The basics of cassette recording

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  • @ah2347
    @ah2347 Рік тому +37

    I wasn't a fan of recording to tapes but one time just for fun I recorded myself practicing (synthesizer) and upon reviewing the tape, the tonal quality of the sound from the tape was far superior to anything I've recorded digitally. I'm well aware you can edit your recorded digital track to match the tonal qualities of tape, but for a hobbyist, I think cassette tape is a great way of achieving a very excellent quality recording without spending hours fidgeting with vsts or spending a small fortune on gear.
    Great video thanks for sharing!

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому +3

      You wouldn't be the first one to run a track through tape, and then edit it digitally after. I don't know what quality you record in digital, but try 24 bit, 96khz or above, and it gets a lot closer to tape. It won't have the natural distortion and roll-off of tape though. And of course, these are objectively downsides of the medium, but they do create a more pleasant, organic listening experience. Sometimes better is not nicer :).
      Judging by what you say though, I do highly recommend you get yourself some reel to reel recorders, one 4 track (4 track, not 4 channel) with the 3 3/4 and 7 1/2 IPS speed, and a 2-track, with the 7 1/2 and 15ips speed. I'd look at the TEAC A-2300SX and A-3300SX for that. Then you'll have varying levels of tape 'ruination' to play with. They don't come cheap anymore (although I neve rpaid more than 60 bucks for an A-2300SX, patience is a virtue) but they are worth it, and rarely REALLY defective.

    • @ah2347
      @ah2347 Рік тому

      @@rollingtroll Hey thanks for the excellent advice. Very much appreciate you giving your time to reply!

    • @syru2894
      @syru2894 Рік тому

      What brand of cassette recorder and tape did you use?

  • @truthorhappiness
    @truthorhappiness Рік тому +57

    I own an electronic repair business. I do not recommend you clean the rubber pinch roller with alcohol. They will dry up, stop feeding the tape, and will need replacing. It’s best to leave the rubber alone.

    • @bartholomewgc4393
      @bartholomewgc4393 Рік тому +3

      What would you reccomend using instead to prevent this from happening? Is there some sort of DiY cleaner that can be used or a specific type of conditioner/cleaner that can prevent this?

    • @truthorhappiness
      @truthorhappiness Рік тому +15

      @@bartholomewgc4393 If just cleaning, then water is best. If you wish to restore the softness of the rubber, mg chemicals rubber renew works well. Use it outside and handle with gloves and a mask. Let the rubber roller soak in a small cup full of the liquid for an hour. Wash off with water. In most cases, you’ll get at least a few more years out of it each time. For best results, just buy a new pinch roller if you can find the correct size for your unit.

    • @PurpleStormProductions
      @PurpleStormProductions Рік тому +4

      @@truthorhappinessI’ve seen VWestlife, another cassette content creator, say he cleans his rubber rollers with window cleaner instead of alcohol so it doesn’t dry up, is that cleaner a good choice?

    • @thorbampougias311
      @thorbampougias311 Рік тому +3

      Windows cleaner 😂 alcohol 😂 water 😂 nope isopro alcholic 99% heads
      Roller? they are special products for that... hi fi stores

    • @andrea585ny
      @andrea585ny Рік тому +4

      ​@@thorbampougias311window cleaner has ammonia not alcohol

  • @teun958
    @teun958 Рік тому +9

    Great video! Hard to come by these days, everyone is always oversimplifying and giving just a part of the information that is needed for you to understand the whole process.

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому +1

      If you want a good video, you got to make it yourself 😁. Thanks!

  • @olebak0
    @olebak0 Рік тому +13

    What a great video, for me it was a blast from the past. I remember there were some noise reduction settings (for instance Dolby NR) on my cassette player, that I used to fiddle with too. Man I miss the 80's sometimes 🤪 I remember that special smell some new tapes had after removing the foil wrapping 😊

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому +3

      I used to record with dolby as a kid, and play back without so I would get some highs 😁. We learn! No need to stop using tape though, it ain’t dead yet!

  • @opinionday0079
    @opinionday0079 8 місяців тому +2

    What a charming video exactly what I needed I just got a Tape Deck and this is really a great start for me nothing too complicated

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  8 місяців тому +1

      So happy to hear that! And it actually isn't that complicated, it never was. All you gotta do is care to do these things right, and you can have a great time with cassette decks (baring in mind that they are 30+ years old and may be faulty, but that's always a risk with old gear).
      What deck did you get?

