How Good are the New Pokemon from the Teal Mask?
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holy shit i was before the pinned comment
@@id10tguysame
Wolfey, not sure if this is a spoiler, finish the dex as early as you can. I think glimmering charm is kind of a big help.
Only waych a few minutes in. Wish u did ur research cuz things you should have def. Mentioned. Like hospitality works once. And dipplin can use eviolite.
Applin can hold an eviolite
Fun fact: Dipplin can hold the eviolite, which takes it’s defences higher than appletun, which does also mean it will evolve next dlc, which might make it actually viable and not a gimmick
I heard about this, but does it actually work this way in-game right now or was it something dataminers found in the files to be eventually implemented with the Indigo Disk?
@@chillcloakit works in game iirc
I'm really looking forwar to this, but at the same time it's kinda unfair to appletun and flapple. if it does get an evolution, I hope future games can also give these two an evolution too.
does this work on pokemon showdown? PLEASE TELL ME IT DOES
@@TheButterSurgeYES
2:49 Yes Matcha Gotcha hits both opposing Pokémon, has a 20% chance to burn each target and heals 50% of the damage dealt. Incredibly strong move!
whats even better is later in the video theres a clip at 28:00 showing it as a spread move
It’s basically scaled and giga drain but it hits all enemies
@@redlord4321at 3:17 he USES FOOTAGE of it hitting both
@@brucepotter8817audio recorded before footage.
Basically heals 100% on 2 targets
You forgot something massive about Sinistcha. It get imprison. afaik the combination of imprison and rage powder on a Pokémon is exclusive only to Sinistcha. This means that it can stop amoonguss' redirection, making it much less of a factor in battles. It also gets life dew, in case Hospitality and matcha gotcha weren't enough health.
Oh wow, that’s interesting. Could use it as a trick room/imprison Mon with rage powder and either Matcha Gatcha or Shadow Ball.
Sinistcha is a fucking insane support pokemon
Sinistcha has mad 4 move slot syndrome.
The Chad Sinistcha set:
Sinistcha @ Leftovers
Ability: Hospitality
- Matcha Gotcha
- Strength Sap
- Life Dew
- Grassy Terrain
My team will be healed whether you like it or not. My man’s is a walking hospital
@@snailmixI would even go as far as to say you can swap out grassy terrain for something else and just run it with rillaboom. However depending on the meta maybe those two on the same team might not be good
Some other things that I want to add
- Matcha Gotcha is a spread move (hits both opponents) and has a 20% chance to burn.
- Dipplin is affected by Evolite so we know it has an evo in the upcoming DLC. But still for now it can run Evolite to bump up it’s defenses
- Should be somewhat obvious but Ogerpon’s Tera type cannot be changed - it’s locked into whatever type it’s mask gives (base form Teal Mask being Grass btw)
- Embody Aspect triggers on switch in. Yes, like last Gen’s intrepid sword/shield. If you have Zacian flashbacks, I’m sorry.
- Most importantly, it’s been researched that any of Ogerpon’s masks gives a 1.2x boost to **all** of it’s moves. Basically it has a Griseous Orb in it’s item slot that works in all of its moves.
I did not know about the last one
Ogerpon's masks are a lot better because Giratina can't be in origin form and hold the griseous orb anymore, the most unnecessary nerf ever made
@@poppyfrancis7338the Griseous Core gives the same Ghost/Dragon boost that the Griseous Orb does. Same with the Adamant Crystal and Lustrous Globe
The last two are very interesting
The fact that it gets a 1.2x boost to its moves is a game changer for me. I was worried that because it had to hold its mask that you were effectively losing the held item but since it gives it a boost that's so worth it now!
Matcha Gotcha does hit both opponents, source : playing on casual ladder and getting hit by it
Also would like to confirm that it hits multiple, this time from a Tera Raid- and it heals 4 times when it does hit all 4
@@redsunreptilenah I think its only hitting the raid boss, but because it has such a high health pool you are getting much more recovery.
Regardless, it is a spread move for certain.
