Hybrid modular - The one must-have module: bridging Eurorack and VCV Rack, Softube (ES-8 and MOTU)

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  • @stevenjavro2038
    @stevenjavro2038 3 роки тому +4

    I have spent 2 days searching for answers to this. I only got half answers until the first minute of your video. THANK YOU. I watch a lot of your videos, you do great work.

  • @amosthehound
    @amosthehound 6 років тому +8

    I rarely comment on anything but I have to say that this is one of the best eurorack/modular tutorials I’ve seen. I have watched and read about this subject exhaustively. Good work! I look forward to more content from you!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +1

      J Mac thanks and I appreciate you taking the time to write this ;)

  • @jacobnelsen-epstein3540
    @jacobnelsen-epstein3540 3 роки тому +10

    Would love to hear your "updated" thoughts on the es-9

  • @dan_dorjay
    @dan_dorjay 6 років тому +5

    +1 for the ES-8. Bitwig studio can also send CV via the ES-8 to your modular. So that's a great way to get LFO and random CV into your modular without needing to buy a load of CV generating modules straight away.

  • @gunnarwaage4343
    @gunnarwaage4343 5 років тому +17

    Fantastic overview, I would like to point out that those who already have audio interfaces with ADAT Lightpipe, Expert Sleepers has another cv sound card ES-3 mk4 listed for 199$ on Modulargrid and it provides 8 cv outputs. Paired with ES-6 mk2 which offers 8 inputs listed for 155$.

    • @HenricWallmark
      @HenricWallmark 4 роки тому +1

      so is that a better way to connect the two? adat?

    • @gunnarwaage4343
      @gunnarwaage4343 4 роки тому +3

      @@HenricWallmark if you already have an audio interface with an ADAT connection then it is a more economic solution.

    • @HenricWallmark
      @HenricWallmark 4 роки тому +2

      @@gunnarwaage4343 cool, thank you!

  • @cryptout
    @cryptout 5 років тому +5

    This is really one of the best modules to buy first, I recently bought the ES-3 and I love it.

    • @onelittleatlas5645
      @onelittleatlas5645 3 роки тому

      I was thinking of the ES-3 to go with my Saffire Pro 26 audio interface. Can you still get audio out to the modular usinf es3 or do you need an es-8?

    • @cryptout
      @cryptout 3 роки тому

      @@onelittleatlas5645 I don't use them to get audio out. I like to use a mixing desk and RME interface for that.

  • @JohnMcGFrance
    @JohnMcGFrance 6 років тому +4

    Oh no! More expense. I thought I had my modular rig pretty much sorted but I have space and the es8 looks great. Another great video. Thank you.

  • @waltersmetak
    @waltersmetak 6 років тому +6

    Excellent video - I have an Expert Sleepers ES4 and an older Motu interface (hybrid ultralite mk3 with S/PDIF connection - for some reason, never got the ES4 to work with my old M-Audio interface) - never really got the Silent Way software and have been wondering how (and if) the module would work with the VCV Rack, a program that has literally changed my life, absolutely amazing! Your video has made the point quite clear - thanks a million for sharing it!

  • @M_A484
    @M_A484 6 років тому +16

    No waaaaay. I had literally just talked myself OUT of getting the ES-8 today, telling myself the capabilities of the MiniBrute 2S I ordered would be enough for a long while. Then you go and release this video. Well done, now I want one more than ever.
    Also worth noting, the ES-8 and MOTU integrate really nicely with the Reason DAW's CV based Rack environment, especially with two recent Rack Extension releases.

    • @GuitarsAndSynths
      @GuitarsAndSynths 6 років тому +2

      I think getting the Minibrute 2s and a few modules should keep one busy for a while.

    • @Foxandxss
      @Foxandxss 6 років тому +1

      I was looking into integrating this with Reason since it is what I use. Which two extensions you meant? Thanks.

  • @draconianrhythms
    @draconianrhythms 2 роки тому

    This might be the coolest (synth) thing I’ve ever seen in my life

  • @deejayroman
    @deejayroman 6 років тому +3

    Awesome!
    What should be mentioned.
    If you use a DC-Coupled Audio Interface to transmit CV signals you will need a special cable to avoid damaging the interface.
    A floating ring cable.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +2

      Thanks very much! and yes, thank you very much for the floating ring cable comment. I added a card talking about this at the right point in the video, as well as to the description

    • @MR-qv1cr
      @MR-qv1cr Рік тому

      But do you need a TRS to TS cable out of the audio interface? You seem to use only TS to TS (6,3 to 3,5) cable. Have you noticed any problems with the CV signal sent ? Looking to buy a DC coupled audio interface but I am a bit confused about the cables I should use. Thank you for the demo !

