But you like the freedom that him and the millions killed created for which you did nothing, as usual. The rest of us despise and never forget the representative signature placed upon the Book of Condolence for Adolf Hitler by Ireland. Sums it up really.
When Sean O'Casey was arrested during Easter week 1916 he was badly treated by his British captors leading him to tell them "your empire began here and it will end here" How prophetic was that?
I'm Irish but, as a human, what makes me hate Churchill the most is what he did to India and what he started in Palestine. He was an imperial racist drunk. Same as drinking buddy Stalin at the end of the day.
Total nonsense. Stalin was a complete bastard like you cannot believe, he starved 20 million Ukrainians to death for starters, there is no comparison but most Irish people know this anyway
You might think again of how bad humans can be when the government turns out the load of immigrants now been fed for free in hotels up and down the country you might be glad to be given the chance to run for your life......
How is Churchill responsible for the bengal famine ? I will admit that the British policy of a scorched earth policy in bengal didn't help but the British were at war with the Japanese who had already taken Burma, people in Britain were on food rationing during ww2 food rationing that didn't end till the mid 50s !!! Food available was given to the millions of soldiers fighting the axis , practically even if food had been available to send the food ships would of been sank by Japanese subs , a scorched earth policy during wartime and a cyclone don't equate to mass murder and genocide , India had always suffered famines long before the east India company got there , for what it's worth the Indian population rose by 300% that the British were in India, policies like banning the throwing of widows onto funeral pyres and outlawing baby girl infantaside Rose the population , along with the Indians having access to new vaccines and medicines 💊 that had previously killed millions , remember your country stayed neutral during ww2 , you had your own blue shirt fascists and plenty of irish republicans had nazi sympathies , your prime minister Eaton de la Vera even sent a message of condolence 🙏 to the German people of the death of Adolf Hitler, even tho the nazi atrocities were known then and had been for a couple of years by politicians around the world , as someone who has jewish grandparents I will always be grateful 🙏 to Churchill that he was the only one who forsae the danger of Hitler in the 30s and kept Britain in the war in 1940 when the Germans wanted an armistice with Britain as they saw them as aryan cousins , they didn't wanna fight Britain they wanted to fight the soviet Union
When facing the serious allegation that Churchill deliberately worsened the Bengal famine, it is essential to look at the primary sources: what was actually said at the time, and what the actual policies were. All of this is available at the Churchill Archives in Cambridge. And the truth is very different to what is frequently peddled by outlets like the Guardian and the BBC. In October 1942, a cyclone struck Bengal and Orissa in British India, wiping out much of the rice crop in the region. Transportation of food and other resources were hindered as southern railways were washed away. The cyclone threw part of the subcontinent’s weather system out of sync, ruining the normal winter harvest in Northern India. Previously, this could have been alleviated by the authorities purchasing grain in the surrounding territories of Burma, Malaya, Thailand and the Philippines. But these territories were all under Japanese occupation. Constitutionally, the famine was a matter reserved to local provincial governments run by Indians. However, once the news of the severity of the situation reached Westminster, the Churchill administration did all it could to alleviate the famine. Churchill summoned the war cabinet on many occasions to discuss aid. Hundreds of thousands of tons of grain were shipped to India to try to make up the shortfall. The minutes of a 1944 January War Cabinet meeting show that from mid-October 1943, about 80,000 tons of wheat were shipped from Australia to India, with 130,000 tons of barley sent from Iraq. In the same memo, another 100,000 tons of wheat from Canada were ordered to be shipped during the first two months of 1944. Generally though, Churchill was struck with two fundamental problems: the shipping crisis and the Japanese fleet. Allied shipping was severely overstretched, and there were not enough ships for its current missions. Not only would these key ships have to be diverted from their objectives to send grain to India, but from April 1942 onwards, the Japanese maintained a powerful fleet of submarines and battlecruisers in the Bay of Bengal. These were a great threat to merchant shipping and were posted there throughout the famine period. A government paper for the Chiefs of Staff Committee of the War Cabinet, of which Churchill had a copy, demonstrated the grave Japanese threat in the region. Marked ‘Strategy for the War against Japan’ on the 1 March, 1944, it showed that the ‘estimated area into which a Japanese Battleship/Carrier raiding force might penetrate’ was devastatingly far inside the Bay of Bengal. From near the coast of the Maldives to South Burma, Japanese submarines and battlecruisers wreaked havoc on the East Indian shipping routes. Nevertheless, the British administration still managed to send about a million tons of grain to India between August 1943 and December 1944. Many of Churchill’s detractors point to declining grain being sent from Canada as evidence of him deliberately refusing aid for India. What it actually demonstrates is that Churchill was strategic and sent grain from closer places to reduce any logistical issues and allow food to reach starving Bengalis quicker. If you read the full November 1943 telegrams between Churchill and Canadian Prime Minister, Mackenzie King, Churchill is clearly exonerated from the charge that he starved Indians in Bengal. In these telegrams Canada offered India 100,000 tons of wheat. Shipping wheat from the Canada’s West coast was impractical, given that Canada was already inadequately trying to transport timber goods for aeroplane manufacturing and Chilean nitrate to Egypt. And, as Churchill noted, it was a nightmare shipping from eastern Canada given that the journey would take at least two months. He instead had the wheat ordered from Australia where it would take three to four weeks to arrive. Winston, and the war cabinet, chose the most practical and quick option. Those who refuse to accept this and pretend that Churchill simply refused to aid India are completely wrong. Later in April 1944, a rather distraught Churchill telegrammed President Roosevelt, pleading for American aid. He wrote that: ‘I am seriously concerned about the food situation in India’ and ‘by cutting down military shipments and other means, I have been able to arrange for 350,000 tons of wheat to be shipped to India from Australia during the first none months of 1944. This is the shortest haul. I cannot see how to do more.’ In the same message he asked the United States for a ‘special allocation of ships to carry wheat to India from Australia.’ Roosevelt’s response was depressing - America could not divert any ships without hindering its military operations. There was to be no American aid. Of course, we must remember that throughout all of this, not only was Japan attempting to invade India but it was bombing coastal cities. This damage worsened the crisis. In December 1943, a bombing raid over the Calcutta docks caused major port backlogs. Accidents didn’t help either, such as when a ship caught fire and blew up in April 1944 at the Bombay docks. Not only was the port not fully functional for six months but that one explosion destroyed over 36,000 tons of food. So where do the false accusations of Churchill engineering or prolonging the famine come from? Partly from conspiratorial works which neglect many of the facts referenced above. But the primary reasoning is based on alleged quotes Churchill made in private, that Indians were ‘a beastly people with a beastly religion’. This quote though is actually taken from Amery’s diaries (the secretary of state of India). If one looks at the full context, Churchill was at the time under immense pressure, with the Quit India Movement refusing to compromise with the British government over independence. In doing this, they were helping the Japanese, as the independence movement encouraged mass disobedience at a time when Japan was invading the country. Can we not forgive Churchill, a man bearing the weight of the world on his shoulders, whilst being ill for much of the war (he had a heart attack in December 1941, multiple bouts of pneumonia and more)? If Churchill’s detractors actually bothered reading Amery’s diaries, they would see that Churchill often had quick bursts of rage to blow off steam. Yes, these comments were awful and racist, but to pretend that this represented his view on Indians is dishonest. Winston was a paternalistic imperialist. He was condescending, yes. But he was not genocidal. His opposition to Indian self-government in the 1930s was out of fear of the Brahmins abusing the Untouchables. He was extremely concerned that premature independence would cause the subcontinent to partition, but Churchill on many occasions professed concern for the wellbeing and protection of Indians. He once said, ‘I want to see a great shining India, of which we can be as proud as we are of a great Canada or a great Australia.’ And recounted that, ‘The unsurpassed bravery of Indian soldiers and officers, both Moslem and Hindu, shine for ever in the annals of war…The response of the Indian peoples, no less than the conduct of their soldiers, makes a glorious final page in the story of our Indian Empire.’ To paint Churchill as an unapologetic racist, responsible for the Bengal famine is a gross distortion of history.
Cromwell was more complex. He may be hated in Ireland, but he freed Britain from Royal tyranny and murder, and seen as a great parliamentary general and defender of religious freedom, except catholic agents and Jesuits in the pay of France and Spain.
They both clowns n mouthpieces but we got rid of them ,never taut we'd win over them look at tem now no Steel or coal commenwelth broke their finished no loss just like tatcher gone
Well, as usual when you are dealing with the Irish they are always the victims. Do you think Cromwell invaded for the fun of it? Ireland were sending an army of 10,000 men to join the King in an English civil war, to determine who ruled England. They can't complain when England returns the favour. What is with the micks, always seeking martyrdom
@@neilodonohoe3841 Both were sent. The Black and Tans were constables attached to the RIC, the Auxiliaries were a counter-insurgency force. The Back and Tans developed a reputation due to their behaviour and reprisals on the civilian population. Summary executions were common, as was the burning of houses, villages and even cities such as Cork. This was tacitly condoned by the British Establishment including Churchill.
@@neilodonohoe3841 He sent both. The Black and Tans were recruited as Constables to help the RIC. The Auxiliaries were a counter-insurgency force. The Black and Tans were notorious for their brutality which they applied with impunity which was approved by Churchill et. al. Houses, farm and business premises, as well as villages and towns and cities such as Cork were burned to the ground. Murder of the civilian population was common and done with impunity. Hence the hatred of Churchill in Ireland.
The Black and Tans were sent to deal with the brutal, sadistic, uncaring IRA and when they began to treat the IRA like the IRA have always treated everybody else, they didn't like it and switched to their victimhood status.
The older I get (and I'm quite old) the more it gladdens my heart to have seen Britain's overbearing, belligerent presence visibly shrink over the years, Churchill, and Britain, are largely irrelevant to the younger generation in Ireland, apart from the 6 counties of Ulster, which is a work in progress. Long may that trend continue. That being said, Churchill is definitely on Ireland's historical sh*t list, along with Cromwell, Trevelyan, Lord John Russell, Maggie Thatcher.........ah well I'll leave it there.
You could have added some West Brits like John Nelson Darby. More trouble caused there than ever seems possible. It even links into US groupings vis a vis the ME
Churchill was an alcoholic and I believe this affected his judgement ,not just as regards Ireland but the world. World War 11 was won by Russian blood ,at least 20 million dead . All the "Battle of Britain " hype is a load of bollox.And anyway the best pilots in that particular part of the war weren't British but Czech and Polish airmen who knew how to fly a plane.
i agree completely The Irish people suffered ,mass murders rapes and torture comitted by the Blackntans.in Ireland just like many of their ilk before them. WC sent in these brave boys to Ireland they were the equal of any Nazi Murderer. so Fuck Churchill. i hope he is still burning in Hell
He's disliked in Wales too for his behaviour as Home Secretaryv when he sent troops to quell a miner's strike. We booed him as children when he appeared on the news in the Saturday matinee.
@@Kodakcompactdisc And if he hadn't led the Brits to victory the Nazis would have used us as a stepping stone to wipe Ireland off the face of the earth. He sent money to the IRA you know but the IRA naturally just took it and spent it on themselves which humiliated and incensed Hitler and he swore to annihilate Ireland. Fortunately for you Britain was in his way
You are insane ! Imagine if Russia had been in charge of Ireland, honestly how many would have survived the enormous murders of the czars like as happened in the Ukraine? Churchill ? Not in their league!
@@edwardfrostickblois4191 Churchill used to write letters to mussolini he coverd up for the traitor king Edward after the war he said leave the wounded behind at Dunkirk he didn't give a flying f about the 2.500 yanks killed at pearl harbour he was jumping for joy the yanks were in the war to bail him out
@@copferthat Think Tonypandy 1910, Liverpool 1911, Russia 1920, the Dardanelles 1915, Dieppe raid 1942, Greece, the Bengal Famine for a start. Changing parties twice? His modern position as all-purpose saint is largely a result of the Falklands and Thatcher. Prior to that he was very much a divisive figure. Enemy of the working class and "imperial subjects". Entitled aristocrat and imperialist. Not for him war time rationing - had to have his champagne, brandy and cigars.
My father , who was Irish, a Republican and a socialist hated him too for sending the Black & Tans to Ireland and for putting troops on the streets during the 1926 general strike.
One of the big differences between Churchill and Roosevelt was Churchill's insistence that the maintenance of the British empires was one of the goals of WWII. Ireland, of course, had its independence by then (except for the 6 counties under British domination). but India was a major bone of contention between Churchill and Roosevelt. Empire was key to Churchill.
Yes, it was Empire. He was a 19th century man, he grew up under all the pomp and ceremony of Victorian Empire. He was no commoner, he was an aristocrat, and even though he used Parliament during war, the war allowed him pretty much to rule as a single entity on behalf of his King. He didn't fight the war to save the peoples of Europe, his goal was Empire. It's not to say he was naïve and could not see the writing on the wall for the British Empire, even in victory - needing the US would humble any delusions he might have still held in that department -, but in his heart he believed in destiny and in a world after the war when the Empire might regain lost territory, power and influence. His mind never left the 19th Century.
In his cabinet meetings during the War Roosevelt always regarded the British Empire as the man economic enemy of the US since they blocked American trade with the colonies. According to some reports Roosevelt consistently referred to Churchill himself as "the old drunk."
@@wewhofly Churchill was an aristocrat. A man who suffered the burden and dangers of soldiering from the Sudan, India, Afghanistan, South Africa, and the trenches of the Western Front. Yes, you deduced correctly an officer born in the Victorian era was proud of the British Empire and the system of governance it established in the world that survives to the present day. Churchill sought to defend all peoples of the Empire. He defended Indians in South Africa and condemned the Jallianwala Bagh massacre. In 1935 he told Gandhi’s friend Ghanshyam Das Birla that he supported the movement and was saddened by his later murder. India was vital for Churchill in his eye as Britain needed a base to defend its interests in Asia. He vehemently praised the contribution of the Indian army during the war.
@erichstocker8358 The UK would have divested itself of its empire. You don't just walk away. You have to ensure that responsible people are going to govern the country when you have left. Sadly, some of the people who came after were wanting to say the least.