  • @remusracingro3884
    @remusracingro3884 Рік тому +2

    Recorded one chrome cassete yesterday.l on a nak 150. Good sound quality.

  • @Benjaminbutton86
    @Benjaminbutton86 Рік тому +3

    I have an 80s Panasonic 635 deck hooked up to a 70s Sansui 221 receiver. I listen to tapes all the time on it with no issue. I finally tried recording from vinyl the other day thinking it would be easy enough (I also listen to vinyl with no issue).. It’s recording but I can barely hear the music on the tape, I have to crank it and even then it’s mostly tape hiss. I tried adjusting the input levels, the tape select and input select with little to no change. What am I doing wrong? Do I just need to clean the deck? Thanks 🙏

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому +1

      Time for some head cleaning. Also what tape type are you using and did you set the tape type accordingly? Also I assume the levels are looking normal during recording?

  • @im8r834
    @im8r834 14 днів тому

    thanks. It was iteresting and simple to understand.

  • @UpTheIrons12
    @UpTheIrons12 11 місяців тому +1

    Hey, so I have a pre recorded tape that has the notches removed on the top. My friend accidentally recorded from the beginning and the end of the tape with a 1980 something General Electric recorder. Do you know what’s wrong here?

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  11 місяців тому

      The sensor things are stuck and always in the up (= notch detection)

    • @UpTheIrons12
      @UpTheIrons12 11 місяців тому

      @@rollingtroll thank you 😊

  • @christiaanzeelenberg1907
    @christiaanzeelenberg1907 2 роки тому +4

    Nice and informative video about recording on tape, interesting to hear the effects of setting wrong tape types during recording.
    I have recently started recording on my NAD 613 deck and enjoying it a lot. For calibration with the Bias adjustment I recording a 315Hz and 10kHz sine wave, separated in the left and right channel, and find a position that on playback gives equal levels on the left and right channel. Any other tips on setting Bias?
    Your part on the notches in the different tape types got me thinking. My NAD 613 does not have a tape type selector, thereby I assume that will auto adjust with the notches, as you explained. But what if I have a type 2 tape with the record protection notches removed, and I cover the complete notches in order to be able to record? Will my deck see this type 2 cassette as being a type 1?
    Also, what is the purpose of the 70/120 microsecond switch on your Nakamichi? I though the difference between type 1 and type 2 is the either 70 or 120 microseconds? (and is that termed bias, or EQ? what does EQ mean anyway?)
    Hopefully you are able to respond to my question. Keep up the nice work with your channel, cool content also with the speaker demo and reviews!

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  2 роки тому

      Hello! Typing on my phone so keeping it a bit brief; I personally use my ears for biasing with a piece of music that has a full frequency range. Even if the bias is slightly off you won’t know unless you one on one compare. Many decks don’t even have bias controls and they still sound fine. Don’t overthink it 😁.
      If you cover both notches it will record at type 1, yes. So only cover one (just put the tape over half of the notch. It is okay if it just goes from the front to the back of the shell, you don’t have to put it exactly on the top of the tape. Anything works as long as only half the notch is covered.
      As for the 70/120; it’s a playback eq only. There are a few type 2 120us tapes and Nakamichi took those into consideration!
      Google “120us chrome tape” and you will see some images :)
      Thank you for the kind words!

  • @connivingkhajiit
    @connivingkhajiit Рік тому +1

    Great video. Question: if i have a tape recorder without any type settings to change, how can I record type II properly?

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому +1

      It will have auto tape detection, it is explained in the video too :). That is what those notches on the top are for. I suggest you watch the whole thing!

    • @connivingkhajiit
      @connivingkhajiit Рік тому +1

      @@rollingtroll I did aactually, I must have missed it.

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому +1

      @@connivingkhajiit 5:54!

  • @MrROTD
    @MrROTD Рік тому +1

    Every deck is different , if you can monitor the recording you can listen and adjust the settings and level to get the best sound. I made great dubs using Dolby C and Chrome tapes by SONY TEAC Memorex Maxell Fuji TDK , even Radio Shack Realistic had good chrome tapes.