  • @garyhazelton3307
    @garyhazelton3307 6 років тому +2

    You are my hero, Loopop! I have spent enough on my hardware. Time to find it all some software. Thanks.

  • @isaygg.butitwasntgg.itwasb4958
    @isaygg.butitwasntgg.itwasb4958 4 роки тому

    This is so exciting. Combing this with max for live and DIY modules makes it possible to make such interesting patches without selling your car.

  • @maurourrai2550
    @maurourrai2550 5 років тому +2

    In regard to the V/Oct tracking, MOTU's VOLTA software has an awesome calibration system which also gives you the ability to integrate the software with different systems at the same time, really nice feature.

  • @joesayle2213
    @joesayle2213 6 років тому +1

    Wow so cool the rabbit hole is huge

  • @summercityzach
    @summercityzach 4 роки тому +7

    PLEASE do a review of the es-9

  • @agustin7950
    @agustin7950 6 років тому +2

    Hey man, great quality videos! Thanks for being so professional, keep it up.

  • @saoirsepup
    @saoirsepup 4 роки тому +2

    If you use an audio interface that supports DC offset you can use their outputs as CV outputs for your modular setup as well. The PreSonus Studio 24C is a cheap high quality option.

  • @yoyoyayu
    @yoyoyayu 6 років тому

    Yes going back and forward is very exciting

  • @__spina__
    @__spina__ 6 років тому

    god bless you!!!!! i didnt know Expert Sleepers Es-8, and it's really the best module to link VCV Rack to a eurorack modular, thank you very much!!!!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому

      Riccardo Guarino you’re welcome, my pleasure!

  • @modul8tr
    @modul8tr 5 років тому +3

    And I was feeling like the coolest kid in the room getting my ES-8 / ES-3 Reaktor Blocks hybrid going. It really is the coolest thing ever!
    I especially like using it as a mixing color/texture box. Very easy to send audio tracks/samples into say Verbos Amplitude and Tone Controller, XAOC Belgrad, Optomix, Morphagene, or a Retro Mechanical Labs GPI connected to many flavors of distortion/saturation boxes, some of which have CV control. Taking say a kick (or bass line) from an Ableton drum rack into a Zvex Mastotron while playing with its sub switch and tone knob = massive bass/punch/analog glow. So you also get a powerful reamp/mixing color box setup in addition to a Swiss Army knife of control voltages (you may not yet own in your hardware) to tickle your modules with. Add to that super tight sync that allows you to run your modular alongside your daw with the simplicity and ease of a VST....powerful.
    Also sending sections of your rhythm tracks to say the Dynmc input on the DYNAMIX to create new rhythms from modular sounds or samples is so easy. It’s really THE best conduit to fluidly integrate all the joys of modular with your DAW production process.

    • @dropshadow1932
      @dropshadow1932 4 роки тому

      Is the ES-8 able to accept audio line level back into your daw? Thanks.

    • @modul8tr
      @modul8tr 4 роки тому

      Norman Notes Yes I believe so. Andrew at Expert Sleepers explained to me that it’s just a D.C. coupled audio interface. You can also get inputs from the ADAT.

  • @danopticon
    @danopticon 6 років тому +1

    Brilliant, very necessary video! THANK you for posting this!!

  • @FSK1138
    @FSK1138 5 років тому +85

    they got to start making eurorackable 84 hp monitors

    • @mcshafty1
      @mcshafty1 4 роки тому +6

      Yeah! Touchscreen ones with a hardware panel of dccoupled ins and outs. I can virtually see myself patching a hardware module into a slim module to left of the screen and dragging a virtual patch cable from the side of the screen and into a vcvrack module. Woah! I wish I had the skills to do it 😂

    • @patchnovae
      @patchnovae 3 роки тому +1

      Touch monitor with Pen and surface puck support would be nice :)

  • @skelly790
    @skelly790 5 років тому +2

    Re: scopes. While checking Amazon (other retailers are available) for supplies to make some suitable cables for my AC coupled interface, I came across some really small scopes and scope kits that look like they'd fit in a rack. With a little modification, of course. Only about £20.

