Phantom Thread - Official Movie Review
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- Опубліковано 27 гру 2017
- Phantom Thread starring Daniel Day-Lewis, Lesley Manville and Vicky Krieps directed by Paul Thomas Anderson is reviewed by Alonso Duralde, Christy Lemire, Ben Mankiewicz and Matt Atchity.
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Set in the glamour of 1950's post-war London, renowned dressmaker Reynolds Woodcock (Daniel Day-Lewis) and his sister Cyril (Lesley Manville) are at the center of British fashion, dressing royalty, movie stars, heiresses, socialites, debutants and dames with the distinct style of The House of Woodcock. Women come and go through Woodcock's life, providing the confirmed bachelor with inspiration and companionship, until he comes across a young, strong-willed woman, Alma (Vicky Krieps), who soon becomes a fixture in his life as his muse and lover. Once controlled and planned, he finds his carefully tailored life disrupted by love. With his latest film, Paul Thomas Anderson paints an illuminating portrait both of an artist on a creative journey, and the women who keep his world running. Phantom Thread is Paul Thomas Anderson's eighth movie, and his second collaboration with Daniel Day-Lewis.
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This might be one of the best discussions WTF has held in quite a while. So many interesting, nuanced observations that have left me terribly eager to see this film.
internisus its just a gothic romance like Rebecca
Maximillien Robespierre buzzkill
I just got back from seeing it and must inform you that it is not "just" anything.
internisus Indeed. Excellent movie!
This is the longest review they’ve ever done, but it was so good that it only felt like it was 8 minutes
"plus you have the science fiction element of a heterosexual man as a fashion designer in England in the 1950´s"
*looks at camera*
"I DON´T THINK THERE WERE ANY."
gosh I love Alonso
Antti Kylmänen - I agree with Alonso. I'm 40 minutes into the movie now and going to sleep for the night. His character isn't believable to me but whatever. I'm glad they even allow such May-September hetero stories these days. Will stream the rest another day.
Stupid comment made by a one track mind man. People praising a fantastic film and he has to drop that dumb non sequitor. It's a goddamn movie. Not a documentary. Right, because he's gay everyone else is gay when they say they were gay. It's as annoying as people who turn vegetarian and vegans now having to throw themselves pat in the back a thons and scold and teach everyone else. Grow up.
Then immediately he says he heard it was inspired by a person he had never heard of before...!!! There you go ignorant, maybe he was the one heterosexual designer. Was it science fiction then? Jesus christ.
The shape of water underwhelmed me, but Phantom thread blew me away!!
How dare you, comparing Phantom Thread to that teenage fanfic
I think it has tons to say, which is in absolutely no way all decipherable in just one viewing. It didn’t drag for me one bit and I saw this as the second movie I saw in the same day, a double feature I lined up for myself. It’s absolutely ethereal and elusive, yet has sooo much to say.
I remember when Daniel Day-Lewis said The Boxer will be his last film. That was 20 years ago.
A much underrated little gem, that.
Actually he never said that, he just said that wanted to have some rest from acting and work on other things for a while but he didn't know How long that would be, it ended up being five years , it could've been more if it weren't for Martin Scorsese !!!
Can you supply his quotes on that???
Cinema Garmonbozia good that was a terrible movie
Well to be fair, it always could've been more except for someone
Love the film, loooove the score, take a bow Johnny Greenwood.
Yes! This was really the movie this year needed, IMO. My fave of the year by far, PTA never disappoints.
Joseph Wythe PTA is in my opinion the most intresting and talented filmaker, he is the Stanley kubrick of our time ,his work is so beautiful !!! I loved so much THE MASTER and THERE WILL BE BLOOD, He was only 28 when he directed MAGNOLIA !!! HE IS THE MOZART OF CINEMA..
The Master is the best film since The Godfather, imo.
Joseph Wythe Yeah, he's an underrated film director. I have to see this movie, I didn't know PTA made a new movie.
Joseph Wythe I fully agree. Fully.
@@eliassmith8760 Kubrick passed it to Spielberg(watch the interview spielberg does on Stanley) and Stephen passed the torch of the form on to Paul. It really does seem to me to be that way. The royal bloodline of Cinema
Magnolia is Paul's amazing "more is more" movie. Phantom Thread is his "less IS more" film; exceptional range.
