If you are holding the Dec 31st game with such gravity, it would be intelligent to consider who was out with injury and who was healthy. On a similar point, I believe the Vikings have six completely new players on defense, so system aside, many of the pieces are different. The rational of "Vikings play good early, but teams figure them out." Is a little too simplistic.
Week #1 the Vikings wont be able to handle Dexter Lawrence, and Thibodeaux and Burns..Week #2 Bosa/Hargrave and the the Niners D line were in the Super bowl and will crush Darnold,,Week #3 Hunter and Anderson will overrun the hapless Vikings...week #4 Kenny Clark and Rashan Gary will dominate ( soon to be pumpkin ) Darnold ....Ok this is getting boring now..
@@deeznutzz8882 I don't understand your response. Maybe I missed it in their analysis but, I didn't hear them say total Super Bowls is the reason they were picking a team. If it were, it would seem like a odd statistic to consider when trying to predict a winner. If that's the case, maybe they should stop picking Buffalo.
All of the predictions rgarding the Vikings are made mostly on previous seasons not on what is currently happening. It's like saying back in the 70s gas was .45 a gallon, what good is that going to do me now?
Against GB in the second 2023 game... the Vikings played approximately 40 to 50% of the game with one CB on the field... A. Evans played 100% of the Def snaps, M. Blackmon played 50%, and A. Booth played 11%... and those were the only CB's to play on defensive snaps. Pretty sure Gilmore, Griffin, and Murphy as the CB's... is way better.
@@williamhermann6635 Heard the same from the asshat 49er's fans two weeks ago... how Gilmore got roasted by the 49er's last year... 49er's took that L from Gilmore in 2024.
These two idiots failed to realize that the Vikings Defense this year, play fast, pass rushers and Dline men are lightening fast compared to last year.
Couple things about Darnold in Carolina in 2021 compared to this season. First, Carolina was a bad team in 2021 with bad coaching. Second, Carolina had an easy slate the first three games, then lost Christian McCaffrey and played the Cowboys and Eagles. Not too tough to see why Darnold declined after three weeks in 2021. This season with the Vikings, Darnold has a good team around him and good coaching. And he's already done well against two tough opponents in the 9ers and Texans. Also not buying into early season Flores vs. late season Flores. Last season, the Bucs had answers for Flores' scheme week one and were very effective. The reason Flores' defense went downhill later in the season was due to injuries- particularly in the secondary. Also, Flores' scheme last season was a lot different than this year's scheme. Last year he played relatively standard Cover-2 based zone behind the Cover-0 presnap look. This year he is playing innovative zone and is mixing in some man coverage (Flores played almost all zone last season) that is more difficult for OCs and QBs to figure out. And even watching the tape, you still don't know what you're going to get. Flores is a Belichick-style, week-to-week game planner and isn't afraid to change things up. And he's got better players at all three levels this year to work with.
The Sam Darnold 3-0 2021 start is the laziest take ever... and just fake news. The three wins in 2021 were against Jets (Rookie Z. Wilson), Saints (J. Winston), and Texans ( Rookie Davis Mills)... or the dregs of the NFL. Also Panthers 2021 O-Line was ranked 31st in the league, coaching was bottom 1/4 of the league and receiving weapons were bottom half of the league. 2024 Vikings are arguably top five in coaching, receiving weapons, and defense, while the O-Line is top ten. Also in 2021 Darnold did not get his 8th passing TD until week 17... 2024 8th passing TD in week 3. Also in 2021 CMC went out injured for the Panthers as the 3-0 start ended. It is just patently asinine to compare the two starts.
This is why I always say, CONTEXT matters. Thanks bro. That 3-0 take is definitely lazy asf. I keep saying to people who are waiting for the wheels to come off that, aside from having a great system, play caller and talent, Darnold has a running game and a damm good D. And the same goes with BFlo’s D. With a productive offense BFlo’s D is better. And I truly believe that what will separate us from everyone is our running game. KOC with a running game ensures that Sam will not need to do it all. All he has to do is play within the system. For every time people point a pass that could have been picked I can show multiple times when Darnold pulled the ball down and took a sack or ran it. His decisioning is much improved.