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому

      You can also just rewind for that :). Bit more work but it works!

  • @powerkontroller4874
    @powerkontroller4874 Рік тому

    Out of the box, this is an awesome video!

  • @mariocomeq1961
    @mariocomeq1961 7 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful CD player and Tape Recorder.

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  7 місяців тому +1

      Nah, the CD player is just a budget Marantz DVD player. Nothing special :D.

    • @mariocomeq1961
      @mariocomeq1961 7 місяців тому +1

      @@rollingtroll Bu it is a elegant one. I noticed that your Nakamchi tape recorder doesn't show with red lights he overpeak

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  7 місяців тому +2

      @@mariocomeq1961 it does look pretty yes. And no, no red lights. And that makes sense as there are high end tapes you can easily record up to +8dB. So if it would show red at 0dB that would actually be incorrect!

  • @brainstormingredligh
    @brainstormingredligh Рік тому +3

    The first thing you actually need to do when putting a blank tape in his press play for a few seconds so you can hear a little bit of his noise then stop it and then start recording and you will never miss the starting of a song

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому +3

      It's called leader tape. And I figured people would find that out :D.

  • @dansullivan9152
    @dansullivan9152 Рік тому +2

    Great video! Did not know that those eq buttons were a Nakamichi specific thing.

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому +2

      They are a bit left field sometimes. I do feel like they made it a little confusing in order to make sure you actually have their decks adjusted to the correct tape formulation

  • @robertmoir5695
    @robertmoir5695 Рік тому +1

    Did you ever try putting a cassette on fast record and it would always play back in slow motion I used to do that

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому +1

      I have reel to reels, computers and record players for that, but I prefer the music to sound as intended :D.

  • @scolombo7161
    @scolombo7161 Рік тому +1

    My record button wont push in... dont know if im doing something wrong or the tapedeck is broke, im frustrated... Its a marantz sd-155

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому +1

      Isn't your cassette record protected? If you have no idea what I am talking about I suggest you watch the whole video ;)

  • @El-Ritmo
    @El-Ritmo 2 місяці тому

    Thanks very much for this video, I enjoyed it and found your demonstrations of the differences in settings pretty illustrative and useful. Due to a childhood nostalgia surge I've been getting back into tapes (and have more blank cassettes than I could possibly use because I'm a fool 😂🤣), and finally bought my first stand-alone deck (a rather battered Technics one that I'm going to fix up). Your video will be a useful resource once I start using it.

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  2 місяці тому

      @@El-Ritmo hah, don’t we all have more blanks than we can use? 😁.
      Enjoy your newfound interest! Happy I could help :)

  • @eldredgodson9639
    @eldredgodson9639 2 роки тому +3

    How do you tell the difference between Type I Fe LowNoise (LN) & Type I Fe LowNoise_HighOutput (LH) tapes?

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  2 роки тому +3

      Honestly, pretty much every tape from the seventies onwards is an LH tape. Pretty much just means you can record it louder and with how biasing works, I highly recommend using your ears to decide how loud you want to record :)

  • @lilbuggers3
    @lilbuggers3 Рік тому +2

    I had a dual cassette player, with black and white TV and a record player.

  • @antoniofontan3934
    @antoniofontan3934 2 роки тому +2

    Can I record direct from the outputs on my audio interface? Or is it recommended to use an amplifier for all applications

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  2 роки тому +5

      You can absolutely directly record from your audio interface. A really high quality amplifier (something high end, not your 'average' consumer sony, pioneer, technics etc.) might pose a small improvement but unless you are working with high res digital audio, there's really no need to worry about this.
      There's only a few different analog signals. There's phono signal (comes from an old fashioned record player), microphone/guitar signal and line level signal. Line level is pretty much any modern audio device. So whether it's your cassette recorder, computer, phone, cd player, ipad, tv or even gameboy, if you have the cable to connect it (which just means; the right plugs on both sides, nothing fancy) it WILL work.
      Bare in mind; If your audio interface is meant for music production, it may only have microphone inputs and no line level inputs. So if you want to go the other way around (from tape to your computer) you may need to make sure your interface supports that. Your interface outputs though, are definitely line level.

