Where No MAN Has Gone Before!

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  • @Retrospective1982
    @Retrospective1982 6 місяців тому +409

    Renaming no-man's land would be a complete insult to the MEN who died in that war!

    • @JamesRDavenport
      @JamesRDavenport 6 місяців тому +49

      After all, there were no women who died in No Man's Land.
      And that was the historical term used for that area during WWI. We need to stick to what is accurate for the time. No matter how allegedly "problematic" it may seem today. Terminology matters.

    • @Krysnha
      @Krysnha 6 місяців тому

      Since when modern buroctrats and satanist care for the life of young men that die for theyre neations, i can asure if tomorrow an invasion ocurs womans that suppose can do anything better than men, suddenly they go and scream, no we need men suddenly

    • @dennisanderson3895
      @dennisanderson3895 6 місяців тому +20

      B-b-but...Wonder Woman! SHE crossed that "No MAN'S Land against all the munitions onslaught the icky mean MEN could muster with her shield, strength from the gods, and her whoahgina! (Yes: I agree with your statement completely.)

    • @Psiros
      @Psiros 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@@dennisanderson3895I liked the movie until that part was said. I literally cringed when I heard it.

    • @dennisanderson3895
      @dennisanderson3895 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Psiros Considering the "female empowerment" Moulton infused into the very DNA of the WW character when her invented her (with all the kinks he, his wife, and unicorn loved), I thought the movie actually across a little bit subdued and organic. (Reread to verify I was attempting humor at first! ;-) ) Diana was a blessed-by-gods princess who did understand human cruelty but was repulsed by it and sought win it over to peace and love. I liked how the movie struck the balance her gentle and warrior natures.

  • @docsavage8640
    @docsavage8640 6 місяців тому +363

    Shouldn't the EU be working on things like cutting taxes, providing better services, trying to end war in Ukraine, and dealing with illegal immigration and homegrown Islamofascist terrorism?

    • @SamSchott1
      @SamSchott1 6 місяців тому +46

      Probably, but posturing and virtue signaling is so much easier.

    • @joaopereira817
      @joaopereira817 6 місяців тому +14

      No, gender correction is more important for some reason

    • @ANobodyatall
      @ANobodyatall 6 місяців тому +2

      You kidding!

    • @atticusherodes6648
      @atticusherodes6648 6 місяців тому

      an unelected government body using 1984 as a rule book/ those are the guys right/

    • @peterfromaustria724
      @peterfromaustria724 6 місяців тому +6

      Hey! Last year they finally solved that in the future only one plug can be used on your phone … that has to be enough! All the other problems are not important … so let’s work on correct speech …

  • @scribewell
    @scribewell 6 місяців тому +317

    Next, they’ll want to change Neil Armstrong’s quote to, “That’s one small step for one, one giant leap for one kind.”

    • @deltadom33
      @deltadom33 6 місяців тому +25

      Don't give them ideas

    • @ANobodyatall
      @ANobodyatall 6 місяців тому +14

      They. It's they!

    • @ThatGuyBrian
      @ThatGuyBrian 6 місяців тому +15

      The original quote wasn't even "That's one small step for man", it was "That's one small step for *a* man, one giant leap for mankind." Armstrong was referring to the actions of one individual (in this case, himself) representing a step forward for humanity.
      In the context of that sentence, gender only serves to describe Neil himself, whereas the phrase "mankind" refers to the human race as a collective.

    • @bluntguy9532
      @bluntguy9532 6 місяців тому +2

      In an AI world, it'll happen.

    • @Gary85Paul
      @Gary85Paul 6 місяців тому +2

      One giant leap for they kind, if Sam 'I'm so lonely, so I'm going to film myself crying in my mansion' Smith.

  • @nealsterling8151
    @nealsterling8151 6 місяців тому +160

    BS like this happens when ignorant bureaucrats have nothing better to do.

    • @MrReubenTishkoff
      @MrReubenTishkoff 6 місяців тому

      Or want to divert attention from how every European country is being destroyed from within. And how much they are enabling it.

    • @theelder4797
      @theelder4797 6 місяців тому +1

      They had time to command ThemToob to cneosr a cmmonet in here too! Such great things they're working on!

    • @jimhalpert9421
      @jimhalpert9421 6 місяців тому

      The problem is that every organisation now thinks they have to employ gender study people and besides sitting around most of the day doing whatever one does studying genders, once in a while they have to actually get "something" done. It doesn't matter if this "something" makes sense or not, these gender people are employed to produce horse manure like that. The real problem ist that they are employed in the first place; and payed for by our tax money.

    • @zoso73
      @zoso73 6 місяців тому +6

      It's more than that. This is textbook Marxism.

    • @weallliveintrees
      @weallliveintrees 6 місяців тому

      BS like this happens when useful idiots are given ‘busy work’ as befits their (lack of), intelligence and understanding.

  • @rivards1
    @rivards1 6 місяців тому +288

    "No ONE has gone before" has always been dumb. Because even an alien creature is "one", and they're already there. The goal is to go where no HUMAN BEING has gone before, and "man" in this context means "human being". Saying where "no one has gone before" implies only going to places entirely devoid of sentient life.

    • @docsavage8640
      @docsavage8640 6 місяців тому +1

      Man = Mankind = humanity = these idiots don't even know what words mean

    • @stxrobstar
      @stxrobstar 6 місяців тому

      @@docsavage8640 And they're doing their lame best to ensure that the rest of western mankind won't know what words mean either.