  • @am5790
    @am5790 6 років тому

    valuable tutorial for those of us who unable to afford complete modular hardware. Thank you

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому

      Ammanuel Tekeste yes that was the purpose, thanks for the comment

  • @killiun55
    @killiun55 6 років тому

    This is exactly what I’ve done and it works brilliantly.

  • @jesset3241
    @jesset3241 6 років тому +13

    You deserve a commission for the ES-8 I am about to purchase.

  • @jerewind
    @jerewind 3 роки тому

    Great as usual … thanks again!

  • @DjRafiV
    @DjRafiV 6 років тому

    Nice demo!! ES8 is on my list!

  • @trigmusicnz
    @trigmusicnz 2 роки тому

    you are a theremin maestro now mate

  • @Unifono2012
    @Unifono2012 6 років тому +19

    Other mentions: Reaktor Blocks, Audulus 3

  • @Digiphex
    @Digiphex 6 років тому +7

    Slipper slope is right! Easier not to start. (Too late for me but this is a warning.)

  • @GuitarsAndSynths
    @GuitarsAndSynths 6 років тому

    too cool! very useful showing how to mix the mini brute 2s with VCV rack software and computer

  • @stevenkastner5678
    @stevenkastner5678 4 місяці тому

    It's been years, but here's a quick recommendation. Arturia's X8 Out has DC coupled outputs for retail $300. ES-9 adds more I/O and extra features for $635.

  • @Unifono2012
    @Unifono2012 6 років тому

    Nice. The es8 is pretty genius

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому

      Unifono2012 thanks!

  • @arjuna207
    @arjuna207 5 років тому

    looking forward to your es-9 review

    • @loopop
      @loopop  5 років тому +1

      Thanks! I don't think I'll make one.. but I'll try to cover a bit more of it next modular video

  • @improziv
    @improziv 6 років тому

    This was a very good presentation.

  • @brianeno1639
    @brianeno1639 3 роки тому

    Great video!

  • @TheScreamingFrog916
    @TheScreamingFrog916 4 роки тому

    VCV Rack has limited functionality on my late 2014 Mac Mini., but MiRack (VCV Rack for iOS), works great on my iPad.
    The ES-8 is class compliant, so should work with my iPad.
    Would be great to use all the great iOS sequencers with my eurorack too.
    The Polyend Poly 2, is a nice option for $350, that includes MIDI I/O and usb in.
    Manikin Electronic CV-DAC-8 is an 8-channel audio/CV USB interface eurorack module. It sends both CV and audio signals through two sets of outputs, for $400.

  • @bci3937
    @bci3937 5 років тому

    Thank you for this Information.
    ES-8 cost 400 Euro =0
    Motu 8 cost 777 Euro =0
    The ES-4 and ES-3 with ADAT/SPDIF can do well, but only with SilentWay.
    Arturia Beatstep Pro should also work digital and modular, was not trying all the outputs yet.
    Also a Audio Interface can CV over the Audio Outputs (in my case Motu UltraLite mk3) can 3,5 - 5,6 Volts over a TRS to TS (ring floating) Cable Type.
    But i never try that last setting, i dont wanna destroy my Setup or Rack if something going wrong ^^,
    So there are possibilities choose on...for people who like digital modular more than relalife cable patching, should by the ES-8/4/3. A Eurorack Modularsystem will make u poor and depressiv.
    Testing analog outputs for control voltage compatibility:
    motu.com/techsupport/technotes/testing-analog-outputs-for-control-voltage-compatibility

  • @geebake
    @geebake 5 років тому +2

    Just thought I'd add an development. Presonus just announced that their new series of USB C interfaces (minus the Studio 24C) have DC Coupled outputs.
    These seem to be a bit more competitively priced than Motus. Not commenting on the relative quality - I've not worked with either but options are always good!
    Nice that this seems to be catching on. Modular synthesists of the world rejoice!

  • @drfrankenspine
    @drfrankenspine Рік тому

    I have been sleeping on the Expert Sleepers ES8... pun intended ... but also... damn... This is a ridiculously useful module if you have both hardware modules and VCV.

  • @EskimoCreamKing
    @EskimoCreamKing 5 років тому +1

    God this would allow you to not worry about building up enough adsr lfos and utilities (which are important and sometimes awesome when done right) and focus on buying the effects that you want. Makes the whole thing seem less dawnting but I'll still go back and grab hard ware utilities later.