    • @antoniofontan3934
      @antoniofontan3934 2 роки тому +1

      @@rollingtroll awesome and thanks for the quick reply! I just found out recently that my mom still has her nakamichi bx-100 in good condition that she never uses so I have been doing some research in figuring out how to incorporate it into a music production workflow for a little bit of tape flavor. Luckily my interface has switchable mic/instrument/line inputs so looks like I will be good to go on that end. I was originally intending just to record direct from my interface but I found out even more recently that she also still has a Rotel rx-830 stereo amplifier so I guess based on what you said I'll try both to see which one I like better.

  • @Zimmy_1981
    @Zimmy_1981 7 місяців тому +1

    Very helpful video & tutorial. Very helpful. thank you kindly. greetings from Trinidad

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  7 місяців тому +2

      You are very welcome! Happy I could help. Many analog greetings back from the Netherlands

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  7 місяців тому +2

      (Also; Trinidad the country or the city?)

    • @Zimmy_1981
      @Zimmy_1981 7 місяців тому +1

      @@rollingtroll oh sorry, my bad, Trinidad & Tobago, islands in the Caribbean. Ah Netherlands. I had a feeling u were from there. Beautiful country. I had the pleasure of visitng there a few years ago & enjoyed it. Ppl are kind and friendly there. Thanks for the warm analog greetings, mate 🙂🇹🇹💯

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  7 місяців тому +1

      @@Zimmy_1981 I would have guessed right but still wanted to check :D.
      Happy you enjoyed your time here! And even more happy we were good to you :D :D

  • @VideoDaze
    @VideoDaze Рік тому +3

    Thanks for the tip about recording above 0, getting better results now

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому +2

      Louder is better, as long as the tape accepts it :D.

  • @jeb1246
    @jeb1246 Рік тому

    Mijn cassette opnames, van Hilversum 3, met popmuziek uit de jaren zeventig lijken nog steeds in goede(?) staat en de stemmen van mijzelf en mijn broertje uit die tijd heb ik een paar jaar geleden gedigitaliseerd. Maar ik denk dat ik tot in de jaren tachtig het niet zo nauw nam met de verschillende cassette types. Daarna gebruikte ik de hifi stereo video recorder en toen kwam bij mij pas het besef van een goede geluidskwaliteit, uiteraard tegelijk met de opkomst van de cd.

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому

      Uitwisselen met video is altijd tricky, maar het klonk groots. Overigens klinkt een goeie cassette niks minder hoor :).

  • @fraudsarentfriends4717
    @fraudsarentfriends4717 Рік тому +1

    I had an auto reverse deck. Never had a problem with the rotating head. The tape drive motors became worn out, rotating head never failed. Don't know why they are hated so much, Wish they still manufactured them.

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому +2

      I had hundreds of cassette decks. Trust me, it is an issue. About half of them are unusable because of it. Some don’t suffer from it but it’s not worth the risk

    • @fraudsarentfriends4717
      @fraudsarentfriends4717 Рік тому +1

      @@rollingtroll Mine was a Teac double deck model. It looked like a quality mechanism that rotated the head.
      I think some decks are made for music recording and fidelity like the 3 head design while others are intended for recording broadcast radio like sporting events. I liked the rotating heads for broadcast recording. It must have been issues on the really cheap models.

    • @Yoda8945
      @Yoda8945 Рік тому +1

      Rotating heads are almost impossible to set up for proper azimuth in both directions. Tapes made on such a machine may play back properly on that machine, but they will not play back properly on other machines.

    • @fraudsarentfriends4717
      @fraudsarentfriends4717 Рік тому

      @@Yoda8945 Never had that problem. Recordings were broadcast quality. Sounded as good as any standard fixed head tape deck and Was the same across players.

    • @Yoda8945
      @Yoda8945 Рік тому +1

      @fraudsarentfriends4717 Did you ever check it with a Sound Technology 1500 Test system? Otherwise, you are guessing.

  • @thedarkflowkiller
    @thedarkflowkiller 10 місяців тому

    I'm in the process of recording a cassette with sound coming from my PC's audio interface (scarlet focusrite), and I was wondering if I needed to use the Dolby NR during recording ?

