Fender Deluxe Reverb Re-Issue | Common Issues & Service
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- In this video I replace the filter capacitors (with F&T's), talk about some common issues with these amps, and show you how to prevent those issues :)
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Colleen is one of my favourite tube amp repairers (along with the Great Uncle Doug)
Cheers from Australia.
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It's HAS been awhile since we got an OG repair video. Nice!
Thanks Colleen
My electronics knowledge is a full 0%. But I just LOVE watching amp repair videos! I wish I had gotten into electronics when I was younger!
I really like people who are knowledgeable about tubes. A successful repair.
I have that exact same old Kester solder. I did demolition on a house a few summers ago that was abandoned since the 70s and found it there. It works great!
Thanks for doing a Fender re-issue amp. I hesitate to work on them because of the flimsy PCBs but watching you helps me be more comfortable
One trick I use when discharging the caps like you have shown is I connect the multimeter across a cap and watch the voltage drop, and just to be sure I check there is no residual voltage remaining about 10 seconds later. But good tutoring:)
Thanks for the video. Great summer to you Miss Fazio!
Just in time! I got a DDRI limited edition for Father’s Day and was getting ready to go through it to do all the things 👍🏽 thank you
Like always, it is most definitely an absolute pleasure watching you work. Please keep the great and informative videos coming, Colleen...
Great, informative vid Colleen! Thx as always for sharing your expertise.
Really cool and informative !!!! Thanks for this !!!
Nice work on that Fender! To think how flimsy the modern ones are compared to the '60s stuff...
Leaded solder FTW - I've always used Cynel 60/40, now going into Broquetas 63/37. As Paul Carlson would say, nice and shiny - like a mirror!
Great walk thru for the upgrades, and that's a cool little jam at the end :)
Another great video! I really enjoy your videos and always learn new things.
It’s interesting to see some of the differences between the original wiring paths and the reissue. It makes sense they use a fully board-based approach in the reissue, but clearly they lost some robustness and ease of maintenance by doing that.
Thanks Colleen!
Thanks for opening up a reissue!
Great video as always. One more Fender ready for the road.🎸💜
That jumper is a winner!!
Great step through video, as always
Yay ❤ all vids but have been thinking of fender reissues. Thank you thank you thank you. 👍
Old Solder. That's a perfect touch of whimsy for tube amps. Tube amps are my home and gig gear. Yes... Fender. Princeton and a De Ville 210. And the pragmatic relocation of the screen resistors, the upgrade caps? If I weren't in the midwest my gear would be on your waiting list! Thanks!
Really great video very informative
I think the cardboard around the jacks is a safety compliance thing to stop anyone from pushing a screwdriver into the jack and touch any high voltage points inside the chassis. IC caps are absolutely lousy, I always use F&T psu caps, tube amp doctor seem to be pretty good aa well.
Love to see you dealing with HRD
That’s not what this is.
Sei eccezionale, c'è da imparare sempre❤
Great video, thank you!
Great video.
Wow ! That is a very quiet fender amp !
Nice work 👍
Very nice !
Excellent ☮️
I still have my old school solder kester from the seventies as well
Great video kid. I watched and listened attentively and learned a couple of new things. Who says ya can't teach an old dog a new trick! I liked that idea of moving the screen resistors onto the tube sockets.
Ya know, I have cleaned up a few of these r.i. amps, particularly the Twin Reverbs by dressing up the wiring harness. I dislike the plug in ribbon cables. These are especially a troublesome part on BluesJR.
I like the idea of moving those filament gnd balance resistors too!
I have often heard that it not good idea to use standard home based hardware store types of rtv silicone adhesives in amplifiers due to the outgassing of acetic acid. It supposedly will continue to forever gas inside of a confined hot amplifier and will cause corrosion. I am unsure how huge an issue this really is,, alit probably depends on each h brands chemistry. The one to use is an Owen's Corning Formulation like the kind used for fish aquariums. I often will just use high temp hot melt glue. I always liked how SLM/Crate actually include a notation in their service layout illustrations included with schematics and call it out as "goop". Showing a balloon type line drawing around the components where the goop is present. Lol! Yeah these Fender Reissues, ya gotta love em or hate them. I hate the way that they detract attention and often obscure the value of true vintage amps.
Thanks for video.
BtW.... so what was the final deal with that output xfmr issue with that Marshall?
Always cool thanks for the videos. Kester makers whiskey too. I feel like it had to be said. Cheers.
Good job 👍
I loves me some Fazio
Pretty cool, very handy and smart girl!
great vid, rad amp, even radder outfit!