    • @nealsterling8151
      @nealsterling8151 6 місяців тому +15

      Agreed, but what about the alien crewmates on board a Federation ship?
      They are obviously not human...
      Maybe it should say: "where no federation member has gone before"
      Ok that sounds even more silly, lol.

    • @2Worlds_and_InBetween
      @2Worlds_and_InBetween 6 місяців тому +9

      you beat me to it
      _tips hat_

    • @batmanforpresident9655
      @batmanforpresident9655 6 місяців тому +1

      But sometimes on that show they discover totally new galaxies and planets, don't they?

  • @AlBQuirky
    @AlBQuirky 6 місяців тому +230

    Back in the 70's, I recall a Mad Magazine cartoon dealing with this. It pictured Kirk & Spock "sneaking" into a women's restroom. A place where "no man" had gone before. It was hilarious then and now.

    • @pilouuuu
      @pilouuuu 6 місяців тому +14

      I miss Mad magazine more than ever nowadays. They were always ready to mock the absurdity of our society.

    • @2Worlds_and_InBetween
      @2Worlds_and_InBetween 6 місяців тому +5

      yep...
      fold here....

    • @projektkobra2247
      @projektkobra2247 6 місяців тому +4

      I learned SO much from MAD magazine.....Its why I know who Spiro Agnew is, and I bet 95% of folks today have no clue.

    • @MrReubenTishkoff
      @MrReubenTishkoff 6 місяців тому +3

      Today they would just have to self identify as one.

    • @veganconservative1109
      @veganconservative1109 6 місяців тому +4

      Today we make do with The Babylon Bee. @@pilouuuu

  • @Ashkihyena
    @Ashkihyena 6 місяців тому +136

    Another unwarranted attacking on William Shatner and the EU can bite me.

    • @IggyStardust1967
      @IggyStardust1967 6 місяців тому +15

      They just mad that Shatner has been to space and they haven't.

    • @jimjam51075
      @jimjam51075 6 місяців тому +17

      ​@@IggyStardust1967 Welcome to what lives in George Takei's head for free.

    • @IggyStardust1967
      @IggyStardust1967 6 місяців тому +3

      @@jimjam51075 Perhaps, but he could always apply for a ride in the future, and do the same thing. After all, he WAS the captain of the USS Excelsior.... so it would be fitting. ;)

    • @jimjam51075
      @jimjam51075 6 місяців тому +2

      @@IggyStardust1967 George Takei made some weird statement to regard Shatner only as a "specimen" for scientists to study because of his advanced age and being put into space.
      If that's how George feels about such an endeavor, I doubt he would do the same thing.
      That whole tweet really lowered George for me.

    • @jimjam51075
      @jimjam51075 6 місяців тому +4

      @@IggyStardust1967 Most of George Takei's statement was:
      "He's a guinea pig...Ninety years old and it’s important to find out what happens...”, Shatner’s advanced years will “show a great deal more on the wear and tear on the human body” and that “he’ll be a good specimen to study...a specimen that’s unfit.”
      My take is George has been trying to cover his misanthropy with social causes all of these years. Many people do.

  • @christophermatthews555
    @christophermatthews555 6 місяців тому +112

    Has it not occurred to these geniuses that “man” in this context refers to the species rather than the sex? But I guess they would argue that “womenkind” are a separate species or some such nonsense.

    • @indiajohnson
      @indiajohnson 6 місяців тому +5

      The same can be applied to the X-Men, as in that applies to the branch of humankind with the X-Gene that makes up that particular team than just a team of guys.

    • @worndown8280
      @worndown8280 6 місяців тому +1

      The definition you are looking for is a singular collective.

    • @DaleRoberts-xm8ye
      @DaleRoberts-xm8ye 6 місяців тому +2

      A singular collective? Good grief! They're trying to turn us into the bloody Borg!

    • @veganconservative1109
      @veganconservative1109 6 місяців тому +4

      No. But because they can't define what 'woman' means.

    • @sird2333
      @sird2333 6 місяців тому

      Well, wouldn’t be THAT wrong….

  • @floydlooney6837
    @floydlooney6837 6 місяців тому +133

    Completely ridiculous and insane.

    • @Mofix222
      @Mofix222 6 місяців тому +1

      welcome to the EU

    • @Krysnha
      @Krysnha 6 місяців тому +1

      welcome to the modern world

    • @dervideominister
      @dervideominister 6 місяців тому

      Yeah - so ridiculous that is just not true! And you are triggered by this nonsense? Lol.....
      The EU paper is from 2019 (!!!) and it is a "toolkit on Gender-sensitive Communication
      A resource for policymakers, legislators, media and anyone else with an interest in making their communication more inclusive"
      The quote from Star Trek is just (a very bad) example (among a lot of others) to illustrate the topic. No-one ever suggested a ban.
      The SUN is a yellow press newspaper from Britain. They are known to make up things - that is just what they do.

  • @laurenced2916
    @laurenced2916 6 місяців тому +33

    This is why physical media is important! Discs cannot be altered or deleted.

    • @zxyatiywariii8
      @zxyatiywariii8 6 місяців тому +4

      Exactly. I treasure my DVDs and books.