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  10 місяців тому

      If you use it during recording you also have to use it during playback, that's how it works. I personally don't like it, I can hear it work and I don't care about a little noise. Whether you use it is depending on whether you too hear it work, and on whether you care about the noise. Record with and without, and be your own judge. Just remember, if you record with Dolby, you have to play back with Dolby.

    • @thedarkflowkiller
      @thedarkflowkiller 10 місяців тому

      @@rollingtrollperfect, thanks !

    • @thedarkflowkiller
      @thedarkflowkiller 9 місяців тому

      @@rollingtrollThank you !
      Another question to ask, should I use my PC's audio interface to record a tape or using my phone will set the same quality ? If I play the same audio of course (.wav file).

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  9 місяців тому

      @@thedarkflowkiller depends on how good your phone sounds 😁. The cassette deck doesn’t care, so use whichever one sounds better to you.

  • @jerryspann8713
    @jerryspann8713 Рік тому +2

    Auto reverse deck with a 4 track head. They do exist and don't depend on an unreliable mechanism.

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому

      I only saw that on cheap walkmans, weirdly. Never saw a deck that had it. Can you mention a few?

  • @dendys04
    @dendys04 2 роки тому +2

    im just about to buy a denon dr-m11 the cost is 25 dollars it is a good deal ?

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  2 роки тому +2

      If you know for certain it works properly, then yes. Absolutely. If you can't do any work on it yourself, make sure you test it properly. Often people don't know what they sell. Bring headphones, bring a source (phone, laptop) with a cable to make a recording. Also bring a known good tape so you can play back, see if it sounds clean, if the speed is correct.
      As for the recording; If you use a proper, relatively modern tape then you should not be able to hear a noticeable difference between the source you are recording from, and the tape when you listen back. Good luck!

    • @dendys04
      @dendys04 2 роки тому +1

      @@rollingtroll i just buy it and it works great but the speed is slower a already put the adjustment to the max but still around 12hz slower

    • @dendys04
      @dendys04 2 роки тому +1

      @@rollingtroll i just find a new motor in some cheap Sharp system and now it works perfectly

  • @zromaa
    @zromaa 2 роки тому +1

    How do you segment tracks when recording to a cassette instead of having just one long track composed of different songs?

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  2 роки тому +3

      You can't. A tape is always one long track. Some cassettedecks can 'track search' when there's a 3 second (or more) silence between songs. Alternatively you can use the tape counter to see where tracks start, you would then just have to write the counter number on your tape index card, and fast forward to that number :)

    • @zromaa
      @zromaa 2 роки тому +1

      @@rollingtroll Thanks a lot, I always wanted to know

    • @zromaa
      @zromaa 2 роки тому +1

      @@rollingtroll also how do you go about erasing a type 2 cassette to record something else on it?

    • @martinbank_
      @martinbank_ 2 роки тому +2

      @@zromaa The same way like every other cassette. You can simply record over it or you can use tape eraser. So understanding it is not necessary to erase the tape. you can just record it like if it was empty. The deck will take care of erasing the old track and recording new one (of course setting the deck to record type 2 cassette).

  • @TheSaravanakumarSS
    @TheSaravanakumarSS Рік тому

    Great video for cassette recording. Is it advisable to record from my Desktop PC (with external DAC) or a pure audio CD player? Please advise. :)

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому +1

      Depends on how good your dac is! I personally don’t use cd anymore at all. Only high resolution digital audio :). Whatever sounds best to your ears will sound best on tape.

    • @TheSaravanakumarSS
      @TheSaravanakumarSS Рік тому

      @@rollingtroll Thanks a lot! :)

  • @armandomolina9905
    @armandomolina9905 Рік тому +1

    Tengo el deck Yamaha KX-360, es una verdadera máquina, tiene un sonido muy cálido, saludos.

  • @anonymex22
    @anonymex22 Рік тому

    Hi
    Asking here because don't know where to ask
    I make new tape recording from dsd512 sources
    i would like to know a which level do i must set the bias of the tape recorder of the sweep test signal?
    thanks in advance,
    have a good day,
    rgds,

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому

      You set the level of the bias so the recording sounds as close to the source as possible. Just use your ears. You can't use sweeps for biasing unless you use measuring equipment to set it up. Most decks set their bias at the highest level (sound level) at 10khz, but it depends on the deck and you'd need the service manual to be sure.
      Seriously though, just grab a song that has plenty of highs and lows, and adjust the bias until you can't keep source and tape apart :).