Love Fender DR. In my opinion one of the best amps Fender ever made. The reissue has a heater and a cheap caps problem. The whole PCB thing is rather a weak point in so many ways. I'm having mine re-hand wired right now. PCB out, quality components in traditional Fender cardboard hand wired fashion in, along with a speaker swap for an Eminence GA-SC64 Speaker. However, the circuit was slightly modified. No Vibrato anymore, i didn't use it and i have a Deja Vibe anyway, if i ever want to use one. Instead, the two pots are now designated a mid pot and a Master Volume pot. The 1st Channel will be a Trainwreck kind of circuit leaning more into Marshall territory and the second one is basically a 22W Princeton Reverb now. In addition the whole thing will be cathode biased, opening a myriad of tube options. I've heard one the guru made for another guy and was instantly convinced to have mine done the same way because it just sounds badass! Btw. the guys name is Udo Pipper and he is a Guitar and Amp tech with 40+years of experience, with a degree in music science and a long career as musical journalist interviewing and personally knowing a lot of Rock 'n Roll people. Kinda a legend in Germany. He has a small shop here in Germany and modifies amps and builds own boutique amps as well. On top he is just as much a nerd as i am and a nice dude i could listen to all day.
Sprague, Nichicon, CDE....also all good replacement caps.
Nice work as usual ! I wonder if the paper shield is to physically prevent against accidental internal shorting if a jack was abused and broke / came apart and a chunk got loose ? Btw love your “Betty Boop holding an Amp” tat , Colleen !
Love it!
The cardboard is called fish paper is probably treated with something to make it fireproof. I think its use was as an insulator to shield either heat or RF from other stages.
RF shields have to be conductive, so it can't be that. It's probably meant for safety, but I'd rather have a solid plastic barrier than some flimsy cardboard…
Fascinating stuff, I could watch this for hours.
But most of it sounds like Chinese to me.
Thank God there are smart people like her to fix up our broken amps.
beautiful
Looks like your time between videos has been spent getting more tats! I have the DRRI too. Great, great amp.
Great work! Unfortunately, it's even hotter here.
Also, I understand that in the DDRI the 220ųF is not necessary as it was added likely as a safety incase a diode recto would be installed in place of the tube, but otherwise it’s unnecessary and another potential point of failure. A as long as a tube retco is being used that 220 and it’s bleeder can be removed and the traces jumpered
First time seeing your channel. Your knowledge attitude and amp work is top notch. Forgive me but a young woman who can service amps apart from being a musician is a powerful combination of attributes. Keep up the great work! Accept my sub in appreciation of your work and sharing.
Nice ❤ and more please
good stuff
thanks for sharing 🎸🎵🎸🇬🇧 Liverpool UK
Hi Colleen, I love your videos and wish you made them more often.
I have a question for you that I can’t seem to get a great answer to.
Do you know of a way to determine how many watts my Fender Customer Deluxe Reverb consumes at idle, nothing plugged in, not on standby, all volumes at 1.
Nobody, that I can find, knows how to answer this question.
Please keep us updated often as to what’s going on in your shop.
Peace✌🏼
I have several reverb tanks that were spares for car radios. Do you think they might be useful as replacements in amps?
Also jumping a cap while the unit is running can heal a defective cap. Had that happen. Nice to see you using a "Scare Stick". I made one from a broken drum stick. Saved me several times on microwave ovens and vinyl RF welders. The glue used to secure caps and some transistors in radios and TV sets has a habit of turning conductive. I always use clear 'Aquarium grade" silicone seal. The other types can have a chemical in them that can cause damage to the board and component leads.
On circuit boards with really thin, fragile foil traces like these have, I prefer to cut the excess component lead off *before* I solder them. Cutting them after soldering tends to put more stress on the foil pads.
I have the lame reissue, was shocked when I took it apart and saw ribbon connectors and pcb....
I feel like the diagonal cutter grip at 5:57 must be some advanced ninja magic that I haven't earned the right to learn yet
Great vid! Do you ever watch Psionic Audio? He has some cool breakdowns of Fender Deluxe issues
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What is the best DR RI to buy? Year?
Have you ever serviced a prosonic combo
I have a Princeton reverb reissue and I’m assuming relocating the resistors would be the same process.
great tech, and beautiful, beats watching old dudes doing the repairs lol
Colleen, does it make any sense to add in the brass pounder the pots.? Or are those grounds isolated from the high voltage grounds?
I noticed Terry on D-Lab adds a brass plate behind the front control pots and jacks like the older Fender amps used to have. Is this worth adding for the sake of grounding or noise reduction?
Nope, the excess noise is a product of proximal traces and long distances between components needed just to make the circuit work on PCBs.
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Hi Colleen, can you please add the name / brand of the caps in the description? You mentioned them, however, it was a bit unclear😉
I have a DRRI from 2008 - a great amp
"F&T" capacitors. MOD filter caps are also good, and have a higher temperature rating.
The best upgrade you can make to this amp is to fit a Jensen C12Q.
Do you or anyone else you may know on west coast modify Deluxe Reverb reissues into handwired vintage circuit, maybe with MojoTone kit?