    • @sockpuppet7881
      @sockpuppet7881 6 місяців тому +2

      Except the disc's degrade over time. Entropy wins eventually.

    • @RenePeraza
      @RenePeraza 6 місяців тому +1

      Hear, hear!

  • @GrimGalore
    @GrimGalore 6 місяців тому +74

    "These are the voyages of the starship Equity"

    • @blue18404
      @blue18404 6 місяців тому

      Listen, if men wanted to save Entertainment along with society they would. Problem is that, White People only care to show up for work and appear as working class victims.

    • @stxrobstar
      @stxrobstar 6 місяців тому

      ...And their -sister- comrade ships Diversity and Inclusion. 😆

    • @stephenshelton4267
      @stephenshelton4267 6 місяців тому +15

      Captain Karen!

    • @IggyStardust1967
      @IggyStardust1967 6 місяців тому +14

      @@stephenshelton4267 Oh, I would pay good money to see Captain Karen show up at the Klingon home world and demand to see the manager.

    • @rhaythe
      @rhaythe 6 місяців тому +18

      "To seek out new strife and new discrimination. To scoldly go where none have been victimized before."

  • @michaelelsy2209
    @michaelelsy2209 6 місяців тому +89

    Did Women fight in the trenches in WW1 no so it's no Man's Land.

    • @gildor8866
      @gildor8866 6 місяців тому +2

      I believe its actually called "contested territory" nowadays, at least when reading about Ukraine.

    • @Osprey850
      @Osprey850 6 місяців тому +12

      Since no women fought in the trenches, shouldn't we call it No Woman's Land? 😆

    • @martinfiedler4317
      @martinfiedler4317 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Osprey850 "No Woman's Land"? That is highly offensive to all the brave Tommy's who identified as women... 🤬

    • @michaelelsy2209
      @michaelelsy2209 6 місяців тому

      🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 ​@@Osprey850

    • @douglasstewart4790
      @douglasstewart4790 6 місяців тому +3

      They did shame more men into dying in those trenches. Guys who stayed home got handed white feathers from women, the feathers signifying cowardice.
      Two atrocities in India under The Raj (Cawnpore and Amritsar) were in retaliation for the slaughtering of English women. No one's ever going to kill or die for these cows ever again.

  • @worndown8280
    @worndown8280 6 місяців тому +11

    The word "man" in Star Trek was always a singular collective, meaning all of mankind. This is moronic. There were women on the Enterprise for Christ sake.

    • @Mofix222
      @Mofix222 6 місяців тому +1

      You really think that anyone from us in the EU can understand English? We can´t even spreak, read and write our own languages anymore

  • @ObjectiveObservershort-man
    @ObjectiveObservershort-man 6 місяців тому +45

    I can "boldly" say that "no one" has ever been affected by the OG trek terminology.

  • @SimpleJack82
    @SimpleJack82 6 місяців тому +46

    As for me who doesn’t have English as my native language, I always believed that “man” stood for mankind. So “no one” sounds strange and a bit arrogant? Do we know what the original quote is referring to? EU is turning in to a totalitarian state. You Brits did the right thing when exiting this bs.

    • @kennethnystrom593
      @kennethnystrom593 6 місяців тому +5

      "No one" litterly means nobody...= no humans nor aliens etc etc...

    • @zxyatiywariii8
      @zxyatiywariii8 6 місяців тому +11

      You're right, "man" meant mankind. I'm a woman and it never bothered me. "No one" makes no sense, because the "new life and new civilizations" which the Enterprise is seeking, ARE someone who has been there before humans showed up.

    • @doltBmB
      @doltBmB 6 місяців тому +3

      yes it does, the fact that "man" (mankind) is spelt the same as "man" (male person) is a big source of confusion for feminists

    • @dervideominister
      @dervideominister 6 місяців тому

      "Do we know what the original quote is referring to?" yes of course - you can download it. It is just an example how you could make your language more inclusive. Nothing more. Nobody want to ban anything!

    • @SimpleJack82
      @SimpleJack82 6 місяців тому

      @@dervideominister How can you make it more inclusive than mankind? Inclusive to what? Tractors? Moose?

  • @terminatorxp2007
    @terminatorxp2007 6 місяців тому +43

    Language policing is the laziest form of activism and only comes about when the person proposing it has no serious policy response to an “issue”.

  • @sdfried4877
    @sdfried4877 6 місяців тому +12

    My favorite line in Undiscovered Country is when Chekov is told how “inalienable human rights” is completely racist and that the Federation is one big “homosapiens only club”. 😂That’s some of the most clever wordplay I’ve ever heard in my life. A perfect example of science fiction done right.

  • @slicerneons3300
    @slicerneons3300 6 місяців тому +96

    Stand strong Men. Don't let these ideologues erase your achievenents and your dignity.

    • @All2Meme
      @All2Meme 6 місяців тому

      I don't know if it is dignity so much as it is a step in the dehumanization of humanity. If you can control the language you can control begin to control thought, and that is what will eventually come. Imagine a world with an elite isolated leadership and the rest of the human race being like livestock that caters to their every whim.

  • @The_Mighty_Fiction
    @The_Mighty_Fiction 6 місяців тому +8

    I might be wrong, but I could swear the original intro went "These are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise. _Her_ five year mission...."

  • @travist.7279
    @travist.7279 6 місяців тому +14

    "To boldly f-up things that were never f'd-up in the first place!"