What it really comes down to is this, you have two teams that have successfully “retooled” their respective teams. The single biggest question will be if through the course of the season if they can stay healthy. Especially at the O-Line and other key positions. And not have a significant drop off when someone does go down for the rest of the game, or longer, ie Hockenson.
Maybe not so hot take hot take. Based on the talent MN has at WR, what MLF was able to scheme up for Willis and how Willis was able to execute, if GB had their choice between Love sitting another week or having Jaire and Valentine healthy, having Jaire and Valentine healthy would position them better for a W.
Division games are very hard regardless of personal or stats or the team record. Qb play will be the factor. Whoever wins the trenches and which qb has less mistake is going to win
While it hasn't always resulted in wins in the past, I feel like Lafluer does his best coaching when there are important injuries to the team. GB did well even when Davante was hurt. GB was competitive last year even with half the cap hurt on the bench. Now he is 2-0 with a backup QB.
@@NickyTesla possibly. They weren't good teams. But there are plenty of other teams that would have lost with their backups. Look at Miami. Or the Bears, who couldn't beat the colts even with their starter
@@NUMBER1MCNOT2 stop it. The 49ers are 1-2 and the Texans barely beat the Colts when they were fully healthy. If we’re résumé thumping, start with your own.
Sam Darnold was 24 years old in 2021... wouldn't it be prudent to assume that his game has improved as he enters his early prime as a 27 year old NFL QB... especially as his coaching has improved 100%, over the past two seasons?
The Packers will be dominated by the Vikings Purple Haze defense. Can someone please tell me who the Packers have beaten??? They got destroyed by the now 5th place Eagles, but beat the hapless 24th ranked Colts and the dead last place Titans. Sorry, but the stats built up by the Pack, were built on two bad teams. The Packers are a paper tiger, based on padded stats against pathetic teams. vikings will destroy them, and I personally think it will be coaching malpractice if the coach puts Love in the game against the Vikings Purple Haze defense. This is not a must win for the Pack. They need to keep Jordan away from this game. Then start him next week, so he can live to play another day. Vikings 30-10.
The packers are giving themselves a disadvantage by starting a hurt Hordan Love versus a healthy and confident Malik Willis. Mistake to bring them back
I hope they play Malik, that run game gonna get shut down real quick. And Malik not gonna be able to pick apart the defense too much to process in 1-3 secs
You smokin crack , 35-10 ? Lmao .. you are coming back to reality come Sunday guaranteed . Same defense Jordan love dealt with last season and absolutely took a dookie on that so called pass rush .
@williamhermann6635 Should be a good game then can't get mad at minnesota fans getting excited everyone in the media and fans completely brushed them off before the season true fans knew our defense was gonna be this good it all depends on Darnold if he can just manage the game the Vikes will be in the playoffs
If the cause of outcomes isn't researched, it's just lazy, biased BS. I wouldn't guarantee a win for either fan base, but I will say this... if the Packers had played the 49ers and the Texans before this matchup, I'm not sure they'd be singing GB's praises so willingly. The Vikings didn't just win, they dominated and controlled those games. Jorden Love will not be looking at the same team or dealing with the same team as either of last year's matchups. Let's be honest... who are the analysts more in love with? Purdy or Love? Stroud or Love? Yet they're so ready to hand the nod to Jorden Love like he'll handle this team. If Lafluer is on his game, I still expect a good contest. It's Lambeau and a rivalry game. Anything less and I believe KOC will out coach him and get this squad another W.
Basing anything off "late last year" MN vs. GB stats is another national media take. Too lazy to look at actual stats to see that 3/4 of MN defense was injured and were running almost zero of Flores' hires, 3rd string QB, decimated offense. Yes, the Packers were also really hot at the time, but let's do a little prep work to make it appear that you have a shred of perspective. Too much to ask? Or is it that you both can't agree so that you can create some illusion of "differing opinions". LAZY.