@@SuperMikado282 You attribute a thoughtfulness to the Brits for which there is no evidence. When they did divest themselves of India in 1947 they did so with the most irresponsible haste imaginable resulting in one millions deaths and 10 to 20 millions displaced.
@@tonycarton8054 do you think he should have sued for peace with Nazi Germany after the fall of France, allowing Europe to remain under German occupation and genocide for the indefinite future?
Yes, he understood war and he understood nazism, well before the rest of the world cottoned on. Ireland should be grateful to him, for without him we most certainly would have lost the war and after the Nazis had conquered Britain, where do you think they would head next?
Most of your interpretation of Irish history is make believe. Churchill was no friend of Northern Ireland .He refused to defend it during the formative years by letting terrorists raiders from the south cross the border to murder and plunder .He also would have handed Northern Ireland to the south in exchange for the use of the Atlantic ports during WW2.
@@monarchist1838 I'm sure the Irish government offered condolences on the death of the King also, and probably the death of Churchill as well. What British people and Churchill in particular failed to understand is that when a jackboot is standing on your neck, it matters very little to you whether that boot is German or British. The British seem to think the British boots are somehow softer and leave less of a mark on your neck than German ones, and that because the invading army spoke English, "Well they must be on the side of the good guys". I can assure you that from an Irish perspective, there was precious little difference between the British and the German forces at the time. Both would have been invading armies, and we had already had the British variety and it was every bit as nasty as the German kind would have been. Think on it like this. As a proud Irishman, I and the entire nation of Ireland speak English as our first language, NOT our own language, Irish. That's just one legacy of British rule in Ireland. Would it really have been so different had we ended up speaking German?
@@philtheugli Do you think Britain would have set up concentration camps in Ireland to systematically slaughter Jews, minorities, and other ‘undesirables’? Tell, would Hitler have granted Irish independence or would he have unleashed a monumental retribution? Exterminating entire communities as he did in occupied Western Europe and Russia? At the end of the day, Churchill fought for democracy. British democracy helped bring about the creation of the Irish Free State, and preservation of democracy in Europe. I remind you Churchill didn’t punish the men of Southern Ireland who fought in the British Army to destroy fascism, unlike the Irish Government who ostracised 5,000 surviving Irishmen who battled the forces of Nazism. The were formally dismissed from previous roles in the Irish army, stripped of all pay and pension rights, and prevented from finding work by being banned for seven years from any employment paid for by state or government funds. The Dail would subsequently pass a starvation order in the form of a list of these men to bar them from certain occupations. They never got an apology until 2013.
@@monarchist1838 Britain did set up concentration camps in South Africa so why even ask that question?. The thing of " Ireland would have been much worse under Germany" is a lame excuse.
@@phillipsugwas Look at the mess the British left there with another cynical partition, and that wa just a handful of years after the famine Churchill was instrumental in causing. We Irish recognised the same old ploy the British establishment used in Ireland. Let the Irish starve whilst exporting shiploads of food from there throughout the years of potato crop failure.
@monarchist1838 Wrong. He fought to preserve the Empire. He didn't care that much for democracy. In the 1950s Churchill authorized concentration camps in Kenya, only 7 years after the Russian army freed Auschwitz.
it's well known that hitler made unofficial contact with churchill to stop the 2nd world war in its early stages ( i think about 1941 ). Churchill wouldnt let go, couldnt imagine a future where Hitler wasnt obliterated...if he had chosen the path of peace we would have had no D-Day carnage, no millions murdered no jewish holocaust ...all because Churchill, the warmonger, had to have his way
I am neither Irish nor British. Churchill undoubtedly played a key role in holding back the Nazis in WWII, but what he and the British Government did in Ireland, above all the partition and the anti-Catholic stance that bordered on religious apartheid, were unpardonable actions. The fact that WC had an Irish mother only makes those decisions more evil. This doc takes a mellowing approach that I find untruthful, to say the least: I doubt very much that WC mourned Michael Collins' demise, but must have been very relieved to see such a commanding opponent out of the battle. The very democracy that the UK and WC so famously claimed to fight for was contradicted in Ireland with repression, brutality, torture, and excessive use of the military for purposes other than defense. If I were Irish I would find it very tough to forgive WC.
As viceroy of Ireland, Churchill's grandfather, the Duke of Marlborough, inhabited what is now Áras an Uachtaráin. Churchill's father, Lord Randolph, served as the Duke's secretary and from age two until age six, Churchill lived in Dublin. During World War II, what later became the Republic of Ireland was now officially neutral and independent from the UK. However, over 80,000 Irish-born men and women (north and south) joined the British armed forces, with between 5,000 and 10,000 being killed during the conflict. History is strange , it now looks like Britain can't govern itself . What would he make of Brexit ?????????????
Well, he might laugh at the notion that Ireland is not now again part of an Empire. Never forget, majority Irish sympathy and empathy was not with the men of 1916 UNTIL they began to be executed; and it was a newspaper called the 'Irish Independent' that was most vociferous in opposition to the men of 1916. And on to today? Criticise the GREAT EU and you are deemed..... well, you know the list of words. History IS strange. You are absolutely right. It repeats and repeats and history students themselves resist the urge to see it repeating. Because, of course, politics is a much stronger force than history. All men become blind in politics.
@@wewhofly complete nonsense. The Irish people's views were never consulted by anyone including the Norman Irish media until after 1918. The Irish electorate jumped 5 xs in 1918. That was when democracy was born in Ireland. Which means that in all previous elections less than 20% of the Irish people had a vote. The media catered exclusively to that 20% and was dominated by Norman and Anglo Irish papers in the 26 counties and by Unionists in the 6. 80% of the Irish electorate were voiceless and had been since 1169. The Catholic church was also run largely by Norman or Norman sympathy bishops. Lazy Irish historians have repeated this ahistorical nonsense about who supported what in 1916 based on the views of the Norman/Anglo Irish media such as the so called Irish independent owned by the very Norman William Martin Murphy. Who was educated in Belvedere College; one of the hallowed private schools for the Norman Irish. No self respecting Corkman would ever be educated in a private school in Dublin unless he was a Norman through and through. May I further remind you that thus was during wartime when in any event frank reporting of views contrary to the British government was illegal.
@@fiachramaccana280 "Democracy was born." 5 million people in an Empire of 450 million. We don't even control our own tax system anymore and get fined when we disobey orders from Brussels. Believe the idealistic poetry and songs if you wish. At least the Belvedere 'Dublin Elite' crowd and self-respecting Corkmen now agree with each other - you all worship the new god, EU. Every cloud.....
@@wewhofly and whoever wasted money on your education should get a refund. Ireland like every EU member has a veto on every proposals. Its a club where all members must agree. Even a 5 year old knows that. Refund!! Demand a refund!!!! you were robbed!!!!!
@@wewhofly and if ye dont like it sod off to the England of yer Norman ancestors.... you will be happy dere with yer own kind dumpster diving and living in filth...
Churchill was a person who saw England first and all others as lesser. He opposed decolonisation to the detriment of those colonies and the UK's relationship with them. He was also a poor military taction being responsible for the Dardanelles campaign in WW1 and misadventures in WW2. Ireland was supposed to get home rule in 1914 but WW1 scuppered that. I wouldn't be surprised if Churchill was a leading voice in the deferment argument.
You have to take the Dardanelles in context. Here we are, locked tight on the western front, thousands dying every week in the most appalling meat grinder for not a yard of land. Somebody had to try something different and the Dardanelles was a sound idea executed badly. Following it he left office and went to serve on the front line. Over 30 times he went off into no man's land at night. You can say what you like about the man from the comfort of your armchair but he was a very courageous soldier and had served in more wars than his own generals of WW2
My grandad, from Glasgow, with Irish heritage, fought overseas for six years of WWII. He despised Churchill. All of his comrades did. They understood he was a power-hungry simpleton. Typical of the landed gentry.
it's well known that hitler made unofficial contact with churchill to stop the 2nd world war in its early stages ( i think about 1941 ). Churchill wouldnt let go, couldnt imagine a future where Hitler wasnt obliterated...if he had chosen the path of peace we would have had no D-Day carnage, no millions murdered no jewish holocaust ...all because Churchill, the warmonger, had to have his way
Yes, Welsh miners destroying Welsh businesses, terrifying Welsh citizens, promising to flood Welsh mines with there hundreds of horses in them and after the strikers beat up enough Welsh coppers, the Welsh council pleaded with Churchill to send in troops. Your kind are addicted to victimhood.
Churchill was an arch enemy of Irish indepenednce and nothing more to us in Ireland.than that. He was also a good friend to Stalin because he recognised in Stalin, a counter-revolutionary to Bolshevism. I like this video because it trys to speak honestly about the world's greatest evil, the British empire.
@@copferthat You can say that if you take the view, which you apparently do, that the slaves also contribute handsomely to the slaveholder's power and wealth. Ireland was enslaved by the British empire and fought against it. Do you not know that?
@@mikki3562 I know that. The Brits are accused of enslaving the world, by one person or another and as my post below states, they could not have done that without the Irish. Take a bow
After 800 years of British tyranny, how the hell could Ireland suddenly fight alongside Britain? Also, the US stood by too after Churchill begging and begging them to engage and give arms and the US told Britain to pee off. But Churchill hadn't a bad word to say about the US. I wonder why?
@vinstyles What utter uninformed nonsense you post. The Irish quite happily fought along with the British for the Empire and during WW1 and WW2. There were several Irish regiments, and the Irish distinguished themselves in the Royal Navy and Air Force. The U.S.A did not tell Britain to pee off and was hampered by neutrality laws and popular isolation issues. Presumably, you would have liked to have seen Europe ruled by the Nazis.
@@SuperMikado282many irish bought into the propaganda and joined the British armed forces during both world wars, but that doesn't mean there isn't popular support for irish neutrality in Ireland. Thousands joined the war effort, millions refused
This was an exceptionally insightful view of Churchill and Ireland. As an Irishman, I despise the man with his absolute distain for the Irish people. I do however acknowledge his important contribution to Western civilization when not caving in to pressure from the nazi elements of brit "upper classes"
He caused untold misery worldwide. Great speaker though and writer. I read his book on the second world war in eigth grade. It was excellent. I tried to read Mein Kampf at that time to see how it motivated people to such crazed devotion. It was terrible, couldn't, slough through it. It did prepare me for today and how its possible to capture the souls of a people.
Churchill did not write his own speeches... during the war Professor Lindemann otherwise known as Lord Cherwell managed Churchill. Churchill was a member of the 'Milner' roundtable and is as responsible for both world wars as anyone else... Everything about Britain was put there by the State not the British people including the church... From the Reformation...built on a foundation of hatred.. Churchill only protected that version of Britain! Britain was set up as an exact opposite to the church in Rome...its all fake and its all based on historical lies and people's assumptions... The truth is and always has been the opinion of the powerful. Britain never stood alone...that's propaganda at work...the US were already building up power with the intention of being involved... so to the Soviets. It took two world wars to stop Germany becoming an economic superpower and threatening the Anglo/American dominance. The reason the 2nd war went so long was because the Soviets did not cut off Germany's only rich crude oil supply. In doing so the war would have ended by Christmas 1941 and we didn't want that! History is a matrix of mind control just look at how it triggers the left.
Churchill was an alcoholic bum who had a taste for the high life and had his debts paid for by wealthy benefactors.....the amounts concerned put Starmer's recent donations in the realms of triviality.
@@joekavanagh8997 He practised continuously in front of the mirror throughout the night, relaying drafts to his secretaries who had to read it back to him. He then revised his former scripts until complete. They weren't fluid or enate. Like Hitler, it was propaganda but unlike the Bohemian corporal he was perpetually sozzled as Hitler didn't touch alcohol.
And worshipped in a multitude of places for the freedom he helped give them. Europe worshipped him and wherever he went he was mobbed by truly grateful peoples
Well done. Good straight history. My Irish father hated him. I know him for WW II, after which I was born, and I admired him for that. So not real popular in Ireland or India. He did not want to see the end of the British Empire. We’ll both he and it are gone.
I just finished readin "precipice" by Robert Harris, a book put together by reading the Diaries of Margot Asquith, HH Asquiths Wife, the diarys of Asquith's mistress and ofe the asquiths children, so all in all fairly representative of the time. In it, Churchill comes across as a war hungry individual. he was warned not to attack the turks in the south of turkey by Admiral Fisher, but refused to listen and walked tens of thousands into an ambush, his idea of warfare seems to be "it's not my blood". A vicious bloodthirsty scheeming individual.
Sir Henry Strakosch was paying the bankrupt soak to start a war with Germany. The files were released in the noughties. Historians are remarkably incurious about who employed Strakosch as their bagman.
it's well known that hitler made unofficial contact with churchill to stop the 2nd world war in its early stages ( i think about 1941 ). Churchill wouldnt let go, couldnt imagine a future where Hitler wasnt obliterated...if he had chosen the path of peace we would have had no D-Day carnage, no millions murdered no jewish holocaust ...all because Churchill, the warmonger, had to have his way
We all have read numerous books and have seen the movie Schindler’s List depicting the horrors of the holocaust in which six million perished yet I don’t recall seeing any film depicting the Bengal famine in India in which three million starved to death which was result of Churchill’s decision to commandeer all the food for the British Army fighting the Japanese.When England declared war on Germany in 1914 the wife of prime minister Asquith recalled seeing Churchill beaming with joy in number 10 as everyone else present were saddened and in a state of disbelief.Churchill revealed his true colours in a post war interview when he stated that it mattered not if a Jesuit Priest had been in charge in Germany instead of Hitler “We would have had to attack them for the same reason that we did in WW 1 ie because they were becoming to strong. Churchill made a secret speech to parliament stating that the survival of Britain as a world power depended on no continental power becoming stronger than them.
it's well known that hitler made unofficial contact with churchill to stop the 2nd world war in its early stages ( i think about 1941 ). Churchill wouldnt let go, couldnt imagine a future where Hitler wasnt obliterated...if he had chosen the path of peace we would have had no D-Day carnage, no millions murdered no jewish holocaust ...all because Churchill, the warmonger, had to have his way
The Bengal famine was caused by the failure of the monsoon rains. Burma had made up losses in the past, but that was unobtainable because the Japanese had overrun Burma and wanted the rice for themselves.