  • @travisguilmette3005
    @travisguilmette3005 6 місяців тому +22

    No man's land is a reference to the dead! Not ownership of territory.

    • @docsavage8640
      @docsavage8640 6 місяців тому +5

      It's a reference to territory neither side can claim

    • @moonbaby6134
      @moonbaby6134 6 місяців тому

      That is factually incorrect. It is an old medieval term meaning’disputed territory’.

  • @lordamin2085
    @lordamin2085 6 місяців тому +12

    I agree with you 100%. When I was younger, I was fine with the change, but now that I've seen the slippery slope go for a few decades, just stop it.

  • @MillywiggZ
    @MillywiggZ 6 місяців тому +14

    I feel the same about the toppling of statues. How is anyone going to know how people thought in the past if they keep getting changed “for modern audiences”?
    On one hand they say something shouldn’t be the way it was in the past and then they destroy their own evidence by changing the property from the past.

    • @bluntguy9532
      @bluntguy9532 6 місяців тому +1

      That's the entire idea. What was old will be new again.

    • @WillCamx
      @WillCamx 6 місяців тому

      Weren't the same people who are now cheering statues being destroyed crying over ISIS destroying statues in Iraq?

  • @totomomo18
    @totomomo18 6 місяців тому +7

    They are trying to change this like they are trying to change Superman phase where he fights for "Truth Justice and The American Way". I am not American and I say that will always be the phrase just like in Star Trek it will always be "Where no Man has gone before".

  • @elminster8149
    @elminster8149 6 місяців тому +32

    "He who controls the past controls the future' - That's what this is about.
    P.S. Hmm maybe the UK got it right in leaving the EU.

    • @surlyunicorn9461
      @surlyunicorn9461 6 місяців тому +6

      Did they really leave it though? They may have removed themselves from it on a very superficial level, but all of the same issues destroying it still persist as do the people pushing those agendas. Meet the new boss

    • @elminster8149
      @elminster8149 6 місяців тому +1

      @@surlyunicorn9461 True, I wonder if the prime minister has anything to do with that. He and his Chancellor are globalists, so that may explain it.

    • @Takeshi357
      @Takeshi357 6 місяців тому +1

      @@surlyunicorn9461 UK definitely seems to have it's own brand of insufferable moral supremacists so it's not like they get to act all high and mighty on this one.

    • @surlyunicorn9461
      @surlyunicorn9461 6 місяців тому +2

      @@elminster8149 They’re all across the west at this point. Not surprisingly you’re response seems to be hidden. It can become a real effort trying to describe some as vaguely as possible and still getting the gist of what you’re trying to convey across. Also I like the name. I still have the original Forgotten Realms box set from 1987 kicking around here somewhere. lol

    • @surlyunicorn9461
      @surlyunicorn9461 6 місяців тому +3

      @@Takeshi357 Unfortunately just about everywhere in the west has our own homegrown version of these types now.

  • @paulanderson2963
    @paulanderson2963 6 місяців тому +5

    The stupidest part of it is that even as a child even I realized that usage of the word man was an abbreviation for human.
    I never ever thought at any point in time that somehow the word was meant to exclude woman.
    I was intelligent enough as a child to realize that there was such a thing as context.

    • @NightMotorcyclist
      @NightMotorcyclist 5 місяців тому

      Remember, women are not more mentally developed than children at this point... must be due to all the coddling

  • @NordicSnowhammer
    @NordicSnowhammer 6 місяців тому +5

    As a kid, I always understood the phrase meaning the species of man, not men. And I was 7 at the time!

  • @noneyabidness9644
    @noneyabidness9644 6 місяців тому +6

    People who are not smart enough to ask "would you like fries with that?" are deciding public policy.

  • @2Worlds_and_InBetween
    @2Worlds_and_InBetween 6 місяців тому +14

    you can't say _where no one_ has gone before..
    cos
    the places they went were literally jam packed with other races

    • @Osprey850
      @Osprey850 6 місяців тому +1

      Good point. It seems like human arrogance to say that "no one" has been there before just because humans haven't. That seems similar to saying that the New World was "discovered" just because white people hadn't been there before, and I bet that the same people who'd be quick to correct that are the ones promoting this.

  • @ahabduennschitz7670
    @ahabduennschitz7670 6 місяців тому +8

    My Boi William roasted an entire Generation 💪

  • @s3.14dervision
    @s3.14dervision 6 місяців тому +5

    Thank goodness the world at large is focusing on what's really important rather than frivolity like economy, war, immigration, drugs, etc.

  • @LegalizeAdulthood
    @LegalizeAdulthood 6 місяців тому +9

    TNG rewording was a sellout to political correctness. It was wrong then and it's wrong now.

  • @hellper198
    @hellper198 6 місяців тому +12

    That is one small step for nobody, one giant leap for no one.

    • @whos-the-stiff
      @whos-the-stiff 6 місяців тому +1

      Careful there, the 'body' in 'nobody' could be seen as ableist and exclusionary to people who are just heads in jars !

  • @Retep4565
    @Retep4565 6 місяців тому +22

    "No one" - apparently Alien life doesn't count - could interpreted as racist if you try hard enough.
    Apparently some EU bureaucrats don't have real problems to solve, so they invent solutions for problems that don't exist. I have seen that happen in many places in my professional life, unfortunately these "solutions" tend to create real problems where they didn't exist before.