Haven't seen the film, but this is why I love filmmakers like PT Anderson. The smallest details create the opportunity for amazing discussions.
Gotta say everyone, I was really disappointed by your review of the Master and Inherent Vice. But here I really sense your love and appreciation of film craft and of PTA and Jonny Greenwood’s work. Excellent review!
Inherent Vice was terrible, it's hard to like that movie.
widM I urge you to watch it again. It's a very solid film that confuses a lot of people because it is supposed to be hazy. The first time I saw it I liked it but ended up confused because so much was going on. Then I saw it again a week later and the dots started to connect as I went along.
I wanted Daniel Day Lewis to work with Christopher Nolan or Dennis Villenueve..
Carlos Santana buts he's already worked with Scorsese and PTA aka 2 of the greats!
I wanted to see Daniel Day Lewis take on The Joker actually ;D
Wow, that would be great.
I wanted to see Daniel work with Jodie foster, Gary oldman and kate Winslet in a great historical movie directed by Mel Gibson !!! That would've been a Awesome...
Eh... Not even the Scorsese and Day-Lewis duo beats the Anderson and Day-Lewis one. They're the perfect match or should I repeat duo as proven by There Will Be Blood and now this movie.
This is gonna be such a bittersweet viewing experience if he’s really retiring
The name Daniel Day Lewis will send me to the movies every time. So I ditched plans for the day and snuck off to the movies to see PT. True the music, the sets, the clothes were gorgeous. And the actors - Lewis to the godson doctor - were wonderful. But 10 minutes into the film I found myself fidgeting and it got worse as the film progressed. I wasn't bored, just not engaged. 15 minutes to the end - when she made his omelette - I dashed to the restroom, something I NEVER do. When the movie switched theme I lost interest. The final scene I thought, "Really?"
I think this is PT Anderson's best film since There Will Be Blood....Very different style, yet just as powerful. Sad to hear this was Day-Lewis' final role but it's a terrific closing act.
Oooh glad to hear that "on the biggest screen you can" at the end! I will be lucky enough to see it on the Castro screen next week followed by a PT Anderson Q&A. So excited after hearing yáll discuss it!
Loved the use of Schubert's Trio during the fashion show.
I drink your milkshake! I eat your omelette!
Charles James is the name of the designer Alonso is referencing.
Ah, yes! Saw his show at the Met in NYC a few years ago. Gorgeous stuff and amazingly constructed!
15:50 lmao love you christy
That was adorable ....caught me so off-guard, I laugh-snorted. :D
g mrtns she is so awesome lmao
FYI, that guy who gave Lady Bird a Rotten....if you read his review, he gave it 3/5 which technically translates to 60%. And what does Rotten Tomatoes count as fresh? 60% ! So, it should still be 100% Fresh.
Raymond Lin when it's 3/5 or 60/100 the reviewer gets to decide if it's Fresh or Rotten. That bastard chose rotten intentionally because he didn't want it to be at 100%
Raymond Lin doesnt matter guy its still solid
I went to check on this a week ago as well lol
Vicky Krieps was in a weird German movie called The Chambermaid.
Paul Thomas Anderson is the best director alive.
I couldn't disagree more
Most over-rated more like it. He is good for showcasing actors, but his movies don't have any interesting ideas or really connect emotionally.
Hes absolutely great but Terrence Malick and David Lynch are still alive.
I’m not a fan of The Master, and I really disliked Inherent Vice. There was a time when I would have agreed with your comment, but those movies were very disappointing for me. But that’s just my opinion...
super8mmo Debatable. Denis Villeneuve is IMO - Sicario, Blade Runner 2049, Enemy, Prisoners, Arrival
This movie looks gorgeous, the score is beautiful, with fine acting, but I was bored senseless. It gets a 6 from me
Logansolo Howlett-Jones - After 40 minutes, I'm going to sleep. Just shut steaming off. And this is before the part where she apparently poisons him which would be completely unacceptable for me to watch him accept that
Logansolo Howlett-Jones - I tried another 27 minutes but couldn't watch the pretentious justification of poisoning someone. And I never got to the subversive part
It's a film about two sociopaths, who, instead of directing their pathology toward society, direct it toward one another. Beautifully photographed and produced and sincerely acted, the ultimate statement about "love" as possession and co-dependence - justifying manipulation and irrationality - should leave one flummoxed as to how such a film could evoke romantic notions from such a toxic relationship.