  • @roysutton577
    @roysutton577 2 роки тому

    Thanks

    • @loopop
      @loopop  2 роки тому

      Thanks very much!

  • @musictutorialsmusid5784
    @musictutorialsmusid5784 6 років тому

    great video! Unfortunately I dont have a modular but I think I will try sequencing VCV Rack with my Digitakt. sounds a like a lot of fun for modular with the trig conditions etc

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому

      Thanks and indeed!

  • @AlsRides
    @AlsRides 6 років тому +5

    Would you be able to do a video on how to integrate the Minibrute 2s with Bitwig?

  • @XanderEwald
    @XanderEwald 3 роки тому

    Very helpful, thanks!

  • @jamiesmith1776
    @jamiesmith1776 6 років тому +2

    It might also be worth mentioning that if you are on Windows PC you have to use ASIO4all to aggregate sound cards and it only allows 8 channels so if you have a 16 channel and you wish to use both (on Windows) you have to sacrifice 8 channels ( I found out the hard way)

  • @robertsyrett1992
    @robertsyrett1992 6 років тому

    ES-8 is still an underrated module.

  • @rmanpojo8485
    @rmanpojo8485 4 роки тому +1

    Im happy with my N.I. Komplete Audio 6 rmk 2 with dc coupled.

  • @oDIRECTORo
    @oDIRECTORo 6 років тому

    This is awesome!

  • @cellbiol7298
    @cellbiol7298 6 років тому +8

    very helpful video, thanks!
    btw did you know that in vsv all cables are stacking cables so you don't need all these mults?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +2

      cellbiol thanks! Crap man now I do

  • @Schall-und-Rauch
    @Schall-und-Rauch 2 роки тому

    Thank you very much!

  • @montxsuz
    @montxsuz 2 роки тому +1

    Its like a new world just opened up for me. I don't own Modular, I am not planning to jump down that rabbit hole, but I do have several semi-modulars including the Arturia MiniBrute 2S you are using in this video. I've always used MIDI - but have pre-MIDI legacy synths. Plus I have been using Motu Interfaces for ever - and never knew about "DC-Coupling" I have 828ES and 8PRE-ES - and the manuals don't even mention it - MOTU website does - 8 DC Outputs each only. I got onto this because Synthtopia had an article about Spektro-Audio CV toolkit today. (Do I need it?) And that sent me searching. Motu Volta software does not seem to be around any more - and was for MAC only, and $$$ anyway. Now I have a lot of new things to learn! Fascinating.

  • @GuitarsAndSynths
    @GuitarsAndSynths 4 роки тому

    Ace. I need to integrate VCV Rack with my new hardware modular system.

  • @JesperSvane
    @JesperSvane 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for an excellent video a really big eye opener... I have Behringer Neutron and Arturia mini brute 2s and are in doubt what Eurorack modules I want to start with, no I know...
    Thanks a lot

  • @ettorepamponazzi
    @ettorepamponazzi 5 років тому +2

    great! I bought a expert sleepers es-8! could you make also a video about ableton cv tools?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  5 років тому +3

      Perhaps in the future!

  • @fiftyshadesofurban
    @fiftyshadesofurban 7 місяців тому

    You know what would be really great? Something like this that would let you use VST/AU plugins to process audio from hardware synths.. So you could push the FX send/return from your hardware mixer into say Raum reverb or some other chain of effects from NI or others.

    • @fiftyshadesofurban
      @fiftyshadesofurban 7 місяців тому

      I just saw that you can do this. I was gonna get some hardware FX units to add effects to my hardware synth and use as fx send/return on my mixer.. But now I'll just get this and be able to add all the software effects I have to any of my hardware synths :D

  • @jonztube
    @jonztube 6 років тому +6

    Can someone tell me... Can vcv rack be used as an (vst?) instrument inside a daw (Studio One) on the same daw pc? Or is it better to have vcv running on a separate pc? Thanks

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +3

      It can't currently be used as a VST - it's only standalone software. There are bridge plans for the future and workarounds as well but I haven't studied that - please check the VCV Rack group on facebook - plenty of people have tips for that there

    • @jonztube
      @jonztube 6 років тому

      Thanks!

    • @ExpertSleepersLtd
      @ExpertSleepersLtd 6 років тому +2

      But you could still have them running on the same computer.