    • @Takeshi357
      @Takeshi357 6 місяців тому

      They just hate the idea of Canada stealing their spot as the world's laughing stock I guess

    • @snickel2584
      @snickel2584 6 місяців тому +4

      Looking for something justif their jobs

  • @indetigersscifireview4360
    @indetigersscifireview4360 6 місяців тому +5

    The ship slipped her moorings. "We name ships after women to remind ourselves to treat them with respect". Rip Torn from the John Candy movie Summer Rental. That the world can be so butt hurt over words is a huge step in the wrong direction. "But why should I be offended sir? For in our century we've learned not to fear words". Lt. Uhura The Savage Curtain.

  • @matthew8153
    @matthew8153 6 місяців тому +5

    “Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
    -1984

    • @dervideominister
      @dervideominister 6 місяців тому +1

      Funny that no-one asked to rewrite anything!!
      JEEEEZ - the EU paper is a "Toolkit on Gender-sensitive Communication
      A resource for policymakers, legislators, media and anyone else with an interest in making their communication more inclusive".
      It is from 2019 by the way 🤣
      Read it loudly: For ANYONE WITH AN INTEREST..... If you are not interested, IGNORE IT.
      And the Star Trek quote was just (a bad) example to illustrate the topic.
      So - what does this have to do with 1984?? Maybe the SUN Article obviously rewrote the EU paper and falsely claimed that it wants to ban Star Trek? Come on....😂🤣😂

    • @matthew8153
      @matthew8153 6 місяців тому

      @@dervideominister
      You are what Yuri Bezmenov called: A Useful Idiot

  • @Liberty-or-Death-1776
    @Liberty-or-Death-1776 6 місяців тому +4

    This is why physical media is superior to digital streaming. They can’t ever change the films I physically own.

  • @readhistory2023
    @readhistory2023 6 місяців тому +40

    Man this is so wacked. I guess I just violated their regulations.

  • @VerneditheSnail
    @VerneditheSnail 6 місяців тому +26

    Those hypocrites pretend to care about women's visibility, yet prioritize men in woman-face/trans impostors.

    • @veganconservative1109
      @veganconservative1109 6 місяців тому +4

      Canadian volleyball tournament. Five of the 'women' constantly on the court were holding XY instead of XX. I was surprised. By now I'd have thought ALL the players would be women with wangs.

    • @Jadty
      @Jadty 6 місяців тому

      Oy! Stop noticing!

    • @NightMotorcyclist
      @NightMotorcyclist 5 місяців тому

      You're all hypocrites since women started this BS and destroyed boys spaces and sports and still are to this day without any complaints. Under Armour was celebrating all these girls joining thhe boys football team with these girls saying they can compete with the boys (the boys had to ease up) and are doing this in the collegiate and even the pro leagues. Women are also the ones constantly syai g they can keep up with men or "beat men at their own game" and are touting at better eye hand coordination than men and being tougher than men when it comes to injuries. You want to blame someone, blame women

  • @Warped9
    @Warped9 6 місяців тому +6

    Severe stupidity is running rampant among us.

  • @foosmonkey
    @foosmonkey 6 місяців тому +5

    This is doubleplus ungood.

  • @ForzaMara
    @ForzaMara 6 місяців тому +10

    As someone who speaks three romance languages, I find it absolutely hilarious the belief you can change the foundations of an entire language to suit modern sensibilities. As a woman, I also find it insulting that some believe women to be fragile enough to be affected by such a thing.

    • @bluntguy9532
      @bluntguy9532 6 місяців тому +1

      It's somewhat common here in the States.

    • @bigben8502
      @bigben8502 6 місяців тому

      The eternal Anglo at it again

  • @ronb4633
    @ronb4633 6 місяців тому +2

    Yes Dave has got the “line” correct.👍 👍 👍 👍

  • @veganconservative1109
    @veganconservative1109 6 місяців тому +3

    When my ears first encountered "Where no one..." at first I was stunned. Thought I had misheard. Second airing and I was angry. Even as a widdle girl I took it that 'man' represented Man, capitalized. It wasn't like the entire crew was comprised of solely males.

  • @thecloudtherapist
    @thecloudtherapist 6 місяців тому +4

    And isn't it meant to be "no man" as in no huMAN has gone before?
    It's addressing EVERYONE, not just men.

  • @freedomguy55
    @freedomguy55 6 місяців тому +3

    Like George Carlin said ‘they take it to far they want me to call that thing in the middle of the road a person hole cover.’ Sad how that joke now has become a serious political discussion.

  • @H0kies95
    @H0kies95 6 місяців тому +2

    " The Revolution will be complete when the language is perfect" -George Orwell

  • @MrWise-cm4nq
    @MrWise-cm4nq 6 місяців тому +2

    Who's paying these "people?" And why?

  • @MrS-pe6sd
    @MrS-pe6sd 6 місяців тому +4

    To boldly go where no they/ them has gone before

    • @burncycle4621
      @burncycle4621 10 днів тому

      This was a spit take. I hope this was sarcasm. You can never tell these days.

  • @camerachris
    @camerachris 6 місяців тому +60

    They literally changed it at the end of Star Trek VI. Kirk says "Where no man... where no one, has gone before."

    • @KurtMaxey
      @KurtMaxey 6 місяців тому +5

      Read my mind. We have such short memories....