Edit: nvm I realized you were saying when it is the boss. Dang that sounds impossible to kill lol
@@treverleach19the worst part of raid Sinistcha using it is that the animations take so long I actually lost when it had like 1% because it took 45 seconds to do the animations for Matcha Gotcha for both its turns and time ran out lmao
@treverleach19 looks like the matcha gotcha and yes it hits both opponents
@@frankcaggiano8282utterly despise the lag and animation stall in raid battles 🗣️🗣️
Ursaluna’s new ability is just “I can hit anything” and that’s kind of insane
Definitely seems like it was balanced as a story mode boss first and foremost
Chaos Chaos
To be fair, it is basically Scrappy + Keen Eye, which is nice. But nothing crazy. You don't gain accuracy on your lower accuracy moves as far as I know. You just ignore stuff like double team and you are immune to sand attack.
@@GreyVictory1510
The ability to hit ghost types with fighting and normal moves more than makes up for it though.
@@GreyVictory1510but also to be fair, they could have just given it either keen eye or scrappy, with scrappy of course as the base story ability, rather than a combo of both. I like it personally, but it is kinda weird to combine abilities like that on a single mon (outside of like, horse+onion-head)
8:46 Dipplin can actually hold the Eviolite, meaning you don’t have to stay with just attacking moves, but also it buffs defense to
Is that actually true? If so, GF either messed up code some way, or there’s a planned evolution for Dipplin that dataminers never found coming in the Indigo Disk or something. If anything, I’m assuming that it’s just a bug.
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiastin the code there’s an empty slot right after dipplin showing that there noght be an evo
@@RainIncorporated That’s interesting! Now I’m hoping that the other two get evos, but they got gigantimaxes. But who knows? Duraludon got one…
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast duraludon can gmax yet it can evolve
Unlike megas, gmaxs arent a seal that cant be broken for a pokemon evolving
@@User-xh5zu I mean at this point megas probably aren't a seal for anyone getting an evo either. They've just yet to feel the desire to give a new evo to one.
Ogerpon also gets a 1.2x multiplier on it's attacks when using the fire, water and rock masks, as compensation for locking you into an item where the grass mask doesnt
yeah I think in terms of the damage output you can achieve with the grass mask its probably the best one for that role. Given it can benefit from its mask still while also holding an item gives it a massive boost and with the right set up can turn it into a horrifying sweeper
Outside of terastalization?
@@eugenemarshall5450yeah all moves get boosted even without tera
@@mr_fish44 Why?!
@@eugenemarshall5450 cause you are locked into an item using any of the mask
Bloodmoon Ursaluna can learn vacuum wave, a fighting type priority move, that can hit ghost types like Gholdengo for super effective which is pretty good for a slow pokemon.
In my opinion, this would be the reason for Bloodmoon Ursaluna to be more viable than regular ones. Cause it can at least still do sth out of trick room
Crazy happy to see Vacuum Wave as a TM. :)
The apple being competitively viable is crazy
The issue with applin is that it's got the Zac/Zam treatment
Hes dipplin into the competitive scene! (Pun intended)
Dipplen is most likely gonna get a evolution too which is even more crazy (if your confused, it's been discovered that dipplen can use a evolite and there is a empty spot where dex number is)
Dripplin
It’s actually able to use the eviolit
Due to data mining and testing with evolite, it appears that Dippin will have an evolution. That's probably why its stats are ok at best
It literally has the same BST as the other Applin evos.
@@MarshtompGamesthe spread is subpar though
@@Star-Bubbles123 Of course it is. It's covered in syrup.
I can see how this correlates to Dipplin being Kieran's Ace Pokémon who (spoilers)
may take an antagonist role in *The Indigo Disk.*
that's true, but right now in game eviolite already works, all but guaranteeing an upcoming evolution@@MarshtompGames
I heard Dipplin can hold Eviolite, and if so, that's insane
This is true
@jahnavivalleru Placing all bets, coding error, spoiler or both.
That's insane add stell tera on top to resist a ton of types you are good
@@TheBTits a Spoiler.
The Index skips a slot after it.
@@UVAmatsuoYeah too specific to be a bug.