    • @GuitarsAndSynths
      @GuitarsAndSynths 6 років тому +1

      that would be awesome to have the ability to use it from a DAW like Ableton to give virtual modular to laptop Ableton rigs.

    • @andrewostler
      @andrewostler 6 років тому +4

      They just added this in VCV Rack 0.6.0.

  • @razzerraw1108
    @razzerraw1108 6 років тому

    16:47 I like that sound

  • @synsormusic4154
    @synsormusic4154 4 роки тому

    I could not find the audio Interface ES-8 in VCVrack, shown in your video at 1:47, Would you happen to have a link to it?
    Thank you for your help here, regards.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  4 роки тому +1

      That's the standard audio interface module in VCV - they just changed how it looks - just look for "Audio 8"

    • @synsormusic4154
      @synsormusic4154 4 роки тому

      loopop thanks!👍

  • @TheRangeControl
    @TheRangeControl 4 роки тому

    I'm confused yet still learning.
    At 9:22 you have:
    1.)input from softtube going to input of "Multiple". Why is an output not going to the input of "Multiple"?
    Like how does an input push another input?

  • @MoltenMusicTech
    @MoltenMusicTech 6 років тому +1

    fascinating

  • @Banquet...
    @Banquet... 2 роки тому

    I would get an ES-8 but I don’t have eurorack - I want it to connect VCV Rack to my Moog semi modular gear. So I’d need a 8hp case which doesn’t seem to exist. Another option perhaps is a Zoia Euroburo, which has 4 in - 4 out that I gather would link hardware and software.

  • @mrtessellate
    @mrtessellate 6 років тому

    I was saving for the BitBox ( love the switchable firmware), and now I want that ES-8 ! Your channel will be the end of me...You should look at Oscillot by MaxForCats in Ableton. Less CPU intensive, less shiny and no popular eurorack recreation but very intuitive and powerfull. Thanks for this episode, looking forward for a new one (as my banker) !

  • @mirkoferremi
    @mirkoferremi 3 роки тому +1

    Hi, thanks for this video, it’s very helpful... I’m thinking about buying the ES-9 and I would like to sai you a question:
    I see that it’s possibile to use 2 audio devices simoultaneously in VCV Rack... is it possibile in Ableton Live too on MacOS 11, without creating an aggregate device? Or, of not, at least is it possibile to use my main soundcard (MOTU 896) for sound and the ES-9 for MIDI and CV? Would Ableton “CV tools” recognize the ES-9 as a CV output even if in the Live preferences the MOTU is selected as sound source for input and output?
    Thank you very much!

    • @dreamspyiceland
      @dreamspyiceland 2 роки тому +1

      +1 on that question.

    • @mirkoferremi
      @mirkoferremi 2 роки тому

      @@dreamspyiceland I wrote directly at Expert Sleepers support, and they answered me that no, it’s not possible and you need to make an aggregate device.

  • @g.lindh.3735
    @g.lindh.3735 5 років тому +3

    Can you elaborate about the latency that the es-8 is introducing? In my experiments with using a Roland aira modular bitrazer as dc coupled Interface (minimal Blocksite 256 Samples) the latency is quite noticable hence it's unusable.When I e.g. send triggers from the modular Hardware to Hardware modules and VCV simultaously the VCV modules get noticebly delayed. Do you have any problem with latency with the es-8?

  • @snoopyoverthehills
    @snoopyoverthehills 6 років тому +3

    where to get these cables?

  • @TheRangeControl
    @TheRangeControl 4 роки тому +1

    Another question:
    Do the virtual eurorack plug ins work with Reason?

  • @gilbertcordina7130
    @gilbertcordina7130 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this i was wondering lately how i can control my VCV with software and hardware

  • @Septimius
    @Septimius 5 років тому +1

    Could one use, say, the inputs and outputs on a Scarlett 18i20 to create the same virtualhardware patching? Or is there something special about the ES-8 over normal interfaces?

  • @twistedneck
    @twistedneck 4 роки тому

    Is there a consensus now for Eurorack to VCV Rack what is the best ES-9 or the Motu 8A? I'm in need now and after reading and watching I don't know where to go. Is latency and issue with both? do both provide seamless audio and CV back and forth between VCV rack and hardware Eurorack? Seems both of these had some isssues.. Help!