Love is starting, what ya gonna say now ? This should be a great game, but who ya gonna cover ? Watson, Doubs, Musgrave, Wicks, Reed, Heath, Melton, any body can go off on ya !!........😮
Its a lot better situation in minnesota. This is not the panther. He has the best wr in the league paired with a great number 2 in addison and a great rb in jones.
Packers ran up the gut agianst the Titans and wasted drives. Still not sold on La Fluer. Panics in tough spots and waste time outs. This one is on the coaches
This fool said Sam is making alot of dumb mistakes. But don’t all quarterbacks. Because I’m sure Sam have twice as many tds as Mcholmes and less turnovers. The. He says the qbs Sam faced are young or not good but Purdy went to the bowl, and I thought Stroud was the next coming. Dudes get paid to do nothing
“Week 17 the Flores defense was found out” you’re delusional 🤣 the Vikings played jarren hall at qb that game nobody “figured out” the Flores defense lmao slow asf
Dude. You beat the colts and titans. You lost to Philly. Way overrated. You lose by double digit this week. The Vikings are football‘s version of the UConn Huskies men’s basketball team. Bet them and go to sleep. This is a layup.
@@George_L-w7o This is also the same team who was 60 seconds from the NFC Championship Game who then added a new DC, Josh Jacobs, Xavier Mckinney, and 5 top 100 draft picks. Lets not pretend Packers are a bunch of scrubs. Layup? Get a grip bro.
The Vikings have been dogs all 3 previous games . A Home game is worth 3 pts so pretty much a pick em game right now but those odds could change . Depends where the money is being spent at the sports book
If you are holding the Dec 31st game with such gravity, it would be intelligent to consider who was out with injury and who was healthy. On a similar point, I believe the Vikings have six completely new players on defense, so system aside, many of the pieces are different.
The rational of "Vikings play good early, but teams figure them out." Is a little too simplistic.
It happened to flores while he was in Miami every year.
It’s moron logic. The bald one is steeped in it.
Week #1 the Vikings wont be able to handle Dexter Lawrence, and Thibodeaux and Burns..Week #2 Bosa/Hargrave and the the Niners D line were in the Super bowl and will crush Darnold,,Week #3 Hunter and Anderson will overrun the hapless Vikings...week #4 Kenny Clark and Rashan Gary will dominate ( soon to be pumpkin ) Darnold ....Ok this is getting boring now..
Boy you have 0 superbowls that’s why people doubt yall.
PREAAACCHHHH!!!!!
One day Vikings will win a Superbowl 😊
@@deeznutzz8882 I don't understand your response. Maybe I missed it in their analysis but, I didn't hear them say total Super Bowls is the reason they were picking a team. If it were, it would seem like a odd statistic to consider when trying to predict a winner. If that's the case, maybe they should stop picking Buffalo.
Everyone know Kenny Clark eats Bradburrys breakfast every matchup and Gary and Preston smith have had success against the Vikings tackles
All of the predictions rgarding the Vikings are made mostly on previous seasons not on what is currently happening. It's like saying back in the 70s gas was .45 a gallon, what good is that going to do me now?
Exactly... 2021 stats / record on a completely different team / roster / coaching / opponents... is relevant in 2024 how?
Lefleur vs Flores is the French flower vs. the Spanish flower . . .
I’m a polyglot and I never thought of that. Astute observation, sir.
Great one
kudos!
Against GB in the second 2023 game... the Vikings played approximately 40 to 50% of the game with one CB on the field... A. Evans played 100% of the Def snaps, M. Blackmon played 50%, and A. Booth played 11%... and those were the only CB's to play on defensive snaps. Pretty sure Gilmore, Griffin, and Murphy as the CB's... is way better.
Lol go watch the Packers playoff win vs the Cowboys to see what they did to Gillmore. Absolutely abused him.
@@williamhermann6635 Heard the same from the asshat 49er's fans two weeks ago... how Gilmore got roasted by the 49er's last year... 49er's took that L from Gilmore in 2024.
Vikings CBs will get eaten alive by Packer's receivers. Just pray your pass rush gets home
@@Droid6689 Alexander out... Jefferson, Addison, and Nailor look like the ones that will be feasting.