  • @ricardoflot2787
    @ricardoflot2787 5 місяців тому

    ALL my decks are type VI capable, I have them, but rarely use them except if I'm recording classical, other than that, type I gives me EXCELLENT results, I have MANY type II tapes, and rarely use them!

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  5 місяців тому +2

      My favourite tapes are the TDK AR-X and AD-X. Type I is so underrated.

    • @ricardoflot2787
      @ricardoflot2787 5 місяців тому

      @rollingtroll AGREED, I've had a couple of those over the years, and I haven't seen those in FOREVER, they're VERY UNDERRATED!

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  5 місяців тому

      @@ricardoflot2787 Another one that sounds stupidly good is the Scotch Master I, but they are unreliable. That being said, the Maxell Metal Vertex is also ridiculously good but well, check ebay prices. Thanks but no thanks :).

    • @ricardoflot2787
      @ricardoflot2787 5 місяців тому

      @rollingtroll Those Ampex Grand Master cassettes I miss ALSO, I should've gotten more of them when they were available!

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  5 місяців тому

      @@ricardoflot2787 Grand Master is completely unusable in 2024 though :)

  • @LANCEofIRAQ
    @LANCEofIRAQ Рік тому +1

    Thanks so much

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому +1

      No problem!

    • @LANCEofIRAQ
      @LANCEofIRAQ Рік тому +1

      @@rollingtroll
      Well, the problem that I can not find or choose which stereo cassette recorder that I should buy!

  • @colloidalsilverwater15ppm88

    Nice work.

  • @rottenpenna
    @rottenpenna 2 роки тому +1

    this video is very usefull thx dude

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  2 роки тому +1

      Really happy to hear that! Happy tapin’!

  • @yak7414
    @yak7414 3 місяці тому +1

    think about buying a used cassette deck, hooking it up to my digital audio interface, then sending the cassette recordings to my DAW. might even get a portable cassette recorder to mess with some really lo-fi stuff, lol. has anyone here tried this??!

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  3 місяці тому +1

      @@yak7414 many people have. Whole albums were recorded on cassette recently. Check out the resonars for instance, all cassette. Or dewolff’s “hope train”. That intro was recorded on a fisher price cassette recorder.
      Here’s my two cents; go for an aiwa or jvc from between 1988 and 1993. Cassette decks don’t get much more reliable than that.

    • @yak7414
      @yak7414 3 місяці тому +1

      @@rollingtroll thanks for the advice!! really appreciate it :)

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  3 місяці тому +1

      @@yak7414 no problem at all!

    • @jakefiersing
      @jakefiersing 2 місяці тому

      @rollingtroll Your brands advice for reliable cassette decks is quite surprising. Especially JVC is not at all appreciated by most of your fellow youtubers.

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  2 місяці тому +1

      @@jakefiersing I owned 400+ decks in my life. At some point you notice which ones are the good ones. What is generally recommend on here?

  • @rogerking7258
    @rogerking7258 Рік тому +3

    Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Dolby? Please don't tell me you're one of those who thinks it doesn't work. It does - and really well if you understand it, especially S although that's quite rare - even your Naka there only has B & C.

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому +3

      It works, but I can hear it work, and that's not worth it to me. It does at it promises but has clear downsides that I can't live with, and I can live with a little hiss, so that's an easy choice to make :)

    • @MisterYeko
      @MisterYeko 7 місяців тому +1

      Not many deck have the same NR performance tho. JVC for example have ANRS and Super ANRS on few decks for example in the end 70s and 80s. Even it got an external NR System from JVC (similar thing to DBX 224 Type II Unit). Suprisingly, the ANRS handles better to Dolby B encoded prerecorded tapes. Not at all but i played few Dolby B with HX Pro tapes and it sounded more OG. Even with Chrome prerecorded tape would performe very good.
      I mean i have tested to record Dolby B with Type 1. it sounded decent for, the hiss is still there but smoother than harsh. C sounds very good and S is like Lossless. But if i playback to the JVC deck, they sounded bit different to their components. Which in many case, tapes can sound different depending on the gears you use.