I want to add a few things
Sinischa's second ability is Heatproof, making it's fire weakness a neutral move. It should be used in singles
I think the rock mask on Ogerpon is actually good. Rock type moves are kinda scary with how effective they can be at hitting things hard, and it's signature move is basically a stone edge, with 100% accuracy on a Pokémon as fast as Lycanroc. Take that as you will
Update: So it's just been brought into light, but Ogerpon's masks that are needed to change forms have been confirmed to grant a 20% power boost to all attacks, meaning it hits even harder with attacks. Yep
No way the masks make its attacks stronger! That's crazy!
Gotta remember that rock mask has the same type as Cradily, a Pokemon that, all things considered, is a lot better than just looking at its typings seperately would have you guess.
New Pokemon talked about
Sinistcha 0:15
Dipplin 5:19
Ursaluna-Bloodmoon 9:21
Toxic Chain Intro 14:36
Okidogi 14:53
Munkidori 16:57
Fezandipiti 20:03
Ogerpon 23:28
our hero
Yes. Pin this plz
I swear to god if the Dipplin evo is named Tripplin I’m gonna do a backflip. Mark my words.
I'm hoping it's called Double Dripplin.
Hold up you’re onto something
we need your clip then, or it never happened. :D
i believe you man
my money’s on dripplin because it means like triple but also has drip
in it like how dippin means double but also dip
Dripplin is going to evolve, and I'm going to love it
I wonder if it will be a syrupy flapple & appletun fusion.
@@UVAmatsuo It is technically two of the little wyrm creatures in one apple, so that is very possible!
“Dipplin”*
@@PHiLLy2c Dripplin
@@PHiLLy2cDripplin
Fun fact about Syrup Bomb, it is one of the few moves this gen whose appereance changes if the user is Shiny, as it will shoot yellow syrup, but that's not all, the speed reducing effect visual of the move will also be yellow.
Some notes on the first 3.
1) Matcha Gotcha is a spread move and it’s 20% burn on each target.
2) Diplin can use Evolite, making it one of the bulkest Pokémon around.
3) BM Ursaluna also gets Moonlight, so you can run a bulky set to make it a hard hitting tank and heal yourself up when you’re low. It’s basically if Snorlax was a special attacker, got more stats, and was given a second type.
Fezandipiti also gets access to Dual Wingbeat and Tail Slap which have a chance to activate Toxic Chain with each hit, and I think it's kinda dope
Polchagiest evo has a lot of potential from what I can tell. Ive only used it on my playthrough but still it seems incredibly good for doubles. Its ability and move set are solid. I hope its good.
That thing is an annoying pos in Raids (as the raid mon), matcha gotcha being spread recovery makes it eat up SOOO much time whenever it uses it cause for some reason you are required to sit through every single recovery while being unable to select an action
@@Roflmao6173this is basically my no.1 complaint of raids in general. So much stuff can eat up the timer while I can do nothing
Shell bell, pop bomb maushold ftw
It has a ton going for it.
-Heals on Switch-in, meaning it can be an amazing support pivot with pokemon like Lando.
-Learns life Dew, meaning it can heal its teammate even more.
-Heals itself and weakens enemies with Strength Sap.
-Can heal itself and burn two enemies with Matcha Gotcha.
Honestly, I'm excited for thsi pokemon. If it had just a bit of bulk, it could be downright overwhelming.
Correction: Rage Poweder is not grass type. Amoongus is grass type but the move itself is bug type.
Thought that was pollen puff that was bug type maybe I got them confused
both are@@scp-phenomenon014
On the topic of Dipplin, I think it's worth mentioning that Dipplin actually works with the Eviolite which adds a ton of bulk on top of the already decent defenses
Wolfey forgot to mention that even though Bloodmoon Ursaluna has a lower special attack than regular Ursaluna’s physical attack, it can’t be slowed down by intimidate which is pretty big.
And if Neutralizing Gas Weezing comes in, it isn't immediately declawed without it's ability.