  • @mariusle3385
    @mariusle3385 Рік тому

    I want to use my DAW(Ableton) as my sound source to send the audio from the DAW
    into the "ES-9" via USB to one of the "ES-9" outputs,
    from there to a filter module for example a "Doepfer A-106-5 SEM Filter",
    and from the "Doepfer A-106-5 SEM Filter",
    back to one of the "ES-9" inputs,
    back to the DAW via USB.
    My goal is to give digital sound a warmth character through modular filter modules
    Is that possible?
    Greetz

  • @bradfordbohonus5023
    @bradfordbohonus5023 5 років тому +1

    I had to return my brand new ES-8 because the jack sockets were so loose & weak that it took little effort to inadvertently cause the patch cable to pop out or fall out of the jacks. Apparently weak/loose jacks have been a problem with ES hardware for many years. An issue that ES is well aware of but doing nothing about. For $475, the ES-8 should not have such poor quality jacks.

  • @richardwilliams1310
    @richardwilliams1310 5 років тому

    Could you use the 1010 Music Blackbox with these virtual racks? Would be cool if it works and expand the setup with semi modular or Eurorack over time with Pittsburgh Modular Lifeforms SV-1 Blackbox, Moog Minitaur, Make Noise O-Coast, etc

  • @Hunterwolf
    @Hunterwolf 5 років тому

    What a great video! I'm moving my first steps in the word of integrating modular and digital. I have a Motu Ultralite Mk4 for this purpose, but I didn't start yet: I heard that many people use special "floating ring" cables (TRS to TS with the ring disconnected), to connect the DC coupled interface to their Eurorack modules, but I noticed you use normal TS "mono" patch cables, even with your Motu. Have you ever deepened that topic? I'm still confused if they are necessary or not!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  5 років тому +1

      Motu say they are necessary - I added a comment in the description to that effect as well. I works but can be harmful over time I’m told

    • @Hunterwolf
      @Hunterwolf 5 років тому

      @@loopop I'm wandering if an insert cable (modified with 3.5mm TSs outputs instead 6.3mm ones) can give (in addition to the same result in the mono out connected to the tip) also the utility of an inverted signal on the other output connected to the ring. Theoretically it will. I must give a try :)

    • @timothyharrison
      @timothyharrison 3 роки тому

      Two questions. 1) can we set up some kind of automatic trigger. When loopop reviews something, it automatically deducts my bank account and ships the gear to me?
      2) I believe Ableton Live only lets you talk to one audio interface. So if I want to keep my other gear wired in (mics, synths, monitors), while simultaneously using CV tools, etc, then sound card with optical to ES-3 would be a way to accomplish this?

  • @troach242
    @troach242 Рік тому

    hello... Help... I just purchased an ES-9 and want to use it with vcv rack. My experiments have me confused. vcv to es-9 works great... physical rack to es-9 to vcv is not working.. I am using the free vcv. Do I need to purchase the PRO version to take full advantage? I can't find the answer anywhere.. :(

  • @chatolars
    @chatolars 5 років тому

    Nice...looking into an old MOTU 828 mk1(much cheaper than expert sleepers ...)
    if I understand it will only provide DV coupled outputs , not inputs correct ? That would be fine as I only intend to send modulation from Ableton CVTools to my Eurorack....the thing is : can I use two audio interfaces simultaneously in Ableton? My other synths and drum machines would be recorded multitrack through my interface Allen and Heath QU-16 interface.

  • @danielprovder
    @danielprovder 6 років тому

    Try connecting the es8 to the MOTU via optical/ADAT

  • @SubitusNex
    @SubitusNex 5 років тому

    Dude, love your videos. This could use a new update now that VCV rack is even more capable with CV-to-MIDI (including CV-to-CC) capabilities. Something like pairing this with a Novation Peak could possibly create some really interesting results. Worth looking into I think. The downside would be having to forward stuff from CCs to NRPNs because vcvrack currently doesn't handle nrpns on its own, and well ranges are a mess too. But I guess MIDI-OX or MIDI Pipe could be a solution for that. Something I myself am looking into. #MakeEverythingModular? heh kinda.
    I guess there are module opportunities there if people want to facilitate that too.

  • @UltimateWobbleBoss
    @UltimateWobbleBoss 5 років тому +1

    Does your ES-8 still work with VCV Rack? I just got one, it works with everything except VCV Rack. Sending CV from Rack into my hardware works fine but I'm having difficulty with the other way around.