    • @blue18404
      @blue18404 6 місяців тому +9

      I thought that was a nod to the TNG crew.

    • @docsavage8640
      @docsavage8640 6 місяців тому +14

      Which was silly since the word is Man which means Mankind.

    • @pilouuuu
      @pilouuuu 6 місяців тому +17

      Man is included in woMAN. Man represents humanity.

    • @Zoloft77
      @Zoloft77 6 місяців тому

      Or that the Federation is not as the Klignon Chancellor's daughter views as a homo sapiens only club.

  • @inspector2363
    @inspector2363 6 місяців тому +9

    Ships are "She" & "Her" as they're the symbolic Mothers protecting the crew, It's a term of respect & "Man" is just a generic collective term for the species.

    • @Dragblacker
      @Dragblacker 6 місяців тому

      But some men call cars "her" and men "sexualize everything", so using "she and her" are bad and must be made verboten.

    • @luna-hw9li
      @luna-hw9li 6 місяців тому

      @@Dragblacker Since the door only swings one way, it was my impression that it's good to call things and people a "she". Calling the Enterprise a "she" essentially means that the characters see the ship as almost a person. Calling the ship an "it" would take away that special sentiment and turn the ship into an appliance like a toaster or fridge.

    • @zxyatiywariii8
      @zxyatiywariii8 6 місяців тому

      Exactly! Ships aren't "it", they're beautiful and they deserve "she."
      Ships definitely deserve "she" more than "Admiral" Rachel Levine, who evacuated his mother from a nursing home and then sent Covid patients there, causing myriad deaths as a result.

  • @Edd25164605
    @Edd25164605 6 місяців тому +2

    It been done in English Football.
    We no longer have 'Man' of the match.
    It's now 'player' of the match.

  • @nealsterling8151
    @nealsterling8151 6 місяців тому +12

    Btw, the line was changed in TNG, because it included aliens, like Worf and non humans, like Data afaik.
    I have never heard that it was changed because of gender issues.

    • @advike9882
      @advike9882 6 місяців тому

      I don't think so. Sounds like you're making it up.

    • @nealsterling8151
      @nealsterling8151 6 місяців тому

      ​@@advike9882 Sounds to me like you wheren't areound in the early 90s to evaluate that.
      If you view everything from a "modern" (2024/Woke/culture war/whatever BS is going on today) perspective, you might see things from a narrow minded perspective. Stuff like that simply wheren't a thing back then. Believe it or not, the people in charge of Trek back then where trying to make a good show first and foremost. (Unlike TV show writers these days.)

    • @burncycle4621
      @burncycle4621 10 днів тому

      It was indeed changed for political correctness. I was around then, and it was heavily covered at the time. They even played the clip of the pilot where it was explicitly stated that women couldn't serve as Captain as a reference of the "changes that had to be made". It makes no sense to say it was changed for the aliens, because aliens are still some-one. If it was where no-one had gone before, they'd not meet any new species, and the show would be pointless.

  • @tristangoodfellow9180
    @tristangoodfellow9180 6 місяців тому +6

    Honestly this is so ridiculous... Why is everything going down the loo!!!!

    • @bigben8502
      @bigben8502 6 місяців тому

      This comment is raciss against Indians

  • @bobbyvicious8359
    @bobbyvicious8359 6 місяців тому +2

    ....no man...as in no mankind..the fact that it needs to be explained so ones world doesn't fall apart emotionally is... pathetic.

  • @thecloudtherapist
    @thecloudtherapist 6 місяців тому +2

    I suppose The Prisoner series is next on the banned list:
    "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"
    Will become:
    "I'm not a number, I'm a free person!"
    Yes, that has a great ring to it 🙄
    🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @avnrulz8587
    @avnrulz8587 6 місяців тому +5

    The EU, Europe's HOA.

  • @alexmalcolm6309
    @alexmalcolm6309 6 місяців тому +9

    Even ignoring the political correctness angle, saying "where no one has gone before" is objectively inaccurate since, you may note, the Star Trek universe is populated by all manner of aliens who very much have been there before.

    • @347Jimmy
      @347Jimmy 6 місяців тому

      There are planets that haven't been visited by anyone, so it does make sense.
      The Genesis Planet from Star Trek 3 was brand new and had never been visited by any human or alien

  • @leeboss373
    @leeboss373 6 місяців тому +2

    “The 1960’s were a different time” the question is, is it a better time now?

  • @thelisanalgaib9702
    @thelisanalgaib9702 6 місяців тому +1

    Those trying to change these things are truly no longer part of humanity, know it and are desperate to be included but still be separate

  • @richtea615
    @richtea615 6 місяців тому +3

    0:52 When they use the square root symbol instead of a tick, you know the calibre of deep thinker you are dealing with.

  • @randallgoldapp9510
    @randallgoldapp9510 6 місяців тому +3

    England was right to pull out of this jerk organization.

    • @halley4032
      @halley4032 6 місяців тому

      Not to worry, the UK has a huge commitment to pushing this Woke Horseshit, and will likely gladly go along with all that the EU suggests !

  • @Pentti_Hilkuri
    @Pentti_Hilkuri 6 місяців тому +1

    To boldly go where the sun don't shine!

  • @neildavies9351
    @neildavies9351 6 місяців тому +1

    Oh man! What next. Boy, these EU bureaucrats need to man up.