Dipplin becomes more viable while holding an Eviolite (yes, it works) - it allows Dipplin to run status support, which synergizes well with its natural immunity to spore and powder moves
I wonder how good Dipplin evo will be in the next DLC
One thing to note about Dipplin: People did some testing and it turns out an eviolite works on it, implying that it will get an evolution in the next DLC. This lines up with the datamine that shows that there's an empty space in the dex between Dipplin and the next pokemon. We probably haven't seen the line's full potential yet.
thing to note is that Ursa Bloodmoon learns Vacuum Wave, so it can use priority to hit most things for decent damage, even against ghosts due to Mind's Eye. This can effectively allow it to hit things even without trickroom. Issue is, is it worth it for your 4th move?
Also the fairy/poison mon I've surprised that wasn't mentioned was that it learns beat up. Beat up with Toxic Chain increases the chance of badly poisoning a opposing pokemon
Not only does Matcha Gotcha deal damage to both Pokemon but it also thaws you out of being Frozen!
Considering what happened in the last regionals, this is comedically relevant.
Huh? I thought it thaws target not user
@@MiffedKitten Certain moves thaw user. Scald did in previous gens, so Green Tea Scald thawing isn't really surprising.
What the heck is matcha anyway?
tea
One important thing missing, ogerpon apparently gets an around 20% hidden boost to all of its attacks when it's wearing a mask, meaning the fire mask is probably the best moveset
the ogerpons are actually incredible
I really like seeing a bird that's not a flying type. Gives a little variance
im not a competitive pokemon player but i love seeing your videos too how complex pokemon can really be. keep up the great work
Some *important* notes:
Macha Gotcha hits both targets, with around 20% burn chance.
Dipplin CAN run eviolite.
Each mask held by Ogerpon boosts all attacks 1.2 times(as much as expert belt without having it be super effective).
Okidogi gets snarl which can be very big.
It's important to note that for some reason, Dipplin can use an eviolite
That's because it will evolve in dlc 2
@@Star-Bubbles123Into TRIPPLIN
(This is just a name idea, not a confirmed name)
@@isaiaholaru5013No, dripplin.
Great vid! This time I just listened since I'm having a headache, so I thought, what releasing these formats in an audio media, most likely podcasts.
Great video! I try to comment more and more on videos to show support!
Really good break down for me who is trying to get back into Ranked but still have not gotten the DLC myself so now I atleast know what to look out for! :)
Keep the videos coming Wolfey!
The cool thing going for Munkidori is fake out + chance of poison, so that's cool.
Edit: Fezandipiti getting Icy wind + poison chance is crazy
It's worth mentioning for dipplin that it's been confirmed to get an evolution in the next dlc because eviolite works on it which would make it actually really bulky
I think a video going over the returning moves and who gets them would also be pretty cool
I really like your delivery in this video. in most of your videos it seems pretty clear you're reading a script, but in this one you seem more casual and coversational. I like this a lot, would like to see your other videos be like this
I’m currently running Bloodmoon Ursaluna (Max SpAtk then the rest of the EVs shared between HP and SpDef) holding Assault Vest with Bloodmoon, Earthpower, Moonblast and Hypervoice. Paired with Cresselia with Trickroom, Helping Hand and Lunar Blessing to support it and these two have just rolled over teams on their own if I lead with them! Helping Hand, Hypervoice just does so much damage!! Then I usually have Water Urshifu and Dragonite in the back and they’ve been great backups so far.
Wolfey as always brings us high quality content
Glazing
I like how when you were talking about Follow Me on Ogerpon and how good the move is, the replays shown in the background are two situations where Follow Me was used and functionally was completely useless.
This video (through Patreon or just on the main channel) makes me really want to see Wolfey go more in-depth on certain Pokemon, meta or otherwise
Dipplin probably will get an evo next dlc
I’ve heard that the Eviolite works on Dipplin which means there’s a high chance of it evolving next DLC.
I'm excited for sinistcha and fezendipiti, especially since it learns a bunch of moves that hit multiple target like dazzling gleam and heat wave and icy wind
I love this content your helping me understand competitive pokemon
fun fact:
ingame Shiinotic is actually listed as a Mythical right now due to it's JP name being similar to Marshadow's JP name.
also Okidogi just comes off to me as, Green Dog Incineroar designwise, idk why
He reminds me of tony the tiger. Theyre Grrific.