  • @nandoblondemobydick5438
    @nandoblondemobydick5438 6 років тому

    the best way of mixing both is just usin an external mixer a Sync Gen from innerclock or similar system for sync all your hardware and your go lot cheaper, (no interchanganble cv signal but for what the hell do you want that?), if you monitor through your DSP sound card no latency and all is OK, that´s my advise, cheers

  • @davidraio6380
    @davidraio6380 5 років тому

    So, in a Motu traveler MK3 I can send cv signal though the input analog and send to the make noise 0 coast from the output analog with a ring floating cable. Is that right? Sorry I don’t know if I understand properly...

  • @raducoman5415
    @raducoman5415 5 років тому +2

    Hi Ziv, I truly enjoy your videos, I have learned a lot of them. I wonder why you haven't mentioned in this one an option like using Reaktor which has dedicated blocks for this very purpose. I'm using them through REM's BabyFace pro interface, which is not DC coupled but sports ADAT in and out that connect with Expert Sleepers ES-3, 6 and 7. I'm sure that VCV and MOTU interface is a cheaper solution but not necessarily better. Anyway, it's less messy with only two optical cables for 8 inputs and 8 outputs.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  5 років тому +3

      Hey Radu, thanks for your comment - no particular reason other than the video would be much longer - Reaktor is awesome - I’ll probably do a decidated video about it soon

  • @stevenicholsonproducer
    @stevenicholsonproducer 2 роки тому

    Does the es8 have to be the main audio interface if used in a Daw? Or can you send and receive through a plug-in I.e VCV?
    I have an pro audio interface and want to send audio in/out and also control Modular in a daw with a es8?

  • @dropshadow1932
    @dropshadow1932 4 роки тому +1

    Have you ever used the ES-8 as an audio out/in without the MOTU? I own one, I love the functionality, but sending audio out, into say the Morphagene, and back to the ES-8 seems to color the sound. While it isn't horrible, it is a noticeable difference in the audio from a synth. I do plan on connecting it via ADAT to a MOTU interface similar to this one, but I was not sure if the ES-8 really was for input / out voltages, rather than audio. Any thoughts? I really do appreciate all of your videos you have helped me tremendously.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  4 роки тому

      Thanks very much! ES-8 certainly works for audio but honestly I've not done a thorough A/B comparison of its converters to those on the MOTU

  • @mcfrsvn
    @mcfrsvn 3 роки тому

    Hello, great video about es-8, ultra clear. Do you believe it's possible to pilot Touchdesigner with expert-sleepers CV ?

  • @TheSwircle987
    @TheSwircle987 4 роки тому

    Great video! Any news on whether or not VCV Rack supports multi touch screen monitor usage?

  • @deviousxen
    @deviousxen 6 років тому

    You should do a vid on how to integrate further in terms of how to add the extra virtual HP to your rack system. It's really cool how you can show the full patch virtual or hardware, cause that makes sense if you're combining video production's potential with hardware/software hybridization like this.
    Like... How did you set this up so well?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +1

      Thanks! The magic of video editing :)

  • @nickdagher528
    @nickdagher528 5 років тому +1

    Would you be able to use a Hermod for this purpose as well?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  5 років тому

      Hermod is midi to cv, so it would work for notes from a pc to modular but not a completely transparent back and forth hybrid setup

    • @nickdagher528
      @nickdagher528 5 років тому

      @@loopop Thanks so much for the reply! I was hoping the hermod would be able to take care of my needs from the es-8 and give me all the sequencing power it has along with it but it seems like I need to decide if the sequencing power or a hybrid system is a larger priority for me

    • @loopop
      @loopop  5 років тому +1

      Yeah, it’s a problem. Hermod is truly a powerful modular brain and ES-8 is “just” an audio interface, but if you’re planning a hybrid VCV setup then ES-8 is essential

  • @jonkruth4157
    @jonkruth4157 2 роки тому

    Hey bro on your softube is an in and output but i have only 10 outputs but not an input on my Softube Modular. Why ? How must i do that i have an input too. What i am doing wrong ? Please answer me !?? Thank you !

