This is the best video for this question of all that I've seen for a few reasons. 1. New and old roundwounds, because if someone wants a dull sound, the comparison between old rounds and new flats is important. 2. Same bass and pickups, varied tone controls and playstyles, and the majority of the video is playing. 3. Bonus for using a Jazz, since that's what I've got.
A great video. Nice to see the different strings played on the same instrument and the same track to really show the (sometimes subtle) differences. As a new player I found this really helpful. Thank you.
Came for the string comparison, had to get my bass and start learning those amazing grooves instead! I'm a drummer, wanting to learn more bass. You've got some serious pocket man! Makes me want to play music when I hear you play.
Used tapes for my first 10 years as they were on the bass (EB3) when I bought it and everyone else seemed to be using them AND we didn't know you had to change them. After more than 50 years of pkaying I still used them on EB3's and Fender Jazz as I found as you, that they work better on a jazz than a Precision bass. Great video, thank you.
Thank you so much for this awesome video. I love you just going all back-and-forth between all the different strings using different techniques. Because this is the most effective way to make apples-to-apples comparison. Thanks again for your hard work on this
As a guitar player, I think, in the mix I prefer those Flats, silk touch, no string noise, big bass sound. I like when the bass is bassy, and when the guitar is mid rangy. Not a great fan of the new round wonds, too much string noise, finger sliding noise, zippy kind of sound. Tapewounds seem to be overkill. Great review and jam though, Thank You
Great video, you've done a nice job of giving the pro's and cons for each type of string. I've always played roundwounds and I'm happy with them but I think I'll try some flats to see how they feel.
Thank you for your heads up on the Fender Flatwound strings. I have been getting really hooked on this sound. I first tried the LaBellas.....and they were really good with a really good woodsy punchy vibe to them...but hence, the tension that goes with those strings is really strong, making my Precision difficult to play and frankly clobbered the set up on my guitar. I realize that it would make sense to get the guitar set up anew with the labella's, by while they sounded so good, it was challenging to push them around. But the Fenders you recommended (45 - 100) are really good, and has made the bass return to the feel and action I had before. Those strings had to be really pushing the truss rod around. Many thanks, JD
I use Fender tape wound strings on a medium-scale bass and they sound great, but I liked how the new round strings sound in this video. You've got a lot of grove going on! Thanks for taking the time to make this video.
Thanks for this comparison. As known string types differ a lot between brands - so it’s great to hear the fender tapes and flats. My favorites for flats are still Thomastik for a dark sound and Chromes for modern flats. For rounds I prefer DAddario Nickel balanced tension or even better the Galli Nickel RSB. Best tapes by far (and I tried lots of brands) are the DAddario Tapes… so silky and smooth
I used Gali for a while (great string) until I discovered TI rounds. I was already using their flats on a few basses and then tried some rounds on a lark and fell in love with them. TIs are my go to string now for most basses but some basses shine with other strings. I put Bill Sheehan rotos on the EB StingRay and am going to try Tapes on my Jazz next. @willObst did you try Roto Tru Bass 88 tapes? I'm considering them against the D'addarios.
3:56 this is why you need an active bass if that’s the sound you want, so you can boost those higher frequencies at 4khz and above, the sound is maybe more ‘organic’ with a passive bass, but the Zing you need for those Miller-esque slap tones lasts about half a set before you start to get a bit of dulling off! All IMO/IME of course. Great vids 👍
Hello sir! I switched from roundwounds to flatwounds a while ago and they are a blessing for my sensitive fingers! That being said, i kinda miss the sort of "edgy growl" the roundwounds can bring. But overall i'm happy with them. I play a Fender Jazz Deluxe by the way. Anyway, i like the groove that you play for this video a lot! Well done! Greetings from the Netherlands!
Thank you for sharing, Jules! - I take you to have recorded the snippets per set of strings, then cut them to this sequence. ;-) Me, I have recently come to consider the strings as the items that really matter, and the bass (or any string instrument) as the filter ("equalizer") for those strings (as well as the thing to mount them on). So, starting with my basses, I'm in the process of "carefully" selecting combinations if instruments and strings, assigning them to different "niches". (Big words for an amateur without a band...) Whereas I started out standardizing my few instruments on the cheapest strings. As for basses, I love flat-wound strings. So I have had to promise myself to keep round-wounds (but maybe better ones) on that one bass. A year later I bought its 5-string version and a set of matching flat-wounds...