I left the film aggravated by it's cynicism and acceptance of this idea of "love" and the central characters revealing themselves as coo-coo for Cocoa Puffs. However, I completely recognize how so many, especially those who view relationships as a game and cherish ambiguity over earnest discussion, would admire this film.
Alonso, thanks for mentioning the M2M app, I just installed it.
Patrick - Signe Chanel
I'm very excited to see this movie.
I was really not a fan of this film... I LOVE PTA but found PT long and rather boring... Ah well. Looking forward to the next one!
where can I find their top 10 lists?
Speaking of fashion, I want Ben's cosy soft hoodie!
10:50.....so funny!!! Great review. Fascinating.
Oscar for toast buttering sound effects anyone? lol. That sound mixing was indeed a stand out.
Daniel Day-Lewis has been saying he will quit acting for many years now. I actually hope he will quite, because it's getting old.
Wonderful movie however I felt myself getting restless. I wasn't expecting such a slow movie. The trailers were a bit misleading. That being said, go into this movie knowing it's a slow slow burner and you'll enjoy yourself
This is my favorite review from you all, just delightful
I wish the movie came out my city already.
I've watched it about 10 times and get something new each time.
Good review! It’s kind of spoilerish but not too much to where people know exactly know what you’re talking about. But I think it would best enjoyed not knowing this much. The trailer is enough lol I agree with Christie. I also gave it a 10/10. It’s a perfect film
It’s so sad that sooooo many people are soooooo hungry for action and booms and fast pace and they need nifty 1 hour and 30 min films ………it’s a shame because in my opinion some stories need a elongation in the run time to fully macerate characters and create a world for the audience! this is a masterpiece and slow burn on a high end wick
Hi Paul!
7:14 hit the nail on the head.
His sister and Alma 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Wait wait wait. Did they just spend fifteen minutes talking about that movie without addressing the issue of the ending, how fucking odd was the main character's decision to let his wife poison him ? I liked the movie, but that just didn't work for me.
Haha well personally I find it less disturbing to consider it might be an allegory of some kind (radical / expedited therapy, mushrooms = LSD?). I mean at least he knows he is being poisoned, and he implied his consent so... to each their own kinks, lol.
"Tailor yourself to each other" is an excellent advice.
HAPPY NEW YEAR
Christy’s opening was all we needed to hear!
I love Christy. Just saw this movie and hell yes it’s a 10 out of 10 for me too
3:38-3:55 Telling the story more efficiently or effectively
1. Phantom Thread
2. Boogie Nights
3. Magnolia
4. There Will Be Blood
5. The Master
6. Punch-Drunk Love
7. Inherent Vice
8. Hard Eight
Damn Christy is very good looking. Such a cool, smart lady.
I like the fact this movie doesn’t have a breakneck pace. Like a delicious meal, to be savored.
This is a story about love and Learning how to deal with each other????? No no no!!!
I'll watch anything with DDL in it, but this doesn't look like his most interesting work. Or PT Anderson's for that matter.
Alonso's thinking of Charles James.
The Twist or toxicity of their relationship serve no point. Why would I go to see two peeople in a destructive relationship like this with no resolved healing? 50 shades of Grey even had a reasoning behind his fetishes.
try watching Bad Timing...now talk about toxic relationships
Great movie and great review. I can’t wait to watch this one again on video
How good is Alonso's maths? Well done sir!
It feels like I watched a completely different movie. The entire time I'm like, why does any of this need to happen. Why didn't she leave if she was so unhappy? Why not just let him be an ass on his own while she could find someone that satisfies her needs? Why the hell was poisoning a bonding experience and he still "loved" her even after he realized it was her? He was a dick to his staff and I'd be on board if she was doing out of some sense of altruism to help those women but I couldn't for the life of me understand why she insisted on staying and playing these games other than to just break him down because I don't believe that they actually loved each other much less even liked each other.
