I wish this Tech could make it in the Philippines. Over 36 million embarkations per year from interisland travellers. There are target markets for these as soon as economies of scale is achieved.
P12 is definitely the earliest seed in this market. Swedens capital is spread out on islands, efficient boat travel here is becoming a trend. Over there, it would be life changing. Remember that emissions are killing people now, today, and constantly. Reducing is saving lives.
Very cool! I'm surprised that you don't have better DC boat charging infrastructure there around Stockholm yet though, considering there's DC fast charging for boats in the small harbour here in Örnsköldsvik, a city with a little more than 30000 people! I'm guessing that will probably change in the next year or so, from experience these fastchargers seem to roll out very quickly. 😂
I love the idea of the boat. Great design. I hope battery technology advances extend the range and the price falls over time, but I do question the assumption that there is always an opportunity to charge. There are a lot of spots like the Scottish Hebrides where marinas are infrequent but mooring in isolated spots provides an opportunity to explore. If you had solar panels on the front deck, hardtop, and rear lounge it would provide a bit of recharge. However, an option package for collapsible solar panels to be extended from sides and cabin at anchor could expand from day boat to adventure/exploration. It seems like you also may need an easy tool to clear seaweed from the hydrofoils.
Cool video! It has been very interesting boat to see in boat fairs. How will it handle when the sea conditions turn rougher? Is it possible still to use hydrofoils and go fast?
This is definitely a part of the future. Still a bit to expensive to buy at the moment, so quite limited customer base, but for those who commute every day by boat would probably quite soon reach the point were going electric will be much cheaper. Add to that provably far less maintenance costs. I love this boat, but cannot afford it…..😢
As long as hundreds are in que to buy, I suppose there is no insetive to lower cost. Building carbon fibre voats is quite complicated but as the manufacturing improves, costs of production will go down and supply will go up
Disagree, how long was it to fuel to how long it was the charge, we will all die depending on fossil fuels, yes ingenuity at its finest, but the gas boat had to wait in the docs for that to charge
Despite constant claims of lower maintenance, this has been thoroughly debunked, and is in fact the opposite. It's why Hertz has getting rid of some 30,000 EVs and returning to ICE vehicles. It's also part of the reason why insurance is more expensive for an equivalent EV. Ten minutes on Google is far more useful than "trust me bro".
@@maxhugen Spending just five more minutes actually news on Google would reveal that EV insurance is high because EV parts are expensive. Additionally, the Hertz issue stemmed from Tesla's fast depreciation and the fact that many people were unfamiliar with EVs, so they opted for gas ones more frequently.
Love your innovation !!! This is the boat many people are waiting for . Wish you can also incorporate high efficiency solar panels that can charge the boat with free electricity from the Sun ! 😉💖⚡️⛵️⚡️💖💯👍👏 😉💖🌬🌊🌞⚡️🔋💯🌏✌️
As far as I know as long as the waves are not higher than the level difference between the water level and the boat itself it will just cut through those waves.
You have better charging pricing that we have in the UK, looking at Aqua Superpower who have 150kWh, 75kWh and 25kWh DC chargers in nearby Plymouth, their subscription is €585 for 1200kWh which is a 50% discount on the standard rates. Still a third cheaper than the Gasoline price, but closer to €1 per kWh here, so here it would have been £230 for a trip of that distance
I've seen a couple of videos of trips done in the UK, comparing electricity vs petrol prices - and they did not stack up well. What's more, there is no consideration of the tax charged on petrol/diesel, and sooner or later, EVs will have to be taxed on a mileage rate to compensate for the lost revenue.
@@maxhugenI had a letter from the government yesterday advising that vehicle excise duty would be levied in 2025. Charging is expensive here in the UK. I pay on the street/road about £0.57p per kWh. Home charging can be as little as £0.07 per kWh. It’s not an incentive any longer to have electric charging
Korkad jämförelse, man måste jämföra med lika design och konstruktion. Skulle vara intressant med en dieselelektisk kraftkälla med samma framdrivnings sätt.
Why not look into using solar, wind, and water intake as methods to recharge the batteries while in transit? Or to power the radio, and other non-engine components. So that the main batteries are only for the engines.
@@james.telferThanks, but 1 minute into the clip they show how they charge, and there’s no protection from above, so water will seep in when it rains. Electricity and water is known as a dangerous combination 🤔
@@JohanViklund The CCS connector is waterproof, many electric cars have their CCS connecter angled up somewhat and that is no issue as long as it is plugged in.
This is not useful... We haven't seen anything of the behavior on the open water. You may as well be circling the lake... But I'm glad you are making a progress. Thank you anyway.