Great video and thank you for using the same instrument throughout, it gives your demo much more credibility. I play rounds for the Basses I use in my Cover band because it covers most situations but have flats on a fretless and I love the sound of those too. Thanks to your video I'm going to try flats on my one of my other Basses to see how well received they are by the guys in the band.
I have two short scale and two long scale. I choose the bass and strings that fit the song. D'Addario Chromes, D'Addario Nickels. One hollowbody 1968 Lyle SS, one 'P' bass, one P/J bass, one Fender Bronco SS. I need a set of tapes. No personal preference. They are all terrific and fun. Thanks, very well done!
Agree with you regarding the old roundwound sound - just like fine wine slowly turning into cognaq. But I must say - the flatwounds had a specific wow-wow going on. Tapewounds were least impressive.
Herbie Flowers always uses tapewounds on his old Jazz Bass. Personally I usually run my Jazz Bass with older roundwounds through a DBX 286a which has, apart from a great compressor for bass, a dynamic low frequency eq which boosts at 80hz and cuts 50% as much at 250hz at the same time. By increasing the low end, it subjectively makes the high end less prominent.
Great highlights on so many bass guitar features. As a pseudo convert from guitar, I’m learning heaps! Thx. I really find the example bass line you play sooo groovy. Any chance of getting it on Tab?
I'm usually deathly allergic to slapping (probably because I can't do it). But, the way you slap sounds great! But, personally I've been using pure nickel flats on most of my basses. But, I also use pure nickel rounds on one and the nylon tapes on another. I don't love one over the other. But, that's why I have different sets on different basses (most of them are Hofner basses, though).
May sound strange to some, but i'm afraid the high tension of flatwounds would kill my MIM vintera 60's neck. I already had to send it to Fender and they replace the neck which was kind of bended and needed constant adjustment so i don't want to kill another neck. But i bought the jazz bass with the intention of putting flats on it, i don't know if ishould try my luck a second time. Has anyone tried flats on a MIM jazz bass? I Would appreciate any advise. I personally don't like lower tension flats.
Nice sounds out of each strings. I do wish that you'd added groundwounds to the contest as well. But that's it for my gripes. Great videos otherwise! Big picture, I'm a bigger J-Bass fan than a P-Bass fan (though of course I love both), and on a P-Bass, the only kinda strings I really like are either flats or grounds. I don't like rounds or tapes on P. By contrast, I like each of these types (as well as grounds) on the J - but asymmetrically. The rounds I liked best with bridge or blend. With flats and tapes, I preferred the neck - which, compared to a P-Bass pickup, I think of as "vaguely similar sounding to P, but less chunky and more 'waxy' sounding." I think the difference is much easier to hear on the higher strings. With gentle playing in a mix, the low strings can become nigh indistinguishable. Anyway, that's my take! Thanks for uploading!
Hi Jules, i am picking up the bass after 30 plus years, back then i just pretended to play. Can you teach on line? I like your stuff, but i am truly a beginner.
I've got flat wounds on all my electrics; Telecasters and my bass.....Softer...easier to slide...much more comfortable for me to play. I dig flat or tape wounds.
if you are having problems with damage on the fretboard its probably because you have the raw wood unprotected, you should probably do some coats with ca glue or epoxy resin so its way harder and the string cant samage it, that way you can use roundwound strings because they sound awesome on fretless
La Bella or Thomastik. La Bella is slightly warmer but not much difference. Both are bloody expensive, but I have one set of Thomastik that I bought in 2003 still going strong!
woah! your running flat wounds through the body?! I've heard some mixed thoughts on that one. A lot of people will say they break while others say it can work. Do you find strings break easier going through body? I have a bass I would love to run flat wounds through the body on.
I’ve had no issue on my Fenders, but I can see how it puts some strain on the strings where the break angle is. In future I intend to topload to be consistent on all my basses, because I’d like to move this set of aged in flats onto a Jazz with a vintage style bridge, but now they have a slight kink.