They didn’t mention Jared Hall was Minnesota’s Qb in the game they lost, giving up field position.
Cant blame Jared Hall for the defense getting destroyed.
These two idiots failed to realize that the Vikings Defense this year, play fast, pass rushers and Dline men are lightening fast compared to last year.
not really, the Vikings D always start strong and then can't keep up once the NFL adapts, same old story
Weren’t they great early last year too? Then meh
Remind who was the Vikings QB last year during week 17...
Was the QB playing Safety or something 😂
A Hall / Mullens hybrid.
Same guy that had a good 2 game streak and all you fans where hyped till they face GB lol delusional fans
Be sure to check this at 4pm est time tomorrow
@@cesarmeza5331Our secondary was depleted too in week 17
Why they acting like KOC hasnt been cooking on the offensive side too. Both Coaches for the Vikings are cooking
Couple things about Darnold in Carolina in 2021 compared to this season. First, Carolina was a bad team in 2021 with bad coaching. Second, Carolina had an easy slate the first three games, then lost Christian McCaffrey and played the Cowboys and Eagles. Not too tough to see why Darnold declined after three weeks in 2021. This season with the Vikings, Darnold has a good team around him and good coaching. And he's already done well against two tough opponents in the 9ers and Texans.
Also not buying into early season Flores vs. late season Flores. Last season, the Bucs had answers for Flores' scheme week one and were very effective. The reason Flores' defense went downhill later in the season was due to injuries- particularly in the secondary. Also, Flores' scheme last season was a lot different than this year's scheme. Last year he played relatively standard Cover-2 based zone behind the Cover-0 presnap look. This year he is playing innovative zone and is mixing in some man coverage (Flores played almost all zone last season) that is more difficult for OCs and QBs to figure out. And even watching the tape, you still don't know what you're going to get. Flores is a Belichick-style, week-to-week game planner and isn't afraid to change things up. And he's got better players at all three levels this year to work with.
This is not last year's Vikings DEF. Not even close. Starting them for the 3rd straight week in fantasy. SKOL Vikes!
Yall really gonna predict this game based on last years Vikings defense? 😆
This is a whole new animal! With a ton of new players.
The Sam Darnold 3-0 2021 start is the laziest take ever... and just fake news. The three wins in 2021 were against Jets (Rookie Z. Wilson), Saints (J. Winston), and Texans ( Rookie Davis Mills)... or the dregs of the NFL. Also Panthers 2021 O-Line was ranked 31st in the league, coaching was bottom 1/4 of the league and receiving weapons were bottom half of the league. 2024 Vikings are arguably top five in coaching, receiving weapons, and defense, while the O-Line is top ten. Also in 2021 Darnold did not get his 8th passing TD until week 17... 2024 8th passing TD in week 3.
Also in 2021 CMC went out injured for the Panthers as the 3-0 start ended.
It is just patently asinine to compare the two starts.
This is why I always say, CONTEXT matters. Thanks bro. That 3-0 take is definitely lazy asf. I keep saying to people who are waiting for the wheels to come off that, aside from having a great system, play caller and talent, Darnold has a running game and a damm good D. And the same goes with BFlo’s D. With a productive offense BFlo’s D is better. And I truly believe that what will separate us from everyone is our running game. KOC with a running game ensures that Sam will not need to do it all. All he has to do is play within the system. For every time people point a pass that could have been picked I can show multiple times when Darnold pulled the ball down and took a sack or ran it. His decisioning is much improved.
@@ethananthony7419 lol @ decisioning
How about the fact that vikings didnt have qb in week 17.
Their qb didn’t play defense
@@joer1678 this isn't the defense of last year either.
Vikings win all day respect what koc doing with darnold too Skol
It’s KO. Don’t make it weird by adding the unnecessary C.
What it really comes down to is this, you have two teams that have successfully “retooled” their respective teams.
The single biggest question will be if through the course of the season if they can stay healthy. Especially at the O-Line and other key positions. And not have a significant drop off when someone does go down for the rest of the game, or longer, ie Hockenson.