My aunts best friend had their farmhouse burnt down by the black and tans because they lived in a place close to where an incident occurred during the war of independence.
@@itseamuscallan7004 how? He helped preserve democracy and human rights in Europe. He could have thrown in the towel after Dunkirk but did not. The world owes a debt to our famous PM.
@@monarchist1838 u clearly are incapable of any empathy for Irish people or the mass murders rapes and torture comitted by thje Blackntans.in Ireland just like many of their ilk before them. WC sent in these brave boys to Ireland they were the equal of any Nazi Murderer. so Fuck Churchill, and u along with him . i hope he is still burning in Hell
@@monarchist1838He left the 51st highland division on the beaches at St Valerie to the fate of the Germans. They were the last to get to the beaches after holding back the German army while the rest were rescued only to find that the last of the rescue boats had left for England.
@@anthonylyons9810 Right, for a start the Irish are addicted to victimhood. Let's start with Cromwell. Here we have a leader in an ENGLISH civil war but then the Irish promise the King an army of 10,000. What has an English civil war got to do with Ireland? You know, interference, a word that pops up every time an Irishman opens his mouth. You interfered in England and Cromwell then interfered with Ireland. To connect Churchill to Cromwell is an act of sheer malice or sheer stupidity, or both. What do they possibly have in common? You are talking about a man who did more to save the world than any other against the true evil of Nazism and without Churchill Britain would have fell and just where do you think Hitler would have gone next? He'd have wiped you lot out as a sub species. Did you know he sent a small fortune to the IRA to fight Britain and naturally they just stole it, after all they were a criminal organisation and Hitler was incensed by them and promised to wipe them out when he got to Ireland. He would have wiped Ireland out with them, so just thank you lucky stars Britain didn't take the neutral route out of trouble like you did.
I heard stories that were handed down about the Black and Tans, so called because of the color of their uniforms. To see them marching on a road was to feel fear. A lot of them were thugs and behaved like thugs; throwing an elderly grandfather out of bed onto the floor with his mattress in their search for weapons.
The black and tans were ruthless barbaric nutters who murdered plenty of Irish men women and children. When they finally met a foe who was as ruthless as they were they cry foul
Churchill has limited regard or approval within Australia, also. After Australian & New Zealand Divisions had fought against Rommel’s Army, they returned to Australia - fortunately on a United States Ship. Churchill wanted them taken to Burma, where they would have faced a disaster. Franklin D. Roosevelt advised the Ship’s Captain to follow advice from Curtin, Australia’s P.M. After WW2, Churchill did not visit Australia - he would not have been welcomed in a friendly way.
I know many Australians are proud to part of the commonwealth but 100% you were better off dealing with the Yanks, they would be more straightforward and honest with Australia than duplicate Britain would ever be.
@@fintanotoole3514 Unbelievable, you were British citizens, every Australian had the right to live in Britain. Every Australian descended from Britain or Ireland, you are and remain kith and kin.
copferthat It's not the oeople of Britain, it's the elites of Britain, the aristocracy that can't be trusted, Churchills class. Look, how, Philby was allowed to escape, regardless of the huge damage he did to Brirain, to the West, to Ametica. It didn't matter. They are a treacherous group which many have had to find out the hard way, much to their detriment and pain. Its not the people who are duplicate at all.
It's not the oeople of Britain, it's the elites of Britain, the aristocracy that can't be trusted, Churchills class. Look, how, Philby was allowed to escape, regardless of the huge damage he did to Brirain, to the West, to Ametica. It didn't matter. They are a treacherous group which many have had to find out the hard way, much to their detriment and pain. Its not the people who are duplicate at all.
@copferthat grandfather hated Churchill because of the wall street crash in 29 he was a bricklayer and there was no work the government were going to help poeple with money ect Churchill was against and made a long speach against it my grandfather lost everything became homeless blamed Churchill for it
@copferthat the wall st crash caused the markets to crash nobody was building houses firms were were going bust there was no work for bricklayers or any other construction workers and in the 1930s there was no welfare state ie dole no nhs if you didn't have a job you were fucked if you had morgage the house was reposesed if you rented you got evicted for not paying Churchill stopped any goverment funded help for people out of work
it's well known that hitler made unofficial contact with churchill to stop the 2nd world war in its early stages ( i think about 1941 ). Churchill wouldnt let go, couldnt imagine a future where Hitler wasnt obliterated...if he had chosen the path of peace we would have had no D-Day carnage, no millions murdered no jewish holocaust ...all because Churchill, the warmonger, had to have his way
He killed many GB citizens when home Secretary. My grandfather was shot at by the army (Worcs Reg) in Llanelli. He (Churchill) was hated and known as a fascist. Strange he is now known as an anti fascist leader.
Churchill was a viscous class warrior on the side of the elite- he was a snob and an incompetent military leader- remember he was kicked out after the slaughter of WWII
Churchill sent British soldiers into liverpool killed 2 and injured 300 in the transport strike.. liverpool will always welcome the irish as most are families. Churchill was a fat mess
He was not particularly loved in Australia either. There are lots of Aussies of Irish descent and others who were told through family and trade union education about his role in Ireland and the suppression of workers in the UK. He threw lives away in the failed Galipoli campaign. Then in WW2 , he refused to cooperate with our Prime minister , Curtin who wanted troops returned to Australia for national defence after the fall of Singapore. Churchill at times refusing to provide adequate naval escorts for troop ships retuning from the Middle East and then attempting to divert them to Burma. He never had anything but contempt for the colonies and the dominions.
Churchill viewed the Irish as Untermensch (sub human ) like Hitler viewed the Slavs. Always fascinated me that arch Colonist Churchill was the Architect of the downfall of the Empire and the UK by saddling Britain with so much debt in ww2. If he accepted Hitlers peace offer after Dunkirk the empire may have lasted into the 70's. and a lot of British and colonial soldiers would have lived.
@@lawLess-fs1qx you speak with the intellectual vacuity of an Irish Republican. In the UK we do not use or recognise the term untermensch about anyone.
There wouldn't be a British empire without the Irish, the army was full of them and did they care who they killed? Hatred of Britain has never gone as far as making the Irish stay at home and not emigrate to England, in their millions for a better life.
The ones who emigrate there obviously don't hate ye. They don't speak for the rest of us and unfortunately for ye our minds can't be changed for a few shillings.
Bit of a clueless statement, "as making the Irish stay at home" They could join the British army in Ireland they didn't have to go anywhere. If you didn't realise it the British army occupied Ireland. You are one blissful happy person, well done.
@@fintanotoole3514The British army was not big enough to occupy Ireland. Britain relied on the Royal Navy for protection as befits an island nation. It never had a large standing army.
Ruled is an understatement. The abuse of children has been catastrophic. It's only being addressed now. They think 1 in 4 people in ireland were abused.... 1 in 4 as a conservative estimate.
I suggest you rewatch the video! But you’re partially correct! Ireland never shook off the yoke of British control until joining the EEC and cutting links with sterling! This along with later taking power away from the Catholic Church has allowed the state to prosper! Doing pretty well for a young nation I would say!
We shall fight them on the beaches we shall fight them on the sreets , what he really meant was you shall fight them on the beaches you shall fight them on the sreets , I`ll have buggered off to America if it comes to that.
@@kingofceltsalso a very skimpy look at the very complicated history with wildly inappropriate and stupid images …why do these things get made? And why do I end up watching them??
He closed all the industrial schools in the UK. He tried to get the industrial schools closed in Ireland. So did David Lloyd Gerorge. So did Edward Carson. The Irish Catholic church wouldn't have it and egged on the Irish to fight for independence.
@@joemdee it's well known that hitler made unofficial contact with churchill to stop the 2nd world war in its early stages ( i think about 1941 ). Churchill wouldnt let go, couldnt imagine a future where Hitler wasnt obliterated...if he had chosen the path of peace we would have had no D-Day carnage, no millions murdered no jewish holocaust ...all because Churchill, the warmonger, had to have his way
@@PatrickAhern-qb6xb it's well known that hitler made unofficial contact with churchill to stop the 2nd world war in its early stages ( i think about 1941 ). Churchill wouldnt let go, couldnt imagine a future where Hitler wasnt obliterated...if he had chosen the path of peace we would have had no D-Day carnage, no millions murdered no jewish holocaust ...all because Churchill, the warmonger, had to have his way
Brendan it was when the British left these countries that the wars started, same as in Ireland. If they hated the British so much why did the Irish not demolish Aras an Uactharan instead of moving in a President.....surely they would prefer that - or is it just a bit of constant whingeing. Wake up and be thankful look at your illegals now!!
Churchhill offered a unified island of Ireland if Ireland entered the war but Ireland refused because this wasn't the first time Britain offered Ireland its freedom it was back within the first world War.
No he never offered a United Ireland, he proposed an All-Ireland defence alliance, joint operational involvement in WW2 which he claimed would lead to unity, though N.I. parliament wasn't even consulted so it was never going to happen.
Yes, he did. To get his grubby hands on the treaty ports, he would have sold all the people in India for them. Dev rightly, (and he rarely got it right) definitely had Churchills measure, and his duplicitous nature was well known anyway by this stage, post treaty. Remember, that 21st century clown boris, he modelled himself on Winston. A pale imitation yet who still could not open his mouth out lies rolling out. Shameful.
Propaganda worked, 90% of Irish people were not Au fait with Churchills hatred of the Irish and his revenge towards the Irish and even today most young people have no ideajust how deep that Hatred he had for the Irish, but the Irish have a long memory, the Irish didnt and dont hate the British , but we Irish do hate and despite a particular type of British usually aristocratic but jumped up "Hurray Henrys upper middle class ,mostly Churchill types who longed for their Empire, but that was then , the Nation he despised has shown his type that what they did to the Irish has come home to roost,
Rubbish indeed. We freely joined, and could leave the EU tomorrow if we wanted, but 75-80% of the country think it's a good idea. I would rather be aligned with the EU (for all it's faults) than be dependent on the Brits for trade and currency, which is where we would be if we left the EU. NEVER AGAIN.
@@Michael-jy5rn Well we are in good company then, 25 other countries feel the same way. Even Hungary isn't stupid enough to flounce out of the EU and 'stand on their own two feet', whatever that idiotic phrase means in reality. Even poor old GB is sneaking around the EU, looking to be let off the hook, looking for concessions, and hoping nobody notices haha.
@davidh6543 well its like this brains of ireland that don't know What it means when I say stand on own two feet it seems the EU and it's dictator von der Lyon can't stand on there own two feet either when AMERICA says jump they say how high they EU is as corrupt as the come. Come to think of it your little IRELAND is one of the most corrupt country in EUROPE that why it has so much time for Ukraine
Churchill believed in English superiority - their right to have an empire as if it benefited the savage natives. Interesting how 800 years of English rule in Ireland had left them the 'poor man of Europe' but 100 years after independence, Ireland is the 'rich man of Europe' and doing far better than Britain.
I think that much of this narrative overstates Churchill’s role in Irish affairs, certainly before WW2. He was part of a government before WW1 which supported Home Rule. He was not the originator of the Black and Tans but was one member of a government which supported the policy. Similarly he is portrayed as chief architect of partition. Again, he was one member of the negotiating team under Lloyd George, and not one who had the final say. What is often missed out is consideration of the reaction of the Unionists had they been forced into a united Ireland. I would speculate that that would have resulted in a civil conflict more bloody than the Irish Civil War that ensued. Finally in the 1930s Churchill was completely out of government and not in a position to have any responsibility for the trade war. He was certainly an imperialist and a defender of empire but such positions were not exactly uncommon among British politicians in the first half of the 20th century.
I think your point about 'civil conflict' more bloody than the ICW might be on the right track but ultimately it would have been bettter for Ireland. It would have united the two strands of Irish republicanism against a common enemy and left a united Ireland in its wake with no brits on the island - or at least none who would care to oppose the will of the Irish people. More bloody but better in the long run without the open sore of apartheid Norn Iron.
He was an empire man, all beside the english were a lower class, in the end he lost the empire for ever, he was the man who gave away the pound sterling as world reserve currency to the US dollar at bretton woods in 1944 thus ending uk empire as it was, thats his real legacy, the man who lost the empire, he was the captain of the ship
Winston Churchill was born in Blenheim Palace, seat of his grandfather, the Duke of Marlborough became the Viceroy of Ireland. He was very familiar with the British, though from a lofty place. While he climbed the political ladder of power, he made many enemies. The Welsh and the Scots hated him for his brutal acts against his own countrymen, repressing the coal strikes. His record in India and Africa is no better, not to mention the Gallipoli disaster, just ask any Aussie about that. And Canadian troops sent to defend Hong Kong in WW2 just to save face. You must read « Winston Churchill, His Times, His Crimes ». Author Tariq Ali methodically tears down the myth using the man’s own words revealing how ‘history’ is manipulated to serve political purposes. Real history!
Churchilll is not hated. Dont forget many of us have families that moved to England and raised their own families there. I have black and bi racial family in England and they always find Ireland to be racist when they visit, and they unfortunately have been racially abused on a few occassions. I try to explain that reland isnt as diverse as England but when then you watch the news and see the way our peiple are treating immigrants! it really is shocking. We have been welcomed as immigrants by countries all over the world but, when the boot is on the other foot we are not so charitable.
Oh that old saw about how Britain stood alone against the Nazis. It would be better put that Britain "sat" against the Nazis and did as little as possible. The one who saved Europe was Stalin, while the UK and US took up the busywork of first North Africa and then Italy, neither of which had much impact on Germany's ability to carry on the war. Churchill himself was the biggest humbug of all. Of course, he wanted the Irish to fight for Britain. The British strategy in war was always to get someone else to do the fighting. He largely succeeded in WWII letting the Russians defeat the Germans and the Americans defeat the Japanese.