    • @tuckertastictk
      @tuckertastictk 4 місяці тому +1

      I bought a new Teac W-1200, and one of the things people put it down for is not having Dolby, but DNR. After trying it out, DNR works far better than Dolby ever did.

    • @edwardallan197
      @edwardallan197 Місяць тому

      A great many have hi end hearing loss and even noisy hi's 'sound' better. Dynamically. Of course Dolby works.

  • @celsient
    @celsient 8 місяців тому

    great vid, thanks!

  • @Yoda8945
    @Yoda8945 Рік тому +2

    Much of the business that I had in the 80's and 90's was real time cassette duplication. I used Nakamichi MR2 decks. The best fidelity for Type I Playback was to use Type II (chromium) tape in Type I shells.
    On recording, I would use Type II bias but 120micro second (Type I) eq. This gave extra headroom for the high frequencies and allowed recording at about 4dB hotter. These tapes played back properly on a Type I machine as they didn't have Type II sensor holes.

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому

      Many decks don't erase properly if you use Type II bias on Type I tape. But I'll give it a shot with one of my naks, see what it does for me :D.

    • @Yoda8945
      @Yoda8945 Рік тому +1

      I used Type II Bias but not EQ on Type II tape. Only the EQ was changed to 120microsecond.
      Of course, the playback was only correct if you used type I playback which is why I used Type I cassette cases for my duplicates.
      Self sensor decks sensed it as Type i. and I marked them as normal 120 playback.
      This was something I learned when I was licensed by Dolby.

    • @XxCreateFlowxX
      @XxCreateFlowxX Рік тому

      ​@@Yoda8945"when I was licensed by Dolby" that's a cool sentence to be able to say about yourself.

  • @jordangagat
    @jordangagat Рік тому

    Former record to cd in casette

  • @TorchySmurf
    @TorchySmurf 4 місяці тому

    I have a user manual for my HK TD-392 which reads: “ When using ‘Low Noise’ Tapes, Momentary illumination up to +3dB is allowable." Then Come: +1dB , Metal +5dB . I assume this is just an industry standard. I hate the fear I get when I see the redline hitting, 😂

  • @retromasterhd1607
    @retromasterhd1607 Рік тому

    This video really helped me a lot thanks ever so very much. 👍🏿😄😀

  • @subarusensei3685
    @subarusensei3685 2 роки тому +2

    This wants me to fix the play motor on my Technics M85 MK 2

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  2 роки тому +1

      Can you still get a replacement motor or are you going to try to fix the motor itself?

    • @subarusensei3685
      @subarusensei3685 2 роки тому +1

      @@rollingtroll probably gonna see if I can repair it, if not I have some friends that probably have replacement.

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  2 роки тому +1

      @@subarusensei3685 I wonder, are you on the LTT forum? I remember speaking with someone who has a broken M85 there :D.

    • @subarusensei3685
      @subarusensei3685 2 роки тому +1

      @@rollingtroll yes I am sub68....

  • @BacktoTranceCassettes
    @BacktoTranceCassettes Рік тому

    Ammmazing! tnx!

  • @randyverblauw9500
    @randyverblauw9500 Рік тому

    Whut jumbo magere melk🎉

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому

      Aye. Go back to my older videos and you see why that's a good idea ;).

  • @mikesaunders4694
    @mikesaunders4694 2 роки тому +2

    Great basic info….milk last always ;0)

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  2 роки тому +3

      Right? That said, milk in tea is completely abnormal here in the Netherlands. Same with vinegar on fries. Seems I was born in the wrong country

    • @mikesaunders4694
      @mikesaunders4694 2 роки тому +2

      @@rollingtroll milky tea is the best …that said I’m partial to mayo with my chips sometimes 😉 you need to experience fish & chips with mushy peas & curry sauce mmmmmm

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  2 роки тому +4

      @@mikesaunders4694 Not with you on the curry sauce, has to be vinegar. Definitely with you on the mushy peas!
      (Man that escalated quickly!)

    • @eldredgodson9639
      @eldredgodson9639 2 роки тому

      @@mikesaunders4694 FISH with Curry Sauce! You Barbarian!...Saveloy and chips with Curry Sauce...