Maybe not so hot take hot take. Based on the talent MN has at WR, what MLF was able to scheme up for Willis and how Willis was able to execute, if GB had their choice between Love sitting another week or having Jaire and Valentine healthy, having Jaire and Valentine healthy would position them better for a W.
28-13 Vikings
35-10 VIKES4LIFE
If you’re so confident mortgage the house with the points
@@joer1678 if I was really so confident I’d have said 55-3 Vikings 🤦🏽♂️
@raybrean9889 who were those stiffs GB beat again?
@raybrean9889 11 hours from now the Vikings will show you the Packers ain't on our level
Division games are very hard regardless of personal or stats or the team record. Qb play will be the factor. Whoever wins the trenches and which qb has less mistake is going to win
While it hasn't always resulted in wins in the past, I feel like Lafluer does his best coaching when there are important injuries to the team. GB did well even when Davante was hurt. GB was competitive last year even with half the cap hurt on the bench. Now he is 2-0 with a backup QB.
Against 2 quarterbacks who will be benched before the end of the season.
@@NickyTesla possibly. They weren't good teams. But there are plenty of other teams that would have lost with their backups. Look at Miami. Or the Bears, who couldn't beat the colts even with their starter
GB played the titans, colts..😂😂😂😂 bruh stop
@@NUMBER1MCNOT2 stop it. The 49ers are 1-2 and the Texans barely beat the Colts when they were fully healthy. If we’re résumé thumping, start with your own.
@@rrsmith30 L
The Vikings defense was littered with injuries and we started Jaren Hall at QB. Calm down, Vikings haters.
Sam Darnold was 24 years old in 2021... wouldn't it be prudent to assume that his game has improved as he enters his early prime as a 27 year old NFL QB... especially as his coaching has improved 100%, over the past two seasons?
The Packers will be dominated by the Vikings Purple Haze defense. Can someone please tell me who the Packers have beaten??? They got destroyed by the now 5th place Eagles, but beat the hapless 24th ranked Colts and the dead last place Titans. Sorry, but the stats built up by the Pack, were built on two bad teams. The Packers are a paper tiger, based on padded stats against pathetic teams. vikings will destroy them, and I personally think it will be coaching malpractice if the coach puts Love in the game against the Vikings Purple Haze defense. This is not a must win for the Pack. They need to keep Jordan away from this game. Then start him next week, so he can live to play another day. Vikings 30-10.
The packers are giving themselves a disadvantage by starting a hurt Hordan Love versus a healthy and confident Malik Willis. Mistake to bring them back
Looking back this game will ultimately not be an indication of anything really. Its really early in the season
Needs to be rescheduled. Best game of the week
I hope they play Malik, that run game gonna get shut down real quick. And Malik not gonna be able to pick apart the defense too much to process in 1-3 secs
Not going to be even close. Vikings 35-10
You smokin crack , 35-10 ? Lmao .. you are coming back to reality come Sunday guaranteed . Same defense Jordan love dealt with last season and absolutely took a dookie on that so called pass rush .
Lmao ya'll win a couple games and suddenly Sam Darnold is a juggernaut. Vikings fans are hilariously delusional.
@williamhermann6635 might be delusional about Darnold but that Defense ain't no joke
@@strand7006 Neither is the Packers offense.
@williamhermann6635 Should be a good game then can't get mad at minnesota fans getting excited everyone in the media and fans completely brushed them off before the season true fans knew our defense was gonna be this good it all depends on Darnold if he can just manage the game the Vikes will be in the playoffs
If the cause of outcomes isn't researched, it's just lazy, biased BS. I wouldn't guarantee a win for either fan base, but I will say this... if the Packers had played the 49ers and the Texans before this matchup, I'm not sure they'd be singing GB's praises so willingly. The Vikings didn't just win, they dominated and controlled those games. Jorden Love will not be looking at the same team or dealing with the same team as either of last year's matchups. Let's be honest... who are the analysts more in love with? Purdy or Love? Stroud or Love? Yet they're so ready to hand the nod to Jorden Love like he'll handle this team. If Lafluer is on his game, I still expect a good contest. It's Lambeau and a rivalry game. Anything less and I believe KOC will out coach him and get this squad another W.