Dont forget the Indians who were conscripted first and sent to the trenches in their summer clothes to freeze to death. britain didnt win the war, it was fought by the citizens of her colonies, and russians britain just took the credit
How did Britain stand alone they had a empire didn't they and look at the battle off Britain poles Czechs Canadians free French south Africans aussies and kiwis even a irishman flying spitfires and hurricanes
Well yeah, if you wanted a fascist Europe it would have been great if Britain had done absolutely nothing…depends on your objectives. Remember Stalin carved up half of Poland with Hitler. Germany quickly overran Europe…Britain was alone in Europe to continue that fight (with huge support from all over the place - vast numbers of Indians etc). If Britain had just given up, all the Nazi effort would have been put on annexing the Soviet Union. Without aid from the US it is hard a Soviet victory as inevitable. I know people don’t want to give Churchill or Britain any credit but to somehow think that WW2 would have ended successfully with only USSR vs Hitler is an enormous assumption. Instead it is the combination of those three allies together that defeated facism.
As an Irish National, I reckon we should be grateful to him for saving us from Hitler. How do you reckon Hitler would have treated the Irish? Don’t presume that everyone in Ireland hated Mr C. Not true!
The lack of vision for a united Island is such a shortcoming for the present. What does it take to sit down to negotiate this? Only Will. And there is no justification whatsoever which says" this can't be allowed to happen"?
Rubbish, the sending of troops is just socialist demonology and Churchill's actions in this have become ridiculously distorted. Tonypandy in reality is only distinguished from the other Welsh villages involved because of the high degree of looting in which the miners indulged. Churchill did not send troops, that is a socialist lie, he sent police on the request of the town's officials. Churchill was attacked at the time for NOT sending troops instead of police. The fairytale spreaders had even gone as far as saying Churchill had sent tanks in, but considering they had not been invented at the time, I think that might just be another shovel full of bullshit to add to the rest.
They cudnt wait to get rid off Churchill after the war voted out he made loads off military mistakes as well he was happy when the japs bombed pearl harbour and the yanks were in the war to bail him out not giving a flying about the 2.500 yanks killed
Churchil not only divided India, but caused famine in Bengal in 1942.Hence, as a Bengali, I think that for the Bengalis,he was devil incarnate. Just like Cromwell, he enjoyed that Bengal perish.While, he enjoyed it,as he had engineerd, by storing all the food for the Brutish, British army, during the 2nd World War.
The British brought mass education to India and what do you do? Get a degree in historical bullshit. In October 1942, a cyclone struck Bengal and Orissa in British India, wiping out much of the rice crop in the region. Transportation of food and other resources were hindered as the British built southern railways were washed away. The cyclone threw part of the subcontinent’s weather system out of sync too ruining the normal winter harvest in Northern India. Previously, this could have been alleviated by the authorities purchasing grain in the surrounding territories of Burma, Malaya, Thailand and the Philippines. But these territories were all under Japanese occupation or didn't you know there was a war on? The minutes of the War Cabinet meeting show that about 80,000 tons of wheat was shipped from Australia to India, with 130,000 tons of barley sent from Iraq. In the same memo, another 100,000 tons of wheat from Canada, all organised by Churchill and his government and every ship ran the gauntlet of Japanese submarines. From near the coast of the Maldives to South Burma, Japanese submarines and battlecruisers wreaked havoc on the East Indian shipping routes. Nevertheless, the British administration still managed to send about a million tons of grain to India between August 1943 and December 1944. Many of Churchill’s detractors point to declining grain being sent from Canada as evidence of him deliberately refusing aid for India. What it actually demonstrates is that Churchill was strategic and sent grain from closer places to reduce any logistical issues and allow food to reach starving Bengalis quicker. Churchill wrote to Roosevelt ....I am seriously concerned about the food situation in India and by cutting down military shipments and other means, I have been able to arrange for 350,000 tons of wheat to be shipped to India from Australia during the first nine months. This is the shortest haul. I cannot see how to do more.’ That means he deliberately cut own the forces supplies to get food through to India. In the same message he asked the United States for a special allocation of ships to carry wheat to India from Australia and Roosevelt refused his plea as America could not divert any ships without hindering its military operations. There was to be no American aid. I won't go any further with this, what would be the use? You can't cure the terminally stupid but I will say, read your history and stop reading it through tea leaves.
As a Scot, the Irish I hold in total admiration and jealousy. They own there country. They started this talking about Britain was not long before they got to England , they always mean England 🤮
Are you for fucking real? In Cork and Kerry there is no love for the scots. Some of the worst black and tans sent to ireland were scottish and you will see more union jacks waived in Scotland than you ever would do in England. Youve got more of a chance of being racially slurred in Glasgow because you are Irish than anywhere in England and that is just a fact. Even the great Tom Barry said when fighting the Brits that he felt the English were there because they had to be but, the Scottish serned like they wanted to be there.
No we don't. Some of the worst Black and Tans that Came to Ireland were Scottish. You've got more chance of being racislly abused becsuse you are Irish Catholic in Scotland than you ever would do in England. Even the great Tom Barry said when fighting you lot that he felt the English soldiers were there because they had to be but, the Scottish sermed like they wanted to be there!
No we don't. Some of the worst Black and Tans that Came to Ireland were Scottish. You've got more chance of being racislly abused becsuse you are Irish Catholic in Scotland than you ever would do in England. Even the great Tom Barry said when fighting you lot that he felt the English soldiers were there because they had to be but, the Scottish sermed like they wanted to be there!
Nobody's yet to be able to tell me just why all of those countries, that we're treated so badly by the British decided to join the British commonwealth following independence. And further more, India now has a larger economy that Britain yet we still give them aid. So their gripes have never upset them enough to refuse the aid, has it?
@@copferthat Probably to get something back from what was stolen. At least it is aid and not reparations because Britain would not be able to properly compensate that one country for a very very long time.
He's not liked in Ireland and India, and numerous other countries. I will give him credit for keeping Britain in ww2 while he was under pressure to deal a treaty with Germany , he was an inspiration for British and other people, but he was blinded by empire and that is the how he could be so cruel to people in colonies
The anti-Irish commenters below just keep on showing their ignorance and bigotry, grasping at straws with their stupid, irrelevant and senseless comments.
On hearing of Hitler's death, the Taoiseach of the Republic of Ireland visited the German ambassador to personally offer Ireland's condolences... de Valera also seems to have denounced reports from Bergen-Belsen as allied propaganda. Wind your neck in.
I don't like De Valera but he was right about keeping Ireland neutral. Ireland had fought against the British for hundreds of years .Also Irishmen had fought WITH Britain all over the world. Some of my own forefathers included.We Irish were ,and are now ,sick and tired of war. What is your problem with that???
@@irishpatriotv2575 You may not see a difference between Roosevelt and Hitler but many do. This unnecessary cordiality with a nation that had been the direct cause of so much suffering ultimately resulted in Ireland being excluded from the UN for 10 years. It may also be worth considering all the Allied merchant seamen who were killed between Cork and the Thames estuary or Liverpool... Deaths that could have been easily avoided if Ireland had allowed use of its ports. (around 30,000 people were lost in total) Naturally I recognise many Irish men joined up and fought for Britain (indeed many of my relatives)... but the Irish state did not cover itself with glory in the early 1940s... Despite this I have never heard anyone in England complain about how unpleasant de Valera and the wider government was.
Churchill and BP plundered the Iranian oil reserves after WW2. He hypocriticaly spoke of fighting tyranny from the Nazis initially and then from the communist USSR during the cold War. But he had no problem stealing the wealth of other nations.
They were free to do what they wanted,but neutrality was the right thing for ireland we would have been completely destroyed /genocided out of it we wouldn't exist at all as bad as you lot are the germans would have completely finished us and still could have because the IRA was allied with the nazis and the country was crawling with german spys,thanks to a little known librarian thankfully that didn't happen.
Britain declared war on germany after it had invaded poland on what Churchill described as the bigger and more powerful of neighbours bullying and oppresssing the other. Such irony in that statement
We don’t dislike him we despise him .
I am a Welshman and also cringe to hear how great he was? Not a hero to me !
But you like the freedom that him and the millions killed created for which you did nothing, as usual. The rest of us despise and never forget the representative signature placed upon the Book of Condolence for Adolf Hitler by Ireland. Sums it up really.
Well, not surprising really, the Irish don't go in for disliking anything, they always stick to despising
@@garethjohn3184 You do know you're in a tiny minority of Welsh communist simpletons?
When Sean O'Casey was arrested during Easter week 1916 he was badly treated by his British captors leading him to tell them "your empire began here and it will end here" How prophetic was that?
@williamgoldsmith3796 He was quite happy to settle in England from 1927 and have his plays performed.
The Abbey Theatre was not nearly so obliging.
@@SuperMikado282 No doubt the ramblings of a West Brit 😂
@@SuperMikado282 The most common name in Ireland is Paddy o' Hypocrisy
@copferthat the most Common names in.britain is Black N Tan. Vermin.
@@copferthat A hugely xenophobic rant not worthy of your previous contributions 🙄
I'm Irish but, as a human, what makes me hate Churchill the most is what he did to India and what he started in Palestine. He was an imperial racist drunk. Same as drinking buddy Stalin at the end of the day.
Total nonsense. Stalin was a complete bastard like you cannot believe, he starved 20 million Ukrainians to death for starters, there is no comparison but most Irish people know this anyway
You might think again of how bad humans can be when the government turns out the load of immigrants now been fed for free in hotels up and down the country
you might be glad to be given the chance to run for your life......
How is Churchill responsible for the bengal famine ? I will admit that the British policy of a scorched earth policy in bengal didn't help but the British were at war with the Japanese who had already taken Burma, people in Britain were on food rationing during ww2 food rationing that didn't end till the mid 50s !!! Food available was given to the millions of soldiers fighting the axis , practically even if food had been available to send the food ships would of been sank by Japanese subs , a scorched earth policy during wartime and a cyclone don't equate to mass murder and genocide , India had always suffered famines long before the east India company got there , for what it's worth the Indian population rose by 300% that the British were in India, policies like banning the throwing of widows onto funeral pyres and outlawing baby girl infantaside Rose the population , along with the Indians having access to new vaccines and medicines 💊 that had previously killed millions , remember your country stayed neutral during ww2 , you had your own blue shirt fascists and plenty of irish republicans had nazi sympathies , your prime minister Eaton de la Vera even sent a message of condolence 🙏 to the German people of the death of Adolf Hitler, even tho the nazi atrocities were known then and had been for a couple of years by politicians around the world , as someone who has jewish grandparents I will always be grateful 🙏 to Churchill that he was the only one who forsae the danger of Hitler in the 30s and kept Britain in the war in 1940 when the Germans wanted an armistice with Britain as they saw them as aryan cousins , they didn't wanna fight Britain they wanted to fight the soviet Union
When facing the serious allegation that Churchill deliberately worsened the Bengal famine, it is essential to look at the primary sources: what was actually said at the time, and what the actual policies were. All of this is available at the Churchill Archives in Cambridge. And the truth is very different to what is frequently peddled by outlets like the Guardian and the BBC. In October 1942, a cyclone struck Bengal and Orissa in British India, wiping out much of the rice crop in the region. Transportation of food and other resources were hindered as southern railways were washed away. The cyclone threw part of the subcontinent’s weather system out of sync, ruining the normal winter harvest in Northern India. Previously, this could have been alleviated by the authorities purchasing grain in the surrounding territories of Burma, Malaya, Thailand and the Philippines. But these territories were all under Japanese occupation. Constitutionally, the famine was a matter reserved to local provincial governments run by Indians. However, once the news of the severity of the situation reached Westminster, the Churchill administration did all it could to alleviate the famine. Churchill summoned the war cabinet on many occasions to discuss aid. Hundreds of thousands of tons of grain were shipped to India to try to make up the shortfall. The minutes of a 1944 January War Cabinet meeting show that from mid-October 1943, about 80,000 tons of wheat were shipped from Australia to India, with 130,000 tons of barley sent from Iraq. In the same memo, another 100,000 tons of wheat from Canada were ordered to be shipped during the first two months of 1944. Generally though, Churchill was struck with two fundamental problems: the shipping crisis and the Japanese fleet. Allied shipping was severely overstretched, and there were not enough ships for its current missions. Not only would these key ships have to be diverted from their objectives to send grain to India, but from April 1942 onwards, the Japanese maintained a powerful fleet of submarines and battlecruisers in the Bay of Bengal. These were a great threat to merchant shipping and were posted there throughout the famine period. A government paper for the Chiefs of Staff Committee of the War Cabinet, of which Churchill had a copy, demonstrated the grave Japanese threat in the region. Marked ‘Strategy for the War against Japan’ on the 1 March, 1944, it showed that the ‘estimated area into which a Japanese Battleship/Carrier raiding force might penetrate’ was devastatingly far inside the Bay of Bengal. From near the coast of the Maldives to South Burma, Japanese submarines and battlecruisers wreaked havoc on the East Indian shipping routes. Nevertheless, the British administration still managed to send about a million tons of grain to India between August 1943 and December 1944. Many of Churchill’s detractors point to declining grain being sent from Canada as evidence of him deliberately refusing aid for India. What it actually demonstrates is that Churchill was strategic and sent grain from closer places to reduce any logistical issues and allow food to reach starving Bengalis quicker. If you read the full November 1943 telegrams between Churchill and Canadian Prime Minister, Mackenzie King, Churchill is clearly exonerated from the charge that he starved Indians in Bengal. In these telegrams Canada offered India 100,000 tons of wheat. Shipping wheat from the Canada’s West coast was impractical, given that Canada was already inadequately trying to transport timber goods for aeroplane manufacturing and Chilean nitrate to Egypt. And, as Churchill noted, it was a nightmare shipping from eastern Canada given that the journey would take at least two months. He instead had the wheat ordered from Australia where it would take three to four weeks to arrive. Winston, and the war cabinet, chose the most practical and quick option. Those who refuse to accept this and pretend that Churchill simply refused to aid India are completely wrong. Later in April 1944, a rather distraught Churchill telegrammed President Roosevelt, pleading for American aid. He wrote that:
‘I am seriously concerned about the food situation in India’ and ‘by cutting down military shipments and other means, I have been able to arrange for 350,000 tons of wheat to be shipped to India from Australia during the first none months of 1944. This is the shortest haul. I cannot see how to do more.’ In the same message he asked the United States for a ‘special allocation of ships to carry wheat to India from Australia.’ Roosevelt’s response was depressing - America could not divert any ships without hindering its military operations. There was to be no American aid. Of course, we must remember that throughout all of this, not only was Japan attempting to invade India but it was bombing coastal cities. This damage worsened the crisis. In December 1943, a bombing raid over the Calcutta docks caused major port backlogs. Accidents didn’t help either, such as when a ship caught fire and blew up in April 1944 at the Bombay docks. Not only was the port not fully functional for six months but that one explosion destroyed over 36,000 tons of food. So where do the false accusations of Churchill engineering or prolonging the famine come from? Partly from conspiratorial works which neglect many of the facts referenced above. But the primary reasoning is based on alleged quotes Churchill made in private, that Indians were ‘a beastly people with a beastly religion’. This quote though is actually taken from Amery’s diaries (the secretary of state of India). If one looks at the full context, Churchill was at the time under immense pressure, with the Quit India Movement refusing to compromise with the British government over independence. In doing this, they were helping the Japanese, as the independence movement encouraged mass disobedience at a time when Japan was invading the country. Can we not forgive Churchill, a man bearing the weight of the world on his shoulders, whilst being ill for much of the war (he had a heart attack in December 1941, multiple bouts of pneumonia and more)? If Churchill’s detractors actually bothered reading Amery’s diaries, they would see that Churchill often had quick bursts of rage to blow off steam. Yes, these comments were awful and racist, but to pretend that this represented his view on Indians is dishonest. Winston was a paternalistic imperialist. He was condescending, yes. But he was not genocidal. His opposition to Indian self-government in the 1930s was out of fear of the Brahmins abusing the Untouchables. He was extremely concerned that premature independence would cause the subcontinent to partition, but Churchill on many occasions professed concern for the wellbeing and protection of Indians. He once said, ‘I want to see a great shining India, of which we can be as proud as we are of a great Canada or a great Australia.’ And recounted that, ‘The unsurpassed bravery of Indian soldiers and officers, both Moslem and Hindu, shine for ever in the annals of war…The response of the Indian peoples, no less than the conduct of their soldiers, makes a glorious final page in the story of our Indian Empire.’ To paint Churchill as an unapologetic racist, responsible for the Bengal famine is a gross distortion of history.