I run flats through the body of my 7 string fretless bass without any problems - no breakage, great sound. Thomastik or La Bella. I have a 1964 four string Burns Bison Bass and would never use anything but rounds. The Wild Dog EQ doesn't work with flats and just sounds muddy. Also have a 4 string cheapo Glarry with Adagio (not Addario) flats cost £16, and it sounds great - like smoke in a 1960s Jazz club at 2am - although I have swapped out the pickups, but left it passive. Incidentally, the Glarry is a very good buy, but you have to do a little work setting it up.
Flat wounds for sure. I hate the scratch sound of round wounds. Easier on the fingers, better for the bass. Using flats is like putting a supper charger on your fingers. Sound engineers like flats better too. I use flats on all my basses.
My guess is that any person who claims to be knowledgeable about this, in a Pepsi challenge, would not be able to tell the difference. In a double blind test your score would be no better than random.
Ok just my opinion I have been playing bass for over 30 years. First off all you should take the form off the bass to give it a true sound to begin with, 2nd I have used flat and round wound and I definitely prefer the round wounds for this simple reason. You can get more sounds out of the round wounds, if you want to get rid of some of the highs just roll off the highs. Much more versatile and better precise sounds. As far the scratching sound, after years of experience and technique you should be able to overcome that. Just my opinion. Good playing.
Stop pursuing the 'fresh out of the package' sound of round wounds, and set about discovering an equipment setting that 'mimics', if however may not quite replicate, that tone when you 'need' it, which I suggest is far less frequently than you are accustomed to because your ears have grown addicted to it for the additional pseudo significance it affords by attracting greater attention to your contribution. Your bank account will appreciate you for it. It was once the case that the 'sound' of new strings was loathed as a necessary evil come of needing to change strings for reasons of mechanical failure. Boiling was enough to...'refresh' your sound if you could be bothered. If a 'good' producer wants more...clatter, he'll secure it by requiring the drummer to do 'their' job, transient attack, thereby leaving you free to do 'your' job: providing a harmonic foundation for everyone. Never sacrifice the tonal center of the note for...the shimmer of harmonics that will be eq'd out of the mix anyway.
This is the best video for this question of all that I've seen for a few reasons.
1. New and old roundwounds, because if someone wants a dull sound, the comparison between old rounds and new flats is important.
2. Same bass and pickups, varied tone controls and playstyles, and the majority of the video is playing.
3. Bonus for using a Jazz, since that's what I've got.
Love the flatwounds!
Round wounds sounded awesome.
OMG ITS DANNY SAPKO, PLS DO A VIDEO ON ZUBIN SEDGHI'S BASS TONE PLSSS
Read it with your voice!
luv the fletwunds!
A great video. Nice to see the different strings played on the same instrument and the same track to really show the (sometimes subtle) differences. As a new player I found this really helpful. Thank you.
Came for the string comparison, had to get my bass and start learning those amazing grooves instead!
I'm a drummer, wanting to learn more bass. You've got some serious pocket man! Makes me want to play music when I hear you play.
Used tapes for my first 10 years as they were on the bass (EB3) when I bought it and everyone else seemed to be using them AND we didn't know you had to change them.
After more than 50 years of pkaying I still used them on EB3's and Fender Jazz as I found as you, that they work better on a jazz than a Precision bass.
Great video, thank you.
Thank you so much for this awesome video. I love you just going all back-and-forth between all the different strings using different techniques. Because this is the most effective way to make apples-to-apples comparison. Thanks again for your hard work on this
As a guitar player, I think, in the mix I prefer those Flats, silk touch, no string noise, big bass sound. I like when the bass is bassy, and when the guitar is mid rangy. Not a great fan of the new round wonds, too much string noise, finger sliding noise, zippy kind of sound. Tapewounds seem to be overkill. Great review and jam though, Thank You
I do like the flatwounds. It just “thumps” and sounds more how I like a bass to sound. That woody little “thwack!”.
Stellar playing and very insightful content. Thanks!!!
Great video, you've done a nice job of giving the pro's and cons for each type of string. I've always played roundwounds and I'm happy with them but I think I'll try some flats to see how they feel.
Great video! Love the back to back in a mix in the beginning and then the breakdown at the end.
is it Passive bass??