I would rather have a lightweight diesel engine. It will make the entire hydrofoil much lighter and thus more energy efficient. Thus partially negating the loss of efficiency of using ICE.
A large reson for efficiency is the c-pod. The engines are super small and in water without any transmissions. That would not be possible with an ICE. This also leads to a dead silent ride as there are basically no moving parts above water level, apart from a few actuators for foils. Also, the price per kwh is usually much lower for electricity than diesel, and in 10 years it will be even more so
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@@spingbay7039 This is, as is usual, already super-solved: Use a diesel generator driving the pod motor. Fairly common as far as I know. Tugboats and even huge ships have it.
I wondered for years why boats are not hydrofoiling. This progress seemed inevitable to me. Well done and really deserved.
Thank you!
Smart project, I wish this team good luck, their technology is going to be important for the planet!
I tried it this summer it is like a magical flying carpet. Pure amazement
I wish this Tech could make it in the Philippines. Over 36 million embarkations per year from interisland travellers. There are target markets for these as soon as economies of scale is achieved.
P12 is definitely the earliest seed in this market. Swedens capital is spread out on islands, efficient boat travel here is becoming a trend. Over there, it would be life changing.
Remember that emissions are killing people now, today, and constantly. Reducing is saving lives.
150nm trip, with 2l/nm and 300litre tank, how did you need to refuel the chase boat 6 times? :)
I don't think they said that? It sounds like they used about 390l of fuel.
@@baxter77piano 4:35 they said that.
@@baxter77piano we had some issues with refueling stations closing after 6 pm, so we had to fill up whenever we could - hence the top ups.
Very cool! I'm surprised that you don't have better DC boat charging infrastructure there around Stockholm yet though, considering there's DC fast charging for boats in the small harbour here in Örnsköldsvik, a city with a little more than 30000 people!
I'm guessing that will probably change in the next year or so, from experience these fastchargers seem to roll out very quickly. 😂
I love the idea of the boat. Great design. I hope battery technology advances extend the range and the price falls over time, but I do question the assumption that there is always an opportunity to charge. There are a lot of spots like the Scottish Hebrides where marinas are infrequent but mooring in isolated spots provides an opportunity to explore. If you had solar panels on the front deck, hardtop, and rear lounge it would provide a bit of recharge. However, an option package for collapsible solar panels to be extended from sides and cabin at anchor could expand from day boat to adventure/exploration. It seems like you also may need an easy tool to clear seaweed from the hydrofoils.
Cool video! It has been very interesting boat to see in boat fairs. How will it handle when the sea conditions turn rougher? Is it possible still to use hydrofoils and go fast?
Coolt, jag såg när ni gick ut och körde om oss på utsidan :)
What's also game changing is that I'm assuming you eliminate sea sickness.
I wondered that too
This is definitely a part of the future. Still a bit to expensive to buy at the moment, so quite limited customer base, but for those who commute every day by boat would probably quite soon reach the point were going electric will be much cheaper. Add to that provably far less maintenance costs. I love this boat, but cannot afford it…..😢
As long as hundreds are in que to buy, I suppose there is no insetive to lower cost. Building carbon fibre voats is quite complicated but as the manufacturing improves, costs of production will go down and supply will go up
"a bit" too expensive..
Disagree, how long was it to fuel to how long it was the charge, we will all die depending on fossil fuels, yes ingenuity at its finest, but the gas boat had to wait in the docs for that to charge
Despite constant claims of lower maintenance, this has been thoroughly debunked, and is in fact the opposite. It's why Hertz has getting rid of some 30,000 EVs and returning to ICE vehicles. It's also part of the reason why insurance is more expensive for an equivalent EV. Ten minutes on Google is far more useful than "trust me bro".
@@maxhugen
Spending just five more minutes actually news on Google would reveal that EV insurance is high because EV parts are expensive. Additionally, the Hertz issue stemmed from Tesla's fast depreciation and the fact that many people were unfamiliar with EVs, so they opted for gas ones more frequently.
Love your innovation !!!
This is the boat many people are waiting for .
Wish you can also incorporate high efficiency solar panels that can charge the boat with free electricity from the Sun !
😉💖⚡️⛵️⚡️💖💯👍👏
😉💖🌬🌊🌞⚡️🔋💯🌏✌️
Nice, love to see that electric propulsion is spreading more and more. 😍Efficient, quiet, smooth and cheap in operation.
How does a hydrofoil boat handle waves? Is it just that it wont hydrofoil in those conditions?