@copferthat Well said, sir 👏
If Churchill is disliked, Cromwell is absolutely hated.
Cromwell was more complex. He may be hated in Ireland, but he freed Britain from Royal tyranny and murder, and seen as a great parliamentary general and defender of religious freedom, except catholic agents and Jesuits in the pay of France and Spain.
@@History-jo3xd at least didn’t breed is people for export like de Verla did
Indeed. "To hell or to Connaught"
They both clowns n mouthpieces but we got rid of them ,never taut we'd win over them look at tem now no Steel or coal commenwelth broke their finished no loss just like tatcher gone
Well, as usual when you are dealing with the Irish they are always the victims. Do you think Cromwell invaded for the fun of it? Ireland were sending an army of 10,000 men to join the King in an English civil war, to determine who ruled England. They can't complain when England returns the favour. What is with the micks, always seeking martyrdom
He sent the Black and Tans with permission to do what they liked, which they did.
He sent the Auxiliaries not the Black & Tans.
@@neilodonohoe3841 Both were sent. The Black and Tans were constables attached to the RIC, the Auxiliaries were a counter-insurgency force.
The Back and Tans developed a reputation due to their behaviour and reprisals on the civilian population. Summary executions were common, as was the burning of houses, villages and even cities such as Cork. This was tacitly condoned by the British Establishment including Churchill.
@@neilodonohoe3841
He sent both. The Black and Tans were recruited as Constables to help the RIC. The Auxiliaries were a counter-insurgency force. The Black and Tans were notorious for their brutality which they applied with impunity which was approved by Churchill et. al. Houses, farm and business premises, as well as villages and towns and cities such as Cork were burned to the ground. Murder of the civilian population was common and done with impunity. Hence the hatred of Churchill in Ireland.
@neilodonohoe3841 who were the specials was that not another shower off killers
The Black and Tans were sent to deal with the brutal, sadistic, uncaring IRA and when they began to treat the IRA like the IRA have always treated everybody else, they didn't like it and switched to their victimhood status.
Churchill remains a hated ( not divisive) figure not only in Ireland, but in any part of the world where imperialism is relentlessly pursued.
The older I get (and I'm quite old) the more it gladdens my heart to have seen Britain's overbearing, belligerent presence visibly shrink over the years, Churchill, and Britain, are largely irrelevant to the younger generation in Ireland, apart from the 6 counties of Ulster, which is a work in progress. Long may that trend continue. That being said, Churchill is definitely on Ireland's historical sh*t list, along with Cromwell, Trevelyan, Lord John Russell, Maggie Thatcher.........ah well I'll leave it there.
Well said,it was an ignorant pig
You could have added some West Brits like John Nelson Darby. More trouble caused there than ever seems possible. It even links into US groupings vis a vis the ME
Churchill was an alcoholic and I believe this affected his judgement ,not just as regards Ireland but the world.
World War 11 was won by Russian blood ,at least 20 million dead .
All the "Battle of Britain " hype is a load of bollox.And anyway the best pilots in that particular part of the war weren't British but Czech and Polish airmen who knew how to fly a plane.
... also five pound Vicky. A pox upon their memories!
i agree completely The Irish people suffered ,mass murders rapes and torture comitted by the Blackntans.in Ireland just like many of their ilk before them. WC sent in these brave boys to Ireland they were the equal of any Nazi Murderer. so Fuck Churchill. i hope he is still burning in Hell
He's disliked in Wales too for his behaviour as Home Secretaryv when he sent troops to quell a miner's strike. We booed him as children when he appeared on the news in the Saturday matinee.
More fantasy
Diolch
How could an Irish person but despise Churchill. He never did anything good for us. I could never see him as a hero.
And if he was still alive I'm sure he'd be really upset
@@copferthat I’d like to think so.
@@Kodakcompactdisc And if he hadn't led the Brits to victory the Nazis would have used us as a stepping stone to wipe Ireland off the face of the earth. He sent money to the IRA you know but the IRA naturally just took it and spent it on themselves which humiliated and incensed Hitler and he swore to annihilate Ireland. Fortunately for you Britain was in his way
Not just the Irish, right-thinking people everywhere should despise him as one of the most evil men in history.
You are insane ! Imagine if Russia had been in charge of Ireland, honestly how many would have survived the enormous murders of the czars like as happened in the Ukraine? Churchill ? Not in their league!
@@edwardfrostickblois4191 Churchill used to write letters to mussolini he coverd up for the traitor king Edward after the war he said leave the wounded behind at Dunkirk he didn't give a flying f about the 2.500 yanks killed at pearl harbour he was jumping for joy the yanks were in the war to bail him out
In what way?
@@copferthat everyway
@@copferthat Think Tonypandy 1910, Liverpool 1911, Russia 1920, the Dardanelles 1915, Dieppe raid 1942, Greece, the Bengal Famine for a start. Changing parties twice? His modern position as all-purpose saint is largely a result of the Falklands and Thatcher. Prior to that he was very much a divisive figure. Enemy of the working class and "imperial subjects". Entitled aristocrat and imperialist. Not for him war time rationing - had to have his champagne, brandy and cigars.
My Welsh neighbours loathed him for sending troops to the strikes.
Which strikes?
My father , who was Irish, a Republican and a socialist hated him too for sending the Black & Tans to Ireland and for putting troops on the streets during the 1926 general strike.
@@thepopesmokesdope6774
He just hated him. he didn't need a reason.
My grandfather hated him too . He was a striking miner at the time
One of the big differences between Churchill and Roosevelt was Churchill's insistence that the maintenance of the British empires was one of the goals of WWII. Ireland, of course, had its independence by then (except for the 6 counties under British domination). but India was a major bone of contention between Churchill and Roosevelt. Empire was key to Churchill.
Yes, it was Empire. He was a 19th century man, he grew up under all the pomp and ceremony of Victorian Empire. He was no commoner, he was an aristocrat, and even though he used Parliament during war, the war allowed him pretty much to rule as a single entity on behalf of his King. He didn't fight the war to save the peoples of Europe, his goal was Empire. It's not to say he was naïve and could not see the writing on the wall for the British Empire, even in victory - needing the US would humble any delusions he might have still held in that department -, but in his heart he believed in destiny and in a world after the war when the Empire might regain lost territory, power and influence. His mind never left the 19th Century.
In his cabinet meetings during the War Roosevelt always regarded the British Empire as the man economic enemy of the US since they blocked American trade with the colonies. According to some reports Roosevelt consistently referred to Churchill himself as "the old drunk."
@@wewhofly Churchill was an aristocrat. A man who suffered the burden and dangers of soldiering from the Sudan, India, Afghanistan, South Africa, and the trenches of the Western Front. Yes, you deduced correctly an officer born in the Victorian era was proud of the British Empire and the system of governance it established in the world that survives to the present day. Churchill sought to defend all peoples of the Empire. He defended Indians in South Africa and condemned the Jallianwala Bagh massacre. In 1935 he told Gandhi’s friend Ghanshyam Das Birla that he supported the movement and was saddened by his later murder. India was vital for Churchill in his eye as Britain needed a base to defend its interests in Asia. He vehemently praised the contribution of the Indian army during the war.
@erichstocker8358 The UK would have divested itself of its empire.
You don't just walk away. You have to ensure that responsible people are going to govern the country when you have left.
Sadly, some of the people who came after were wanting to say the least.
@@SuperMikado282 You attribute a thoughtfulness to the Brits for which there is no evidence. When they did divest themselves of India in 1947 they did so with the most irresponsible haste imaginable resulting in one millions deaths and 10 to 20 millions displaced.
My granny referred to him as the warmonger
@@tonycarton8054 do you think he should have sued for peace with Nazi Germany after the fall of France, allowing Europe to remain under German occupation and genocide for the indefinite future?
Yes, he understood war and he understood nazism, well before the rest of the world cottoned on. Ireland should be grateful to him, for without him we most certainly would have lost the war and after the Nazis had conquered Britain, where do you think they would head next?
Most of your interpretation of Irish history is make believe. Churchill was no friend of Northern Ireland .He refused to defend it during the formative years by letting terrorists raiders from the south cross the border to murder and plunder .He also would have handed Northern Ireland to the south in exchange for the use of the Atlantic ports during WW2.
@@Les-d1n Churchill was the right man in the right place at the right time and you should thank all your gods he was
@@copferthat Why would he have been interested in Ireland considering we had nothing of value?
I wonder why the Irish did not welcome the leader of an occupying country?
Because their own government offered condolences to Germany upon the death of Adolf Hitler.
@@monarchist1838 I'm sure the Irish government offered condolences on the death of the King also, and probably the death of Churchill as well. What British people and Churchill in particular failed to understand is that when a jackboot is standing on your neck, it matters very little to you whether that boot is German or British. The British seem to think the British boots are somehow softer and leave less of a mark on your neck than German ones, and that because the invading army spoke English, "Well they must be on the side of the good guys". I can assure you that from an Irish perspective, there was precious little difference between the British and the German forces at the time. Both would have been invading armies, and we had already had the British variety and it was every bit as nasty as the German kind would have been. Think on it like this. As a proud Irishman, I and the entire nation of Ireland speak English as our first language, NOT our own language, Irish. That's just one legacy of British rule in Ireland. Would it really have been so different had we ended up speaking German?
@@philtheugli Do you think Britain would have set up concentration camps in Ireland to systematically slaughter Jews, minorities, and other ‘undesirables’? Tell, would Hitler have granted Irish independence or would he have unleashed a monumental retribution? Exterminating entire communities as he did in occupied Western Europe and Russia? At the end of the day, Churchill fought for democracy. British democracy helped bring about the creation of the Irish Free State, and preservation of democracy in Europe. I remind you Churchill didn’t punish the men of Southern Ireland who fought in the British Army to destroy fascism, unlike the Irish Government who ostracised 5,000 surviving Irishmen who battled the forces of Nazism. The were formally dismissed from previous roles in the Irish army, stripped of all pay and pension rights, and prevented from finding work by being banned for seven years from any employment paid for by state or government funds. The Dail would subsequently pass a starvation order in the form of a list of these men to bar them from certain occupations. They never got an apology until 2013.
@@monarchist1838 you should remember that Irish nationalists and Irish republicans are as brainwashed as Putin’s supporters.
@@monarchist1838 Britain did set up concentration camps in South Africa so why even ask that question?. The thing of " Ireland would have been much worse under Germany" is a lame excuse.
Churchill fanned the flames of sectarian hatred and division in Ireland with inevitable consequences for Ireland and the demise of the Empire.
Divide and Rule 😢
@@desmneylon prody pisshead
The only people who fanned the flames of sectarian hatred in Ireland were the Irish themselves.
@@andyb.1026Rule what? An impoverished backwater that kowtowed to the Vatican.
Until quite recently as well.
Impoverished backwater, welcome aboard England 🤣🤣🤣😋
Churchill tried to deny India independence too!!
Ireland was the country that brought down the Empire with its heroic resistance.
I reckon the Boers put a crack or two in the dam as well but the fatal blow was on Easter Monday 1916.
Ireland is being re colonized by the Anglo/American establishment that set up the UN/WEF...
Ireland needs to wake up!!!
@@robertbryson4576
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@@phillipsugwas Look at the mess the British left there with another cynical partition, and that wa just a handful of years after the famine Churchill was instrumental in causing. We Irish recognised the same old ploy the British establishment used in Ireland.
Let the Irish starve whilst exporting shiploads of food from there throughout the years of potato crop failure.
@@robertbryson4576How could Winston Churchill, born 1874, be instrumental in causing the famine of the 1840s?
Churchill was lucky to have lived in the time of Hitler and Stalin, the made him look less of a war criminal.
Yet Churchill fought to preserve democracy.
@monarchist1838 Wrong. He fought to preserve the Empire. He didn't care that much for democracy. In the 1950s Churchill authorized concentration camps in Kenya, only 7 years after the Russian army freed Auschwitz.
it's well known that hitler made unofficial contact with churchill to stop the 2nd world war in its early stages ( i think about 1941 ). Churchill wouldnt let go, couldnt imagine a future where Hitler wasnt obliterated...if he had chosen the path of peace we would have had no D-Day carnage, no millions murdered no jewish holocaust ...all because Churchill, the warmonger, had to have his way
He bigger tramp tan Hitler at least Hitler not drunk every day lik him fat drunk slob !!!