  • @bobsbits5357
    @bobsbits5357 9 місяців тому

    hi buy tape line cassette tapes don't have any makes all over them and the heads that turn be ok if they are service alot
    note never use turning heads to record just in case the heads out of line i am a tec all the decks i work on i check moving parts for wear
    i am lucky i talked to alot over the years there are alot of poor looking decks out there
    my sister had a cassette radio dad got her it hell it was junk of a deck heads were to soft mate had a low end cassette hi-fi the head dead very fast
    i had a 4 track mono in the 80's still working the case has had it
    i know the fox tapes they something to do with tapeline i have the 1/8 tape pancakes for my otari dp2700 cassette loader
    i have been asked to show the deck on the net bob

  • @tjmarx
    @tjmarx Рік тому

    My wife likes a good single deck, but she leaves the cleaning up to me.

  • @Svart_skog_skygge_nokt
    @Svart_skog_skygge_nokt Рік тому

    Spent years in 80-90 even in 2000s with tapes. What is the reason to perform this today ? I also wonder why this casette decks still cost money. Ok for Marantz, Denon some hi-end tech, but also tape-players that cost 100 $ from 30y ago are in trend too ! Wtf :?! ("Old days come to life. Old morning dawn... ?")
    2 days ago i woke up and fixed that i want to buy a tape recorder too !!!))) i feel myself not myself !)
    Obviously - all this staff sounds quite poor and have many complexities.
    Seems like just some magic rite today, is not for listening).

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  Рік тому

      Because there is no better relatively affordable alternative. Great digital audio is more expensive, reel to reel is too. And of course there is a little romance and the tangible aspect.
      If it sounds poor, you are doing it wrong. Even in a very serious audiophile setup cassette still sounds great.
      Happy to provide you with a recorder depending on where you are!

    • @Svart_skog_skygge_nokt
      @Svart_skog_skygge_nokt Рік тому

      @@rollingtroll To get =great sound= this will not end just at a casette recorder. Will need to buy all stuff. This will cost. Spent very much time with tapes collectioning them. . In 90s i was doing it like most guys - just diffirent casette deck / system hi-fi, no pro lvl hi-end of cuz.
      Then i moved to Cd/tapes, then to Mp3 128, then to 256/320 lame 3.92 codec, then to Mpc/Flac. Avid Mbox pro / Genelec 8040. Still there & some audio CD`s of chosen groups.
      I am not so excited about tapes - cause i know what is it to load games Zx Spectrum & Atari on tapes). You need to feel it). Best way when you are a child and do not have experience how does it all works)). Pure anal acrobacy and a taste of a failure after a hours of wait)).
      Isn`t it better to move to vinyl if to think this way ?
      Vinyl has better quality, lasts long, and also gains a price with time so we can even get some antiq sense...

  • @abdelkaderelbachir3817
    @abdelkaderelbachir3817 2 роки тому +4

    I mean that was very well done but to be honest for me cassettes can rest in peace

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  2 роки тому +16

      Then you obviously don't know how to use them. Maybe try again with my video ;)

    • @abdelkaderelbachir3817
      @abdelkaderelbachir3817 9 місяців тому

      @OldiesandOldschool I don't need money

  • @callmehost7594
    @callmehost7594 11 місяців тому

    this is a great video but i have one question. does the volume amount also apply to other recorders such as a stereo and thing like that. i also do not have a db meter on my deck is that fine?

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  11 місяців тому +1

      Then it has an automatic recording level. It's not ideal (because it keeps adjusting) but it is what it is :).

    • @callmehost7594
      @callmehost7594 11 місяців тому

      @@rollingtroll ohhh ok thank you!!

    • @callmehost7594
      @callmehost7594 11 місяців тому

      @@rollingtroll do you have any recommendations of decent recording decks for a good price

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  11 місяців тому +1

      Generally affordable Aiwa and JVC decks are pretty reliable. Go for something mid nineties. Not the very late early 2000's ones, not the super old ones. Biggest chance of them working :).
      Also somehow the Akai HX27W always works :D.
      @@callmehost7594

    • @callmehost7594
      @callmehost7594 11 місяців тому

      @@rollingtroll sounds good thank you so much!

  • @dejanrakic77
    @dejanrakic77 2 роки тому

    I want those sandwiches!

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  2 роки тому

      The recipe is there for everyone to see :D.

    • @rollingtroll
      @rollingtroll  2 роки тому

      (also well done for making it to the end)