Something missed about dipplin is that in game it gets a buff from eviolite. This was tested and from datamines it has a possible evolution in its dex so it seems to all point towards an evolution but for now having eviolite is nice
loving the music selection on this vid
been running a combo of hearthflame ogerpon with grassy glide and rillaboom, plus a neutralizing gas weezing with an eject button so it effectively can get a +2 in attack after the weezing switches out
Ogerpon also gets a 20% damage boost to all moves when wearing one of the 3 masks
Personally i think alot of them can be more usefull but they will get nerfed or buffed in the later dlc
Hope to see another video about the new abilities, and moves pokemon got
ive been testing a bulkier setup on the fire type ogerpon with icy wind and trick room support for speed control, and it can live some pretty surprising things with some investment in the right spots. And the attack boost on tera along with the mask itself giving 1.2x damage means its not weak by any means which I like personally for the teams I end up building.
a combo I'm actually really curious about the effectiveness of is using syrup bomb on your own ursaluna for trick room, like a speed version of that annihilape population bomb strat
Drink every time he says by any means.
I have yet to play this gen, but I'm still watching Wolfey explain everything. :) Keep it up!
Id like to mention some more info on Matcha Gotcha
1. Its burn chance is 20%, so not as bad as scald but the healing makes up
2. Its also a "bullet" move, meaning bulletproof Pokemon (like Kommo-O or even Ursaluna) are safe
The teacher who chaperones you talks about bringing terastralization to other regions with the crystals on the top of the oni mountain, with a better look attached to it like these masks replacing the crowns, would you like it to become a base game mechanic going forward?
A couple ideas I had that didn't get mentioned...
-sludge wave + toxic chain
-focus energy + ivy cudgel (might not be as good as swords dance but has use cases)
-water absorb + follow me
Sludge Wave + Toxic Chain doesn't sound very good. Sludge Wave has a worse poison effect than Toxic Chain, and you can hit your ally will Sludge Wave (risking a poison on them).
We need in depth analysis of ogerpon! It seems so versatile and customizable!
I wonder how toxic chain interacts with the pledge moves. More specifically the water fire combination that doubles the secondary effects of move’s which also stacks with serene grace which is nutty.
If i see one more comment about dipplin running eviolute I'll scream
I wonder how Dipplin’s signature move will synergize with Trick Room teams? Imagine hitting either a Pokemon that quad-resists the move or is weak to it (meaning that Weakness Policy goes off) and it becoming slower every turn. Under Trick Room, that’ll make it go before mons that would normally out-speed it. Definitely a strategy I’d like to see in action!
One support move you didnt mention for Ogerpon is Encore. It is quite fast so you can lock things into protect etc
hey wolfe just wanted you to know that i came up with an interesting strat for dipplin…
If you send out dipplin and enamorous (with contrary) you can passively speed up enamorous by using syrup bomb on it, making a ~600+ speed tank. Works pretty well for me!
I think the biggest omission that hasn’t already been brought up is that Ogerpon gets Encore. Makes the support variant that much scarier
I feel like the meta will require each team to have a Pokémon with gastro acid if blood moon ursaluna becomes dominant, which can be a problem as it wastes a spot for a move / Pokémon.
This is actually a great video for someone like me who doesn't play the game anymore but still curious on what's new.
a team idea that i think could be good is fezandipiti with dazzling gleam and icy wind, with gothitelle next to it with heal pulse. shadow tag and toxic chain could have really good synergy. (edit- i just tested it on showdown and got a forfeit)
Wolfey didn’t mention that Okidogi learns Snarl which makes it much better. Shoring up his middling SpD with added bonus of poisoning opponents. Makes it outclass fezandipity
I don't think just snarl makes ir outclass fezandipiti, i mean, as much as snarl is good for control in doubles, fezandipiti just has more control coverage than just snarl could ever offer.
@@DIRTkat_ofc I actually hard disagree. The only support fez has is speed control. So as far as spread moves go snarl outclasses fez in that arena. Okidogi is much better damage wise especially considering knock off. Though fez does have much better typing. If fez had like 110 SpA then I’d agree with you
Always a vibe when Wolfey provides entertainment while holding us hostage in his basement
You. Bot. Get outta here.