@@monarchist1838He only fought to save his own ass.
I am neither Irish nor British. Churchill undoubtedly played a key role in holding back the Nazis in WWII, but what he and the British Government did in Ireland, above all the partition and the anti-Catholic stance that bordered on religious apartheid, were unpardonable actions. The fact that WC had an Irish mother only makes those decisions more evil. This doc takes a mellowing approach that I find untruthful, to say the least: I doubt very much that WC mourned Michael Collins' demise, but must have been very relieved to see such a commanding opponent out of the battle. The very democracy that the UK and WC so famously claimed to fight for was contradicted in Ireland with repression, brutality, torture, and excessive use of the military for purposes other than defense. If I were Irish I would find it very tough to forgive WC.
What I like most about this site is all the comments showing there’s no more grievance and we're all friends now. 😃
As viceroy of Ireland, Churchill's grandfather, the Duke of Marlborough, inhabited what is now Áras an Uachtaráin. Churchill's father, Lord Randolph, served as the Duke's secretary and from age two until age six, Churchill lived in Dublin.
During World War II, what later became the Republic of Ireland was now officially neutral and independent from the UK. However, over 80,000 Irish-born men and women (north and south) joined the British armed forces, with between 5,000 and 10,000 being killed during the conflict. History is strange , it now looks like Britain can't govern itself . What would he make of Brexit ?????????????
Well, he might laugh at the notion that Ireland is not now again part of an Empire. Never forget, majority Irish sympathy and empathy was not with the men of 1916 UNTIL they began to be executed; and it was a newspaper called the 'Irish Independent' that was most vociferous in opposition to the men of 1916. And on to today? Criticise the GREAT EU and you are deemed..... well, you know the list of words. History IS strange. You are absolutely right. It repeats and repeats and history students themselves resist the urge to see it repeating. Because, of course, politics is a much stronger force than history. All men become blind in politics.
@@wewhofly complete nonsense. The Irish people's views were never consulted by anyone including the Norman Irish media until after 1918. The Irish electorate jumped 5 xs in 1918. That was when democracy was born in Ireland.
Which means that in all previous elections less than 20% of the Irish people had a vote. The media catered exclusively to that 20% and was dominated by Norman and Anglo Irish papers in the 26 counties and by Unionists in the 6.
80% of the Irish electorate were voiceless and had been since 1169.
The Catholic church was also run largely by Norman or Norman sympathy bishops.
Lazy Irish historians have repeated this ahistorical nonsense about who supported what in 1916 based on the views of the Norman/Anglo Irish media such as the so called Irish independent owned by the very Norman William Martin Murphy. Who was educated in Belvedere College; one of the hallowed private schools for the Norman Irish.
No self respecting Corkman would ever be educated in a private school in Dublin unless he was a Norman through and through.
May I further remind you that thus was during wartime when in any event frank reporting of views contrary to the British government was illegal.
@@fiachramaccana280 "Democracy was born." 5 million people in an Empire of 450 million. We don't even control our own tax system anymore and get fined when we disobey orders from Brussels. Believe the idealistic poetry and songs if you wish. At least the Belvedere 'Dublin Elite' crowd and self-respecting Corkmen now agree with each other - you all worship the new god, EU. Every cloud.....
@@wewhofly and whoever wasted money on your education should get a refund. Ireland like every EU member has a veto on every proposals. Its a club where all members must agree. Even a 5 year old knows that.
Refund!! Demand a refund!!!! you were robbed!!!!!
@@wewhofly and if ye dont like it sod off to the England of yer Norman ancestors.... you will be happy dere with yer own kind dumpster diving and living in filth...
In Bengal he is seen as the mass murderer he was there.
The man was a Villian
Churchill was a person who saw England first and all others as lesser. He opposed decolonisation to the detriment of those colonies and the UK's relationship with them. He was also a poor military taction being responsible for the Dardanelles campaign in WW1 and misadventures in WW2. Ireland was supposed to get home rule in 1914 but WW1 scuppered that. I wouldn't be surprised if Churchill was a leading voice in the deferment argument.
@simonlitten he s a half breed half yank isn't he not the full english
You have to take the Dardanelles in context. Here we are, locked tight on the western front, thousands dying every week in the most appalling meat grinder for not a yard of land. Somebody had to try something different and the Dardanelles was a sound idea executed badly. Following it he left office and went to serve on the front line. Over 30 times he went off into no man's land at night. You can say what you like about the man from the comfort of your armchair but he was a very courageous soldier and had served in more wars than his own generals of WW2
@@DavidBroadley-tw7ks And you're not a full shilling
Churchill and Cromwell 2 shithouses
@@copferthat sod off
My grandad, from Glasgow, with Irish heritage, fought overseas for six years of WWII. He despised Churchill. All of his comrades did. They understood he was a power-hungry simpleton. Typical of the landed gentry.
it's well known that hitler made unofficial contact with churchill to stop the 2nd world war in its early stages ( i think about 1941 ). Churchill wouldnt let go, couldnt imagine a future where Hitler wasnt obliterated...if he had chosen the path of peace we would have had no D-Day carnage, no millions murdered no jewish holocaust ...all because Churchill, the warmonger, had to have his way
Uve got it pal and your grandad 👏👏
@@DavidBroadley-tw7ks
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churchill practiced in wales (tonypandy) in 1910 he sent in the army to surpress the welsh miners .he hated al the non english of the british isles
He hated working class people in England too. As Home Secretary he sent troops into Liverpool to attack striking workers.
The Army were sent to back up the police when rioters became violent. Troops did not enter into any action. Wise up on your history.
Yes, Welsh miners destroying Welsh businesses, terrifying Welsh citizens, promising to flood Welsh mines with there hundreds of horses in them and after the strikers beat up enough Welsh coppers, the Welsh council pleaded with Churchill to send in troops. Your kind are addicted to victimhood.
@@MrConan89 Yes, and on a plea from the Welsh politicians and police themselves,
Churchill was an arch enemy of Irish indepenednce and nothing more to us in Ireland.than that. He was also a good friend to Stalin because he recognised in Stalin, a counter-revolutionary to Bolshevism. I like this video because it trys to speak honestly about the world's greatest evil, the British empire.
British empire evil?, wait until the Albanians and others form ranks all young fighting men ....ya seen nothing yet
An empire the Irish have contributed handsomely to.
@@copferthat You can say that if you take the view, which you apparently do, that the slaves also contribute handsomely to the slaveholder's power and wealth. Ireland was enslaved by the British empire and fought against it. Do you not know that?
@@mikki3562 I know that. The Brits are accused of enslaving the world, by one person or another and as my post below states, they could not have done that without the Irish. Take a bow
Churchill used to write letters to mussolii he admired him he also covered up for the traitor king Edward after the war
After 800 years of British tyranny, how the hell could Ireland suddenly fight alongside Britain? Also, the US stood by too after Churchill begging and begging them to engage and give arms and the US told Britain to pee off. But Churchill hadn't a bad word to say about the US. I wonder why?
He s half yank isn't he
@vinstyles What utter uninformed nonsense you post.
The Irish quite happily fought along with the British for the Empire and during WW1 and WW2.
There were several Irish regiments, and the Irish distinguished themselves in the Royal Navy and Air Force.
The U.S.A did not tell Britain to pee off and was hampered by neutrality laws and popular isolation issues.
Presumably, you would have liked to have seen Europe ruled by the Nazis.
@@SuperMikado282many irish bought into the propaganda and joined the British armed forces during both world wars, but that doesn't mean there isn't popular support for irish neutrality in Ireland. Thousands joined the war effort, millions refused
Wasn't he half American?
@@SDMcC1916 Millions? The population of Ireland was very small at that time.
God save Ireland 🇮🇪
This was an exceptionally insightful view of Churchill and Ireland. As an Irishman, I despise the man with his absolute distain for the Irish people. I do however acknowledge his important contribution to Western civilization when not caving in to pressure from the nazi elements of brit "upper classes"
Sounds like he was the Netanyahu of his day.
Is there a greater compliment?
He caused untold misery worldwide. Great speaker though and writer. I read his book on the second world war in eigth grade. It was excellent. I tried to read Mein Kampf at that time to see how it motivated people to such crazed devotion. It was terrible, couldn't, slough through it. It did prepare me for today and how its possible to capture the souls of a people.
Churchill did not write his own speeches... during the war Professor Lindemann otherwise known as Lord Cherwell
managed Churchill. Churchill was a member of the 'Milner' roundtable and is as responsible for both world wars
as anyone else... Everything about Britain was put there by the State not the British people including the church...
From the Reformation...built on a foundation of hatred.. Churchill only protected that version of Britain!
Britain was set up as an exact opposite to the church in Rome...its all fake and its all based on historical lies and people's assumptions...
The truth is and always has been the opinion of the powerful. Britain never stood alone...that's propaganda at work...the US were already building up power with the intention of being involved... so to the Soviets.
It took two world wars to stop Germany becoming an economic superpower and threatening the Anglo/American dominance.
The reason the 2nd war went so long was because the Soviets did not cut off Germany's only rich crude oil supply.
In doing so the war would have ended by Christmas 1941 and we didn't want that!
History is a matrix of mind control just look at how it triggers the left.
Yes , Churchill was a great Public Relations guy ,he would have made a fortune on Madison Ave. in the advertising business!!
Churchill was an alcoholic bum who had a taste for the high life and had his debts paid for by wealthy benefactors.....the amounts concerned put Starmer's recent donations in the realms of triviality.
@@joekavanagh8997 He practised continuously in front of the mirror throughout the night, relaying drafts to his secretaries who had to read it back to him. He then revised his former scripts until complete. They weren't fluid or enate. Like Hitler, it was propaganda but unlike the Bohemian corporal he was perpetually sozzled as Hitler didn't touch alcohol.
Yox465 Aesop was another good writer of fables. He damned himself with his boast, "I know history will be good to me, I shall write it myself. "
Not just in ireland a lot off places he was despised
And worshipped in a multitude of places for the freedom he helped give them. Europe worshipped him and wherever he went he was mobbed by truly grateful peoples
@@DavidBroadley-tw7ks The Irish despise each other. They have disputes and never speak to each other again.
@@copferthat he was a sectarian racist c--t
Yes , churchill was a see u nxt tue.
Well done. Good straight history. My Irish father hated him. I know him for WW II, after which I was born, and I admired him for that. So not real popular in Ireland or India. He did not want to see the end of the British Empire. We’ll both he and it are gone.
I remember reading somewhere that during the war, when he appeared on Pathe news in Dundee picture houses, he was roundly booed.
Totally missed out on gallipoli disaster for the irish regiments
What are the Irish doing there then?
The annihilation of the Redmondites. Home Rule, died at Gallipoli too.
Churchill sent the troop ship Antrim up the Mersey to menace striking workers in the 1911 transport workers dispute in which workers were shot dead..💀
killed 2 and injured 300 in liverpool, the two lads were killed on scotty road, a very irish area in liverpool
I just finished readin "precipice" by Robert Harris, a book put together by reading the Diaries of Margot Asquith, HH Asquiths Wife, the diarys of Asquith's mistress and ofe the asquiths children, so all in all fairly representative of the time. In it, Churchill comes across as a war hungry individual. he was warned not to attack the turks in the south of turkey by Admiral Fisher, but refused to listen and walked tens of thousands into an ambush, his idea of warfare seems to be "it's not my blood". A vicious bloodthirsty scheeming individual.
Sir Henry Strakosch was paying the bankrupt soak to start a war with Germany. The files were released in the noughties. Historians are remarkably incurious about who employed Strakosch as their bagman.
it's well known that hitler made unofficial contact with churchill to stop the 2nd world war in its early stages ( i think about 1941 ). Churchill wouldnt let go, couldnt imagine a future where Hitler wasnt obliterated...if he had chosen the path of peace we would have had no D-Day carnage, no millions murdered no jewish holocaust ...all because Churchill, the warmonger, had to have his way
Churchill did not attend the funeral of Michael Collins.
That was the only thing that shocked me in this video. If he did attend he would have had to have a platoon of bodyguards!
I thought the video said Churchill eulogized Collins and this doesn't mean he attended the funeral because you csn eulogize from far.
Both sides in the civil war would have killed him😂
LOL.
@@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935They wouldn't have had the courage to.
Yes Churchill was a dog of war.
We all have read numerous books and have seen the movie Schindler’s List depicting the horrors of the holocaust in which six million perished yet I don’t recall seeing any film depicting the Bengal famine in India in which three million starved to death which was result of Churchill’s decision to commandeer all the food for the British Army fighting the Japanese.When England declared war on Germany in 1914 the wife of prime minister Asquith recalled seeing Churchill beaming with joy in number 10 as everyone else present were saddened and in a state of disbelief.Churchill revealed his true colours in a post war interview when he stated that it mattered not if a Jesuit Priest had been in charge in Germany instead of Hitler “We would have had to attack them for the same reason that we did in WW 1 ie because they were becoming to strong. Churchill made a secret speech to parliament stating that the survival of Britain as a world power depended on no continental power becoming stronger than them.
it's well known that hitler made unofficial contact with churchill to stop the 2nd world war in its early stages ( i think about 1941 ). Churchill wouldnt let go, couldnt imagine a future where Hitler wasnt obliterated...if he had chosen the path of peace we would have had no D-Day carnage, no millions murdered no jewish holocaust ...all because Churchill, the warmonger, had to have his way
Absolute rubbish. Read a history book.
The Bengal famine was caused by the failure of the monsoon rains.
Burma had made up losses in the past, but that was unobtainable because the Japanese had overrun Burma and wanted the rice for themselves.
British troops would not have eaten rice.
@@thomascochrane4922Exactly 💯
Pretty brutal from an Irish perspective
My aunts best friend had their farmhouse burnt down by the black and tans because they lived in a place close to where an incident occurred during the war of independence.
He’s hated in Wales too !
Don't talk through your arse
War criminal.
HE IS NOT. HITLER AND STALIN ARE
your right
@@itseamuscallan7004 how? He helped preserve democracy and human rights in Europe. He could have thrown in the towel after Dunkirk but did not. The world owes a debt to our famous PM.