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Hey Colleen, harbor freight solder suckers huh?
I get those by the dozen. Love em
Are they sealed so you can't clean them out and use them more than once?
You can clean em out! They’re good in a pinch as my usual solder sucker finally broke on me 💔
@@FazioElectric , I have several "Solda-Pult" (aka "Big Blue") and other smaller all-metal solder suckers but was thinking of doing a review of some of Harbor Freight's soldering accessories to post on UA-cam. PS, I am now retired from full time audio-electronics repair, but I have plenty of my own amp-repair projects waiting for me to get around to them; I got spoiled by 20 years of using a vacuum operated desoldering station every day at work and would love to get one for the home. That's not a Harbor Freight item, of course, but I used a very affordable AOYUE unit for several years, with a few slight tweaks/mods, and it worked surprisingly well.
@@FazioElectric , If the HF solder suckers are anything like most other solder suckers the only thing they are likely to need besides being cleaned is perhaps a fresh O ring and some silicone grease. Replacing O-rings is kind of a pain because you have to take the unit to the hardware store with the old, worn or swollen ring and select a new O-ring that is similar but perhaps very slightly smaller or larger, and the self-service parts bins at the hardware store are always jumbled, with parts in the wrong bins, arrgh (which inflames my OCD). I ran into this while replacing O-rings in a couple of garden pump sprayers rather than throwing them out and buying new ones for 30 bucks like most people do. I've got 3 or 4 O-ring kits here but one never seems to have the exact size needed, sigh....
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I clean them out but as cheap as they are, throwing them away and using a new one when they start acting up doesn’t hurt so much lol
Great timely video! I need to replace the filter caps on a Pro Junior but can only get them in 500v, the originals are 450v. I take it that’s ok to do?
Yup that’s fine! Just means they have a higher voltage rating :)
@@FazioElectric I thought that would be the case but great to get confirmation from an expert! Thankyou! Ps..Love the channel.
How much does this service cost including the parts?
I'm not sure Illinois Capacitor (the original, bad caps in this amp) even make their own stuff anymore? The PCB in here appears to be dated the 49th week of 2010, and the capacitors aren't too close to the tubes…
Personally I've always trusted the Japanese electrolytics most (barring a few bad series, notably Nippon Chemi-Con KZG and KZJ as used on PC mainboards of the 2000s, and early surface-mount electrolytics which were poorly sealed regardless of make), but they don't make axial types anymore so I'll keep F&T in mind for those.
Also were the power caps under a dog house or has Fender cheaped out on that?
Yup they’re under a dog house
I have a 76 Deluxe Reverb. I’m the original owner. I think the speaker may be damaged. When I plug in and turn the volume up past 4 it makes this fart type sound. I unplugged the original speaker and plugged into an external speaker cabinet with a Celestion V30 speaker and it sounded amazing. How easy is it to replace the speaker? I’ve heard you need to take the main chassis out and maybe even the reverb tank.
It probably is your speaker that needs replacing, but make sure that it's not something in the chassis breaking down (bad solder joint) when you turn the volume up. When you are playing through an extension cab, the chassis isn't being subjected to vibration like it is when you are playing through the internal speaker. I would try and plug your speaker into another amp with a speaker extension cable to see if it still does it just to make sure before spending money on a new speaker. If you do need to replace it, you should be able to get it out without taking the chassis out, you will probably need to pull the reverb tank out though. It's very straightforward, just undo the screws holding the two rear panels on and remove them, then undo the two screws holding the reverb tank bag in the floor of the cab, the whole thing will come out. You should be able to get to all the speaker bolts then.
Thank you!
I would think the cardboard is a safety feature. Blocks someone from sticking a screwdriver into the jacks and shorting it out on the board. Darwin
Perhaps the cardboard is there to prevent the tip of a plug from touching a loose wire inside the amp.
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@@TVtubeampsmore like idiot proofing
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Horrified to see part being stripped from amp and binned; simply because the purpose of the part is not apparent..
Horrified...HORRIFIED??? Do you need some smelling salts? 🤣
It’s not a part. It’s a piece of cardboard. Probably to prevent a toddler from sticking a long metal object in there. You should probably leave yours.
@@PhoenixGuitars each to their own I guess. You’re not suggesting, for example, that it would be okay for a mechanic doing a service on your car to toss out random bits which don’t seem to have any purpose. Rear seat belts; in the bin. Rear wiper; in the bin. Cardboard door liner; in the bin Etc etc? You might trivialise the cardboard guard in a customers’s amp and think it superfluous but unless the customer has requested such an outcome you shouldn’t remove. It’s just disrespectful to the person paying the bill.
@@davitofarito I don’t know the customers instruction to Fazio Electric so may have this all wrong. I do know that if this amp was my treasure I would like the excised parts coming home in a bag with the amp rather than going in the bin.