Thank you for your heads up on the Fender Flatwound strings. I have been getting really hooked on this sound. I first tried the LaBellas.....and they were really good with a really good woodsy punchy vibe to them...but hence, the tension that goes with those strings is really strong, making my Precision difficult to play and frankly clobbered the set up on my guitar. I realize that it would make sense to get the guitar set up anew with the labella's, by while they sounded so good, it was challenging to push them around. But the Fenders you recommended (45 - 100) are really good, and has made the bass return to the feel and action I had before. Those strings had to be really pushing the truss rod around. Many thanks, JD
I use Fender tape wound strings on a medium-scale bass and they sound great, but I liked how the new round strings sound in this video.
You've got a lot of grove going on!
Thanks for taking the time to make this video.
Really helpful video, great breadth of playing (including the section with the foam!). Thanks.
Thanks for this comparison. As known string types differ a lot between brands - so it’s great to hear the fender tapes and flats. My favorites for flats are still Thomastik for a dark sound and Chromes for modern flats. For rounds I prefer DAddario Nickel balanced tension or even better the Galli Nickel RSB. Best tapes by far (and I tried lots of brands) are the DAddario Tapes… so silky and smooth
I used Gali for a while (great string) until I discovered TI rounds. I was already using their flats on a few basses and then tried some rounds on a lark and fell in love with them. TIs are my go to string now for most basses but some basses shine with other strings. I put Bill Sheehan rotos on the EB StingRay and am going to try Tapes on my Jazz next.
@willObst did you try Roto Tru Bass 88 tapes? I'm considering them against the D'addarios.
Thanks for the comparisons! I personally love the tapewounds on my Jazz bass....I just love the warmer sound and feel....
Thank you, I love my J Bass and I'm a beginner. The foam trick really was a cool idea to make it sound more like a P bass too
Great video. I’ll get a round wound set and let it get old for life! I love that tone and plus, I won’t worry about re stringing my bass
3:56 this is why you need an active bass if that’s the sound you want, so you can boost those higher frequencies at 4khz and above, the sound is maybe more ‘organic’ with a passive bass, but the Zing you need for those Miller-esque slap tones lasts about half a set before you start to get a bit of dulling off! All IMO/IME of course. Great vids 👍
Hello sir! I switched from roundwounds to flatwounds a while ago and they are a blessing for my sensitive fingers! That being said, i kinda miss the sort of "edgy growl" the roundwounds can bring. But overall i'm happy with them. I play a Fender Jazz Deluxe by the way. Anyway, i like the groove that you play for this video a lot! Well done! Greetings from the Netherlands!
look into cobalt flats. they get some of that same growl that roundwounds get
@@TheSteelDialga I heard cobalts rust easily tho, putting me off
I love all of those tones. They all have their place. Great playing Jules.
Flats on Jazz Bass
McCartney, Danko, JPJ
*chef’s kiss*
Rounds on Jazz bass,Geddy Lee,Tim Commerford,Flea.
Thank you for sharing, Jules! - I take you to have recorded the snippets per set of strings, then cut them to this sequence. ;-)
Me, I have recently come to consider the strings as the items that really matter, and the bass (or any string instrument) as the filter ("equalizer") for those strings (as well as the thing to mount them on).
So, starting with my basses, I'm in the process of "carefully" selecting combinations if instruments and strings, assigning them to different "niches". (Big words for an amateur without a band...) Whereas I started out standardizing my few instruments on the cheapest strings.
As for basses, I love flat-wound strings. So I have had to promise myself to keep round-wounds (but maybe better ones) on that one bass. A year later I bought its 5-string version and a set of matching flat-wounds...
Great video! I use dead rounds on my jazz bass, flats on my precision.
Great video and thank you for using the same instrument throughout, it gives your demo much more credibility. I play rounds for the Basses I use in my Cover band because it covers most situations but have flats on a fretless and I love the sound of those too. Thanks to your video I'm going to try flats on my one of my other Basses to see how well received they are by the guys in the band.
Recommend you change the strings but don't tell them.......
I have two short scale and two long scale. I choose the bass and strings that fit the song. D'Addario Chromes, D'Addario Nickels. One hollowbody 1968 Lyle SS, one 'P' bass, one P/J bass, one Fender Bronco SS. I need a set of tapes.
No personal preference. They are all terrific and fun.
Thanks, very well done!
Have your ever tried a bit of a mix of strings? Say for example flatwound on the E and A strings and new rounds on the D and G?
Too wild 😜
Agree with you regarding the old roundwound sound - just like fine wine slowly turning into cognaq. But I must say - the flatwounds had a specific wow-wow going on. Tapewounds were least impressive.