  • @TheGuyWithHighVoice
    @TheGuyWithHighVoice 4 роки тому +1

    I would like to build a rig that is meant to just process audio from my daw, synths and my guitars. Im so confused on what module I should be buying. Is there anything else than the 500+ costing es-9? (I've got an audio interface)

    • @loopop
      @loopop  4 роки тому

      If your question is about passing audio, then any audio interface would work, just make sure you attenuate the audio before sending it to your interface, and if your sound module doesn't accept line level audio, find a VCA that also amplifies levels, or get a dedicated module that does that (like SBG for example)

    • @TheGuyWithHighVoice
      @TheGuyWithHighVoice 4 роки тому

      @@loopop Thanks for the answer! So I would send the sound through the outputs of my interface?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  4 роки тому

      @@TheGuyWithHighVoice sure

  • @jasonfnorth
    @jasonfnorth Місяць тому

    Wow this looks like a really great setup but is it still relevant 6 years later? Is there a better way now to get into modular and bridge vcv rack?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Місяць тому

      The principles are the same; both expert sleepers and other companies have introduced newer/competing products with more ports/features

  • @N0B0DY_SP3C14L
    @N0B0DY_SP3C14L 5 років тому +1

    The Disting Mk4 also works well.

    • @girlinagale
      @girlinagale 5 років тому

      Disting costs a lot less than es8 I think.

    • @fulltang1
      @fulltang1 4 роки тому

      How would you go about this? Disting doesn't ha e usb

  • @robertsyrett1992
    @robertsyrett1992 6 років тому

    ES-8 is why I got into modular. Only I use Audulus to make my own modules.
    Edit: I am curious, have you tried Audulus? You didn’t mention it in the laundry list of digital-modular software.

  • @heathrezabek
    @heathrezabek 4 роки тому

    Loopop, I'm full of questions lately, but am taking my first Eurorack steps in my defense! My Q here (I can't find this video in my Patreon archive) is, are the ES-8 and MOTU still the best games in town for bridging in this way, 2 years on? I am on the verge with the ES-8 but also eyeing the ES-9 and FH-2 with some confusion... And then just discovered the S.B.G in your CV to MIDI tutorial! Daunting. Appreciate any quick pointers or tips for most flexible first steps. Probably depends on what I am trying to achieve.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for your support! MOTU never was the only game in town, there are quite a few other companies with DC coupled outs. ES-8 and ES-9 indeed are the only ones to my knowledge with DC coupled inputs. SBG is for audio and FH-2 MIDI to CV

  • @SkyscanX1
    @SkyscanX1 4 роки тому

    Hi - I noticed your using a "core audio driver" for both input and output however you are using both the Moto and Expert Sleepers hardware for input and output audio. You did however mention you only need one Audio device. Is this possible? I have a Steinburg UR22c and want to route my Model D into VCV rack, modify the sound, and then out again through the UR22c. This crashes the VCV rack when using the ASIO driver. I understand the core audio driver allows multiple audio channels in and out. Is this what you were talking about using only needing one audio hardware interface? That would be nice, but maybe not possible. Currently I can get the Model D audio signal into VCV rack and can see the wave signal on the scope. But then what?
    This would be great if it worked! Thanks for your video.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  4 роки тому +1

      Sounds like you're just trying to route audio and not CV, which shouldn't be a problem at all. Sorry, I can't help with your individual setup

  • @pangea2003
    @pangea2003 2 роки тому

    is the expert sleepers es-8 module fitting okay inside the racbrute 3U?? are you using washers to lift the module and make it fit or is it touching the bottom of the case slightly? Thanks

    • @loopop
      @loopop  2 роки тому +1

      It fits just fine - this case is pretty deep

    • @pangea2003
      @pangea2003 2 роки тому

      @@loopop much appreciated for your response

  • @maxgrymonprez77
    @maxgrymonprez77 3 роки тому

    Can you do the same with Softube modular? Softube modular doesn't seem to have audio interface modules like vcv. Or can you route cv and audio via the daw u are using Softube modular on?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  3 роки тому

      I would check with Softube since it has been a while since I made this video. If I remember correctly there were only two channels. I was using it in Ableton Live

    • @maxgrymonprez77
      @maxgrymonprez77 3 роки тому

      @@loopop Thanks for responding! I can't seem to find good info or UA-cam material about Softube modular interacting with hardware. Will start using vcvrack I guess.

  • @anatolbaskak
    @anatolbaskak 5 років тому

    now that was helpful!!!

    • @anatolbaskak
      @anatolbaskak 5 років тому

      i'm thinking about it for a long time - i've got a mother32 and a dsi tetra and would like to interface it for the lowest possible cost as well as in a spatially most compact way. perhaps another vco would be in order and not much more. your movie's spot on.