As far as I know as long as the waves are not higher than the level difference between the water level and the boat itself it will just cut through those waves.
Very cool technology and boat, keep it up!!
That is Kattegatt, not the Baltic sea.
@@c64amigamac Kapellskär?
Wondering about future superfast MCS charging
Did the gasoline powered boat have hydrofoils too?
this is awesome!
You have better charging pricing that we have in the UK, looking at Aqua Superpower who have 150kWh, 75kWh and 25kWh DC chargers in nearby Plymouth, their subscription is €585 for 1200kWh which is a 50% discount on the standard rates. Still a third cheaper than the Gasoline price, but closer to €1 per kWh here, so here it would have been £230 for a trip of that distance
I've seen a couple of videos of trips done in the UK, comparing electricity vs petrol prices - and they did not stack up well. What's more, there is no consideration of the tax charged on petrol/diesel, and sooner or later, EVs will have to be taxed on a mileage rate to compensate for the lost revenue.
@@maxhugenI had a letter from the government yesterday advising that vehicle excise duty would be levied in 2025. Charging is expensive here in the UK. I pay on the street/road about £0.57p per kWh. Home charging can be as little as £0.07 per kWh. It’s not an incentive any longer to have electric charging
Comparing a foiling boat with a non-foiling boat? Refueling the chase boat *six* times? Somehow this does not add up.
das boot eesa bad ta da arse!
👍💚
Any testing of the same trip planned for colder months?
Actually I want to see this break ice.
What about choppy water? The foil doesn't have you very high out of the water
95&% of the time it work since you are not usually out in storm.
@@yamahass66 You've never been on a lake or the ocean before. It is never that calm
Korkad jämförelse, man måste jämföra med lika design och konstruktion. Skulle vara intressant med en dieselelektisk kraftkälla med samma framdrivnings sätt.
Why not look into using solar, wind, and water intake as methods to recharge the batteries while in transit? Or to power the radio, and other non-engine components. So that the main batteries are only for the engines.
If you put a turbine on the boat to charge with wind you add drag. If you use water intakes you also add drag. You'd end up using more power.
Häftigt! Vad hade ni för marchfart i knop?
I en annan video så säger de att cruising speed för modellen i fråga är 22 knop
@@Aceofswe Tack!
How do you plan to charge the boat when raining?
Same as when it's not - everything on a boat is designed to be used around water and rated accordingly...
@@james.telferThanks, but 1 minute into the clip they show how they charge, and there’s no protection from above, so water will seep in when it rains. Electricity and water is known as a dangerous combination 🤔
@@JohanViklund The CCS connector is waterproof, many electric cars have their CCS connecter angled up somewhat and that is no issue as long as it is plugged in.
Same as an electric car - works great to charge when it's raining.
Compare instead with a hydrofoiling fossil boat
made in SWEDEN
This is not useful... We haven't seen anything of the behavior on the open water. You may as well be circling the lake... But I'm glad you are making a progress. Thank you anyway.
Electric boat in perfect conditions when charging stations open rather have more reliable diesel engines comparing different platforms means nothing
Imo there could be a case for a small diesel engine on board that just keeps the batteries charged.
Wait till you get some seaweed wrapped around the foils.. yeah.
That's not an issue, as seaweed comes off the foils at around 20 knots... we tried it in Venice and several places with heavy growth.
first of all.. countries should fix the electricity demand to make the world electric. burning more coal wont help the enviroment.
better than dirty marine motors.
Better secure that battery before Tesla or Israel decide to attack that😊
An electric fish slicer 🎉
Now put that on a gas boat , bet you wouldn't need to fill up
Not bad and very nice hydrofoil technique, but world record? Ocean? Overall not too impressive, sorry.
Sp who else has done better? Sorry you got no logic.
something doesnt add up
Yes you.
I would rather have a lightweight diesel engine. It will make the entire hydrofoil much lighter and thus more energy efficient. Thus partially negating the loss of efficiency of using ICE.
A large reson for efficiency is the c-pod. The engines are super small and in water without any transmissions. That would not be possible with an ICE. This also leads to a dead silent ride as there are basically no moving parts above water level, apart from a few actuators for foils.
Also, the price per kwh is usually much lower for electricity than diesel, and in 10 years it will be even more so
@@spingbay7039 This is, as is usual, already super-solved: Use a diesel generator driving the pod motor. Fairly common as far as I know. Tugboats and even huge ships have it.
Exactly. Like Edison is doing for the large transport trucks they are developing.👍
I would rather pour the diesel straight into the water. That is the most efficient way to pollute the water.
Not sure if that’ll make for a dead silent ride though.