What about nylon wrapped flatwounds?
very nice video! I'm looking at some tapes for a medium scale 5 jazz as my 1 road worn P has Chromes on it. cheers
I like the sound of the new round wounds best. Excellent demo.
Would have been great to know which brands of strings are used throughout.
Herbie Flowers always uses tapewounds on his old Jazz Bass.
Personally I usually run my Jazz Bass with older roundwounds through a DBX 286a which has, apart from a great compressor for bass, a dynamic low frequency eq which boosts at 80hz and cuts 50% as much at 250hz at the same time.
By increasing the low end, it subjectively makes the high end less prominent.
Love the Flatwounds. ♥️♥️😄🎸
Great highlights on so many bass guitar features. As a pseudo convert from guitar, I’m learning heaps! Thx. I really find the example bass line you play sooo groovy. Any chance of getting it on Tab?
Excellent overview thank youu!
The flat wounds seem to have a little more low end response
That punch.
Awesome video, thanks for the effort!
GHS Pressurewounds. Have it all. Great great playing too!
great tone. what height do you have your pickups set to?
I'm usually deathly allergic to slapping (probably because I can't do it). But, the way you slap sounds great!
But, personally I've been using pure nickel flats on most of my basses. But, I also use pure nickel rounds on one and the nylon tapes on another. I don't love one over the other. But, that's why I have different sets on different basses (most of them are Hofner basses, though).
Great video, really well done 👍
It's really all in the fingers, beautiful playing.
Great Video, thanks for sharing. May I ask, what strength the Nylon tapewounds are? The set wit E-string 105 or 115? Thanks in advance. 🙏🏻
What is that first bass line from, for some reason I know that one, but I can’t place it. Thanks!
Very informative thank you
Great info.Well presented.
Really interesting stuff - thanks
May sound strange to some, but i'm afraid the high tension of flatwounds would kill my MIM vintera 60's neck. I already had to send it to Fender and they replace the neck which was kind of bended and needed constant adjustment so i don't want to kill another neck. But i bought the jazz bass with the intention of putting flats on it, i don't know if ishould try my luck a second time. Has anyone tried flats on a MIM jazz bass? I Would appreciate any advise. I personally don't like lower tension flats.
If you want tape wound strings to have some more tension, go up a gauge size
Do you ever talk about your amp settings? I am using guitar rig and Amplitube but I can never quite get the sound you're getting regardless of strings
Old roundwounds though. The Khrungbin bass philosophy. Lol sounds so nice
Great great info! Thanks a lot
Nice sounds out of each strings. I do wish that you'd added groundwounds to the contest as well. But that's it for my gripes. Great videos otherwise!
Big picture, I'm a bigger J-Bass fan than a P-Bass fan (though of course I love both), and on a P-Bass, the only kinda strings I really like are either flats or grounds. I don't like rounds or tapes on P. By contrast, I like each of these types (as well as grounds) on the J - but asymmetrically.
The rounds I liked best with bridge or blend. With flats and tapes, I preferred the neck - which, compared to a P-Bass pickup, I think of as "vaguely similar sounding to P, but less chunky and more 'waxy' sounding." I think the difference is much easier to hear on the higher strings. With gentle playing in a mix, the low strings can become nigh indistinguishable.
Anyway, that's my take!
Thanks for uploading!
what pickups are those? sounds nice
Great video! Thank you! 😎🔥💯
The flatwounds sound the best on the lower end of fretboard and the nylon tapewounds sound really good on the higher end of the fretboard
Great video thank you.
Hi Jules, i am picking up the bass after 30 plus years, back then i just pretended to play. Can you teach on line? I like your stuff, but i am truly a beginner.
I thinks the tapewounds are amazing
nice job!
me sitting here playing my electric guitar on this beautiful backing track
I've got flat wounds on all my electrics; Telecasters and my bass.....Softer...easier to slide...much more comfortable for me to play. I dig flat or tape wounds.
I actually have hard time telling the difference. Maybe the backing track is a bit loud?
Great Video
What strings would you recommend for a fretless bass?