I'm also willing to admit that this was too high brow for me and I just didn't get what it was supposed to be. But it was literally two hours of me just thinking, one or both of them could leave at any moment yet they continue to stay in each others presence with these unhappy scowls on their faces.
Oliver Reeve
You took it literally, instead of realizing the subconscious pathos of the underlying characters. Amalia and Woodcock were clearly in love at first sight, even if they had a "strange" way of showing it, with the petty fights and arguments along the way.
Woodcock lost his structure, confidence and concentration, because he was in love. He had to be "broken down" and "reassembled", by Amalia, like one of his dresses, so he could submit to a relationship of give and take, instead of one- sided loyalty.
It was a deconstruction of power dynamics in relationships. She didn't leave because she seen a lot to admire about him and was trying to deal with the things she didn't like and change them. Her way to make him more sensitive and caring was to poison him and force him to rely on her to take care of him. He stays with her because of his past insecurity with his relationships with women (his mother and his sister were always very demanding and in control and he admires that about alma when she starts poisoning him).
Yes its demented, but as are relationships like this. I seen the people who most related to this movie was those who were in abusive relationships and those who tried to control and change those who they were with.
What's with these people? The mood, the atmosphere the setting, the cinematography isn't fluff to be cut down on fools!
lovely hair, Christy!
I didn't like this movie at all. It was kind of boring. I hated every character. I'm just happy they're stuck with each other. It never really addresses how terrible they are.
Wow. Just wow. The ending tho.
This was an amazing film although the ending was somewhat of a cop out.
4:11-4:17 The long way around= The circuitous route
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As usual, PTA delivers another masterpiece. Fuckin guy sold his soul to the got. damn. devil.
4:49 he touches her hand and she moves it away
. Not to flip the page but to get away
I loved it but agreed that it took too long to go to the darker side.
Great discussion
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It sounds like a really sophisticated soap.
basquat76 that sound really good to eat.
Yup, I saw it 100%
It´s about Hitchcock. Think about it.
You think Phantom Thread made you figit, try "Precious" on for size or perhaps another PT Anederson film.
7:11-7:48 Ergo, the Phantom Thread
Fav of the year.
Is this a sequel to Mr. Woodcock?
This film looks more visually dazzling than “The Shape of Water “
I absolutely love this film!
the acting was good. the cinematography was good. it's the plot that sucked. as mentioned i wanted more character development too. i think ladybird was definitely better. wonder wheel another better movie. neither of those were perfect but easily better than this. had potential but very disappointing.
good shit christy
16 minutes on this one.... 6 minutes on 3 Billboards.
4:55-6:45 Hmmmmmmm
I love Paul Thomas Anderson but the trailers made this movie look super dull.
Spoilers, 'cos you need to be warned against this movie: Phantom Thread is Stockholm Syndrome Garbage. Alma refuses to move on, and the day Reynolds considers kicking her out, she poisons him. He doesn't know he's poisoned, but was convinced Alma was the one for staying by him in his illness. He marries at the spur, but in the months after considers divorce since she interferes with his work with a totally grating personality. She poisons him again, confesses to it in front of him, and somehow he becomes smitten by her all over again. His art lifestyle is totally shot, has a kid even, all 'cos he most likely suspects his next home cooked meal will be his last if he ever speaks up to his wife again. This movie inspires Men to Go Their Own Way.
Lol. He clearly knew he was eating the poisoned mushrooms the second time and was clearly okay with it. Maybe he realized that he was far too rigid and he was in danger of losing her, his creativity in fashion (remember that Cyril accused him of not being chic or modern when a client of his moved on to another house) and understood that he was too stubborn to change on his own but understood that he needed to. I don’t think either character is sympathetic and I think the relationship is messed up, but you can’t put that all on her. The only person I really loved in this movie is Cyril. She’s badass
Great performance from DDL but as for the film itself, it was quite meh. Even as someone who enjoys films that are slow it's usually due to the building up of tension with it having a lot of atmospheric depth. This didn't have either especially with the somewhat grating piano music in the background.
