You're spot-on with the microphone Jack. A lot of people have been saying that it's an oversight which is ridiculous. Of course the R & D team and the product manager thought about a mic input and it was a conscious effort not to put it in there for exactly the reason you hypothesized.... cannibalizing their higher end products.
The display of mkVI has apparent lower reflection than your mkV. Do you put any kind of protection films on your mkV or it is really a improvement in mkVI?
Always great work. I am wondering where they will go with the rx10 If I was shopping for a point and shoot the size factor difference between the rx100 just to give you 200-600 range is not worth it now. Any chance Sony will increase the sensor size of the rx10 line for better low light performance?
I keep hearing that the Mark 6 is a better video camera while glossing over the biggest problem - the removal of the ND filter, and minimising the implications of the slower aperture. The ND is essential for video to force the iris open. The slower aperture is very restrictive because at this size sensor image softening sets in due to diffraction between f5.6 and f8. An f1.8-2.8 lens has maybe 3 stops of iris with sharp images, while the newer lens has only 1 or 2 stops to play with and no ND filter to help keep in the sharp range. I see the Mark 6 as being great for the moms and dads who like the extra focal reach to get their kids playing sports, but anyone serious about their video is going to need the Mark 5. There is no shortage of serious videographers who buy these Sony compacts - it is to get the super slo-mo in an affordable package and to have reasonable 4K capability that fits in a pocket. Vloggers love the camera because of the level of capability in a package light enough to be held at arm’s length without any problems. The light weight and comparatively low price (by pro standards) means the camera can be put on a boom pole and put into locations for some effective creative footage that is not so easy to get with conventional equipment. Because it is mostly used for special effects including slo-mo the 5 minute limit is mostly not an issue and vlogging is generally best done in short takes. If Sony had been able to extend the lens zoom to 105mm but kept the f2.8 max aperture and ND filter they would have had a winner, but by going too long, too slow, and getting rid of the ND they hobbled the camera for anyone other than amateurs. The Mark 5 remains the best of the RX100 series. Especially for video.
Thank you for post your thoughts. I'm not sure to buy the rx100m5, the rx100m6 ( m7 is a lot more expensive ), or the canon g5xm2. I want it for travel and for when I don't want to take the reflex camera. And with all the info you put here I decide to buy the rx100m5a.
The Mark 6 has a different lever for zoom. The Mark 6, you can see the bottom of the screen when the screen is flipped forward. On the 5, you cannot see the information. The Mark 6 goes to 4.5f almost immediately when zooming.
I have the M5 and love it! As stated in comments below...the bokeh is outstanding and it does very well in low light. I also have an HX80 which has a 30X optical zoom which really gets close but is a much slower lens..if I need that kind of zoom I usually use my Canon video camera or the Sony HX80... For still photography and portraits you can't beat the M5! Just an outstanding compact camera!
One thing I noticed is that the screen bezels are different between the two so not sure if the PCK-LM15 screen protector is compatible on the VI without cutting off the right side of the screen. The bezel on the V is thinner on the left side and on the VI it’s the opposite. Any thoughts?
can we put only the RX 100 VI lens part to the RX 100 V body.. if we could do this then we could achieve something great camera. since the both RX 100 V and VI bodies are exactly same in size, looks and likely to be exchanged the parts of their bodies in one to another. if this is possible then we can get both camera in second hand then make legendary camera out of these two bodies in one.. :D
Panasonic's 1" sensor cameras can take a 4k picture from video. Something sony can't. I own the mark 5 n love it. But I think Panasonic got sony beat. They both crop,sony crops a little less. No 4k 5 minute cap. Twice as cheaper (literally) eye afc on any if the Panasonic cameras is just as good as sonys even with my mark 5 super fast afc. Awsome channel bro been here since 10k subs
The mark V is quite a bit better in low light (see iPhone do review) , has nicer Bokeh and better in bright light. I couldn't recommend the 6 unless you really need a touch screen or telephoto.
I have the Mark V and very happy with it. I do like the built in hand grip and increased zoom advantage of the VI. But I'll take the better glass on the Mark V. On a side note, since we are talking about cameras, I would like to mention that my new Google Pixel 3 cell phone gives me photos that I feel are on par with my Mark V under some conditions especially in dark lighting where the Pixel 3 Night Sight feature is very impressive.
I was curious about the audio quality of the V and VI so I went to the Sony store just yesterday. The sound quality of VI is way cleaner with less noise than the V. I got the product consultant to hear it and he agrees with another point that both of us can hear the sound of the lens zoom on the V. So I'll take this and say that the VI will make a much better vlogging or 4k video camera.