I wouldn't be inclined to use roundwound strings because of whare on the fretboard.
if you are having problems with damage on the fretboard its probably because you have the raw wood unprotected, you should probably do some coats with ca glue or epoxy resin so its way harder and the string cant samage it, that way you can use roundwound strings because they sound awesome on fretless
La Bella or Thomastik. La Bella is slightly warmer but not much difference. Both are bloody expensive, but I have one set of Thomastik that I bought in 2003 still going strong!
I use Roto Jazz Flats on my fretless and love them but going to be adventurous and try some tapes.
woah! your running flat wounds through the body?! I've heard some mixed thoughts on that one. A lot of people will say they break while others say it can work. Do you find strings break easier going through body? I have a bass I would love to run flat wounds through the body on.
what do you mean exactly by running the flat wounds through the body?
I’ve had no issue on my Fenders, but I can see how it puts some strain on the strings where the break angle is.
In future I intend to topload to be consistent on all my basses, because I’d like to move this set of aged in flats onto a Jazz with a vintage style bridge, but now they have a slight kink.
I run flats through the body of my 7 string fretless bass without any problems - no breakage, great sound. Thomastik or La Bella. I have a 1964 four string Burns Bison Bass and would never use anything but rounds. The Wild Dog EQ doesn't work with flats and just sounds muddy. Also have a 4 string cheapo Glarry with Adagio (not Addario) flats cost £16, and it sounds great - like smoke in a 1960s Jazz club at 2am - although I have swapped out the pickups, but left it passive. Incidentally, the Glarry is a very good buy, but you have to do a little work setting it up.
Flat wounds for sure. I hate the scratch sound of round wounds. Easier on the fingers, better for the bass. Using flats is like putting a supper charger on your fingers. Sound engineers like flats better too. I use flats on all my basses.
Yes I think homerecording turns me onto flats for my fretted. Easier in the mix and more old sounding. But what for a fretless?
flatwounds all the life! but Thomastik ;-)
NICE VIDEO,
I USE D'ADDARIO NICKEL ROUND WOUND MEDIUM
4:15 PLEASE STOP IT SIR!
Nice video, thanks!
Lol the backing track almost covers the horrible string noise from roundwounds when your moving up and down the neck. Flat wounds every time for me
Are you using the same nut for all those strings?
Yes
My guess is that any person who claims to be knowledgeable about this, in a Pepsi challenge, would not be able to tell the difference. In a double blind test your score would be no better than random.
Thanks!
Reminds me of level 1 from Sonic Spinball on the Genesis/MegaDrive (seriously, look it up)
Cheers mate
Flatwounds all the way and they are at home on jazz bass la Bella flats on mine
Flatwounds have heavy darker tone.
Boil roundwounds to bring high end back
Yes people who didn't try Tapes with a pick didn't actually try Tapes... that's the one thing they argueably do better than flats.
I bought Tapewound strings for my Fender Mexican Precision Bass....
Hmmm....
🤔🤔🎵🎵🎵
hi there, can you tell me what you think of that Mexican made Precision?
@@1Ratrod
I have the 75th Anniversary Mexican P Bass.
The Silver one.
It's Beautiful ❤️
My No.1 Bass
😃♥️♥️♥️😃👍
Ok just my opinion I have been playing bass for over 30 years. First off all you should take the form off the bass to give it a true sound to begin with, 2nd I have used flat and round wound and I definitely prefer the round wounds for this simple reason. You can get more sounds out of the round wounds, if you want to get rid of some of the highs just roll off the highs. Much more versatile and better precise sounds. As far the scratching sound, after years of experience and technique you should be able to overcome that. Just my opinion. Good playing.
Stop pursuing the 'fresh out of the package' sound of round wounds, and set about discovering an equipment setting that 'mimics', if however may not quite replicate, that tone when you 'need' it, which I suggest is far less frequently than you are accustomed to because your ears have grown addicted to it for the additional pseudo significance it affords by attracting greater attention to your contribution. Your bank account will appreciate you for it.
It was once the case that the 'sound' of new strings was loathed as a necessary evil come of needing to change strings for reasons of mechanical failure. Boiling was enough to...'refresh' your sound if you could be bothered. If a 'good' producer wants more...clatter, he'll secure it by requiring the drummer to do 'their' job, transient attack, thereby leaving you free to do 'your' job: providing a harmonic foundation for everyone.
Never sacrifice the tonal center of the note for...the shimmer of harmonics that will be eq'd out of the mix anyway.