@@monarchist1838 u clearly are incapable of any empathy for Irish people or the mass murders rapes and torture comitted by thje Blackntans.in Ireland just like many of their ilk before them. WC sent in these brave boys to Ireland they were the equal of any Nazi Murderer. so Fuck Churchill, and u along with him . i hope he is still burning in Hell
@@monarchist1838He left the 51st highland division on the beaches at St Valerie to the fate of the Germans. They were the last to get to the beaches after holding back the German army while the rest were rescued only to find that the last of the rescue boats had left for England.
Churchill . A 20th Century Oliver Cromwell
2 shithouses
An utterly pathetic statement
There's some pretty ignorant and stupid comments on here from some pretty ignorant and stupid people but I think you just might be the best example
@@copferthat Can you Give Me a Reason for Your Answer Please. After all the Video above is about his role in the Troubles in Ireland.
@@anthonylyons9810 Right, for a start the Irish are addicted to victimhood. Let's start with Cromwell. Here we have a leader in an ENGLISH civil war but then the Irish promise the King an army of 10,000. What has an English civil war got to do with Ireland? You know, interference, a word that pops up every time an Irishman opens his mouth. You interfered in England and Cromwell then interfered with Ireland. To connect Churchill to Cromwell is an act of sheer malice or sheer stupidity, or both. What do they possibly have in common? You are talking about a man who did more to save the world than any other against the true evil of Nazism and without Churchill Britain would have fell and just where do you think Hitler would have gone next? He'd have wiped you lot out as a sub species. Did you know he sent a small fortune to the IRA to fight Britain and naturally they just stole it, after all they were a criminal organisation and Hitler was incensed by them and promised to wipe them out when he got to Ireland. He would have wiped Ireland out with them, so just thank you lucky stars Britain didn't take the neutral route out of trouble like you did.
"To make Ireland Hell for the IRA to operate in!"
That was his justification for the Black & Tans and the Auxies.
SADLY MANY OF THE BLACK AND TANS WERE CATHOLIC!!!!
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I heard stories that were handed down about the Black and Tans, so called because of the color of their uniforms. To see them marching on a road was to feel fear. A lot of them were thugs and behaved like thugs; throwing an elderly grandfather out of bed onto the floor with his mattress in their search for weapons.
@@johndooley5482Just the tan ones????
It was your RIC GARDAI who got CHURCHILL to send in the BLACK AND TANS don't put all the blame on him
The black and tans were ruthless barbaric nutters who murdered plenty of Irish men women and children. When they finally met a foe who was as ruthless as they were they cry foul
The people of Ireland have suffered terribly under British rule . History is complex ; villains and heroes are easy to see with hindsight .
Churchill has limited regard or approval within Australia, also. After Australian & New Zealand Divisions had fought against Rommel’s Army, they returned to Australia - fortunately on a United States Ship. Churchill wanted them taken to Burma, where they would have faced a disaster. Franklin D. Roosevelt advised the Ship’s Captain to follow advice from Curtin, Australia’s P.M. After WW2, Churchill did not visit Australia - he would not have been welcomed in a friendly way.
Ye mean ye didn't appreciate being told to run repeatedly at machine gun nests with no cover and armed only with Lee Enfields? How ungrateful.
I know many Australians are proud to part of the commonwealth but 100% you were better off dealing with the Yanks, they would be more straightforward and honest with Australia than duplicate Britain would ever be.
@@fintanotoole3514 Unbelievable, you were British citizens, every Australian had the right to live in Britain. Every Australian descended from Britain or Ireland, you are and remain kith and kin.
copferthat
It's not the oeople of Britain, it's the elites of Britain, the aristocracy that can't be trusted, Churchills class. Look, how, Philby was allowed to escape, regardless of the huge damage he did to Brirain, to the West, to Ametica. It didn't matter. They are a treacherous group which many have had to find out the hard way, much to their detriment and pain.
Its not the people who are duplicate at all.
It's not the oeople of Britain, it's the elites of Britain, the aristocracy that can't be trusted, Churchills class. Look, how, Philby was allowed to escape, regardless of the huge damage he did to Brirain, to the West, to Ametica. It didn't matter. They are a treacherous group which many have had to find out the hard way, much to their detriment and pain.
Its not the people who are duplicate at all.
iam english my grandfather hated Churchill wouldn't have his name mentioned in h is house
Pity you didn't have the intelligence to find out why?
@copferthat grandfather hated Churchill because of the wall street crash in 29 he was a bricklayer and there was no work the government were going to help poeple with money ect Churchill was against and made a long speach against it my grandfather lost everything became homeless blamed Churchill for it
@@petew5289 The Wall Street crash! what the feck are you on about.
@copferthat the wall st crash caused the markets to crash nobody was building houses firms were were going bust there was no work for bricklayers or any other construction workers and in the 1930s there was no welfare state ie dole no nhs if you didn't have a job you were fucked if you had morgage the house was reposesed if you rented you got evicted for not paying Churchill stopped any goverment funded help for people out of work
When I see statues of Winston Churchill, I feel nothing but disgust. Period. He was an absolutely dreadful human being.
@@edwardcroghan5375 something for the pigeons to shit on and Cromwell s stat
it's well known that hitler made unofficial contact with churchill to stop the 2nd world war in its early stages ( i think about 1941 ). Churchill wouldnt let go, couldnt imagine a future where Hitler wasnt obliterated...if he had chosen the path of peace we would have had no D-Day carnage, no millions murdered no jewish holocaust ...all because Churchill, the warmonger, had to have his way
He killed many GB citizens when home Secretary. My grandfather was shot at by the army (Worcs Reg) in Llanelli. He (Churchill) was hated and known as a fascist. Strange he is now known as an anti fascist leader.
If your grandfather was shot there was a reason for it, so what was it?
Churchill was a viscous class warrior on the side of the elite- he was a snob and an incompetent military leader- remember he was kicked out after the slaughter of WWII
@Albert-k1b yes he was - read history
Ah, speling error, I see what you meen!
And I thought he was Knighted here and bestowed with a hundred honours and decorations from the nations of Europe. How ignorant I must have been?
Churchill sent British soldiers into liverpool killed 2 and injured 300 in the transport strike..
liverpool will always welcome the irish as most are families.
Churchill was a fat mess
Victimhood has been honed into a science by the scousers
He was not particularly loved in Australia either. There are lots of Aussies of Irish descent and others who were told through family and trade union education about his role in Ireland and the suppression of workers in the UK. He threw lives away in the failed Galipoli campaign. Then in WW2 , he refused to cooperate with our Prime minister , Curtin who wanted troops returned to Australia for national defence after the fall of Singapore. Churchill at times refusing to provide adequate naval escorts for troop ships retuning from the Middle East and then attempting to divert them to Burma. He never had anything but contempt for the colonies and the dominions.
A horrible man with his Black and Tans 😡
Yes and those black and tans were very naughty with those cuddly members of the IRA, Sunday school teachers to a man.
Churchill viewed the Irish as Untermensch (sub human ) like Hitler viewed the Slavs. Always fascinated me that arch Colonist Churchill was the Architect of the downfall of the Empire and the UK by saddling Britain with so much debt in ww2. If he accepted Hitlers peace offer after Dunkirk the empire may have lasted into the 70's. and a lot of British and colonial soldiers would have lived.
what? and sent the Nazis in to subjugate Ireland. Are you fucking real?
HA! I've read some fecking almighty shite on this thread but that above is in a class of it's own.
@@lawLess-fs1qx you speak with the intellectual vacuity of an Irish Republican. In the UK we do not use or recognise the term untermensch about anyone.
There wouldn't be a British empire without the Irish, the army was full of them and did they care who they killed? Hatred of Britain has never gone as far as making the Irish stay at home and not emigrate to England, in their millions for a better life.
The ones who emigrate there obviously don't hate ye. They don't speak for the rest of us and unfortunately for ye our minds can't be changed for a few shillings.
Bit of a clueless statement, "as making the Irish stay at home"
They could join the British army in Ireland they didn't have to go anywhere. If you didn't realise it the British army occupied Ireland.
You are one blissful happy person, well done.
@@Steve-gr6jmYe hate each other as much as ye hate the British which includes Scottish and Welsh people.
@@fintanotoole3514The British army was not big enough to occupy Ireland. Britain relied on the Royal Navy for protection as befits an island nation.
It never had a large standing army.
@@SuperMikado282 please inform us, what would you call it?
What the British army was doing in Ireland.
The "BLACK AND TANS" come to mind...
Both grandfather's fought for the British during the first war, the paternal grandad, s medals I still have.
Tans.
No not tans, just hard working class Belfast (short strand) men with family's to feed!!
You should be proud of him
Ireland went from a British colony to a colony of the Vatican. They spent the first 50 years of independence being ruled by the Roman church.
Ruled is an understatement. The abuse of children has been catastrophic. It's only being addressed now. They think 1 in 4 people in ireland were abused.... 1 in 4 as a conservative estimate.
I suggest you rewatch the video!
But you’re partially correct! Ireland never shook off the yoke of British control until joining the EEC and cutting links with sterling!
This along with later taking power away from the Catholic Church has allowed the state to prosper!
Doing pretty well for a young nation I would say!
We adore the Latin Rite.
As should you.
And now run by Brussels/Berlin
@@GrahamCahill-uj3sc the 2nd most globalised country in the world and reaping the benefits!
Wrongly seen as a a war hero, Churchill was a dreadful man.
We shall fight them on the beaches we shall fight them on the sreets , what he really meant was you shall fight them on the beaches you shall fight them on the sreets , I`ll have buggered off to America if it comes to that.
Have you ever read a biography of him? Thought not
@@copferthat no doubt full of dubious history.
@@pambromley7481 If there is a gold medal for utterly pathetic replies, I'm nominating you
Churchill sent the black and tans to Ireland. This immediately categorized him as a total scumbag until the end of time.
The narrator is excellent
Didn't you notice that it's AI..
@@kingofceltsalso a very skimpy look at the very complicated history with wildly inappropriate and stupid images …why do these things get made? And why do I end up watching them??
Good AI, sort of _David Attenborough lite._
I don't like this AI clone of David Attenborough because it falsely suggests Attenborough's credibility.
He closed all the industrial schools in the UK. He tried to get the industrial schools closed in Ireland. So did David Lloyd Gerorge. So did Edward Carson. The Irish Catholic church wouldn't have it and egged on the Irish to fight for independence.
Himself and Hitler are of equal standing in Irish 👀
That's untrue.
Well you loved Hitler so that must mean you hold Winston Churchill in high esteem.
@@joemdee it's well known that hitler made unofficial contact with churchill to stop the 2nd world war in its early stages ( i think about 1941 ). Churchill wouldnt let go, couldnt imagine a future where Hitler wasnt obliterated...if he had chosen the path of peace we would have had no D-Day carnage, no millions murdered no jewish holocaust ...all because Churchill, the warmonger, had to have his way
That says everything I'm sure Hitler would have been very nice in Ireland as he was in Poland, Holland etc Deluded!
Don't know what you're talking about
He was nothing but a bully didnt he see a million idians starve to death was no better than the austrian bully that done likewise in ww2
No he wasn’t. No he didn’t. No he couldn’t have possibly been. Please try and read a book. They offer lots of real insight into actual history.
@@antoniafenech8279fact he was a terrorist of his time maybe you should read about the crimes he enforced on the innocent irish too
@@PatrickAhern-qb6xb it's well known that hitler made unofficial contact with churchill to stop the 2nd world war in its early stages ( i think about 1941 ). Churchill wouldnt let go, couldnt imagine a future where Hitler wasnt obliterated...if he had chosen the path of peace we would have had no D-Day carnage, no millions murdered no jewish holocaust ...all because Churchill, the warmonger, had to have his way
@@PatrickAhern-qb6xb No, I suggest you do and put away you big bumper book of Irish gripes and victimhood claims
Churchill was tyrant and a war monger just ask the people of India and Pakistan
Brendan it was when the British left these countries that the wars started, same as in Ireland. If they hated the British so much why did the Irish not demolish Aras an Uactharan instead of moving in a President.....surely they would prefer that - or is it just a bit of constant whingeing. Wake up and be thankful look at your illegals now!!
Yes, why don't you
Your a tool
Sent the same Black and Tans to Palestine. 🇵🇸😡
You really have to wonder at times
Well, they were there before the Balfour Declaration in 1917, in fact they came from Palestine to Ireland in 1920.
Churchhill offered a unified island of Ireland if Ireland entered the war but Ireland refused because this wasn't the first time Britain offered Ireland its freedom it was back within the first world War.
No he never offered a United Ireland, he proposed an All-Ireland defence alliance, joint operational involvement in WW2 which he claimed would lead to unity, though N.I. parliament wasn't even consulted so it was never going to happen.
Yes, he did. To get his grubby hands on the treaty ports, he would have sold all the people in India for them. Dev rightly, (and he rarely got it right) definitely had Churchills measure, and his duplicitous nature was well known anyway by this stage, post treaty.
Remember, that 21st century clown boris, he modelled himself on Winston. A pale imitation yet who still could not open his mouth out lies rolling out. Shameful.
@@sean_d he offered it for the ports but De Valera wasn't having the drunken buffoon pull a fast one and have Ireland cities and ports bombed.
Propaganda worked, 90% of Irish people were not Au fait with Churchills hatred of the Irish and his revenge towards the Irish and even today most young people have no ideajust how deep that Hatred he had for the Irish, but the Irish have a long memory, the Irish didnt and dont hate the British , but we Irish do hate and despite a particular type of British usually aristocratic but jumped up "Hurray Henrys upper middle class ,mostly Churchill types who longed for their Empire, but that was then , the Nation he despised has shown his type that what they did to the Irish has come home to roost,
Ireland took their independence from Britain to unfortunately give it away to the EU. Will we ever learn.
Rubbish
Rubbish indeed. We freely joined, and could leave the EU tomorrow if we wanted, but 75-80% of the country think it's a good idea. I would rather be aligned with the EU (for all it's faults) than be dependent on the Brits for trade and currency, which is where we would be if we left the EU. NEVER AGAIN.