Monkidori is a really good support mon with parting shot, taunt, and many others
dipplin is really good support with his ability being essentially evasiveness intimidate, a signature move that lowers speed for three turns, and being awsome looking.
My theory as to why Game Freak gave Ursaluna a new form that bearly (Pardon the pun) has any ties to the original (Only in design, name, and type) is because of the fact that most formats have species clause. They probably knew making a new really strong Trick Room special attacker could go really bad in a meta with normal Ursaluna as a potential teammate, so they came up with a reason to make you have to choose between them. Like, "uh, shoot this could go real bad if we let this bear combo too well with this other strong bear, let's just say they're one in the same so nobody can use the combo!".
just an FYI for anyone wondering, Dipplins ability essentially multiplies accuracy by (4/3). For example it would change Hypnosis from 60% to 80% accuracy
Shoutout to the editor for the Fire Emblem music, you're the goat
Shout to the big arms remix from sonic generations ds playing in the backround lol
I think running rock type with SD Tera to get the Def boost and have ttar to set up sand sounds like a fun team
Just wondering but do you think safeguard might see some usage with the introduction of the loyal three and toxic chain? It just seems like a possible way of shutting down one of their abilities
Whoever is editing these videos makes really good music choices
Wish I knew the song at 01:15
I’ve been having a lot of fun with a core of hearthflame ogerpon, clefairy and empoleon (who finally gets competitive instead of defiant). Experimenting with the last three, but kommo-o has been working well with life dew clefairy
We love you wolf! You are so informative and entertaining
Yoooo, really love the production on this one! It feels like the corporate feel on it has been toned down, actually reminds me somewhat of the casual chaotic vibes I came here for. Love the upgrade in production quality, keep it up!
I've been getting a bunch of success with Sinistcha on my Grassy Terrain team. Moves are Matcha Gotcha, Scald, Rage Powder, and Protect. Spread is 252 HP, 84 in Def, SpAtk, and SpDef, and 4 speed with a Calm Nature and Tera Water.
Sinistcha is such a cool mon I hope it gets some use
Another note about ursaluna bloodmoon: it has vacuum wave, which I find preposterous given it’s stats.
I am going to get the DLC at the end of October at the latest and I'm am excited to try blood moon Ursaluna because it's like ursaluna, which I already love, but a better special attacking version that looks sick, so hyped. :)
I think for ursaluna it might end up being useful to run vacuum wave. A priority move that hits ghost types is always a good thing
I would have been curious to see his opinions on the gen 4 starters as well
Excited to try a tail slap Fezandipiti set
Thx wolf this really helpt understand how good the Pokémon competifly are❤
Ogerpon has a lot going on, can't wait to see what people are coming up for it, who knows maybe someone will make a competitive rock type Ogerpon
Hey I was wondering if there was any chance there would be a follow up to the video giving us insight on the best tera types for each pokemon of base game for the DLCs, either split by DLC or in one video when both DLCs are out?
Hi! I am having a hard time deciding between offensive or defensive Ogerpon. I was thinking either grass/fire mask with 252 attack, or water mask with follow me. Is it worth running follow me on the offensive version? I am scared it won't be able to take both hits.
I tested water mask with follow me, spiky shield, encore, ivy cudgel. It was working pretty good against water urshifu.
I’m not big into Pokemon competitive, but it seems like if you ran a 0 IV speed diplin with a trick room sinistcha, you could set up really nicely for other bulkier pokemon to sweep with full accuracy of heavy hitting moves, and allow them to attack first over otherwise faster opponents.
I like the Jangmo’oo’o line as a doubles partner for Annihilape or Kingambit, or even Ogerpon. +3 ATK off of Noble Roar into Defiant is dope.
You can't trigger Defiant by yourself
After some testings, it seems like Eviolite does work on Dippin, not sure if it's a bug or if a futher evolution will be interoduced in the indigo disk later on, but if that's the case, then eviolite + recover sets could actually see some decent usages