  • @qdllc
    @qdllc 6 місяців тому +4

    Inclusive language BS was going on back when I was in college. 🙄

  • @KiltedCritic
    @KiltedCritic 6 місяців тому +4

    The irony is, it's not even a gendered based quote. As Vic Mignogna said: "It's short for human, not man." TNG changed the line to reflect non-humans being on the main cast. (Worf/Troi) Not because to be "PC".

    • @ReleaseTheCanines
      @ReleaseTheCanines 6 місяців тому +1

      Was going to say the same thing, not to mention Data too (well, until Measure of a Man haha). To me, changing it to 'one' felt far more a statement about how the Federation had developed and evolved into a far larger more diverse united group of peaceful alien civilizations than it had been in Kirk's day. Indeed that seemed pretty hammered home by Star Trek 6 signing off with "where no man... or no one" as they face retirement but realised they'd at long last made the first steps towards peace with the Klingons and wondering where that might one day develop in that Undiscovered Country of the future (which we knew to be a passing of the torch to the then-concurrent TNG-era treaty and in particular Worf serving in Starfleet; especially as Dorn linked both together with that film). Which of course, we also all know to be a real-world commentary on the worldwide togetherness hoped by the end of the Cold War and collapse of the Soviet Union... rather than just worrying they'd been ignoring Uhura all these years.

    • @warpcorebreach2186
      @warpcorebreach2186 5 місяців тому +1

      That's a pleasant in-show explanation. I like that. I doubt the makers of the show were by and large motivated by that though. But I can live with that in-show reason. Thanks.

  • @kevinknight287
    @kevinknight287 6 місяців тому +1

    Utterly ridiculous!

  • @Gary85Paul
    @Gary85Paul 6 місяців тому +1

    The fact that the EU even contemplated, let alone produced guidance like that, hints at why it needs to end.

  • @thejerkstore30
    @thejerkstore30 6 місяців тому +15

    This is the exact opposite of the World Star Trek wanted to create for everyone

    • @bluntguy9532
      @bluntguy9532 6 місяців тому +3

      And sadly, nuTrek has accommodated the difference.

    • @TruthTellert63
      @TruthTellert63 6 місяців тому +2

      @@bluntguy9532 nuTre is noTrek ... or notTrek.

  • @Mrs.Grave5433
    @Mrs.Grave5433 6 місяців тому +10

    The EU trying to make themselves and their anti-western ideology "hip and with it" by attacking 60s Trek is about as out of touch as I expect.

  • @davidcraft4462
    @davidcraft4462 6 місяців тому

    Excellent! The world is on fire and we are worried about this! Great post!

  • @GothamWarden
    @GothamWarden 6 місяців тому +1

    "They invade our space, and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds, and we fall back. No, not this time. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done." - Captain Picard.

  • @MS-sb9ov
    @MS-sb9ov 6 місяців тому +3

    No more Mother Earth I guess.

  • @f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
    @f0rth3l0v30fchr15t 6 місяців тому +3

    Surely it would be more important for the EU to tackle the truly inequal languages, like German, which has gendered words for "the".

  • @muznick
    @muznick 6 місяців тому +2

    "To boldly go, where no non-specific gendered, non-specific raced individual human has migrated before"

  • @Rhamsody
    @Rhamsody 6 місяців тому +2

    I love your "just shoot me" animation. It will ALWAYS apply in these times.

  • @Nathan1234Drake
    @Nathan1234Drake 6 місяців тому +3

    EU is joining the clown world 🤦

    • @NightMotorcyclist
      @NightMotorcyclist 5 місяців тому

      The EU is where much of this clown world nonsense started

  • @doberski6855
    @doberski6855 6 місяців тому +6

    🤔 Wonder what the folks of the E.U. feel about another little line from the late 1960's? You know the one from some guy by the name of Neil Armstrong; 'one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind'. Thank you Mr. Cullen and just to clarify the line from Star Trek history, was spoken on the bridge of the 'USS Enterprise, NCC 1701! No bloody A, B, C, or D!' James Doohan (RIP Scotty and thank you as well!)

    • @The_Mighty_Fiction
      @The_Mighty_Fiction 6 місяців тому +1

      That's actually a common misquote. It's actually "One small step for one, one giant leap for onekind." 😁
      Seriously, Armstrong claims what he actually said, which was snowed under in the radio transmission, was "One small step for _a_ man, one giant leap for mankind," which makes more sense since "man" and "mankind" would just be a repetition there.

    • @gildor8866
      @gildor8866 6 місяців тому

      I would argue that this is actually a bad example, because he is talking about a specific man and then extends it "for all mankind" to specifically include every human - even these EU-bureaucrats probably wouldn't have a problem with that.

    • @The_Mighty_Fiction
      @The_Mighty_Fiction 6 місяців тому

      @@gildor8866 Oh, my sweet summer child.

    • @ricardioscarbonara102
      @ricardioscarbonara102 6 місяців тому

      One small step for they/them, one giant leap for people kind!!!
      Edited a stupid friggin typo

  • @srhabb
    @srhabb 6 місяців тому +2

    Will they also eliminate "Women and Children First"

  • @DaleRoberts-xm8ye
    @DaleRoberts-xm8ye 6 місяців тому +1

    Well, it's obvious that somebody's ship has "slipped its moorings" and then some.