Fantastic movie! Loved it
Great film actor. I wish critics would stop overrating him and Meryl, cuz it makes everyone else dislikes them....
I'm not sure you can overrate Lewis. My brother used to think that about him...and then he saw "There Will be Blood."
TheIsh1988 no one doesnt like Daniel Day Lewis
Learn to spell.
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I saw this movie and there's not a chance in hell it's a 10. Christy should be ashamed. This movie was long and it was boring. There wasn't really a story either. It's a solid 6 at best. There must have been some Last Jedi money left over to bribe a few critics.
raise your hand if you think it's smart to fall in love with someone who doesn't appreciate you. HE DIDNT. the only way he could? when he was sick....GREAT COUPLE, people. two halves make a whole nut.
"..no English heterosexual fashion designers in 50's" is that true or is Alonso Duralde just guessing.
I find it utterly blasphemous that when we're given the rarest of rarities, a truly great movie, that the dudes here are like, "it was too long, cut it down". Really? You really have better things to be doing at home, watching TV, reading about Trump, checking twitter, browsing facebook. When greatness finally comes along, that's your reaction, you want less of it? I think that if you were restless during this movie, that's your problem, not the movie's. I just bathed in the texture of Phantom Thread, I loved most every minute of it. Ironically I was less enraptured by the final thirty minutes. It took a sudden turn towards conventionality with the 'let's get married' angle, and then it had to make another sharp correction towards irregularity with the 'let's eat toadstools and magically transcend death' scenes. It's like you're being driven along a smooth road for most of the journey and then the driver decides he wants to shake things up and start taking bumpy shortcuts because he loses confidence in his ability to bring it home on time.
The first half of this movie made me wanna sedate myself. The second half was great though.
Ben is cute😍😍😍
10/10?!! What if he ate the whole omelette?! This movie needed to show them having sex at least. I thought he was in the closet the whole movie or something? Way too british for me
Kek (＊¯艸¯) Cool criticism !!! Okay guys ... How & where do you guys find out a particular film seemingly giggling with ripping-off-ism, but he or she definitely holds integrity to try to top its source material that clearly shows it’s not another cheap shot ???
I disagree so much with their review of this movie. One of best movies of the year? Maybe in 1990. There is nothing here to make you feel anything. Acting was very good but there is no purpose or need for this trite movie. There are actual revolutionary, exciting and emotional films in 2017/2018 and this one along with Darkest Hour are for the +60 crowd who yearn for the simple days of paints by numbers oscar bait movies. I can't believe it got nominated for best picture alongside Call me by your name, Lady Bird, Dunkirk and Get Out. Adios Daniel Day Lewis
Cam Grant I thought Dunkirk was yet another war film that the Academy orgasms for and was nothing special at all. There are a lot more innovative films than Phantom Thread in the category, but it was a good film. I didn’t love the twist personally... I would have preferred a more conventional resolution to the story. Honestly, they were awful for each other and should have divorced. But hey, one person’s poison.... ;)
What does a film coming out in 1990 have to do with anything? Films were better then...
I just watched it, better late than never. At the end of the movie, my wife and I at the same time turned to each and I said, "FU." It was an immediate response! Daniel Day-Lewis wasn't so great, he was acting, like so many other actors, he did his job. The wife was poisoning him and at the end, he approved of it, ridiculous. None of the characters were even the least bit interesting - both main characters were a**holes. Riveting? Heck No. This is a D movie, forgotten in the ash heap of below average movies. You can't even compare this movie and Daniel Day-Lewis performance with any of his other movies. My Left Foot - Wonderful. In The Name of the Father - Wonderful. Lincoln - Wonderful.
If you are looking for a point to the movie, it's not worth your time or effort.
I'll be back when I've seen it! lol
Best film I saw of 2017.
Didn't even get the character's name right. Eyeroll.
Ben seems miserable all the time... 😒
He can't do anything to bring an end to the infamous pedophile rings in Hollywood. I'd be depressed too.
Cuz he wants to hog the camera
Why is every movie that comes out too long
I’m curious as to which 30 mins Alonso would cut. Such an idiotic comment