Thank you for your insightful video. I still believe the Sony RX100m5A is the best pocketable video camera to date due to its built in ND filter and faster aperture... can't wait to receive mine to check out the improved eye AF from the m5!
as a heavy video user - the lens on the mk5 with its ND and much higher aperture significantly wins over the much longer lens on the VI (anything beyond 70mm isn't so useful on a point-and-shoot body - i'm not sure why you think telephoto in this package is a strong video feature). I agree that the log modes ARE really valuable for video as you say - but less so for vloggers. Also 5-mins video is a pain for video use since this is likely a B-roll cam which you want to set-and-forget. You say that 5mins is fine because you'll be editing - within an 18min long single shot video :). In conclusion - the VI is a better photo cam, and the V is a better video cam
I'm a travel vlogger and love my RX 100 5 for everything and just wished it had a microphone jack. What I was expecting from the from the Mark 6 was for its pricepoint: 1) Microphone Jack. (Obviously) 2) 4k - 60 FPS. (Come on my One Plus 6 phone gives me that) 3) An aperture of F1.8-4.5. (Since the lens is still a 24mm at its widest) That would have made it the perfect camera in my eyes :). Lovely comparison as always. Keep them coming. A huge fan of your stuff.
I would love the 6 but the 5 is probably much much better at night! What do you think?
You're spot-on with the microphone Jack. A lot of people have been saying that it's an oversight which is ridiculous. Of course the R & D team and the product manager thought about a mic input and it was a conscious effort not to put it in there for exactly the reason you hypothesized.... cannibalizing their higher end products.
Great review/comparison. If I was to buy one today I would go for the RX100V because in Sunny South FL the built-in ND filter is really a plus.
The display of mkVI has apparent lower reflection than your mkV. Do you put any kind of protection films on your mkV or it is really a improvement in mkVI?
Excellent comparison video! Very reasoned and helpful!
Bottom line: Better glass is always better photos; Bring on the V!
So you can shoot 120 FPS in non hdr video?’slo Mo???
Always great work. I am wondering where they will go with the rx10 If I was shopping for a point and shoot the size factor difference between the rx100 just to give you 200-600 range is not worth it now. Any chance Sony will increase the sensor size of the rx10 line for better low light performance?
Thank you for the comparison. However, how about the RX100m5a vs RX100m6? Thank you
Im a noob but if either of tis were used to take picture of milky way, which one is better?
I keep hearing that the Mark 6 is a better video camera while glossing over the biggest problem - the removal of the ND filter, and minimising the implications of the slower aperture. The ND is essential for video to force the iris open. The slower aperture is very restrictive because at this size sensor image softening sets in due to diffraction between f5.6 and f8. An f1.8-2.8 lens has maybe 3 stops of iris with sharp images, while the newer lens has only 1 or 2 stops to play with and no ND filter to help keep in the sharp range.
I see the Mark 6 as being great for the moms and dads who like the extra focal reach to get their kids playing sports, but anyone serious about their video is going to need the Mark 5. There is no shortage of serious videographers who buy these Sony compacts - it is to get the super slo-mo in an affordable package and to have reasonable 4K capability that fits in a pocket. Vloggers love the camera because of the level of capability in a package light enough to be held at arm’s length without any problems. The light weight and comparatively low price (by pro standards) means the camera can be put on a boom pole and put into locations for some effective creative footage that is not so easy to get with conventional equipment. Because it is mostly used for special effects including slo-mo the 5 minute limit is mostly not an issue and vlogging is generally best done in short takes.
If Sony had been able to extend the lens zoom to 105mm but kept the f2.8 max aperture and ND filter they would have had a winner, but by going too long, too slow, and getting rid of the ND they hobbled the camera for anyone other than amateurs. The Mark 5 remains the best of the RX100 series. Especially for video.
Thank you for post your thoughts. I'm not sure to buy the rx100m5, the rx100m6 ( m7 is a lot more expensive ), or the canon g5xm2. I want it for travel and for when I don't want to take the reflex camera. And with all the info you put here I decide to buy the rx100m5a.
if both camera same price ,which one better ...!?
By the way, how soon do you plan to review the upcoming HX99?
The Mark 6 has a different lever for zoom. The Mark 6, you can see the bottom of the screen when the screen is flipped forward. On the 5, you cannot see the information. The Mark 6 goes to 4.5f almost immediately when zooming.
I have the M5 and love it! As stated in comments below...the bokeh is outstanding and it does very well in low light. I also have an HX80 which has a 30X optical zoom which really gets close but is a much slower lens..if I need that kind of zoom I usually use my Canon video camera or the Sony HX80...
For still photography and portraits you can't beat the M5! Just an outstanding compact camera!
"And those of you who are addicted to taking pictures of your self" Love the way you said it.
One thing I noticed is that the screen bezels are different between the two so not sure if the PCK-LM15 screen protector is compatible on the VI without cutting off the right side of the screen. The bezel on the V is thinner on the left side and on the VI it’s the opposite. Any thoughts?