  • @robertjenkins3308
    @robertjenkins3308 6 місяців тому +3

    Well, I wonder how long it's going to be before someone at Paramount/CBS uses AI to go back and change William Shatner's quote in the opening credits of TOS episodes. Cause you know they will, eventually. I know it's getting to be cliche about how you should hang on to your physical media but... I'm hanging on to my physical media.

  • @MasterChron
    @MasterChron 6 місяців тому +4

    I remember looking out the window when watching the TNG intro for the first time, I failed to see women dropping to their knees in the streets crying tears of joy, that they had suddenly been liberated from exclusionary language. All I saw was the world continuing to turn.

  • @ryanleman6726
    @ryanleman6726 6 місяців тому +2

    I've always seen the word "man" in that context as hu"man". Mankind. Hu"man"ity.

  • @Plisken65
    @Plisken65 6 місяців тому

    Enough! Let's light this candle and get it over with so we can move forward.

  • @AM-ul3to
    @AM-ul3to 6 місяців тому +10

    I guess that's why they also think 'Woman's Changing Room' should be 'Everyone's Changing Room'.

    • @mattt2277
      @mattt2277 6 місяців тому +4

      They can't even define what a woman is ffs

  • @singularity_josh8063
    @singularity_josh8063 6 місяців тому +3

    I thought the next-generation said no one instead of man, because there more aliens on board the ship.

  • @itsscott1813
    @itsscott1813 6 місяців тому +1

    "Is and always shall be." Nice.

  • @cademengler950
    @cademengler950 6 місяців тому +1

    Good thing I have physical copies of both the show and movies that thet cannot touch.

  • @haitolawrence5986
    @haitolawrence5986 6 місяців тому +41

    Ignore them. Problem solved. 😊

    • @blue18404
      @blue18404 6 місяців тому +12

      Liked that ever worked

    • @deandeck
      @deandeck 6 місяців тому +13

      That's why they'll try to arrest you for it next

    • @haitolawrence5986
      @haitolawrence5986 6 місяців тому +1

      @@blue18404 They run on money that they get from the attention. Take the attention away and they have to get an actual job.

  • @BT-su1yf
    @BT-su1yf 6 місяців тому +25

    Do we give a fuck about what the EU thinks we should do? Didn’t think so.

  • @psychoagenda
    @psychoagenda 6 місяців тому +2

    "No one has gone before" brings a sensation that not even a creature ever was there, it just loses the meaning, lol.

  • @demon2441
    @demon2441 6 місяців тому +1

    I give the EU bureaucracy credit on one issue and then they immediately remind me why I hate them.

  • @batmanforpresident9655
    @batmanforpresident9655 6 місяців тому +29

    These people won't stop until they're destroyed every loved franchise that ever existed.

    • @blue18404
      @blue18404 6 місяців тому +1

      Why do you let them? Because you don't really care.

    • @gr-os4gd
      @gr-os4gd 6 місяців тому +4

      They're going WAY beyond just entertainment franchises. This is the Newspeak Dictionary.

    • @comyxcon4gaming860
      @comyxcon4gaming860 6 місяців тому +1

      Not if those who love media can help it.

    • @blue18404
      @blue18404 6 місяців тому

      @@comyxcon4gaming860 you would have done it already. You don't have a red line. Slave

    • @blue18404
      @blue18404 6 місяців тому

      @@gr-os4gd It has been Newspeak since the 90s at least. Wake the fuck up.

  • @WesleyHill-md5cg
    @WesleyHill-md5cg 6 місяців тому +5

    "I don't want to live on this planet anymore." - Professor Hubert Farnsworth

  • @mustang607
    @mustang607 6 місяців тому +1

    These people want the world to conform to their Newspeak.

  • @mjbull5156
    @mjbull5156 6 місяців тому +1

    I guess the also find the contemporaneous quote "That's one small step for (a) man, one giant leap for mankind" a problem as well?
    Changing the opening in Star Trek from "where no man has gone before" to "where no one has gone before" took out some of the poetry and epic feel of the line.

  • @JohnCastleSmokeless
    @JohnCastleSmokeless 6 місяців тому +4

    Simply _Do. Not. Comply._ Language and thought are deeply interconnected, so make no mistake: They want to control language as a path to controlling _how you think._

    • @dervideominister
      @dervideominister 6 місяців тому

      Do you know the title of the EU paper? It reads "Toolkit on Gender-sensitive Communication
      A resource for policymakers, legislators, media and anyone else with an interest in making their communication more inclusive
      " Its from 2019!
      Yes, it is for people "with an interest in making their communication more inclusive". If you 're not interested SIMPLY DO JUST IGNORE IT. .... ah, and the ban and stuff is just made up nonsense by a yellow press newspaper 🤭

  • @Cornz38
    @Cornz38 6 місяців тому +3

    Frankly i find the use of a *split infinitive way more egregious than saying "no man". *to boldly go where no man has gone before is a split infinitive.

  • @AxelAlexK
    @AxelAlexK 6 місяців тому +1

    Since I was a kid I always read "...where no man has gone before" as referring to mankind. Not males. Mankind means all humans, men and women. Both words have men/man in them. So I always thought the quote from the original series was already encompassing both genders.

  • @mikeschembri8870
    @mikeschembri8870 6 місяців тому +1

    Prime Minister Trudeau actually corrected a young woman who said 'Mankind' to 'People-kind' which isn't actually a word.