F the packers
F ‘em.
Basing anything off "late last year" MN vs. GB stats is another national media take. Too lazy to look at actual stats to see that 3/4 of MN defense was injured and were running almost zero of Flores' hires, 3rd string QB, decimated offense. Yes, the Packers were also really hot at the time, but let's do a little prep work to make it appear that you have a shred of perspective. Too much to ask? Or is it that you both can't agree so that you can create some illusion of "differing opinions". LAZY.
Love is starting, what ya gonna say now ? This should be a great game, but who ya gonna cover ? Watson, Doubs, Musgrave, Wicks, Reed, Heath, Melton, any body can go off on ya !!........😮
Its a lot better situation in minnesota. This is not the panther. He has the best wr in the league paired with a great number 2 in addison and a great rb in jones.
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Packers ran up the gut agianst the Titans and wasted drives. Still not sold on La Fluer. Panics in tough spots and waste time outs. This one is on the coaches
Last year late the Vikings Offense had no QB and so the Defense was on the field way more.
This fool said Sam is making alot of dumb mistakes. But don’t all quarterbacks. Because I’m sure Sam have twice as many tds as Mcholmes and less turnovers. The. He says the qbs Sam faced are young or not good but Purdy went to the bowl, and I thought Stroud was the next coming. Dudes get paid to do nothing
Vikings gonna bare bottom spank these Packers.
Packers 31-Viking 27
Vikings should roll em
Vikings skol
34-17 Packers.... sorry Skol nation!
Vikings 34 packers 13
“Week 17 the Flores defense was found out” you’re delusional 🤣 the Vikings played jarren hall at qb that game nobody “figured out” the Flores defense lmao slow asf
Jarren Hall doesnt play defense. That defense was getting destroyed regardless of who was under center.
@@williamhermann6635what happened yesterday? And qb absolutely affects the defense learn ball
You people move the goal post on Darnold every week.
Do you really expect people to ignore 5 or 6 years of failure because of 3 good games?
WHAT HAPPENEDUUUUHHHH
🏈GO PACK GO!!🏈
NO PACK NO!!
Packers baby!!! Stay humble, stay hungry!!
Packers win 34-13
GPG
NO PACK NO!!
How many different accents does this dude have lol
Packers are way overrated. This has Viking blowout win written all over this
Ya'll have Sam "seeing ghosts" Darnold at qb and want to call the Packers overrated?
Dude. You beat the colts and titans. You lost to Philly. Way overrated. You lose by double digit this week. The Vikings are football‘s version of the UConn Huskies men’s basketball team. Bet them and go to sleep. This is a layup.
@@George_L-w7o This is also the same team who was 60 seconds from the NFC Championship Game who then added a new DC, Josh Jacobs, Xavier Mckinney, and 5 top 100 draft picks. Lets not pretend Packers are a bunch of scrubs. Layup? Get a grip bro.
@@williamhermann6635 I’ll see you Sunday afternoon with the bad news
@George_L-w7o 😂
Don't break your tv
Packers by 40.
No way it's that close.
@@liquidpza Packers by 40....at halftime
These ain’t the measly Colts or Titans comin to town, bub. You’re in for a world of PAIN.
NO PACK NO!!
@@SteeIe Lol nobody's scared of the vikings.
@@williamhermann6635 NO PACK NO!!
The line is still 2.5 in favor of the pack so someone knows something
Dont odds makers usually give 3 points for home games?
The Vikings have been dogs all 3 previous games . A Home game is worth 3 pts so pretty much a pick em game right now but those odds could change . Depends where the money is being spent at the sports book
Darnold will turn back into a purple pumpkin in this game. Packers 33-17
I dont think viking really stand a chance tbh
how? they cannot run this since vkings defense are just good
@@elsiesnyder9307 Don’t engage the troll. He knows they’re F’d.