It may be the same size an fitment but not sure if people have noticed it me myself am curious
can we put only the RX 100 VI lens part to the RX 100 V body.. if we could do this then we could achieve something great camera. since the both RX 100 V and VI bodies are exactly same in size, looks and likely to be exchanged the parts of their bodies in one to another. if this is possible then we can get both camera in second hand then make legendary camera out of these two bodies in one.. :D
Hi,can you explain please why not the Sony RX1006" not trying to give you a professional piece of gear"?Thank you
My 5 will be going up for sale shortly.... going with the Q2..
I just got the mark VI camera and I only have 25, 50 and 100 fps available. How can I get 30, 60 and 120 fps?? Thanks!
Change to NTSC instead of PAL.
I bought the RX100 V days before the RX100 VI. Still happy and would like to have the extra zoom but you can't really go wrong with either camera.
Which is better in low light?
@@fiziwee386 The Mark V is much better for low light!
Panasonic's 1" sensor cameras can take a 4k picture from video. Something sony can't. I own the mark 5 n love it. But I think Panasonic got sony beat. They both crop,sony crops a little less. No 4k 5 minute cap. Twice as cheaper (literally) eye afc on any if the Panasonic cameras is just as good as sonys even with my mark 5 super fast afc. Awsome channel bro been here since 10k subs
What about autofocus in Panasonic?
Very good report so down to earth about the differences ads a lot of food to my thoughts thanks heaps and stay safe
The mark V is quite a bit better in low light (see iPhone do review) , has nicer Bokeh and better in bright light. I couldn't recommend the 6 unless you really need a touch screen or telephoto.
What makes the rx100 v better at night?
@@fiziwee386 larger aperture at f1.8.
I have the Mark V and very happy with it. I do like the built in hand grip and increased zoom advantage of the VI. But I'll take the better glass on the Mark V. On a side note, since we are talking about cameras, I would like to mention that my new Google Pixel 3 cell phone gives me photos that I feel are on par with my Mark V under some conditions especially in dark lighting where the Pixel 3 Night Sight feature is very impressive.
What about the video?
I was curious about the audio quality of the V and VI so I went to the Sony store just yesterday. The sound quality of VI is way cleaner with less noise than the V. I got the product consultant to hear it and he agrees with another point that both of us can hear the sound of the lens zoom on the V. So I'll take this and say that the VI will make a much better vlogging or 4k video camera.
You can go th HD instead of 4 K?
I watched all the video with sound OFF. Great hand skills btw
i see it for sale on Park ave photo for 779 mark v and 979 for mark vi...as of 4/8/19
5 Is Still the best!
Got Mark v for 700 on eBay mint condition with 3 batteries. Good deal?
I think so.
@@TheDigitalDigest Same here... good deal.
Mark V for me, thank you
Thank you for your insightful video. I still believe the Sony RX100m5A is the best pocketable video camera to date due to its built in ND filter and faster aperture... can't wait to receive mine to check out the improved eye AF from the m5!
What is the ND filter for?
as a heavy video user - the lens on the mk5 with its ND and much higher aperture significantly wins over the much longer lens on the VI (anything beyond 70mm isn't so useful on a point-and-shoot body - i'm not sure why you think telephoto in this package is a strong video feature). I agree that the log modes ARE really valuable for video as you say - but less so for vloggers. Also 5-mins video is a pain for video use since this is likely a B-roll cam which you want to set-and-forget. You say that 5mins is fine because you'll be editing - within an 18min long single shot video :). In conclusion - the VI is a better photo cam, and the V is a better video cam
Still - thanks for posting your thoughts up! Valuable to hear. Also I'm sure there are video cases where you want that long lens (e.g. travel)
Kindly compare GoPro Hero7 to Sony RX100 VI.
Night and Day.
Both charges via USB?
Yes
Fact:Panasonic zs100 was the first, if not the second P&S to have a 1 inch sensor and a 35mm equiv. 25-250mm f2.8-5.9😜
The Mark VI screen can tilt down 90 degrees. The Mark V can only tilt down 45 degrees.
Will either overheat on 1080p?
not at all
F 1.8 all the way. The V it is.
VA
I'm a travel vlogger and love my RX 100 5 for everything and just wished it had a microphone jack. What I was expecting from the from the Mark 6 was for its pricepoint:
1) Microphone Jack. (Obviously)
2) 4k - 60 FPS. (Come on my One Plus 6 phone gives me that)
3) An aperture of F1.8-4.5. (Since the lens is still a 24mm at its widest)
That would have made it the perfect camera in my eyes :). Lovely comparison as always. Keep them coming. A huge fan of your stuff.
V is still a badass
Is it better at night?
@@fiziwee386 Yes because the lens is "faster", has larger aperture. 1.8-2.8 vs 2.8-4.5
@@nxtiak is there any video proof? i read that it all my just be theoretical
@@fiziwee386 1.8-2.8 aperture means the opening for the lens is larger than 2.8-4.5, so more light goes in. That's just basic photography spec.
@@nxtiak i understand. Is it possible you can do some low light video comparisons? I'm still saving up money to buy one of these. Please
I feel those preferring the M5 edition are the owners of this model 😉