing with! Will be using these techniques to see if this helps.
I used to have a mare that was barn sour. She was easy to ride without other horses, but when we tried to ride out from the barn she would try to back up or turn and go back to the field. Eventually, to combat this, we'd turn her so that she could see the field and start backing her up. She backed up readily, until she realized she was not going towards the barn. Once she realized she wasn't getting her way, we'd turn her around and go on our rides with no issue.
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Beautiful Horse Man & Good Job 🔥👌💪💯🇺🇸
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just stumbled upon you. im not a horseman. we were just told to hang on. kick means go and pulling back means stop. gonna check out your videos.
This was very helpful and well demonstrated! Thank you!
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I was taught this with a barn sour horse it works I didn't have anymore issues with my mare after we tried this technic.
Great training ❤
Ryan it always seems there's a little fault both on rider and horse. You dealing with a little of both in your technique is neat to watch
Thank you for sharing your knowledge! Definitely trying this on my horses.
Beautiful property!
She's a beautiful horse.❤
Nicely done Ryan.
ryan, this was amazing!
I think I need Ryan here for my 16 yr old TB buddy sour king of the herd gelding!
Great video! Awesome people and beautiful horse!
Your a good Teacher , good video .......leadership with respect equals positive energy !
Great video, I have the opposite problem I can ride out with no issues. It's the ones left behind that lose their minds. No one back at the corral to mind them and I am worried they will go through the fence and end up hurting themselves to get to the one leaving. No barn to put them in so it can be dangerous.
I am having the same issue with my two. If I try to work with the “lower” horse, the other one goes nuts. I wonder if he can cover that topic.
Keep the videos coming. Really good stuff.
This video is from a little ago, but I like the way you work. I have a 1 year old AQHA that I will start with groundwork he is a little pushing horse so iam training him now to stay out of my space😁 I have subscribed so you have a new follower 😉
Other question. Can I work on this inside his paddock, or should I keep that place for him and his safe place😊 and train him oudside his paddock
Thank you! Very good explanation
So I’ve tried that technique about working a horse where they want to go and then the relief is when they leave. Like when my horse wants to go back out the gate to go to the barn. I did that for like 30 minutes and worked his ass hard by the gate and he never cared. It never made a difference lol he was totally happy to work by the gate and gave me the bird for trying to take him elsewhere even if that meant the pressure was off.
Wonderful video. Thanks, so much!
you gotta start micing these folks up
Awesome job with the horse an the family
She's really a cute little horse and nice little size.
This chick doesn't even know how to ride ( I'm not here to win any popularity contest thank you)! She needs to go way back to the very beginning and get some Basics on how to ride a horse. These poor horses... good Lawrrrd! And how the heck Ryan can have the kind of patience that you must have to have with clients, it's beyond me! That's obviously a cute little horse and if brought up properly with a good Rider could be a lot of fun.
On another note - absolutely beautiful countryside and it looks like a great place to have a farm. Greetings from Key West, Florida.🌴
Very helpful Ryan. Thank you
Great work .
I will try this with my horse. She doesn’t buck like that but she does get buddy sour. Thanks so very much
Thank you Ryan for this video i really enjoyed it.
You bet 👍
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Lovely work by the trainer. Pretty hard to teach people confidence and leadership though. Best of luck to the great owners.
Your awesome dude I learned a lil from this video. Thanks bud
I ca really understand your videos my mares are very buddy sour ! Thank you
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good stuff man....making the wrong thing work, and the right thing easy ....OnWard....
Thanks Skipper!
Thank you for this video. That’s what I need to do.
Loving the 12 bar blues background music!
Such an amazing video
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Buck skin is my favorite coat on a horse. I'll never own a horse but if I ever did in this life time it would be a buck skin
Same but I got it
I have a mustang that is buckskin and I have minis that I breed for buckskin color
Yes buckskin and black are my favorite
@@millystar1628 same!
I have a couple of red horses. Try to brush off their shedding winter fur leaves me looking like a sasquatch lol
It seems like there's a lot to the timing of your cues. A lot like training dogs... which is interesting as horses are prey animals, and dogs are predators by nature. I don't have horses, I love them and respect them; I find your videos fascinating as well as entertaining. I'm learning so much. Thank you for these videos, and thanks to the owners/handlers for the videos as well; it can't be easy being filmed while absorbing all this information.
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My horse is a lead mare type and she’s extremely buddy sour because she has her “herd” to take care of in her mind. She doesn’t lack confidence. She’s a really quick study. She needs challenges but just not this one! The only time I’ve come off her was her blowing up about “her” horse being taken out of the arena! I couldn’t stand back up and was in bed on my back except the excruciating detail of getting in wheelchair to poop and empty bed pan and back. People brought me sustenance and pain pills and feed horses. Fractured pelvis. I’d be wary letting my kid ride any type herd bound horse. It’s bad and guess what I am a loner and my ideal horse would be one who went out alone all the time! It was a lesson and I still have her now for 18 years. She ( Tennessee Walker) has her horse too ( Quarter horse). This is John Lyons stuff. Good stuff.
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Great video, thank you!
Excellent demonstration of changing the game by lifting the reins. I would like to know what you did when the other horses walked away, that's a huge issue for us, keeping his attention on me.
If the horse views you as the fair and trusted leader, it won't matter what the other horses do.
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Sure is easy to recognize a person that wasn't ridding before they walked. Must take a lot of guts to learn to ride as a adult. Good they got sense enough to call in a teacher.
Thank you for sharing. 🤗
Nice work
Gonna try this with my saddlebred. He is acting exactly like her.
Kijk sommige mensen snappen niet dat een paard ook fouten kan maken en niet altijd hoeft te luisteren naar. Het baasje!
Hey man love you're channel keep up the good work!
Thank you!
Nice work.
Love your work.
For me it is not so much what or how you do it....it is mote about how you explain it!
That is teaching an old dog new tricks!
I must have been becoming a grumpy old man
Thanks!
Great work
Very impressive.
good work
I like your style.
I need to try this. During a longer work break because of a physical health issue of mine, my 18 year old has become buddy sour during his "vacation" (just stopping and neighing when I lead him away from the others. No rearing, bucking or fussing) and to make matters more difficult the herd leader is buddy sour too. Herd leader will also cry for any horse that leaves the herd to go to work with its owner and you can hear it from a mile away... That's not good. I need to regain my horse's respect and trust ASAP and try what you did here with this buddy sour mare... hope it works.
This is great. I'm having a hard time with my horse tossing his head in a halter and a bridle. He also like to nibble constantly.
Watching this video of your first distance in testing her release & gets big--you are remaining calm, rhythmic movement of the flag--where do your eyes go? what are you looking at with your release efforts. Thank you love your instructions & YOU Tube visuals.
he’s looking to see her soften as a whole. starts with her not being heavy on the lead rope but also continues to not having as jerky of movements with her hind end and having the bend in her ribs. it’s about the body as a whole being soft while he’s asking for movement. rather than taking away the pressure because she moved around him in a circle he waits for her to move around him calmly. you want to have their eyes and ears paying attention and them not running through or away from the pressure before you give the release
at 13:02 you can see that she understands when she feels comfortable slowing to a walk then proceeds to give the nice trot. she’s not yanking on the lead rope and has her shoulders towards him and her hind end away. she’s bending inward rather than trying to give him her butt. at 13:31 she realized the flag wasn’t there to chase her and wasn’t a good reason to act out. when she turned to face the flag she showed the realization that the flag wasn’t what she should base her energy off of but rather that she should base her energy off of people