@@davidh6543ireland won't leave the EU because it's afraid to stand on it's own two feet
@@Michael-jy5rn Well we are in good company then, 25 other countries feel the same way. Even Hungary isn't stupid enough to flounce out of the EU and 'stand on their own two feet', whatever that idiotic phrase means in reality. Even poor old GB is sneaking around the EU, looking to be let off the hook, looking for concessions, and hoping nobody notices haha.
@davidh6543 well its like this brains of ireland that don't know What it means when I say stand on own two feet it seems the EU and it's dictator von der Lyon can't stand on there own two feet either when AMERICA says jump they say how high they EU is as corrupt as the come. Come to think of it your little IRELAND is one of the most corrupt country in EUROPE that why it has so much time for Ukraine
Churchill believed in English superiority - their right to have an empire as if it benefited the savage natives. Interesting how 800 years of English rule in Ireland had left them the 'poor man of Europe' but 100 years after independence, Ireland is the 'rich man of Europe' and doing far better than Britain.
I think that much of this narrative overstates Churchill’s role in Irish affairs, certainly before WW2. He was part of a government before WW1 which supported Home Rule. He was not the originator of the Black and Tans but was one member of a government which supported the policy. Similarly he is portrayed as chief architect of partition. Again, he was one member of the negotiating team under Lloyd George, and not one who had the final say. What is often missed out is consideration of the reaction of the Unionists had they been forced into a united Ireland. I would speculate that that would have resulted in a civil conflict more bloody than the Irish Civil War that ensued. Finally in the 1930s Churchill was completely out of government and not in a position to have any responsibility for the trade war. He was certainly an imperialist and a defender of empire but such positions were not exactly uncommon among British politicians in the first half of the 20th century.
I think your point about 'civil conflict' more bloody than the ICW might be on the right track but ultimately it would have been bettter for Ireland. It would have united the two strands of Irish republicanism against a common enemy and left a united Ireland in its wake with no brits on the island - or at least none who would care to oppose the will of the Irish people. More bloody but better in the long run without the open sore of apartheid Norn Iron.
He spent the first ten years of his life in Dublin I believe in the 1890s
1876-1880 in the Phoenix Park. Among the happiest years of his life he wrote!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratra_House
We will never forgive and never forget we will still have one day to play a trump card and that will make things even
Its who "we" are that counts here. If your "we" cannot cease to be " we and them " you are doomed to live a truncated existence.. Your choice.
He was an empire man, all beside the english were a lower class, in the end he lost the empire for ever, he was the man who gave away the pound sterling as world reserve currency to the US dollar at bretton woods in 1944 thus ending uk empire as it was, thats his real legacy, the man who lost the empire, he was the captain of the ship
Winston Churchill was born in Blenheim Palace, seat of his grandfather, the Duke of Marlborough became the Viceroy of Ireland. He was very familiar with the British, though from a lofty place. While he climbed the political ladder of power, he made many enemies. The Welsh and the Scots hated him for his brutal acts against his own countrymen, repressing the coal strikes. His record in India and Africa is no better, not to mention the Gallipoli disaster, just ask any Aussie about that. And Canadian troops sent to defend Hong Kong in WW2 just to save face. You must read « Winston Churchill, His Times, His Crimes ». Author Tariq Ali methodically tears down the myth using the man’s own words revealing how ‘history’ is manipulated to serve political purposes. Real history!
Author Tariq Ali? are you joking? The man detests all things British, including you, you naive idiot
He could write a shocking biography on Jesus Christ that pernicious tool
Churchilll is not hated. Dont forget many of us have families that moved to England and raised their own families there. I have black and bi racial family in England and they always find Ireland to be racist when they visit, and they unfortunately have been racially abused on a few occassions. I try to explain that reland isnt as diverse as England but when then you watch the news and see the way our peiple are treating immigrants! it really is shocking. We have been welcomed as immigrants by countries all over the world but, when the boot is on the other foot we are not so charitable.
Oh that old saw about how Britain stood alone against the Nazis. It would be better put that Britain "sat" against the Nazis and did as little as possible. The one who saved Europe was Stalin, while the UK and US took up the busywork of first North Africa and then Italy, neither of which had much impact on Germany's ability to carry on the war. Churchill himself was the biggest humbug of all. Of course, he wanted the Irish to fight for Britain. The British strategy in war was always to get someone else to do the fighting. He largely succeeded in WWII letting the Russians defeat the Germans and the Americans defeat the Japanese.
Dont forget the Indians who were conscripted first and sent to the trenches in their summer clothes to freeze to death. britain didnt win the war, it was fought by the citizens of her colonies, and russians britain just took the credit
Russia won the war in europe realy 27 million dead it cost them dearly
How did Britain stand alone they had a empire didn't they and look at the battle off Britain poles Czechs Canadians free French south Africans aussies and kiwis even a irishman flying spitfires and hurricanes
Well yeah, if you wanted a fascist Europe it would have been great if Britain had done absolutely nothing…depends on your objectives. Remember Stalin carved up half of Poland with Hitler. Germany quickly overran Europe…Britain was alone in Europe to continue that fight (with huge support from all over the place - vast numbers of Indians etc). If Britain had just given up, all the Nazi effort would have been put on annexing the Soviet Union. Without aid from the US it is hard a Soviet victory as inevitable. I know people don’t want to give Churchill or Britain any credit but to somehow think that WW2 would have ended successfully with only USSR vs Hitler is an enormous assumption. Instead it is the combination of those three allies together that defeated facism.
Uve got it mate Churchill in a nutshell
As an Irish National, I reckon we should be grateful to him for saving us from Hitler. How do you reckon Hitler would have treated the Irish? Don’t presume that everyone in Ireland hated Mr C. Not true!
Loser
The lack of vision for a united Island is such a shortcoming for the present. What does it take to sit down to negotiate this? Only Will. And there is no justification whatsoever which says" this can't be allowed to happen"?
Why is there no justification? You are extremely arrogant.
@@joemdee
I'm not too sure what point he's trying to make,
something about, only this lad Will can do the negotiations???
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Hated in Wales for sending troops to fire on miners inTonypandy.
Rubbish, the sending of troops is just socialist demonology and Churchill's actions in this have become ridiculously distorted. Tonypandy in reality is only distinguished from the other Welsh villages involved because of the high degree of looting in which the miners indulged. Churchill did not send troops, that is a socialist lie, he sent police on the request of the town's officials. Churchill was attacked at the time for NOT sending troops instead of police. The fairytale spreaders had even gone as far as saying Churchill had sent tanks in, but considering they had not been invented at the time, I think that might just be another shovel full of bullshit to add to the rest.
Grow up
Churchill is loved in Northern Ireland it was the rebels that split this Island not the Union never forget that.
Some people aren't born to kneel when England tells them to. And you don't speak for all of Northern Ireland anymore. Not even close.
Churchill, Cromwell, Henry VIII... British/English heroes who interfere in Ireland tend to be villains in Ireland's eyes!
They were villains not just in Ireland scotland and France as well
Yes they contradict the Irish victim narrative.
@@joemdee What "Irish victim" narrative?
@@Gillemear they shudnt have statue s and portrait s of these 3 murderers
They cudnt wait to get rid off Churchill after the war voted out he made loads off military mistakes as well he was happy when the japs bombed pearl harbour and the yanks were in the war to bail him out not giving a flying about the 2.500 yanks killed
The Brits God help them, you have to love 'em when they confuse the Irish flag with that of Cote d'Ivoire ( Ivory Coast)!
Did he attend Collins funeral ? I doubt it.
No, but they got on very well
Churchil not only divided India, but caused famine in Bengal in 1942.Hence, as a Bengali, I think that for the Bengalis,he was devil incarnate. Just like Cromwell, he enjoyed that Bengal perish.While, he enjoyed it,as he had engineerd, by storing all the food for the Brutish, British army, during the 2nd World War.
The British brought mass education to India and what do you do? Get a degree in historical bullshit. In October 1942, a cyclone struck Bengal and Orissa in British India, wiping out much of the rice crop in the region. Transportation of food and other resources were hindered as the British built southern railways were washed away. The cyclone threw part of the subcontinent’s weather system out of sync too ruining the normal winter harvest in Northern India. Previously, this could have been alleviated by the authorities purchasing grain in the surrounding territories of Burma, Malaya, Thailand and the Philippines. But these territories were all under Japanese occupation or didn't you know there was a war on? The minutes of the War Cabinet meeting show that about 80,000 tons of wheat was shipped from Australia to India, with 130,000 tons of barley sent from Iraq. In the same memo, another 100,000 tons of wheat from Canada, all organised by Churchill and his government and every ship ran the gauntlet of Japanese submarines. From near the coast of the Maldives to South Burma, Japanese submarines and battlecruisers wreaked havoc on the East Indian shipping routes. Nevertheless, the British administration still managed to send about a million tons of grain to India between August 1943 and December 1944. Many of Churchill’s detractors point to declining grain being sent from Canada as evidence of him deliberately refusing aid for India. What it actually demonstrates is that Churchill was strategic and sent grain from closer places to reduce any logistical issues and allow food to reach starving Bengalis quicker. Churchill wrote to Roosevelt ....I am seriously concerned about the food situation in India and by cutting down military shipments and other means, I have been able to arrange for 350,000 tons of wheat to be shipped to India from Australia during the first nine months. This is the shortest haul. I cannot see how to do more.’ That means he deliberately cut own the forces supplies to get food through to India. In the same message he asked the United States for a special allocation of ships to carry wheat to India from Australia and Roosevelt refused his plea as America could not divert any ships without hindering its military operations. There was to be no American aid. I won't go any further with this, what would be the use? You can't cure the terminally stupid but I will say, read your history and stop reading it through tea leaves.
As a Scot, the Irish I hold in total admiration and jealousy. They own there country. They started this talking about Britain was not long before they got to England , they always mean England 🤮
Are you for fucking real? In Cork and Kerry there is no love for the scots. Some of the worst black and tans sent to ireland were scottish and you will see more union jacks waived in Scotland than you ever would do in England. Youve got more of a chance of being racially slurred in Glasgow because you are Irish than anywhere in England and that is just a fact. Even the great Tom Barry said when fighting the Brits that he felt the English were there because they had to be but, the Scottish serned like they wanted to be there.
No we don't. Some of the worst Black and Tans that Came to Ireland were Scottish. You've got more chance of being racislly abused becsuse you are Irish Catholic in Scotland than you ever would do in England. Even the great Tom Barry said when fighting you lot that he felt the English soldiers were there because they had to be but, the Scottish sermed like they wanted to be there!
No we don't. Some of the worst Black and Tans that Came to Ireland were Scottish. You've got more chance of being racislly abused becsuse you are Irish Catholic in Scotland than you ever would do in England. Even the great Tom Barry said when fighting you lot that he felt the English soldiers were there because they had to be but, the Scottish sermed like they wanted to be there!
No we don't. Some of the worst Black and Tans that Came to Ireland were Scottish.
@@paul8058 yes agreed, they were in the army doing as they were instructed by there imperial masters....mate fkn England.
The Brute-ish Empire
Nobody's yet to be able to tell me just why all of those countries, that we're treated so badly by the British decided to join the British commonwealth following independence. And further more, India now has a larger economy that Britain yet we still give them aid. So their gripes have never upset them enough to refuse the aid, has it?
@@copferthat Probably to get something back from what was stolen. At least it is aid and not reparations because Britain would not be able to properly compensate that one country for a very very long time.
He's not liked in Ireland and India, and numerous other countries. I will give him credit for keeping Britain in ww2 while he was under pressure to deal a treaty with Germany , he was an inspiration for British and other people, but he was blinded by empire and that is the how he could be so cruel to people in colonies
The anti-Irish commenters below just keep on showing their ignorance and bigotry, grasping at straws with their stupid, irrelevant and senseless comments.
On hearing of Hitler's death, the Taoiseach of the Republic of Ireland visited the German ambassador to personally offer Ireland's condolences...
de Valera also seems to have denounced reports from Bergen-Belsen as allied propaganda.
Wind your neck in.
De Valera did what he thought was appropriste as head of a neutral country. That was not support for Nazi Germany. That does not buy a free psss.
When Stalin died, the UN held a 3 minute silence for a mass murder. The world was well aware of his crimes.
I don't like De Valera but he was right about keeping Ireland neutral.
Ireland had fought against the British for hundreds of years .Also Irishmen had fought WITH Britain all over the world. Some of my own forefathers included.We Irish were ,and are now ,sick and tired of war.
What is your problem with that???
and when Roosevelt died weeks before he did the same thing, whats your point???
@@irishpatriotv2575 You may not see a difference between Roosevelt and Hitler but many do.
This unnecessary cordiality with a nation that had been the direct cause of so much suffering ultimately resulted in Ireland being excluded from the UN for 10 years.
It may also be worth considering all the Allied merchant seamen who were killed between Cork and the Thames estuary or Liverpool... Deaths that could have been easily avoided if Ireland had allowed use of its ports. (around 30,000 people were lost in total)
Naturally I recognise many Irish men joined up and fought for Britain (indeed many of my relatives)... but the Irish state did not cover itself with glory in the early 1940s... Despite this I have never heard anyone in England complain about how unpleasant de Valera and the wider government was.
He was responsible for a famine in India and also Gallipoli in WW1. The man was a disaster.
“We have always found the Irish a bit odd. They refuse to be English”
What a mess of a mind. 😡
Churchill and BP plundered the Iranian oil reserves after WW2. He hypocriticaly spoke of fighting tyranny from the Nazis initially and then from the communist USSR during the cold War.
But he had no problem stealing the wealth of other nations.
"All the Shah's men" is worth reading.
Thousands Serviced in British Services From North an south east an west Thank U All
Some would consider them as Traitors?
They were free to do what they wanted,but neutrality was the right thing for ireland we would have been completely destroyed /genocided out of it we wouldn't exist at all as bad as you lot are the germans would have completely finished us and still could have because the IRA was allied with the nazis and the country was crawling with german spys,thanks to a little known librarian thankfully that didn't happen.
@@seanfagan8490Hardly anyone.
@@sean_d There is still a considerable amount who do Sean. They are in the long grass
Britain declared war on germany after it had invaded poland on what Churchill described as the bigger and more powerful of neighbours bullying and oppresssing the other. Such irony in that statement
Britain enslaved ireland. This is why britain has so few colonies left today.